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Just been given a Vodafone u.k 1605(hermes),the digitiser was trashed so ive soldered in a new one.I would love to install Black 2.5 for T-moblie u.k which is my sim network.Do i just install this to the phone or do i have to take any other action first?The phone is unlocked.
Sorry,i imagine this has been asked many times before.I have seen mention of Hard spl's and other thing a ma jigs lol.
Many thanks Tony
You really have a lot of reading to do. So much that we cannot post it all here. It has taken an entire forum for all of the information. You need to start here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Hermes
Get familiar with what you can do. First thing you are going to want to do is update the boot loader so you don't brick your device. Read here for more information:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_HardSPL
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Just been given a Vodafone u.k 1605(hermes),the digitiser was trashed so ive soldered in a new one.I would love to install Black 2.5 for T-moblie u.k which is my sim network.Do i just install this to the phone or do i have to take any other action first?The phone is unlocked.
Sorry,i imagine this has been asked many times before.I have seen mention of Hard spl's and other thing a ma jigs lol.
Many thanks Tony
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Do not "just install" ... ideally read the wiki first, and then follow instructions on Mrvanx's Guide. Upgrading is pretty painless and easy ... and the guide should keep you on track.
A ha ,i knew there would be more to it than that,not sure what a wiki is lol but looks like im gonna find out.
If someone could just give me a list of things to do before hand ill do the appropriate reading
i.e 1 upgrade the boot loader etc etc ,please dont go into detail a mere shopping list will do.
,thanks for the links by the way.
Best wishes tony
maxoutput said:
A ha ,i knew there would be more to it than that,not sure what a wiki is lol but looks like im gonna find out.
If someone could just give me a list of things to do before hand ill do the appropriate reading
i.e 1 upgrade the boot loader etc etc ,please dont go into detail a mere shopping list will do.
,thanks for the links by the way.
Best wishes tony
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If you follow the advice in link #3 above you wont go wrong.
The site referred to gives you all the knowledge and confidence to do the job.
Trust me I learnt the same way, by reading threads.
good luck!
Sorry peeps,just reading the guide above.I typed before i looked,hopefully all will become clear....ish lol
maxoutput said:
A ha ,i knew there would be more to it than that,not sure what a wiki is lol but looks like im gonna find out.
If someone could just give me a list of things to do before hand ill do the appropriate reading
i.e 1 upgrade the boot loader etc etc ,please dont go into detail a mere shopping list will do.
,thanks for the links by the way.
Best wishes tony
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Here is the list you wanted:
Read the wiki
Read the installation guides.
Read the threads concerning the threads on available roms.
Understand what you have read.
Flash your phone.
Here you go... step by step list of everything you need to do to upgrade to the Black 3.0:
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=45&Itemid=26
Just about to hard spl and reported bat below 50% so have to wait now for it to charge a little lol.Just tried to download black 3.0 and the link seems to be down,i have black 2.5 is that a good one to flash?
Thanks for everyones help thus far by the way.
maxoutput said:
Just about to hard spl and reported bat below 50% so have to wait now for it to charge a little lol.Just tried to download black 3.0 and the link seems to be down,i have black 2.5 is that a good one to flash?
Thanks for everyones help thus far by the way.
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My subjective pick is Black 3.01 ...
Remember to go "Hard SPL" first, and that you need to upgrade your radio seperately.
Right just updated the Hard splv7 and my radio to 1.41.00.10,ive also flashed with black 3.0. Now i cant seem to get a wireless link to work or turn on my bluetooth?
Also does this mean i can flash any cooked rom?
Many thanks Tony
Update: it just needed a reboot and all was well.
Getting back to the above question-can i flash with any coocked rom now?
Thanks for all your help.Tony
maxoutput said:
Update: it just needed a reboot and all was well.
Getting back to the above question-can i flash with any coocked rom now?
Thanks for all your help.Tony
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generally speaking, yes.... but be sure you are flashing OS only (unless you want to upgrade your radio too). Most folks are putting out OS only upgrades now, but some replace the radio. once you are hard spl and no longer a flashing virgin, it becomes second nature.
Thanks for everyones help,all sorted,nice one!
Wow what a refreshing read. A noob explaining himself and asking clear questions and members helping him out in an open and non-judgemental way...
Well done everyone!
...and no flames...
Kudos go to MrVanx for those incredible guides.
Yep superb guides and a very noob friendly thread,thanks again peeps.Flashed to a couple of different roms today to check them out.
hello, i am kinda new to this scene, but i mean no harm
I don't know everything but am eager to learn.
so i gonna ask some newbee questions and maybe i didn't read everything but hell, there is no harm asking
i just bought the diamond (in the dutch language, i've seen a couple more dutch ppl so if there is some one that knows alot, please add me @ msn : Deleted for Users Privacy You don't know Which Creep will add you, Use the Safe PM Method)
now i have some questions
- how can i extract my current rom? and can i use that extracted rom as a backup when i accidentily flash the wrong rom, or just want to have it back to the old way
- what is hard spl, i know it has something to do with the signing of other roms than the original rom, what are the dangers about flashing the spl, can it do any harm to my diamond? and can i go back to the original settings (and also, how about warranty?)
- before i had the Diamond, i had the Herald (P4350) and i bricked it twice, can this also happen with the diamond? or isn't that possible couze the SPL can be flashed (it wasn't possible with my p4350, thats why it was bricked )
i ask this questions becouse i want to get the maximum from my diamond, but i also have a contract on my provider and can't get a new phone in 2 years, don't want to waste my diamond on a stupid accident
if you think i am a noob, i am. but don't reply if you don't have any thing intresting to tell.
please don't tell me to use the search, becouse there are verry much topics and i can't get an hold of it, that's why i am asking it here.
Thank you verry much,
regards,
Sam
Im not ENORMOUSLY qualified to answer the SPL questions in depth but the General purpose of using HardSPL is that your device is freed up to use ANY ROM you wish (it has to be a diamond rom though). Hence your device is not limited to ROMs by your carrier:
Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
By adding the signing of ROMS and radios etc...this has removed the possibility of ROMs being flashed which are known to brick devices, wether it is intentional or just an accident by a ROM chef. Only allowing signed images to be flashed makes it alot safer for the majority of users.
Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.
chribruu said:
Just a note: I would not advise to post your e-mail in a public forum, unless you dig spam.
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yeah i know, but hell, it's only my gmail accout. got a lots of those
Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
Anyway these questions are the same resting on my shoulders .... sadly my thread got closed.
All we want to know is how we .... backup the ROM before flashing and restoring it.
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
SPL (Secondary Program Loader) ... this will boot the actual OS.
ROM ... this is the part where WM61 etc all is?
Ext_ROM ... this is the part where HTC has put all its customizations like TF3D?
So when we use this HardSPL, we only flash the SPL ... ROM stays intact? And how do we make a backup of all this?
Also why is a hard-reset needed if only the SPL is being flashed? It would just startup and boot your ROM, or am I mistaken?
Maybe once Ive gained more knowledge about these nifty phones, I can contribute to the community too like you all do. Maybe I'll just start a "Total noob guide to the HTC Diamond" ... all I need is a start, I want to flash this thing ASAP .... but I first want to get a few simple answers which arent 100% answered by the wiki or forums (mainly how to backup ROM, radio etc etc etc BEFORE flashing).
Meh my posts tend to get longer than expected on new forums
@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.
sfjuocekr said:
Maybe that is his allowed to have spam address
I figured the phone consists of the following:
IPL (Initial Program Loader) ... this is like a BIOS for your phone.
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no IPL for diamond, the radio bootloader does that job.
the rest was said by pof very nicely
btw note: when you try to apply shift/kaiser commands to dump the rom, make sure you change the sizes in the commands, to match the pdocread -l info.
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Originally if you bought a Tmobile handset it is usually CID locked to only allow tmobile ROMS, with HArdSPL it allows any diamond ROM, so you could use on by HTC...or a cooked ROM found on this forum!
Also HardSPL has had a tradition of safeguarding against some of the types of brick possible, this may be the case with the version for the diamond but id probably let cmonex or olipro comment on that as im not too sure.
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Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...
demonizator said:
Does this mean that HardSPL is not necessary (but advisable) if your device is not CID locked to any carrier but bought directly from HTC?
Apologies for the next noob question...
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HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.
pof said:
@sfjuocekr:
- Diamond does not have an extrom.
- read kaiser/polaris/niki/etc.. (msm7xxx devices) forums and wiki, 95% of what is said there applies for the diamond too. Apply common sense to decide what is device specific or not.
Hope that serves you as a start, for example, to answer your question about rom dumping, compare these two threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382609
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334680
And apply common sense, so you'll se it's the same for diamond.
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This is the reply on which Ive been waiting
As soon as I'm home Ill read more about it and maybe post my finding is a uniform Diamond thread ...
Also the sketch from the layout ... I made up from information I found all over the forums and wiki, I do apply common sense but I still have limited knowhow about how these phones work.
Anyway thanks alot, Ill be trying to backup my phone asap when I arrive home from work (I work for Tele2/Versatel ... dont be scared I wont do any harm )
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HTC devices are still CID locked....to HTC ROMs, no device you can buy is SuperCID afaik.
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Got you...
Seems, after reading while working, these dumps are not the biggest helpers. As in we can't yet use them to rebuild the original ROM? I might have overlooked something, will investigate further this evening after work.
My question now still is, does this also update radio and SPL?
So the HTC Diamond basicly consists of a radio ROM, then the SPL and then goes into HTC ROM with WM61 etc ...?
So upgrading to HardSPL ... doesnt touch your current ROM and allows it to boot into it fine or does it need to be signed? Why is the hardreset needed then?
Anyway Im probably asking the same questions found on other parts of the forum, sorry for that if it annoys people around here. I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
I have alot of coding and hardware experience, which might help the community some day when I gain more knowledge. My age was the homemade EEPROM programmers and big ZIF-sockets business, you probably know what Im aiming for
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I just want to get started with a full backup, that is restorable ... as in that I can restore my phone to factory defaults ... if needed
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I second that. Is there a way to do a full backup and restore to factory defaults after using hardspl and cooked roms?
SPL: you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have, or you can dump it from the device before HardSPL'ing it. (see one of the previous threads I linked on how to pmemdump the SPL).
Radio:you can take it from an official rom (nbhextract), if its the same version that you have.
OS: Search how to reconstruct a dumped ROM, again, apply common sense
sfjuocekr said:
Why is the hardreset needed then?
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that's just standard RUU procedure. you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.
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you can hack the RUU exe to not send task 28 to cause the SPL to hard reset.
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I guess that you will do that soon too, right?
Perfect job you guys!!!
Hello all,
I've done some searching around and am getting a little bewildered with what seems like contradictory advice/instructions so can someone please give me a shove in the right direction.......
I have a orange UK kaiser and want to flash it with the full featured rom which will allow the use of touch flo as it was designed. I dont know why orange crippled the device in the first place but hey ho.
I've noticed some ROM's floating about that also add messenger as well as other apps, this is all good but I have no idea on the process of flashing the device, and with some of the posts I've seen on here about radio's not working etc after flashing I thought I better just check with someone who does know.
So i just need maybe a link to a definitive thread/post on flashing this particular phone along with the tools needed.
Here's the details I get when booting the phone up.
R: 1.27.14.32
G: 22.45.88.07h
D: 1.81.00.00
Thanks in advance
Go to kaiser rom development and read the stickies and gweni
Rory
Cheers mate, will do
Hi everyone,
I'm very new to the world of cooking or flashing roms etc. I appreciate this will be quite boring to most of you, but I was hoping someone could help me understand the basics. I'm from the UK and have just brought a HTC Touch Diamond on Orange network which I am very happy with. I am however keen on the idea of trying a new, potentially faster ROM. I currently have 1.37.405.1WWE. I have read a lot of good things about Manila and some others on here (elite) but I'm unsure whether to try one or not. My first question is how hard or easy is it to install a new ROM and what could go wrong? Could a newbie potentially ruin my new phone? Can I re-install the old ROM if I don't like the new one? I have read a lot about people doing manual changes etc , but I don't know any coding. Do I need to? I have searched the forum, but couldn't find any answers to such basic questions. Please could someone help me?!?!?
Thanks
It is not very hard to flash your phone with the ROM of your choice and usually it's quite safe as long as you follow the recommended procedure. Installing HardSPL is the first step which will ensure that a cooked ROM will not "brick" your phone. This is flashed as per the normal flashing procedure. Following this, you can choose the ROM you fancy ( I use Bepe's and I am very happy with it) and flash, again using the same procedure. The cooked ROMS are much faster than the stock ROM and usually very stable. Bepe produces 2 version of his ROM, Basic and Premium, whose major difference is that Basic does not include TF3D. Finally you can also flash a Radio ROM if for whatever reason you are not happy with the connectivity features and stability provided by your current ROM.
No coding required to do any of the above.
there is a nice guide here which shows you step by step how to flash a ROM:
http://modmydiamond.info/
direct link to upgrading ROM:
http://modmydiamond.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=12&Itemid=26
I reckon the "flashing" part of your question has been answered.
Regarding the "cooking" part, what can I say... You won't learn till you do it yourself.
There are a few excellent guides out there (you can start with the xda-dev wiki)
And remember - search is your best friend. Both questions could have been answered if you'd have searched the forum.
hallo there,
im new here, and i just bought a new Diamond with original rom from date may 2008.
TOughFLO3D runs really slow on it, so a friend of mine said u can upgrade ur rom. After googling, i landed on this website with a lot of roms, so which one do i have to pick up. And what do i have to do before i upgrade.
greets
Complete steps A,B and C of this sticky
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211
Furthermore the choice of rom is your personal taste.
Read the threads and install a few and you will get a feeling with the different roms.
Have fun and start enjoying your diamond for real!
come on, spend some time and read, together with search is really good...
it's not so difficult
i was already looking for it, which HARD spl do i need?
=S
Mmm...
I really doubt you will have a REAL answer...anyhow: GOOD LUCK!
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Ok, you was lucky...I'll give you the "secret" answer:
TRY YOURSELF ALL ROMS YOU FIND INTERESTING...THEN CHOOSE!!!
another Q, wad HARDSPL do i need,,
and wad will a rom do? will my HTC TOughflow3d be erased? xD
hmm, 10min between your 1st and 2nd post
KaKiT said:
another Q, wad HARDSPL do i need,,
and wad will a rom do? will my HTC TOughflow3d be erased? xD
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...why don't you read through the threads???
HardSLP: In ever ROM Announcment the cooker also mentions a few words about the HardSLP.
What does a rom do?
You can compare it with a complete new-installation an a pc.
Will this and that be removed?
For Sure, everything which is not on the internal storage will be erased!
And now: READ the threads!
I'd be interested in trying out this HTC Toughflow...
EazyDude said:
I'd be interested in trying out this HTC Toughflow...
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