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New to all this custom rom stuff whats the best 8525 WM6 rom to use?

currently i have the official ATT WM6 rom installed and idk if its just me or not but it seems slow as hell roughly the same speed that my old wing was and the 8525 is double the speed
can i just install a custom rom ontop of the att one or how does this all work exactly? I already cid and sim unlocked my 8525
In your guys opinion whats the best 8525 rom to use? thanks for your time and help

You can check the ROM benchmarks thread (link is in my signature). Safe bets are Schap's, TNT, VP3G, these guys were around for long time - if you are more adventurous soul you can try other ROMs as well. Do not be lazy and search about these ROMs advantages/disadvantages in their threads. It will pay off (my own experience). Welcome to Hermes forum!

I'll second KarhU's welcome...
I'll also second his choice of Roms....
I'll also second his advice not to be lazy.....
Which Rom works for one person doesn't always work for someone else... VP3G's Roms are great, but not so good for me - my choice is Schaps - before his (her?) great Roms I loved the Black Roms which were a toss up with Custel's... before that I waited up all night for Kyphur's creations... See the pattern? The only way to get the best Rom for you is to try them.
And remember - the latest isn't always the best so try some earlier roms, read the threads and apply the patches/fixes - most recent Roms are good (I have a few more to try such as TNT etc)
BUT no one will tell you which is best for you - it's kind of like choosing a woman - right speed, wrong colour

where can i find all of these roms exactly?

SamuelAdams said:
where can i find all of these roms exactly?
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They are all right in front of your very eyes!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=355

I provide links to many Hermes WM6 ROMs in my Benchmark thread. Link is in my signature.

Flash O2 XDA Diamond? To Remove Branded Rom?

Hi guys ... I will probably be getting a O2 XDA Diamond...
The O2 Diamond has a blue branded Touchflow Gui...
Will there be anyway to install the Original HTC software on it so i have the nice Black Menu?

yep you have to install a hardspl, either olipro's [which i think is unreleased] or the one made by the diamond project team.
then you can flash a new rom.
however, check your rom version in settings->system->device information
if it reads 1.34.831.1
it means you have a new spl that prevents you from flashing hardspl until the experts here create a work-around.
i hope this helps
Rory

On a related note, I was considering getting the O2 XDA Diamond but putting the black TouchFLO 3D on it. However, I've now decided to get a normal HTC Touch Diamond, because I'm lazy and I don't want to flash a new ROM for a number of reasons.

Dark Fire said:
On a related note, I was considering getting the O2 XDA Diamond but putting the black TouchFLO 3D on it. However, I've now decided to get a normal HTC Touch Diamond, because I'm lazy and I don't want to flash a new ROM for a number of reasons.
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is that even related?
no, didnt even ask about the device, or comment on it

rorydaredkign said:
yep you have to install a hardspl, either olipro's [which i think is unreleased] or the one made by the diamond project team.
then you can flash a new rom.
however, check your rom version in settings->system->device information
if it reads 1.34.831.1
it means you have a new spl that prevents you from flashing hardspl until the experts here create a work-around.
i hope this helps
Rory
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ALL Diamonds ship with 1.34.831.1 but "we" (Olipro) is working out a way to flash it....

rorydaredkign said:
is that even related?
no, didnt even ask about the device, or comment on it
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It was a related comment. I informed others of a decision I made, to avoid this problem - a decision which will save time and effort.
You always have to attack...

I dont think ill be getting the htc modell becaus i would have to pay much more...
Because of the o2 contract that i have in august i can re new the contract an will get a o2 xda for about 100 euro... so i think ill be sticking to this modell..
Please keep this thread up 2 date guys... Good work so far...

Well I´m pretty new to this. Im gonna get a XDA Diamond too within these weeks. But as mentioned the blue TouchFlow theme from O2 is really ugly in my opinion. So maybe someone can explain me how it is possible to change the ROM to get the original black theme from HTC.
What is necessary for that to work, what changes would that bring to my system (all programs lost?) and what dangers come along with that?
I appreciate your answers. Thanks.

rorydaredkign said:
is that even related?
no, didnt even ask about the device, or comment on it
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YeaH! you're right!:D

horstborsch said:
Well I´m pretty new to this. Im gonna get a XDA Diamond too within these weeks. But as mentioned the blue TouchFlow theme from O2 is really ugly in my opinion. So maybe someone can explain me how it is possible to change the ROM to get the original black theme from HTC.
What is necessary for that to work, what changes would that bring to my system (all programs lost?) and what dangers come along with that?
I appreciate your answers. Thanks.
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c´mon guys, please give me some information on this.

Ok .
First of all you can take one of two options.
1) Hard SPL the device and flash a new ROM that someone has mirrored here.
Look here for Hard SPL ( Read carefully as not all Diamonds can be Hard SPl'd as yet)
HardSPL Here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395640
ROM is here -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394985
Hard SPL your device as per the Instructions then run the ROM update that you would have downloaded above . Job Done.
2) Wait until someone removes the 3G Interface from a Diamond (HTC Maila) and then apply that cab to replace your blue one.
Hope this helps
If you read the very first thread in this forum then you would have had an idea on what you was asking.

Thank you very much for your answer. So just to get me right. If i need a german ROM, is there a chance, as far as the new ROM version (probably comming with the german xda) is HardSPL useable, to flash another german HTC ROM on to it (if someone is providing it)?
And the last question, do i loose all my installed or preinstalled apps on my device, such as TOMTOM when i flash a new (other) ROM?

Thank you very much for your answer. So just to get me right. If i need a german ROM, is there a chance, as far as the new ROM version (probably comming with the german xda) is HardSPL useable, to flash another german HTC ROM on to it (if someone is providing it)?
If its an O2 ROM then as you have an O2 device you may not need to Hard SPL but not sure on that one.
As long as you Hard SPL the device then you will be able to flash any ROM that turns up on this forum on your device. Please read the post I pointed out to you, as one of the SPL's shipping on the Diamond will not work and you may brick your device
And the last question, do i loose all my installed or preinstalled apps on my device, such as TOMTOM when i flash a new (other) ROM?
When you flash a device it will set it back to a ROM only . EG all the apps etc you have installed will be gone. TomTom if available on the device ROM will be on it as well (Although I thought O2 pefered Copilot) . If not have a look around the Forums and find a suitable TomTom cab for the device.
Again if you spend some time reading some of the threads on here and within other devices you will start to understand more .

Ok guys so hold us up to date on this.... Im getting my O2 phone in 2 weeks and I think I wont like the blue TF3D.

Ok guys... so is there any new information on getting the branded colour touchflow 3d to the orignial black one? Someone here mentioned doing it without any hardspl stuff via a CAB file or something....
ANy news on this?
Thx Busta

Here in germany it's possible to renew your contract through several online shops. When doing so, you can get any device you want. You usually also get a better deal than renewing through O2. Try if this is possible in your country and get a HTC device!
The only advantage of getting an O2 device is, that you get a refurbished device sent to you in case of a waranty return and don't have to send it in for repair. (At least that's my experience with the hermes aka. XDA Trion I had)

Dark Fire said:
On a related note, I was considering getting the O2 XDA Diamond but putting the black TouchFLO 3D on it. However, I've now decided to get a normal HTC Touch Diamond, because I'm lazy and I don't want to flash a new ROM for a number of reasons.
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Whats the point of getting a HTC Touch Diamond then? The "fun" begins with cooked ROM flashing and since the Touch Diamond seems to be more and more popular, some very nice ROMs will be out in the near future. Can't wait to see where this is going...

horstborsch said:
Thank you very much for your answer. So just to get me right. If i need a german ROM, is there a chance, as far as the new ROM version (probably comming with the german xda) is HardSPL useable, to flash another german HTC ROM on to it (if someone is providing it)?
And the last question, do i loose all my installed or preinstalled apps on my device, such as TOMTOM when i flash a new (other) ROM?
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Flashing to another ROM with HArdsSPL wipes out all in your RAM and ROM memory. it over writes al registries.
Also TomTom. A back-up is not advisable as it will not run, or cause bigger problems.

Black TouchFlo 3D Cab
for all the guys, they would like to remove the blue ugly O2 TouchFlo 3D skin, without flashing the Diamond! ;-)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2360330&postcount=240

Read and search mate !
I did as i'm a total noob and still managed to install hardspl and the new rom !
Its all here to be found

How To Use a Custom Rom

I am new to this so sorry if I sound like an idiot
Also this has probably been posted a hundred times but I couldnt find a clear step by step from beginning to end for newbies.
So maybe this can be a topic for the rest
How do I go about removing the rom I have on it now and adding a custom one
I have a Bell HTC Vogue
Someone said update the radio(how do I do this and where do I get it)
and what do I do after that?
Thanks and sorry again in advance

Real question is WHAT do you want to do with the phone ..
Currently there are 6.1 custom ROMs that are similar to original but function better
Then there are 6.1 ROMs with Touchflo2D AKA Manilla on them so they function like a Vogue but look like a Diamond or Touch Pro
Then there are the newest ROMs out there based on WinMO 6.5, completely new interface and functionality
but the idea is the same as far as step by step and there are LOTS of directions out there and search and patience can be your friend
1 - know what you want, look about and read about the different ROMs
- that is up to you do do but NFSFAN has both 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs going currently and worth a look
6.1 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432487
6.5 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432487&page=238
2 - Know your radio version, this can be done by restarting your phone and at the bottom reading the "R" number should be something at least 3.42.30 (higher is OK but not necessarily needed - search for Bell Radio for links for more info)
3 - read this thread http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
that is the most comprehensive thread on unhlocking a phone, 2.31 Coke Unlocker is what you'll need, but first READ READ and then READ more it is very important you understand everything that can occur
4 - have your original ROM handy in case something goes wrong you can flash back to original and start over
5 - unlock phone
update radio
flash ROM of choice
Hard reset to reflash ROM (just a precautionary step seems to eliminate issues before they can happen)
Wipe hands on pants and dance away
Detroit Doug

ok I have 3.42.50 so where would I find this "Radio"

Detroit_Doug, big thanks I downloaded the unlocked
followed the onscreen instructions, put nsf's 6.5 on here and then hard reset it, everything works great
and are you actually in detroit?
any idea where I can find a identical diamond theme for this 6.5 rom?

PermaFried said:
Detroit_Doug, big thanks I downloaded the unlocked
followed the onscreen instructions, put nsf's 6.5 on here and then hard reset it, everything works great
and are you actually in detroit?
any idea where I can find a identical diamond theme for this 6.5 rom?
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Excellant, welcome to the addiction MUHAHAHAHAHA
I was in Detroit, moved to Las Vegas a couple years ago and its my usual nick on lots of sites so I keep it (its a poker nick I use as well)
As for themes for WinMO 6.5, they dont exist yet, 6.5 is a pre-release software and there is intention of themes being released when final comes out, until then the only changable items I know of on 6.5 are colors (look for CHome Color) and items on the main screen.
and as for a diamond theme, not yet, but I just read NFSFAN is releasing his 6.5 v5 today that will have M2D and Titanium included so you can change back and forth
Detroit Doug

Help me Regarding themes -

Am the New User of Windows Mobile Phone, this was my First time when i have some Windiown Mobile Phone.
Previously am Using Nokia.
So am little bit cinfused. Form where to Download themes for my HTC touch HD
i saw so many thread which has themes but don,t know which One Suite to mt HD ROM.
I saw some Manila theme, Tf3d theme. Don,t know what is manil and which ver i have.
So please help to find some themes for my Phone.
My Phone version and ROM is mention in my Signature

Help me Guys

Vatumb said:
Am the New User of Windows Mobile Phone, this was my First time when i have some Windiown Mobile Phone.
Previously am Using Nokia.
So am little bit cinfused. Form where to Download themes for my HTC touch HD
i saw so many thread which has themes but don,t know which One Suite to mt HD ROM.
I saw some Manila theme, Tf3d theme. Don,t know what is manil and which ver i have.
So please help to find some themes for my Phone.
My Phone version and ROM is mention in my Signature
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The screen you see with the tabs etc is TF3D it depends on what ROM your on you can do search in XDA or Google to learn more then you can research Themes search search it is your friend

ozmoran said:
The screen you see with the tabs etc is TF3D it depends on what ROM your on you can do search in XDA or Google to learn more then you can research Themes search search it is your friend
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Thanks for the reply..
I searhed about the themes and try them on my phone, but none of them working.
Son,t know which manila version i have
HTC Touch HD
ROM Ver. : 1.18.707.3 (23358) WWE
ROM Date: 12/10/08
Radio Ver.: 1.09.25.14

Files inside TF3D is called or named, Manila, so you need to know what version of TF3D you are using. Go to your Settings Tab, then About and you can see what version of TF3D you are using.

knight900 said:
Files inside TF3D is called or named, Manila, so you need to know what version of TF3D you are using. Go to your Settings Tab, then About and you can see what version of TF3D you are using.
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It shows Touchflow version 3.0
so which themes are avalable for this phone
kindly provide some links

Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum.

Digital Outcast said:
Moved to Themes, Applications and Software forum.
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Thanks For Moving the Thread

Vatumb said:
Thanks For Moving the Thread
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Help Me guys

Hey,
I definitely understand your confusion. I'm absolutely no newcomer to Windows Mobile, but I was pretty baffled when I arrived here after a few years gone.
Let's see if I help you somewhat...
Vatumb said:
So am little bit cinfused. Form where to Download themes for my HTC touch HD
i saw so many thread which has themes but don,t know which One Suite to mt HD ROM.
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You're the right place now - this forum where your thread here has been moved to, is the place for HTC Touch HD.
Vatumb said:
I saw some Manila theme, Tf3d theme. Don,t know what is manil and which ver i have.
So please help to find some themes for my Phone.
My Phone version and ROM is mention in my Signature
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You propably use Manila v2.0, which means that themes for Manila v2.1 and v3, are not compatible with your device.
BUT!
First off, you should take a look at giving your phone a new ROM.
The kitchen cooks for TouchHD here on xda, are FABOLOUS! Right now, your Touch HD is slow as hell. Try and swipe the menus. Notice the lags. Enter the application pane. Swipe up and down. See?
The kitchen cooked ROMs in here, replaces the one you have - and gives you up to 20x faster performance (no kidding, and no exhaggeration).
I myself, use Laurentius26 v3.55 (www.laurentius26.net -- you have to become member of his website to download the rom, but it's all free, so don't worry).
Most people like Dutty's ROMs also - they're great too!
No matter what you choose, I promise you'll feel that your Touch HD has transformed into a speed monster. Especially in the menus!
Oh yeah - and as a side dish, you get the newest version of Manila and TouchFlo3D. Personally, I think that the version in the Laurantius26-ROM that I use, is so super-duper, that I don't want to spend time looking for other themes. I have thought of designing/programming a completely new GUI myself, but I gave up, as I don't have Microsoft Visual Studio.
But you have the oppertunity if you patch with a new ROM. I highly recommend you do that first thing.

jakobdam said:
Hey,
I definitely understand your confusion. I'm absolutely no newcomer to Windows Mobile, but I was pretty baffled when I arrived here after a few years gone.
Let's see if I help you somewhat...
You're the right place now - this forum where your thread here has been moved to, is the place for HTC Touch HD.
You propably use Manila v2.0, which means that themes for Manila v2.1 and v3, are not compatible with your device.
BUT!
First off, you should take a look at giving your phone a new ROM.
The kitchen cooks for TouchHD here on xda, are FABOLOUS! Right now, your Touch HD is slow as hell. Try and swipe the menus. Notice the lags. Enter the application pane. Swipe up and down. See?
The kitchen cooked ROMs in here, replaces the one you have - and gives you up to 20x faster performance (no kidding, and no exhaggeration).
I myself, use Laurentius26 v3.55 (www.laurentius26.net -- you have to become member of his website to download the rom, but it's all free, so don't worry).
Most people like Dutty's ROMs also - they're great too!
No matter what you choose, I promise you'll feel that your Touch HD has transformed into a speed monster. Especially in the menus!
Oh yeah - and as a side dish, you get the newest version of Manila and TouchFlo3D. Personally, I think that the version in the Laurantius26-ROM that I use, is so super-duper, that I don't want to spend time looking for other themes. I have thought of designing/programming a completely new GUI myself, but I gave up, as I don't have Microsoft Visual Studio.
But you have the oppertunity if you patch with a new ROM. I highly recommend you do that first thing.
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But how to kNow that Which Manila I have.
You said above that i Have Manila 2.0 How to check it
And How to Updated the ROM, but there is not update of ROM in india HTC http://www.htc.com/in/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all

Vatumb said:
But how to kNow that Which Manila I have.
You said above that i Have Manila 2.0 How to check it
And How to Updated the ROM, but there is not update of ROM in india HTC http://www.htc.com/in/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=179&act=sd&cat=all
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Your manila can be found by going to settings tab in TF3D and then scrolling down to 'About'
It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38658.2. The first 2 numbers i.e. 2.1 in this case state which manila you have
There appears to be no official update from HTC for a Indian rom. You can however update to any coooked rom by using either USPL or HSPL. I'd recommend you follow this guide and read up on the wiki. Available cooked roms can be found in this forum.
EDIT
Any further queries regarding rom upgrade should be posted in this thread or thread of rom you decide to flash to.
Try and keep this thread on themes please.

Fallen Spartan said:
Your manila can be found by going to settings tab in TF3D and then scrolling down to 'About'
It should state something like TouchFLO 3D 2.1.38658.2. The first 2 numbers i.e. 2.1 in this case state which manila you have
There appears to be no official update from HTC for a Indian rom. You can however update to any coooked rom by using either USPL or HSPL. I'd recommend you follow this guide and read up on the wiki. Available cooked roms can be found in this forum.
EDIT
Any further queries regarding rom upgrade should be posted in this thread or thread of rom you decide to flash to.
Try and keep this thread on themes please.
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It show the Version Touchflo 3d 1.3.35590.0_1630.38
ANd which ROM is best for the Indian HTC HD, and is the TOuchflow 3d Ver changed after the ROM Upgrade

Vatumb said:
It show the Version Touchflo 3d 1.3.35590.0_1630.38
ANd which ROM is best for the Indian HTC HD, and is the TOuchflow 3d Ver changed after the ROM Upgrade
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Then you don't have manila 2.0 or 2.1.
No one can provide you with the information 'which rom is best' as every rom appeals to different people. Best thing you can do is read each rom thread and make your own conclusion. As a pointer, the most widely used roms generally cooked by the following guys:
Duttythroy, Miri, NRGZ28, Laurentius26 & kwbr.
All of the latest roms generally use manila 2.1 and either wm6.1 or wm6.5 (should say on title of each thread)

Fallen Spartan said:
Then you don't have manila 2.0 or 2.1.
No one can provide you with the information 'which rom is best' as every rom appeals to different people. Best thing you can do is read each rom thread and make your own conclusion. As a pointer, the most widely used roms generally cooked by the following guys:
Duttythroy, Miri, NRGZ28, Laurentius26 & kwbr.
All of the latest roms generally use manila 2.1 and either wm6.1 or wm6.5 (should say on title of each thread)
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Thanks for the Quick Reply.
I want to install this ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
[ROM][WWE][22.07.2009] Miri WM 6.5 23009 :: V 25.0 [ONLINE]
So will you help me how to start.
And after the Upgrade my Phone is Unser Warranty or NOT.
and How can i restore the Orignal ROM after the Upgrade, if i want to do that in future.

For help on flashing the ROM, read the guide in my signature.
For how to restore the stock ROM, read this thread where it says: How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
Also, it will be under warranty IF you restore it before you send it back for warranty purposes. If you send it back with a custom ROM/SPL on it HTC will most likely not warranty it.

Digital Outcast said:
For help on flashing the ROM, read the guide in my signature.
For how to restore the stock ROM, read this thread where it says: How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
Also, it will be under warranty IF you restore it before you send it back for warranty purposes. If you send it back with a custom ROM/SPL on it HTC will most likely not warranty it.
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Ok Suggest me which one to Install
[ROM][WWE][22.07.2009] Miri WM 6.5 23009 :: V 25.0 [ONLINE]
[ROM] [Jul 24] [Dutty's WM6.5 R8 Turbo] [CE OS 5.2.23009] ]CHANGELOG 1-5] [ONLINE]

I won't do that. They are two totally different ROM's with totally different features. You should try them both out and see which you prefer

Digital Outcast said:
I won't do that. They are two totally different ROM's with totally different features. You should try them both out and see which you prefer
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I saw your Dummy Post.
Am not a techie person. So help me how to do that. Which MEthod is Easy

It really doesn't get any clearer/easier than that. That is a step-by-step guide. If you can't follow that I would suggest not flashing your device, or get someone to do it for you.
You should also read up on the Wiki. It will help you out a lot too.

T-Mobile Touch Pro2 stock 6.1 ROM

Is the stock 6.1 ROM available? Is it also possible to downgrade from 6.5 to 6.1? I ask because I just want to try it out, and not be stuck with 6.5 for the rest of the phone's life.

Wrong section
Have a look here, and as long as you have hardspl you can downgrade and upgrade as many time you want
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=490
And don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!

orb3000 said:
Have a look here, and as long as you have hardspl you can downgrade and upgrade as many time you want
And don´t forget to vote for Rhodium!
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I did vote Rhodium. IMO Best phone 2009
I looked, but couldn't find a stock 6.1 ROM for the T-Mobile version.
Thanks for the information though
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Here you can find 6.1 ROM´s
http://thewingster.com/wm61tp2.aspx

Here's how I flashed the stock Rom. You then get the original radio (3.45.25.14) here.