AT&T Tilt 2 PTT button capture remap - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

ok so i know it's easy to remap the ptt button to a program but i have a challenge for those that are up to it. can anyone remap the ptt button to actually take pictures within the camera program? let the challenge begin!

dirtybirdphoenix said:
ok so i know it's easy to remap the ptt button to a program but i have a challenge for those that are up to it. can anyone remap the ptt button to actually take pictures within the camera program? let the challenge begin!
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You can try the Rhodium Key Remapper, details on THIS thread
It claims to be able to remap ANY hardware key on a Rhodium to just about any function you could imagine...but I don't have a Tilt2 to test out the PTT button to confirm. You're welcome to give it a shot though!

dirtybirdphoenix said:
ok so i know it's easy to remap the ptt button to a program but i have a challenge for those that are up to it. can anyone remap the ptt button to actually take pictures within the camera program? let the challenge begin!
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... and how about having the PTT button take a picture only if the camera is active -- otherwise it retains whatever other useful function it's mapped to (for example, mine is currently mapped to rotate the screen).

pistou said:
... and how about having the PTT button take a picture only if the camera is active -- otherwise it retains whatever other useful function it's mapped to (for example, mine is currently mapped to rotate the screen).
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that's good i like that idea! i wish this thread got some heat so the developers took notice, i would like a firm answer i don't like installing a program just to findout it doesn't work

OK, so I just had a bit of a play around with the Rhodium Keyboard Controller, and indeed you can configure a key to perform a specific action depending on the application running at the time (or at least that's my interpretation of it).
While I was able to get the config to the point of "OK, the camera is running, what do you want the PTT button to do?", but could not figure out how to specify the "take a picture" action.

pistou said:
OK, so I just had a bit of a play around with the Rhodium Keyboard Controller, and indeed you can configure a key to perform a specific action depending on the application running at the time (or at least that's my interpretation of it).
While I was able to get the config to the point of "OK, the camera is running, what do you want the PTT button to do?", but could not figure out how to specify the "take a picture" action.
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thats the challenge i'm putting out there, i want to have the ptt button actually take a picture while in camera mode
will anyone accept this challenge?

pistou said:
OK, so I just had a bit of a play around with the Rhodium Keyboard Controller, and indeed you can configure a key to perform a specific action depending on the application running at the time (or at least that's my interpretation of it).
While I was able to get the config to the point of "OK, the camera is running, what do you want the PTT button to do?", but could not figure out how to specify the "take a picture" action.
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the action is simply 'ok' or enter. I haven't tried the app but on a Fuze the center of the dpad is essentially the enter key and that will trigger a photo to be taken

I've used the remapper and my PPT opens the camera and takes pictures

It works fine, just try it out. The problem is that the key is on the bottom of the phone when held like it is supposed to be and it also does not have the semi-click focus ability (though when you click it it will focus and then take the shot, though that takes a long time)

bugsykoosh said:
the action is simply 'ok' or enter. I haven't tried the app but on a Fuze the center of the dpad is essentially the enter key and that will trigger a photo to be taken
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For the key remapping, I've had success mapping it to "Enter" (couldn't find "OK" in the list of keys to map to). Attached is a snap of the configuration with the Rhodium keyboard controller.
petard said:
It works fine, just try it out. The problem is that the key is on the bottom of the phone when held like it is supposed to be and it also does not have the semi-click focus ability (though when you click it it will focus and then take the shot, though that takes a long time)
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Yes, that's true. What might be possible is to map the focus to a short press of the key, and the "snap" to a short press. I'm too lazy to figure out how.

Sparkz914 said:
I've used the remapper and my PPT opens the camera and takes pictures
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By 'remapper' do you mean the Rhodium Keyboard Controller, or something else? I'd like this too, touching the screen to take a picture is moronic.
Duh, why didn't I try that before! Sure enough, set the PTT to be Camera in AEButtonPlus and it sure does take the picture too! Awesome.

dirtybirdphoenix said:
ok so i know it's easy to remap the ptt button to a program but i have a challenge for those that are up to it. can anyone remap the ptt button to actually take pictures within the camera program? let the challenge begin!
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I probably don't understand what you're asking for... but I do have assigned my PTT Button to Camera (form settings, personal, buttons, scroll to Camera - on stock ATT ROM) and I do take pictures within the camera program just by pressing the PTT button. If I misunderstood your post, disregard...

They are talking about this cab
It is a little program to allow you to remap the hardware keys. You can even program functions or programs to double and tripple clicks as well. Don't be scared to install software, especially something this small. And if you are a OCD patient, then purchase Sprite Backup.
Now to answer the posters question: You have to have the camera running first to take a picture. If you want you could set camera start for a double PTT click and assign take picture to a single PTT press. Use attached program to accomplish this easily.

khaytsus said:
By 'remapper' do you mean the Rhodium Keyboard Controller, or something else? I'd like this too, touching the screen to take a picture is moronic.
Duh, why didn't I try that before! Sure enough, set the PTT to be Camera in AEButtonPlus and it sure does take the picture too! Awesome.
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Yes I used the Rhodium Keyboard Controller to set up my PTT to use the camera it was pretty simple

From what I've read - as of 4 or so weeks ago - due to new camera updates... the standard remap to capture is no longer working...

if u can find energyrom may 1st version rhodiumkeymapper will work anything newer and it wont work as camera "shoot" button because of the new camera package but the speed increase is incredible..im running the latest n greatest june version of energy now.

Any Idea where I might roll back ROM... I think I'm pushing the ROM envelope... my tilt2 is zippy but bugging out on me...
Worked on reg settings for a while trying to fix capture issue... got it to work (even tried combo with mute button) but rebooted and haven't been able to reproduce. My theory was "if I could eliminate the delay focus could just get it to capture. No dice.

correct me if im wrong but i tried high n low to make my ptt button "shoot" but no dice.. ever since i flashed an energy rom newer than may 1st. its to do with the camera package that energy replaced i believe its topaz camera now on june 19th version.

Try this solution?
from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6600483#post6600483
zyphuris55 said:
Install the keyboard controller for the rhodium, choose to add a key, press the PTT key "if you already have it mapped to something, don't worry. I also have apps mapped to the same button". When in the map config, click the [+] next to Rule. pull out the stylus, click the windows button, go to your camera, and stick the stylus back in. Below "Rule name" the window should say "IACSP20_Main" without the quotes. Choose "Direct key mapping", then select key "13 Enter" for the key. Finally send the key to the operating system.
What this does is: while you're in the camera window and push the PTT key, that key is pushing the enter key. It acts the same as the onscreen shutter button, as in, you have to hold the button. Good luck with your mapping.
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I haven't tried it yet, but it seems to be the answer you are looking for. Hope it helps.
Edit: I tried it and it works for me I also followed these directions to remap the volume up and down to do the same thing (they didn't do anything in camera mode anyway) and I like using them better. It has also helped with the quality of photos because I can hold the camera more still Yeah!

What version of the Rom... I tried something like this it didn't work - newer than May 1st... no work that's why...

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closing application with hardware keys ?

hello guys, i ve got x - button, i ve sbp pocket plus but they all need screen tap to actually close the application on hermes, so when i press the OK hardware button key it only minimizes any application running infront.
any idea how to actually close application from the hardware button ?
regards,... to you all..
there is another topic thats fairly similar to this. although an EFFECTIVE answer has not been found (well for me anyway)
a program called AE button pluss remaps all the buttons for different purposes. it works very well but im having some problems when trying to remap the OK buttons.
do a search for it. and give it a try. if it works. post back.
I've been using this one...
http://www.dinarsoft.com/handyswitcher/
Its commercial, but closes apps and clears memory as it goes. IMO nice little app.
zmit said:
there is another topic thats fairly similar to this. although an EFFECTIVE answer has not been found (well for me anyway)
a program called AE button pluss remaps all the buttons for different purposes. it works very well but im having some problems when trying to remap the OK buttons.
do a search for it. and give it a try. if it works. post back.
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I try this software and really close the apps with the OK button, and it is not hard to configure the buttos (i found it easy) but when using this app in my TyTN the scrollwheel stop responding... so at the end, it was more important for me use the scrollwheel than customize the hardware buttons so i quit using the AEB software...
I think that other people here has used the AEB app without problems.
Regards;
Mablan
Thanks for the info guys.. peace ..
well guys, ive tried AEB plus again and after a bit of fiddling around, ive managed to get it to work
naufil, is it working for you?
on that note, i have found a glitch. as soon as i try to map both the side 'OK' button and the front 'OK' button, they dont do anything.....
button #4075 works. but as soon as i map #405C to close active application as well, they both stop working

Recording audio using hardware button

My original Vario used button 5 to record my voice when I held the button for a few seconds. I recently installed Black Shadow and I have lost this functionality.
I have tried using the Buttons settings to reconfigure Button 5 (held) but I can't see the audio recording function in the list of available functions.
Any ideas?
Bobby
There is a cab for this somewhere called "wmxl v0.10 button 5 to record fix" I have it that I could mail over to you just let me know
avengerpenguin said:
There is a cab for this somewhere called "wmxl v0.10 button 5 to record fix" I have it that I could mail over to you just let me know
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Could you send it to me as well please
Thank you very much.
I'll upload it here
Here you go people, that should work
Thanks for posting the fix Avengerpenguin. I've been trying to get this function back.
I've installed the CAB, but no love. Am I missing a step?
CerebralPaulie said:
Thanks for posting the fix Avengerpenguin. I've been trying to get this function back.
I've installed the CAB, but no love. Am I missing a step?
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have you tried to select that feature through the settings screen for button assignment. I had to switch min to a diffrent feature that i wanted using that control.
Maybe this will help
Not sure if anyone can get their hands on one, but my father just got the HTC Kaiser, and it comes pre-programmed to use the record button to start a voice note in the standard notes program. I have no idea how to pull off the programming but everything needed, i imagine is done and in the phone already.
Tried selecting record feature to a button. Found that the "Record" shortcut does not function. Probably miss-programmed. Anyone know what the shortcut should be?
Bringing this BTT since I'm also having this same issue..
sk0t said:
Bringing this BTT since I'm also having this same issue..
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You must first install a cab file that removes or re-assigns the BTT button, then install the Cab file to create a record button 5.

Remap 'home' button to 'start'

Along the bottom of the phone there's a home button and an endcall which, within programmes, seem to do the same thing - take you back to the today screen. Or, in my case the 6.5 CHome thingy. And the back button in most apps takes you to the home screen too - so that's three buttons largely doing the same thing most of the time.
The new phones with 6.5 preinstalled will have a windows-flag start menu button, I assume this will open up the new hexagony start menu.
Is there a way of remapping the home button so it launches the start menu instead?
That is EXACTLY what I have been thinking for the last days. Pressing Home-key should naturally bring up the start-menu.
Nice idea, even because reaching the top left corner with your right thumb(maybe for left handed it's easier ) while holding the HD with the right hand is a little bit tricky
I'd like something small to do this but I have a feeling most people will return with the suggestion "use aebplus to remap"
I have the same feeling wiggz, There must be a registry key or something that can be changed and put into cab format? Anyone got any ideas?
Me to
So, we are many!!
I too have been looking for a way to do this for ages.
I too will be watching this thread with interest and hope.
Nick
Wiggz said:
I'd like something small to do this but I have a feeling most people will return with the suggestion "use aebplus to remap"
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No aeblus cannot map the home button as it's hard coded into manila!
bonesy said:
I have the same feeling wiggz, There must be a registry key or something that can be changed and put into cab format? Anyone got any ideas?
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so as the home button is coded into manila it mean's one has to play with the manila files and remap to start menu all that would mean is to change some scripts!!
bottomline Home button in theory can be mapped to the start menu!! so it's plausible!!!
i'm going to watch this thread as well --- i've been looking for this since I got hold of my HD. I've already remapped the "back" button to S2U2 via AEB since you are correct, essentially the home, back, and end buttons all work very similarly.
Hoping that someone posts a solution to this!
i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!
i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!
Thanks,but could give more informations to remap keys,please ? The list is empty when i launch the application ...
Same here. I was so happy when I found this thread..
When I tried installing that, it did not work... Maybe it was my ROM.
There are REG keys that remap home in certain cituations, i.e. manilla but I have yet to find a way to get the reg key to do anything else.
The new keypad.dll maps it to a normal vk_lwin, so you can remap it as you like.
Unfortunately I have not yet seen it an any ROM.
gfreek said:
No aeblus cannot map the home button as it's hard coded into manila!
so as the home button is coded into manila it mean's one has to play with the manila files and remap to start menu all that would mean is to change some scripts!!
bottomline Home button in theory can be mapped to the start menu!! so it's plausible!!!
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Ok I take this back if I can get the tool given by jdmsleepr to work!!
jdmsleepr said:
i have the solution...install this program and you can change all the hard keys to do almost any function...i have mine set up to do the exact same thing that you want it to do!!
cheers!!
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Many thanks for this jdmsleepr you sure will make many hd owners very happy if this tool actually works!!
However I have installed this and configured the buttons to my liking but it's not working! upon start up I get error "SMartTouch service is not found" so have I missed something? can you please give us more details on how one configures this tool of yours?
gfreek said:
Ok I take this back if I can get the tool given by jdmsleepr to work!!
Many thanks for this jdmsleepr you sure will make many hd owners very happy if this tool actually works!!
However I have installed this and configured the buttons to my liking but it's not working! upon start up I get error "SMartTouch service is not found" so have I missed something? can you please give us more details on how one configures this tool of yours?
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It is for Diamond and the author says here post 10 "For the touch HD, maybe you should download HTCAPI.DLL somewhere, put it in /Windows and try again". Haven't read the whole thread though so not sure if this is what the problem is.
i know its a little confusing to get it started...so heres what you do...install cab, go to program files\dredsensor and click on dredsensor.exe and a config.ini will appear...now close out whatever app you are using to view files...and open dredsensor...now you will see default under name...tap default and then click menu, then edit...change type to launcher...then go to click and tap the gray box next to the home key...go to events and chose Misc:Start, hit select, hit ok to comfirm, change whatever others you want to...then hit save, then hit ok to confirm...then hit exit...then you should be good to go...hope this helps!!
custardo01 said:
It is for Diamond and the author says here post 10 "For the touch HD, maybe you should download HTCAPI.DLL somewhere, put it in /Windows and try again". Haven't read the whole thread though so not sure if this is what the problem is.
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Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
Marcdu81 said:
Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
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can i know what r the dependencies .. i mean what files r needed for the four buttons to run as i use kitchen... i need to knw ...thanks
not working for me,installed app then fix,selected type:hardkeysimul,set the home to start,tried it and all I get is an error popup which stays onscreen all the time even after soft reset,had to do a hard reset. Any help from you who got this thing working?
Marcdu81 said:
Hello,my opinion : if you post something in blackstone thread it's normally compatible with this pda , no ?
Edit : i build this cab for our HD and now it works ! Don't forget to do a soft reset .
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Thanks! just did this as per your instruction but still no joy!! still get the same error message on start up "SMartTouch service is not found"

Tilt 2: re-routing PTT button to camera

Hello everyone,
so the new AT&T tilt 2 has a PTT button that I for one (and many would agree) do not use. What I would instead find more useful is a hardware camera button, hence my inquiry. If any developers are willing and able, might it be possible to make a cab file or registry tweek to reroute the ptt button to instead activate the camera? Would anyone else care to have thIs feature? I would be willing to donate.
Thanks
sakshaug007 said:
Hello everyone,
so the new AT&T tilt 2 has a PTT button that I for one (and many would agree) do not use. What I would instead find more useful is a hardware camera button, hence my inquiry. If any developers are willing and able, might it be possible to make a cab file or registry tweek to reroute the ptt button to instead activate the camera? Would anyone else care to have thIs feature? I would be willing to donate.
Thanks
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Already done. Use THIS
Well I'm an idiot, "search before you type" thank you though
also if you are still using the stock rom it actually allows you to reassign the ptt button to another function. for custom roms i would go with that kb controller to get the job done
You can reassign it easily in the stock ROM.
Just go to SETTINGS > Personal > Buttons
Choose PTT button and reassign to Camera
Very easy to do!
I've been able to map the camera program to my PPT button via AE Button Plus but is there any way to actually take a picture with the PPT button?

AT&T Tilt2 Bloatware

AT&T, in their typical way, pre-loaded the Tilt2 with tons of garbage bloatware. Free RAM is patheticly low, as is the roughly 100MB of storage space....
Is it possible to go about deleting stuff thats pre-installed, or is that going to require flashing a custom ROM?
Are there any ROM's available yet which keep all the critical components but remove all the garbage stuff so a user can choose to reinstall only what he wants via cab?
I sympathize with you on that. I couldn't take not being able to have more than 2 programs open without the task manager killing them. I ended up flashing to the latest NRG rom. The 2 tab opera limit was insane too.
I must say that the frustrations with doing this now include some keyboard functionality lost and the loss of the good ATT software. For instance, I can't download the ATT WiFi Hotspot software because I lost my ATT Media Mall.
Are you by chance able to post your opera proxy settings. I can try and grab the cab once I have these settings and share it with the forum.
Easiest way is to find opera.config or opera.ini and see if the settings are in there and copy to the forum. Also found if you type in opera:config in your address bar and look under proxy.
Got these settings from a FUZE forum post:
[Proxy]
Use Proxy On Local Names Check=1
HTTP Server=wireless.cingular.com
HTTPS server=wireless.cingular.com
Use HTTP=1
Use HTTPS=1
Enable HTTP 1.1 for proxy=1
Seems to have done the trick. I'll upload the ATT Wifi Cab tonight when I'm home.
Yea, I've also gone to the NRG ROM.... SO MUCH faster and so much more free RAM & ROM its insane.
its a real shame ATT loads so much junk on the phone. I know all carriers love to do that, but it just seems like the Tilt2 is particularly polluted with crapware.
Anyhow, now I'm happy...
I sure miss AT&T
Just got my TP2 a few days ago and loaded the NRG Photon rom yesterday... Soo much faster than the AT&T rom... I did forget about the AT&T Wifi software though... There anyway to get that software back? Anyone have the cabs? Just fyi, there's an AT&T Keyboard fix cab out there now, just doesn't map the OK button...
rkub said:
Just got my TP2 a few days ago and loaded the NRG Photon rom yesterday... Soo much faster than the AT&T rom... I did forget about the AT&T Wifi software though... There anyway to get that software back? Anyone have the cabs? Just fyi, there's an AT&T Keyboard fix cab out there now, just doesn't map the OK button...
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had to jump through some hoops to get it downloaded, I attached the cab in this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4748989&postcount=6
I have installed it, but haven't actually tried it out yet at a hotspot.
For you folks that installed the NRG rom: Did you find a keyboard .cab for the Tilt2 that is 100%?
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
I will be getting Tilt 2 & selling in Dec 1st week
Anyone who Dont want to Pay Full price can buy from me for Cheaper
Cos I will be buying HD 2
If anyone Interested
rajuabju said:
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
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I also used Keybaord Config to remap thoses buttons but I remapped ok to ctrl so I could do copy and paste.
areilly said:
had to jump through some hoops to get it downloaded, I attached the cab in this post;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4748989&postcount=6
I have installed it, but haven't actually tried it out yet at a hotspot.
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Thanks for the cab areilly, haven't been able to try it out yet, but will let you know if it works when I do...
ilordvader said:
I will be getting Tilt 2 & selling in Dec 1st week
Anyone who Dont want to Pay Full price can buy from me for Cheaper
Cos I will be buying HD 2
If anyone Interested
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How much cheaper?
rajuabju said:
The existing keyboard cab fixes 98% of the issue.
The two buttons that dont map correctly are
1) OK button on the keyboard
2) PTT buton (below the volume on the side)
Both can be fixed by using Keyboard Config controller (do a search). I've been able to remap the PPT button, just waiting on someone to explain what to map the OK button to.
So ya, its a 2-step process but it can be 100% correctly functioning with the NRG or any other custom rom
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I remember reading somewhere else that people were mapping the OK button to some command like "Go Back" which some felt was the closest approximation to the OK button. As for the PTT button, a lot of people (including myself on the stock ROM) have mapped to the camera.
pinoymutt said:
I remember reading somewhere else that people were mapping the OK button to some command like "Go Back" which some felt was the closest approximation to the OK button. As for the PTT button, a lot of people (including myself on the stock ROM) have mapped to the camera.
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I mapped my PTT to screen rotate.
I'm finding that even with the latest cab, you still have to remap your bottom row function shortcuts. However, the biggest bother is that on the unlock screen and certain other applications, the top row is still read as the default TP2 number row. Perhaps we're still missing some settings.
thedon0369 said:
I mapped my PTT to screen rotate.
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I did this myself at one point, but then had to do a hard reset. Now I don't have screen rotation as an option in the Settings -> Personal -> Buttons dialog, and I can't remember what I might have done to enable it. Help! (please)
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OK, either I'm blind or I did something, 'cause now the option is there.
i found a solution for the "ok" key..
you map the "ok" key first for anything on the Keyboard control/config program, update config, then uncheck the box and update again...
THEN, download AEB button Plus and install that, press add new key, press the ok key, and map that to "ok/close"... soft reset, and you're good to go, just dont mess with "ok" button on keyboard control program and you're good to go...
i also mapped long press on the "ok" key to open notes,
okay, folks, we're in business. a very kind soul named pyromosh has written software named Crud Scraper - automatic uninstaller. it does all the work for you. here's the link:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
ruxp1n said:
okay, folks, we're in business. a very kind soul named pyromosh has written software named Crud Scraper - automatic uninstaller. it does all the work for you. here's the link:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
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Yes Crud scraper works very good
here is the active link forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
and here is a page of all the Crapware and what it does how big and how to manaully remove it - http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software

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