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For the last 2 weeks, I've been reading the forum and waiting delivery on a unlocked/unbranded HTC TYTN with WM 5.0.
It appears the disadvantage of the AT&T release ROMs are speed and bloatware. I haven't seen any comments on the advantages or disadvantages of the official HTC WM 6.0 ROMs versus the cooked 6.0/6.1 ROMs.
Can anyone provide any comments on the official HTC ROMs? Sorry, if I missed it, but, I've been trying to cram as much knowledge as possible about this device and trying to make a decision on a cooked ROM or the official HTC one.
Thanks!
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PJBHermes
Join Date: May 2008
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NEW THREAD on​ Opinions on the default HTC TYTN WM 6.0 ROM
I bet you didn't read anything on the open forums and you just asked your humble question...
GUIDE: on this website there is something called WIKI which has all answers to all Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
I kindly ask the moderators to do 2 important things for our forum to keep it updated:
1- open a new thread and give it the name "SPAQ" (Seldom and Personal Asked Questions) to avoid openning new threads for questions like this one.
2- we have now 258 threads opened for Hermes and that makes searching for a solution never easy unless we delete the dead and inactive threads which exceed the 150 threads... unbelievable, isn't it?
thanks
PS sorry mate, I have nothing against you personally
Wow, it took all of 18 posts to obtain that attitude? I have bookmarked and read over 50 threads. I read the wiki, I read the AT&T HTC forums, I read the Howardforums, Aximsite/MobilitySite, this site and even joined HTC Club.
Many threads, tell you how fast a cooked ROM is or what apps are in the ROM, I don't see anyone saying anything about the performance of the default HTC ROMs besides AT&T ROMs stink. I haven't seen any threads on why some people actually prefer the default to cooked ROMs or vice versa.
Nothing against you, but if searching for a solution is never easy for a savvy veteran like yourself, what makes you think every visitor or new member will find exactly what they are looking for? Even in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390603&page=4, you mentioned sticking to the default HTC ROM, you didn't go into details? If you would have just given the reasons why you picked the default ROM, that would have been extremely helpful, instead you assume I'm lazy and went on your soapbox.
I hope you gain some tolerance by your 25th post.
Cheers
I've been running the default 6.0 since November. I've been thinking of going to a cooked 6.0 or 6.1 ROM but have not taken the plunge. I have yet to see one thread regarding any that did not have several "It HR every XXXX days/hrs/min etc.. "
As of now I've had my share of lockups but nothing that a soft reset did not fix. While the AT&T 6.0 may be full of bloat it is the most reliable as I have not seen anyone complain that it Hard Resets.
Hope that helps.
HeyKrop, thanks for the feedback. ExactlyThat was my concern and wondering if the default HTC ROM would be better than AT&T, but not equal to a cooked version.
Right now, I'm leading to HTC's ROM and was hoping to find a definitive difference between that version and any cooked ROM. I'll continue "searching the threads" before making my final decision.
Thanks for taking time out to help a newbie.
(sigh) yes another thread on noob flashing.. guess it's my turn!
Hello,
i've been flashin my hermes for a year now and my advice would be.:
JUMP IN! the water is great my friend.
if your into flashin roms and learning from (experience). This is a good place to be.
There is wonderful talent here in xda, and the share their findings for us to learn and try out.
Don't be scared man! Just flash away!!
I recommend start with stock rom.. the move up to cooked wm6, theeeennn to 6.1's.. by then you should know the in's and outs
of your phone.
check some of the older schaaps roms. also search for my personal fav blackdragon.. he did a masterful job on a wm6 rom.
then graduate to 6.1..
-peace and happy flashing!
also...
If i remember correctly if you do flash the official ATT rom, you can soft reset the device right before the Carrier specific customization begins and interrupt all the att bloat.
I repeat again my dear friend/brother/... I really have nothing against you personally, and I am myself not that expert to answer all questions from everybody. I have a device and I'm trying almost everything on it because I know I'm dealing with software issues and I can reset whenever I want... so no risk at all in "jumping into the water" (thanks Joshkoss) as long as you read the necessary step-by-step guides.
I'm sorry for my intolerance, I surely didn't mean it to be.
PS I'm not counting my posts
Dude,
Come to think of it, When i got my phone, I didn't read one wiki before I started flashing... It's that safe!! Just make sure you have HARD SPL!!
Later
joshkoss said:
Dude,
Come to think of it, When i got my phone, I didn't read one wiki before I started flashing... It's that safe!! Just make sure you have HARD SPL!!
Later
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I remember that I unlocked my phone before having the hard SPL installed and after that I began to read the WIKIs
all htc rom
htc tytn i want htc tytn 200
update rom plz help
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I remember that I unlocked my phone before having the hard SPL installed and after that I began to read the WIKIs
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he he he he , same here. i also did the same and after i installed hard spl. bcoz i wasn't aware of hardspl and i didn't read the deatils available in wiki section of hermes at that time.
also i agree with josh koss quote "jump in, water is great". i really do agree with him. but in my opinion there are alway some sort of bugs available in cooked roms and they are not perfect but the official roms are perfect and there is rare chance that there will be any bug in it. i've tried many cooked roms of 6.0, 6.1 and 6.5, but rite now i am using official HTC rom from last 3 weeks and i haven't face any problem yet.
but the decision is yours, so cheers
Before everybody gets all peeved at me for this, I've done my research, and I've done my homework and PLENTY of searches. Here's the deal.
I recently purchased a Tilt (and am waiting for the damn AT&T WM 6.1 upgrade), and I gave my brother my old 8525. His needs are pretty basic...AIM, txts, email, internet, and GPS (I gave him my external and set him up w/ TT7). He's more of a intermediate user than a beginner, but I would like to keep it very simple for him. What would be the best rom for his 8525 (preferably WM 6.1) that would be the easiest to use, and of course the fastest. He doesn't need any extra bloatware or anything. I'm a pretty advanced user myself, so I can help him out as much as possible.
Also, any recommendations for me? I'm sick of waiting for AT&T's 6.1 upgrade. I was thinking about flashing the Tytn II rom on there but IDK.
Thanks, and try not to flame too bad.
Don't wait for the upgrade; it'll be crappy anyways. Flash to one of the custom ROMs here and you cetrainly wont regret it.
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Don't wait for the upgrade; it'll be crappy anyways. Flash to one of the custom ROMs here and you cetrainly wont regret it.
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That's what I was thinking. Which 6.1 ROM would you suggest for my Tilt? I want speed and power/performance. I can install all the custom apps myself (I would prefer too). I'm still running AT&T's bloat'ed 6.0 ROM
As far as the 8525, which 6.1 ROM would you suggest for him? Speed and performance. Again, I can install all the custom apps myself.
try a lite rom dvh, crc, and/or pdacorner wm6.1 for hermes.
check the tilt forum section for their cooked wm6.1's...
happy flashing!
well
let me know how you get on, the tilt will be my next phone, kaiser with video calling that is, as i believe it is still reasonably new release, with known issues hopefully the doctors here have already ironed out.
However as people here been saying, let the fun begin by flashing, make sure you read the wiki thoroughly before you do so.
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Before everybody gets all peeved at me for this, I've done my research, and I've done my homework and PLENTY of searches. Here's the deal.
I recently purchased a Tilt (and am waiting for the damn AT&T WM 6.1 upgrade), and I gave my brother my old 8525. His needs are pretty basic...AIM, txts, email, internet, and GPS (I gave him my external and set him up w/ TT7). He's more of a intermediate user than a beginner, but I would like to keep it very simple for him. What would be the best rom for his 8525 (preferably WM 6.1) that would be the easiest to use, and of course the fastest. He doesn't need any extra bloatware or anything. I'm a pretty advanced user myself, so I can help him out as much as possible.
Also, any recommendations for me? I'm sick of waiting for AT&T's 6.1 upgrade. I was thinking about flashing the Tytn II rom on there but IDK.
Thanks, and try not to flame too bad.
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I would try CRC's 12.9 Naked Bigstorage for him, making sure to flash a shipped from first (don't want any nasty HR's).
I find my WM gets faster the longer I let it sit on the phone, and dam is my phone fast now
And for Tilt, Im not sure, best to read up, some have better performance than others, with the Direct 3D drivers ect.
What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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you are welcome to be the first one to try! such old questions that has been answered many many times.
i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
first of all the RAM and ROM size is different, it will turn your hermes to a brick ... but again, you're more than welcome to be the first one to try.
well then that is all I needed to know. That is the reason why I can not do it.. cause the ram and the rom size is different. Thank You.
You wont be able to install it. But if you would like to brick your hermes, then go ahead and try it and let us know
GOD DAMN!!! Congrats Men!
The most inspirated question i have heard I come from wizard threads and letme tell you...
The RUU original will tell you ERROR (XXXX) Wrong device or wrong ID or wrong ROM Update Utility
God Damn!!! but if you try to extract the NBF from the exe with winrar...
maybe it's named Ruu_signed.nbf for Hermes... or its calle NK.nbf as in Wizard or maybe is called Dont_extract_me_fool.nbf
Maybe yopu can rename it to RUU Signed.nbf and put it on RUU Wrapper and run it!!!
I know a guy that has an Universal and flash a Custom rom for Wizard on its...
OBVIOUSLY it is bricked!!!! a blank screen only! no Bootloader no hardreset.
So... answered bye
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What would happen if I attempted to download (from htc) and install the windows mobile 6.1 update for the tilt on my 8525? I am currently running SPL-2.10.Olipro.. do you thing it would brick the phone? I mean why wouldn't it work? The tilt is a 400mhz process same as the 8525.. only added features on the tilt is the GPS and auto focus camera...Any thoughts? yes I am a noob.
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I know that this has been answered--NO but I thought you might like to know a bit more.
1--The hermes uses a completely different chipset and video set up.
2--the ROM and RAM sizes are completely different. The tilt has more than two times the amount that the hermes has
3--The Hermes is a single processor device running a 400Mhz as you stated but the tilt is a dual processor device --one running the os and the other handling the calls to hardware such as the radio and gps.
4--The devices take completely different drivers. You should have researched the specs before asking this type of question.
Finally, winmobile is not like xp. It is not built to handle any hardware you through at it. It is very customized for the hardware on which it is installed. It has to be to fit in the small storage on these devices.
There are 6.1 versions of cooked roms already for the hermes. just use one of those! Better yet, don't ever flash your device because ...well I am sure you can figure out the rest of that sentence!
Tilt is very old phone...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
I bet you're glad you asked now
Welcome to the ever friendly world of XDA!!!
Mil3 said:
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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huh? he's not a chef!
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i am not talking about cooked versions.. I am talking about OEM. I rather not be the first one to try but technically what would happen?
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Or a n00b asking to a n00b...
Tilt is an old phone? I think that he wants to say... hermes is better than tilt.... then I understands that he agree to the other n00b to flash even a Diamond ROM... does I am wrong, well I understand that...
Tilt rom!? such a old phone. Why would you install old phone rom on your nice hermes? Try some new rom ... I know, why don't you try the Diamond rom? I like that one . let us know how it works... Hey, and welcome to XDA forum... allways good to have a another new cook.
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Tilt is newer than hermes.
Let us know how it works? Men this guy is dangerous!!!!
Good to have aNNNN another new cook? what da heck? hahaha
Enjoy your fantastic and fabulous thread.... n00bs!!!
I think he wants an original 6.1 on his hermes... thats all... but men why dont you read there is a thread with this question.
I think we all got our noob bashing off our chest and I think the OP has got the message its not a good idea. How bout we drop this pointless thread now.....
Another noob here
I realize that y'all become impatient and annoyed with noobs, but this very question is what led me to this site in the first place. I apologize that I'm just a concerned and inexperienced consumer trying to gain knowledge from the best source I can find online, and that I haven't really mastered searching this site as well as everyone else to find the answers to my dilemma.
I have an AT&T 8525 and HTC told me that they aren't going to do any more updates, and also, no, I can't download the Tilt ROM onto my phone. In fact, they planned to pull the WM 6 ROMs off their site on October 31. I just rechecked the HTC site this evening, and they've removed *all* updates for the 8525 from the page I used to visit. So if I brick my phone by doing some silly noob thing, I can't even go back and get the old WM 6.0 ROM.
I've already had the opportunity to see the new AT&T Fuze since it hit the stores yesterday, but I'm wary of buying it the minute it comes out. I would prefer to lurk for a while and see what the rest of y'all have to say in the Raphael forums before I spend the money.
Please be charitable to people like me who are just trying to be cautious. I love the phone I have because it's been very reliable, but yet it's obvious that there is a "planned obsolescence" for the 8525. Meanwhile, I'm just looking here for something I can do to get WM 6.1 for my 8525 until I'm satisfied that they've gotten the bugs out of the Fuze. I think there's still plenty of life left in my 8525 and you might say I just want to renew my love affair with it.
OK, noob rant over..thanks for your consideration!
Step 1... Install Hard SPL V7 onto your 8525. It helps recover your Hermes if it does go south while doing the update.
Step 2... Look at the WM06 section of the forum. Just about ALL the roms displayed there at the moment are Wm6.1. Read the Chefs writeup about their ROM and see if you like it.
If you did a search with the keywords "Hermes roms" it may have led you back to the original stock ROMs and cooked ROMs. These are pretty old now though.
Cheers...
It doesn't hurt to actually get your own library of ROMs, I made sure I have my stock Telstra rom stored on my hard drive. Since you knew that the stock ROM you use was about to be pulled you should've downloaded it so if something does go wrong you actually have it and don't remain victim to HTC's will. Now it may be harder to find the stock rom you use...
Hi
I have never owned a HTC phone, or any other Windows Mobile phone for that matter, but have just ordered one and after looking around this site I am looking forward to its arrival.
Basically, I had a Nokia 5800 XpressMusic Smartphone but I didn't really like having a completley touchscreen phone and so I sold it and went looking for a simple, solid phone with a QWERTY keyboard - this is when I came across the HTC TyTn (or in my case the SPV M3100 - but I gather they are pretty much identical)
Anyway, after looking in various places over the internet, I have become rather excited about the idea of tweaking my phone to suit my needs. I saw this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H82qOZAufQo
Which shows a very cool layout on the phone. I was wondering if anybody knew where I could find this ROM? Also, I would like a ROM which is quite quick and simple, yet still looks nice - anybody have any suggestions?
Finally, if anybody has any suggestions of cool/useful must have applications for a beginner, please post them here too!
Thankyou for the help this site has given me
Regards
Ok first of all as it must be i recomend my roms...
and then my partners rom right here go and take a look at the pics preview in every Rom thread... but before you flash your first custom rom remember!!! you must to!!!!! unlock your phone by HardSPL!!!!!!
Then you can come here and take a look at the market place jejeje everything is free... read carefully the unlocking process and be care! basically you will need a full battery charged, no SIM and NO Storage card... Windows XP a good USB cable and patience for somuch reading and asking!!
Recomended if your phone has SPL 1.04 or 1.10 or 1.40 perforn the HSPL v7 from olipro...
BTW the OS in the video is WM6.1 with Touchflo manilla2D and old version of course.... there are newer...
Welcome to the WINMO world!!!
+ Que PPC said:
Ok first of all as it must be i recomend my roms...
and then my partners rom right here go and take a look at the pics preview in every Rom thread... but before you flash your first custom rom remember!!! you must to!!!!! unlock your phone by HardSPL!!!!!!
Then you can come here and take a look at the market place jejeje everything is free... read carefully the unlocking process and be care! basically you will need a full battery charged, no SIM and NO Storage card... Windows XP a good USB cable and patience for somuch reading and asking!!
Recomended if your phone has SPL 1.04 or 1.10 or 1.40 perforn the HSPL v7 from olipro...
BTW the OS in the video is WM6.1 with Touchflo manilla2D and old version of course.... there are newer...
Welcome to the WINMO world!!!
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Thanks for the reply I will continue to keep reading around and if I have any problems in the process I will post into this thread
Which of your ROMS would you reccommend for a fast loading Operating System that still looks aesthetically pleasing?
Also, do you have any tips for conserving battery life? I think this phone looks amazing for the low price I paid, but it is a considerably old phone (nearly four years!) so I am slightly concerned.
Thanks again for the help
Battery life is a xtrange behaivour on every windows mobile 6.5 sometimes it is good sometime it sucks your batt so fast but the only way you can say this is the right Good rom for me is trying all one by one maybe one is the one that likes you! enjoy and happy Unlocking and flashing times
I got mine a week ago and came here in hopes to find the knowledge and tools to get my Vario II looking sleek and modern.
First thing to do is read, read, read and know what everything refers to..
As I understand it, there are basicly 3 parts of the phone that can and probably needs to be updated..
* HardSPL
* The Rom of your choice
* The Radio version
All of these things are very easy if you follow the guides.
Start with HardSPL
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=16&Itemid=26
After doing that, the hardest part is finding the rom that best suits you.
You've already pointed out that you like the touchflo style interface with manilla2D
This is a very nice rom, it's fast, easy to use and you can pretty much use your thumb for everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=599474
There are 3 versions, you want this one.. Manilla 21877 3g
Now, while downloading, read this guide..
http://www.mrvanx.org/thg/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=17&Itemid=26
That should be all the info you need, good luck
Wow.. thanks a lot for the help This is a very friendly forum! Could you please quickly elaborate on the advantages of changing the "radio version"?
Also, the ROM you linked me to looks nice, but I don't really like the menu layout (where you can see 'Today' 'Settings' 'Connections' etc.) are there any alternatives or can they be changed?
Thanks again
Dont worry too much about the radio, you should be fine...
Go through the section and look at the screenshots of the roms, remember, the one you saw on youtube is based on the older windows mobile 6.1 and there's only a handfull of manilla2s roms based on windows mobile 6.5
Take your time and you through all of them befor you decide
Like you said, the tytn is an older phone and with loaded roms the amount of memory does seem to be problematic..
No rom will be exactly the way you want it, I have probably flashed more then 10 different roms.. Do that and you'll probably find what it is you're looking for!
Have fun and dont hesitate to ask
In general the less flashy it looks, the faster it will be, and the better the battery life will be.
Ontop of that some cores are better optimised than others, so far it looks like the 23XXX WM6.5.X builds seem to be okeys, should get at least 1 day out of it, again it all depends on the rom youy chose and what you do with it.
Edit: Also, the radio rom you flash is general very important for battery life, and newer =! better with radio roms, I think theres a pretty good guide and list of where radios have been tested on the wiki page.
Just be careful flashing the Radio Rom though, a mistake or accident means you won't be making or receiving any calls/mms/sms ever again.
I tend to use the sd card method for flashing radios as it minimizes the chance of the PC stuffing up....
Make sure you have Hard SPL V3 installed before any flashing though...
Cheers...
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I have Windows 7. Can I still flash my phone with it? Has anyone had any problems?
You say that first I have to run the HardSPL, which unlocks my phone? My phone is with ATT. Will I have to go and put back the ATT settings so I can send messages, etc?
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I have Windows 7. Can I still flash my phone with it? Has anyone had any problems?
You say that first I have to run the HardSPL, which unlocks my phone? My phone is with ATT. Will I have to go and put back the ATT settings so I can send messages, etc?
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I have been flashing with Windows 7 Ultimate 32-Bit with no issues. I have an AT&T branded 8525 and did the HardSPL flash from SD card with no issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=296722&page=116#1160
Use this method to flash V7. IMO it's the safest and most reliable method. If you are still running stock WM5.0 on your 8525 I feel bad for you.
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Did you put SSPL-HERM on your phone and run it?
Hello. I've been searching this site, smart phone junkies, google and under my bed, and I for the life of me cannot find a comprehensive Sprint HTC Touch Pro 2 flashing to a windows 6.5 rom.
As of right now, my device has the stock windows 6.1
I'm sort of new to this whole scene, and am LOVING my new smartphone, and am ready to delve deeper into it, customization and such.
I dislike the plain feel of the today screen for stock windows 6.1 and thus why im searching to upgrade to 6.5 since I do not want to wait for sprint to come out with theirs.
I apologize if i'm just ignorant, but like I said, I could not find a comprehensive walkthrough for newbs on how to get a windows 6.5 rom for a Sprint HTC touch pro 2. Could someone point me in the right direction? I know the risks, but that's why I want a walkthrough, so I can follow step by step on how to do it properly and safely, and how to revert back to the stock 6.1 if need be.
thank you in advance.
Tony
i"m with you on that!! I just got my TP2 2 days ago and decided not to set up anything until I have 6.5 on it. someone please help!!
THIS thread gives the instructions you need.
For CDMA (Sprint/Verizon), note that the instructions are a bit different at the beginning, and you'll have to make sure you choose ROM's that are suitable for your model/carrier
Thank you!! im nervous to upgrade to winmo 6.5 for sprint, but i know it'll be better so wish me luck! =)