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Bad news: there will be no ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile cell phones
May 13, 2005 [General]
Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
Interestingly ROM images with Windows Mobile 5.0 exist for HTC Typhoon (Orange SPV C500, Audiovox SMT 5600, etc), for HTC Blue Angel and other models, but they will not be available for customers, because operators and distributors want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading new ones...
Smartphone Thoughts news website got an information from Orange UK about Windows Mobile 5.0:
Orange is looking forward to launching the new Windows Mobile platform across a range of attractive devices in 2005. The key benefits to customers and to Orange will be an enhanced phone experience, increased customisation possibilities, as well as improved overall performance.
Florian Seiche, Director of Devices, Orange Group
We have also got information from other sources that there will be no upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 for existing Windows Mobile phones. The only ROM upgrades to Windows Mobile 5.0 from Windows Mobile 2003 will be available for some Pocket PC PDAs (not phones) from HP, Dell, and some other vendors.
Conclusion: don't buy any Windows Mobile phone if it is not powered by Windows Mobile 5.0 or if a vendor/distributor of given phone is not giving official promise that upgrade to Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available.
Please note: first official devices with Windows Mobile 5.0 will be available in August 2005. It's also important to notice that Windows Mobile 5.0 works also in low resolution of 176x220 and technically speaking it can work on any Windows Mobile phone
Who cares? We'll get our un-offical updates here in xda-developers anyway as usual
How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?
vbguru613 said:
How are they gonna obtain the Original Rom?
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How did we got WM2005 or WM2003SE (more than one!) for Himalaya? How did we got WM2003SE for Wallaby? In many-many ways which will be not known probably for us
i ampraying they get the blueangel rom!!
no need to worry man...
There's no reason to worry about the rom..
BECAUSE THIS IS XDA-DEVELOPERS MAN....
we are here the best with the best!
No worries dude! everything is upgradable here in xda-developers.com 8)
I never expect to have WM2003SE on my Wallaby device, but the great guys here has made it! Many thanks to all people here in this forum
It's sad that this is the case. My blue angel rocks, and it's less than 6 months old. Thanks to xda-devs we'll get WM5 These guys rock
let not forget the xda2i... hehehe..would love to have this baby running on wm2k5
BLUEANGEL WM 2005
This forum can do anything!! This is the exclusive kickass XDA think-tank on a www.. level !!! I am confident that before it is all over with, our fellow forum members will have the WM 2005 runnig on the BlueAngel and someone might even take it a step further and probably make up a streamline (simulated) version to run on and XDA I!!
It all starts with an idea and everyone digs in and can have it solved in hours or a day at the latest. Totally freaking AMAZING!! 8) Thanks to all who have helped us all!!! :lol:
WM 5 on HTC Typhone working
Hey msmobiles.com has screenshots of a typhoon with WM 5. i would kill to get a rom on mine from that phone. It says its availible to a closed group of developers. Developers log on here!!!!!
http://www.msmobiles.com/news.php/3848.html
That would be sweet.
Distributors and operators want you to buy new phones with Windows Mobile 5.0 instead of upgrading your old phones to Windows Mobile 5.0!
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Correct is all about money, BUT
as for me and my GSM SP and many other GSM SP's arround the world have their subscribers locked into a 24 month contract?
What do we do then?
I chatted to the support for iMate on www.clubimate.com last Friday and they also said there was no upgrade for the iMate 2020 PPC. In fact I was told that "testing" was not complete. Yet Dell was very quick off the mark and annonce imediately (the day after, MS annoncement) that ALL Axim X50 Handheld Family. (http://www1.us.dell.com/content/top...ce/en/2004/2005_05_10_rr_000?c=us&l=en&s=corp)
Now that is service!
http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/operatingsystems/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=207100040
no wm7 before 2010 so we'll have to stay with 6 for some time )
I think thats the vista replacement and not the winmobile replacement.
This is Windows 7 the follow up of Windows Vista
LOL... read gooder before posting next time.
ha ha.
GOOD NEWS EVERYONE!!
fOUND THIS ON MSN!
According to a Microsoft executive, we are set to see the latest version of Microsoft's mobile operating system – the much-hyped Windows Mobile 7 – finally unveiled to the great unwashed at Mobile World Congress in Barcelona next month.
It is hardly the most surprising news, as many mobile industry punters were secretly hoping to see the new mobile operating system being shown off by Microsoft at CES this month. But that clearly did not come to be.
Mobile World Congress launch
Entertainment and Devices Division president Robbie Bach claimed that Windows Mobile 7 "things will be talked about at MWC" at the company's Financial Analyst meeting at CES.
"I've seen it and played with it. It will set the bar forward not in (just) an evolutionary way," added Bach.
Bach went on to add that Microsoft plans to be "more engaged" with OEMs in its "go to market approach."
Microsoft clearly hopes to change the shifting emphasis away from Windows Mobile to Apple's iPhone and Google's Android with the latest version of its mobile operating system. We are looking forward to bringing you all the news from the ground in Barcelona next month.
FLYBOY
Sounds good. I'll keep my eyes open! Thanks for info.
I just really hope that Microsoft knows that if this is WM7 is not earth-shatteringly epoch-making, then they are almost all but screwed in the mobile market, and will get torn up. I have been a winmo supporter, but with all thid screwing around recently, it's hard to be optimistic. Most winmo oems are now 50/50 w. android.
Since WM 7 will not be trying to support millions of "older" users from 3 different systems I have high hopes for what MS will be unveiling. I truly feel they can get it done and give us a complete system that functions well, is easy to use and visually stimulating. Why do I feel this? They have done it with Windows 7 and proven it may take a long time, but they can do something "right" for this current generation.
If not - I must agree that they will be dead in the water concerning mobile phones.
Thank you for the updates Flyboy.
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
kholk said:
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
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YAY!!!!! Too... from another HD2 owner
Even better - maybe the TMobile USA version of the HD2 will come with Mobile 7. Now that would be a coup!
Yes, this info helps the sale of HTC HD2. but just a nut behind Iphone. WM7 will be a geek's toy, and it's all.
kholk said:
YEAH!!!!! If WM7 will be out next month... the HTC HD2 will surely get an upgrade!
Hooray!
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i have to dampen your expectations, but remember 6.5? ANNOUNCED in feb. at this MWC, released in oct.
most sources report wm7 will be released q4 2010.
Guys, he never said it would be released.
Just a public debut, probably a walkthrough of nice new features and other such stuff. Don't get your hopes up about ROM's.
It's going to be released in Q4 2010... may be we might get a preview of it, in next month or so...
rajivshahi said:
It's going to be released in Q4 2010... may be we might get a preview of it, in next month or so...
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a preview next month? wow.. would be absoluty great.. looking forward because windows mobile 7 is the real new mobile version compared to winmob 6.5 release which is just a little step into nothing just fingerfriendly.
Lazy79 said:
a preview next month? wow.. would be absoluty great.. looking forward because windows mobile 7 is the real new mobile version compared to winmob 6.5 release which is just a little step into nothing just fingerfriendly.
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totally agree with you...really hope that it would be next month. Can't wait to show off to iPhone or android (if only it can)
Microsoft come on, claim back your title in mobile market!!
Question is Did he mention it was WM7? Or did he just say "the next version of WM"???
lets look at reality guys...what is the next version of windows mobile? is it windows mobile 7??
no.....im a windows fan and have been, however i just hope they dont let us down...im kinda scared hes gnna announce windows mobile 6.5.3.3 or Windows Mobile 6.7 or something
i mean they announced 6.5, u think there gonna jump right to 7 without explaining another OS that came out??
I do believe WM7 will be released late this year, im just not so sure there gnna announce 7 without announcing their "latest OS so far" which is what were all running on our phones, remember the leaked version of another OS, wm6.5.3.3??
Windows announced that theres gonna be two OS to be running on phones simultansously withing the next few months/years...6.5 and 7. WM6.5 will be the cheaper version and 7 will be the elite version....i hope im wrong, just have a bad feeling about them prolonging this as much as possible. December 31st will be the first day windows 7 hits stores. Late Q4
to all you HD2 users...soorry but keep getting familiar with 6.5, cause 7 won't be on your devices for at least another 6 months, and thats being generious.
Don't forget the latest news of Xbox Live coming to Windows Phone (probably WM7 only)!
http://kotaku.com/5445100/xbox-live-officially-heading-for-mobile-phones?skyline=true&s=i
Should i be happy that i will be able to upgrade my HTC VIVA when Win 7 comes, or just see you guys celebrate with faster CPUs ?
Not sure I understand that question right but I dont see why people would want to try to hack WM7 to run on anything older than a HD2, it would be like trying to run Windows Vista (yup not even 7) on an old 486 200 MHz Computer
Im guessing given the minimum spec that even if it did run you would have to turn off so much of the fancy stuff that it wouldnt be worth it in the end.
Thats why 6.5.3 etc is there, to update older phones.
hasseye said:
Question is Did he mention it was WM7? Or did he just say "the next version of WM"???
lets look at reality guys...what is the next version of windows mobile? is it windows mobile 7??
no.....im a windows fan and have been, however i just hope they dont let us down...im kinda scared hes gnna announce windows mobile 6.5.3.3 or Windows Mobile 6.7 or something
i mean they announced 6.5, u think there gonna jump right to 7 without explaining another OS that came out??
I do believe WM7 will be released late this year, im just not so sure there gnna announce 7 without announcing their "latest OS so far" which is what were all running on our phones, remember the leaked version of another OS, wm6.5.3.3??
Windows announced that theres gonna be two OS to be running on phones simultansously withing the next few months/years...6.5 and 7. WM6.5 will be the cheaper version and 7 will be the elite version....i hope im wrong, just have a bad feeling about them prolonging this as much as possible. December 31st will be the first day windows 7 hits stores. Late Q4
to all you HD2 users...soorry but keep getting familiar with 6.5, cause 7 won't be on your devices for at least another 6 months, and thats being generious.
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WM7 was taking too long in the pipeline so they released 6.5 in the interim.
Think of it like Windows Se7en. Everything Vista should have been.
Triphazard said:
WM7 was taking too long in the pipeline so they released 6.5 in the interim.
Think of it like Windows Se7en. Everything Vista should have been.
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i understand the reason of 6.5.3/.3 and 7....
my point was, if they developed and changed 6.5 to 6.5.3.3 i personally doubt there just going to ignore it and introduce wm7 at some of these conferences, one/some/all of these conferences are gonna have to introduce the latest 6.5
IMO 6.5.3 = 6.5
The differences aren't THAAAT much. What has changed? Start menu gone to bottom. Small fix in the OS, big results for the user experience. A few very sloppy apps aren't working properly anymore but WFT?? After all not much has changed so I don't think they need to announce it once more.
They'll introduce WM 7!
Any new newses about Skype version for wp7.5
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it was supposed to be released end 2011 and its already jan 2012 yet there are no news on Skype for WM 7.5. Most of the MS / Skype forums are flooded with a similar query but there has been no official announcement. Hope they release it at the earliest
I'm getting annoyed myself (and I'm not forum basher), but it's beginning to feel more and more like MS is abandoning WP7 and pushing everything to WP8, if they do that I'm bailing.
I would imagine since they are hopefully going to integrate this deeply into WP7 they would want to release this integration with a windows phone major update...perhaps Apollo?
MS is not abandoning windows phone...I can't even comprehend how someone could even think that...disagree with their strategies and perhaps they will not be successful in the long term but they are spending loads of cash on this...if they fail in mobile the company is in jeopardy...
Wtf? Mobile doesn't mean squat to Microsoft.
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I guess Microsoft is waiting for MWC for Apollo/Tango details and skype integration.
Skype for WP Mango next month
If news items across the web are to be believed - just search Skype for Windows Phone and there are feelers it might be released next month at Barcelona Mobile World Congress
If you had scanned the front page you would have seen this huge thread dudeeeeeeee.
for all those following this thread - skype beta can be downloaded from marketplace or skype. its amazing. call clarity / performance is good will need to test more to see how it performs