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Running Windows Mobile on iPhone...it needs to be done!!!

so i was looking at the many iphone knock offs and personally i am not impressed with the hardware, but as i am a pc and not a mac i will never ever use the Mac OSX operating system without an overwhelming feeling of shame as though i have just cheated on my wife; not that i have and would know what that feels like but you get my drift.
my point is gentlemen that we need to collect our talents and intelligence and move toward a break through in modding. I am currently running SNN Lite Edition and am very pleased with it. Upon exploring the OS, i realized that there exist the possibility to expand upon this work and take it to new heights.
to begin with as i said earlier i am running WM6.1 SNN Lite edition, 3rd party apps include SPB Mobile Shell II, Wisbar Advance 3, Advance Config, Network Wizard, Resco Explorer and Photo Viewer, among others. The only 2 of the apps that i mention that have anything to do with what we are and will be discussing are WisBar Advance 3 and SPC MS II.
take a look at the following screen shots, photoshoped so dnt ask me for the ROM i haven't created it...heck i wouldn't even know where to start;
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i mean all we're really talking about here is a mobile version of bootcamp or something to the effect of creating partitions on the iphone hard-drive and then booting into the windows mobile and delete the iphone rom or better yet since one would have to spend so much on buying the device then one could have both OS's running...choosing to booting into one or the other.
But again i wuldnt know where to start so if any of you genii could figure out how to do this then i can assure you, you would go down in modding history.

jus for the hell of it, someone in Development and Hacking started a thread entitled "MUST SEE" about how he found an "iPhone" that runs both the iPhone rom and WM6

it's definitely some kind of chinese iClone obviously.
i suppose the problem here would be drivers for the screen.
also, a whole bunch of the features wouldn't work out that well(visual voicemail, accelerometer)

The only real upside I see is the hardware and that is only until the new devices like the Xperia1 come out.
For pure geek factor I will admit that it would be the bee's knee's though.

So...
Any one seriously consider tackling this on? I wish I had the knowledge to do it, because I would in a HEARTBEAT.
EDIT: Anyone see this yet? Thoughts?
http://solomobi.com/viewproduct.asp?pro_id=1364&page=1

actually it's an iphone...i simply photoshoped screenshots of my phone onto it. i'm running WM6.1 the screen ou see there is Dredd's mobile shell theme for mobile shell 2 and of course the taskbar is vista pocket 2 running on wisbar advance 3...and a WMP11 skin.
but you see my point here...however you want to customize your windows mobile device you can...which you cant do with an iphone...

lemme drop some research some you:
Partioning/Dual-Booting the iphone http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/03/12/dual-booting-the-iphone/
Jailbreaking the easy way:
http://www.ziphone.org/
iphone to have dual-core processor
http://www.iphoneatlas.com/2008/04/23/a-powerpc-in-your-iphone/

dang this iclones seem 2 have better thing than the iphone i mean dual simcard slots,cameras and bluetooth, and running wm6... apple should take some notes...

impossible
Running windows mobile/windowsCE is completely impossible from a end user/hacker point of view for the iphone let alone ANY device that does not run WM/CE. it all comes down to drivers, and the developers(like HTC, Gigabyte...) makes them.
You have to understand each WM ROM is custom made for each device by manufacturers. WM/CE is fully componentised from ground up right down to including keyboard support, so only minimal drivers are included in the ROM to make it small.
So unless you can do programming in low level(010010101010) and have complete access to hardware and chip design then it is impossible to have it boot WM natively.
btw, we are hackers(or some of us are), and we *might* be able to make a device emulator and just emulate WM/CE like on the PC. of course, currently thats next to nothing - as we need an opensource/free emulator for WM/CE that does not exist.
the only way to make it real and feasible is VNC. They did the same thing with Android-on-WM(and i think it works great).

the screen resolution of the iphone is absolute incompatible.

pissed once again - non-htc devices all over the place

just wanted to remind our appreciated mods and admins that once again the general thread become $hit...why....because it's full of non-htc devices
i consider and respect that you are people with other business and own lifes but it seems like no one cares about it
i may think about one more "grand non-htc thread report" like i did in august...but i need mod's support...to once again take the thread to the mod forum and clean the junk

thats right tell them again

Here here!

Have youread somewhere HTC ONLY!?????
Pissed off?
take care of your large Tongue men!
If you see somebody asking--->
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Help me upgrade this
hahahaha so.... post this even tough alert it !!!!!!!!!!! what do you have?
Maybe is better an OMNIA.... who cares....

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Pissed off?
take care of your large Tongue men!
If you see somebody asking--->
Help me upgrade this
hahahaha so.... post this even tough alert it !!!!!!!!!!! what do you have?
Maybe is better an OMNIA.... who cares....
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have you ever been on the main page... www.xda-developers.com
if you were you'd know what am i talking about
yeah that's reeeeaaaaly funy ,you genius
Welcome to xda-developers.com
This site is about certain PDA-phones, made by a firm called HTC in Taiwan. Their makers named them 'Wallaby', 'Himalaya', 'Blue Angel', 'Wizard' and 'TyTN', but almost nobody knows them by those names. The mobile provider O2 sells them under the brand-name 'XDA', and that's what we had in our hands first. They're also known as Qtek, MDA, SX-56, Hermes and many, many other names.
Since we develop software for it, we need information, and nobody seemed eager or ready to give us what we needed. So we 'reverse-engineered' the devices, found a lot of information, and shared it with the world. But as our site grew we realised that lots of ordinary users were also suffering from a lack of support. They started using the xda-developers forum to communicate and before long the forum was as much a user forum as it was a developer forum.
We hope that you will enjoy this site and find it as useful as we do. We encourage you to donate or otherwise support this site. Of course absolutely all proceeds from donations will benefit this community.
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You should just buy an Omnia, then you would want people to talk about it in your fav ~Win mobile place.
I agree...I think....with this....maybe?!?
"hahahaha so.... post this even tough alert it !!!!!!!!!!! what do you have?
Maybe is better an OMNIA.... who cares.... "
If I have interpreted it correctly....!

yarod_g14 said:
You should just buy an Omnia, then you would want people to talk about it in your fav ~Win mobile place.
I agree...I think....with this....maybe?!?
"hahahaha so.... post this even tough alert it !!!!!!!!!!! what do you have?
Maybe is better an OMNIA.... who cares.... "
If I have interpreted it correctly....!
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i have notning against omnia and such but according to forum rules and statute those are off topics like car engines or nuclear fusion or whatever
and what are you complaining anyway you have big omnia thread in off topics and that's ok...BECAUSE IT IS IN OFF-TOPIC
that's the point go there and talk about asus, samsung ,nokia...don't spam the general thread
oh by the way...this is NOT a win moblie place

iphone users get all the cool stuff!!!!

Just found this http://www.ononesoftware.com/blog/2009/05/15/iphone-app-from-onone/, it looks usefull (to me anyway) shame I don't have an Iphone.
It's such a shame there aren't so many cool apps or well polished apps for WM6+ the hardware is probably capable of a lot but i feel apple users and android users too are getting all the fun, new apps all the time, nicely presented, stylish usefull (admittedly some less usefull than others)
I am a very visual person, i'm a photographer and I design websites and dabble in a bit of graphic UI design sometimes, and I find a lot of apps for my phone are visually dull, visually lacking in inspiration and usefull as some may be (currently using pocketwit a lot) they just don't compete with shiny apple/android apps.
The screen shot mock ups for the new HTC Hero look like they are trying to hop onboard the iphone app/widget train and look nice but I tried out a host of different twitter clients for my TP2 before I went for pocketwit (which I can theme a little) but ditched them partly because they looked dull. It's like finding a website that someone created which is the most usefull website you could ever use...but they built it using badly structured tables with garish bouncing animated giffs and wrote it in the late 90's using MS frontpage.
sorry, it's late and i'm a little tired and i felt it had to be said...

bah why not use remote desktop on the TP2 with EOS Utility on the laptop and an adhoc connection between the two. Thats what I do... live preview and all...

If the software that hurts your visual esthetics is freeware, I would suggest that you contact the developer and offer him your help on polishing up the UI. This is meant serious. As being a hobby developer myself, I sometimes find it hard to create the gui in aspects of esthetic. I make it functional from my point of view but it's not looking nice.
On the other site, you just might want to get an iphone or android...
just my 2ct.

offering to glam up apps is an option of course, this was the last ui theme i designed...quite a while ago now but it started a big following of people trying to port it to other music player apps which was quite cool.
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I love my TP2 and glossy and refined as the iphone and android phones are they just don't cut it with my business and working requirements.

See that link you posted earlier ir803? I don't think it's that impressive. Read the detail, you need to hook a laptop up to the camera over USB then the iPhone application connects to the PC.
You can already do this on the TP2. Just run the same PC-camera software and access it via remote desktop or VNC. If they offer a web interface to it then just connect over the web in your phones browser.
That's the difference between the TP2 and the iPhone. On the latter you can do what someone else has specifically allowed you. On the TP2 you can use generic tools to do just about anything.
But yeah, the aesthetic side of it is poor. Most of the apps I run are reasonably polished but there are a few uglies I use such as PuTTY and VxUtil just because their great functionality outweighs the visual manure that is their UI.

I asked @joebelfiore about the video out feature on wp7

In MIX10 we all noticed that Joe Belfiore can directly output the display of his Samsung WP7 Developer prototype phone onto the big screen.
You may search for the video demo "Joe Belfiore Demos Windows Phone 7" in Google.
I searched on internet and received not many info on this. So I directly asked him on twitter @joebelfiore and he replied me in message.
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This img is from my thread I posted just now on Chinese forum...I am a Chinese...
If anyone like me want to give presentations just as Joe did with his WP7 phone, I think the hope is not shinny~May rather buy a Nokia N8 or even Nokia 5800.
Some android devices like HTC Incredible and Samsung Galaxy S support tv out,too.
Just a bit disappointed~I used to hope to introduce WP7 devices to the company I serve as work phones. But it doesn't support VPN, and has no tv out, not to mention the NFC. You can't even copy the office file directly to your Phone without unlocking it. Maybe to choose android the other day, although it's Siemens here...
P.S If this post is supposed to cause any trouble because I mentioned the direct message from Mr. Joe Belfiore or the name of Siemens, just let me know and I will delete this right away. No means to make trouble.
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Just like PG2G said on the 4th floor, firstly I am happy to see Joe answered my question directly without hiding something because people in his position usually don't do that. I am still a fan of Windows Phone 7 cuz I really don't want to show a game machine desktop (android and iOS) on the projector of a serious meeting room.

EDIT: nevermind

Lol... I'm sure another social network will make the cut, though.
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While you didn't get the answer you'd ask for, it is pretty cool that someone in his position is actually listening to and answering people's questions.

PG2G said:
While you didn't get the answer you'd ask for, it is pretty cool that someone in his position is actually listening to and answering people's questions.
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Yeah, that's also what I think. People in his position hardly give feedback to normal people like you and me. So it's really nice of him to do so.
And that's why I still haven't give up the WP7 system, since I think letting all people in the meeting room to see my android desktop which looks like a game machine is not really a cool stuff~~~

Don't wanna say much but watch this guy!

I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp

Well, I can't take a quy serious who calls it Windows Mobile 8 and this vid is also quite heavily biased. And you will also quickly notice his main interest: good hardware specs.

I couldn't even get past the the first 40 seconds.
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Cant believe you made me click on that link and add to his view counts!

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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I want to thank you SO MUCH for this link, that clicking on the THANKS button IS NOT ENOUGH!:laugh:

"Windows Mobile 8"
wtf...
he also says that only "Windows Mobile 8" devices are gonna be able to acces gmail... wtf

Kenzibit said:
I don't wanna comment but you can after watching this:
SmartphonePedia Show ep11 Windows Mobile 8 vs Android OS, GS3 Release, HTC One X
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-SsBpZ0js&feature=plcp
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Lolz, 40 secs wasted on my life~ XD

That dumbass deleted my comments...
u__u

Thanks for the lulz xD

What a moron, he obviously has no idea what he's talking about.
Android fanboy.

This guy is a complete idiot! Waste of my time especially with the Windows Mobile reference and the Gmail app piece. And he says Windows Mobile never compared to Android. It's because Android wasn't around when it came out. And they minimized Windows onto a phone in like 2000...Windows Mobile:laugh:

I managed to get a good 3min out of that before his voice and general lack of any intelligence what so ever got the better of me, forcing me to try stab my screen with a pitch folk when ever he opened his month.
I am amazed that such inbreeding still goes on in western countries, which surely must be the only reason for such a mentally challenged presenter.
Ill happily list anyone valid pros and cons of any device and remain completely objective whilst doing it AND putting aside that WP suites my needs best, why cant people who put them selves in that position at least attempt to be impartial?!
unless of course that was his sole aim!
To get all clear thinking people flapping about him being a complete nob.
In which case my friend, you have exceled yourself

I was waiting for him to start signing the Barbie Girl song.

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That dumbass deleted my comments...
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He deleted both of my comments too.

he is funny,total android fanboy.
first he cry about wp7 phones that can't be updated to wp8 (that is actually a bummer) and hoe stupid MS is
and about 5 min later he cry's about 10 min long how bad verison is that he can't get ics on his phones
F*****ing nope if you ask me , they actually sould ban him from the internet and take away all phones he has , give him a brick to use for calling

Getting him an Aligator would be enough
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for those who are not familiar with it

This guy is clearly tripping on something. I found this video hilarious.

I watched about 40 seconds, wrote a vile reply that most likely will be erased and left. It hurt to watch that bull****.

He needs a Kleenex.

With everyone trying to sit through it, I decided to as well. Horrible presenter - not much in the way of facts or information, he just 'feels bad' about Win8. All I could think throughout the time I could stand was CAGE MATCH!!! Let's see how this fanboi stands up to a WP fanboi... err, whatever we call General the Destroyer [FONT=&quot]http://www.youtube.com/user/generalthedestroyer
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