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So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
My suggestion is to try them and stick with the one that most support your needs.
UllSang said:
So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I dont want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
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You say you don't want WM6, so then none of the mentioned ROMS will meet your needs as they are all WM6. This is the WM6 forum. Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306 for discussions about the latest WM5 ROMS.
You say you dont WM6....
but you want a good Remote Desktop client and Good bluetooth support....
both reside in WM6 and not in WM5
As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
UllSang said:
As i edited in my post i made a typo i do want WM6. Sorry for any confusion again.
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I agree with arluckett2002, try some out.
I personally recommend the Elf, because he cooks with the ExtROM, leaving you the ability to remove unwanted apps and is built on LVSW core (very stable). It is sort of a combination between a clean fast & sleek rom, with the added benefits of some apps. But, you can remove them if you want.
Most of the rom's are good now, it is a matter of trial & error and style preference.
There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
UllSang said:
So i have a att 8525 and for the past month or so been reading here and HOFO and 4winmobile and mrvanx about the rom updates. I feel confident in my ability to update but i am really unsure as what some main differences are between all of the many different versions. At first i was sure to go with Black but now after looking LVSW, Faria and ELF. I have read what they offer but i dont really get whats the big differences between them. I notice a big "selling" point is the amount of ram available for use. I DO want WM6, a few things that i need are good BT support, WIFI, 3G/data connection, my Exchange direct push to work, Remote Desktop and easy dialing (like the HTC smart dialer). So do any of these really meet my needs? i know thats a loaded question but i just cant seem to be able to differentiate between them. Thanks for any help that you can give.
Ull
*EDIT* I do want WM6.. it was a typo sorry for the confusion */EDIT*
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SL said:
There is no way you get everything you want in a rom (unless you cook your own). Get the closes one (or a basic one and add the programs you need). In my experience with a Hermes phone, LVSW is the most stable. ELF which uses LVSW is almost as good as LVSW.
I update programs as they become available.
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
Good Question!!!
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I always had this question... If a program is installed while the ROM is being upgraded (it is part of and packaged with the rom), and a new version of the application is available, can we upgrade the application without losing precious storage/program memory? Or will the upgrade disable the "read only" older version and install the new version as if it is a new application?
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My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
is VP3G's version relatively stable?
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
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So, based on your answer, the best rom currently available (at least in relation to memory) should be the Elf, since he installs all programs in ExtROM using CAB files, which can be uninstalled / overwritten etc, without taking up twice the amount of memory in case of a program update. Agree?
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No, not neccesarily. There are several very clean ROMs to choose from, as well, where you can simply add what you want, period. And several only have some limited apps built in, that provide some extra functionality, and will probably not be upgraded, or you can live with the versions that are already installed. The question is best answered by each user and his/her subjective needs and desires.
On top of that, you must think about the quality of support that the cook is willing/able to provide. If you are a newbie, you would probably do best to steer away from the Elf and Black versions, since their authors are somewhat lacking in patience, although I must admit, they are extremely talented with the technology.
You really need to measure it all out from several different angles, and in the long run, only you can decide which is best for you.
-pvs
VP3G v2 rom
I have been running VP3G's v2 hybrid rom for about a week. only issues i had after flashing was i needed the cingular settings cab file to configure everything that i didn't want to manually add myself. i'm still looking for the smart dialer cab that i found on here awhile back but other than that it's got everything you need, it's stable, and very fast. tomtom 6 works great with it as does any of my bluetooth devices. exchange direct push works well though i find that sometimes the phone doesn't sync cahnges back to the exchange server. so far it's the best rom i've tried for wm6. oh yah.. i'm running an ATT 8525 on ATT's network.
Damn talking about bring the thread back to life, haha. I am actually currently running VP3G v2.0.1H also. VP3G has the cingular settings build in, did that not work for you? it worked great for me. It works perfect for all my BT devices and i have no had any issues with the exchange DP. so definitely my favorite rom so far.
pvs said:
My understanding is that the new program will place new copies of it's files over the ones in ROM, thereby sort-of deactivating the ROM-based one, but now taking up twice the amount of space ... and if you uninstall it, you should be left with the old copy.
However, if the uninstall removes registry settings, the ROM-based one might not work anymore. I know I've "overwritten" certain files in the /Windows folder, and when I delete them, the old ROM-based ones are again visible.
Again, this is MY understanding, and I may be wrong. I would LOVE to know the truth from somebody who's a real genius with this stuff. We have soem true geniuses here, so maybe one of them can confirm or deny what I've written here.
-pvs
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It will overwrite the current file, it won't take up more space.
Maybe I'm getting to old for this but seriously how many times a month does this question need to be asked and answered?????
i must be having a bad day.
Does anyone have a stripped 6.5 rom? No Manilla, no Titanium and the least amount of extra apps. Just necessary mods for speed and battery life. I will add the cabs I want.
Does such a thing exist or do I have to learn how to build my own?
Thanks
I believe NagRom is pretty well stripped.
Yeah, NagROM v0.9 is stripped to the bones. You can't get a 6.5 ROM without Titanium though. Just disable it.
To bad about Titanium not being able to be removed. I hate having stuff I don't use taking up memory.
I did try Nag rom with 6.5.1. Nice but having the Start button on the bottom of the screen interferes with some of my programs. Looks like 6.5.1 and possibly 7 will require repurchasing or upgrading of some programs.
I'll try nag .9.
Thanks for the suggestions.
gedster314 said:
To bad about Titanium not being able to be removed. I hate having stuff I don't use taking up memory.
I did try Nag rom with 6.5.1. Nice but having the Start button on the bottom of the screen interferes with some of my programs. Looks like 6.5.1 and possibly 7 will require repurchasing or upgrading of some programs.
I'll try nag .9.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Which programs?
The only thing I've run into is Resco Explorer's bottom bar gets half covered, but it's still very manageable using the large icons on the Resco bottom bar.
Resco explorer, conduits pocket player. Since I listen to alot of Podcasts with PP it's kind of deal breaker for now. I use to do Kinoma but I got tired of having to email them to reactivate my license every time I try a new Rom or hard reset. You would think there would be a way to use the phone # to validate the software so I would not have to reactivate it all the time.
I have since tried nag .9. I still find 6.5/6.5.1 to be a little laggy and still has issues with more then 3 apps open at once. It's probably just a function of the Vogue being a little out dated and can't handle the new stuff.
gedster314 said:
To bad about Titanium not being able to be removed. I hate having stuff I don't use taking up memory.
I did try Nag rom with 6.5.1. Nice but having the Start button on the bottom of the screen interferes with some of my programs. Looks like 6.5.1 and possibly 7 will require repurchasing or upgrading of some programs.
I'll try nag .9.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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Titanium takes up very little space anyway. NFSFAN's Rom as a whole does use that much space anyway. The Best thing is its stable & there really aren't any issues.
titanium is 2.5 Mb and can be removed.I can cook 1 for you.do you want any keyboards?do you want 6.5 or 6.5.1 ? MS menues or HTC menu enhancements?
Ive been a previous tilt owner for about 2 years and I just upgraded to the tilt 2. First thing I did was install spb mobile shell. I think its so much better then touchflo 3d. Im also using the kaiser tweaks. Ive never looked into using different ROM's. I think im nervous about installing something like that.
Ive noticed when leaving the phone on overnight (about 8 hours) it uses 10% battery life. The original tilt would use 1-2%. I dont have email set-up (ive heard that eats battery life), why is the phone using so much battery life?
There seems to be so much memory being used right when the phone turns on. About 113 megs. I feel like the phone runs pretty fast but I know it can run faster. Is using cooked ROM my only choice here?
I mainly use the phone for the internet and text messages. Im using opera mini 5. Is there any way delete opera mobile or is that integrated into the phone like internet explorer is? How can I make opera mini the "default" web browser?
I used the kaiser tweaks to enable HSPDA. Right after I did this, I noticed the "H" icon but after I restarted, it went away and hasnt come back? Any reason for this? I looked at the "tilt 2 data speed fix 1.0.cab" but when I goto start/settings/connections/advanced network there is no option to enable HSPDA. Only PAP and CHAP
How do I remove some of the programs on the phone that I never plan to use?
THANKS
Welcome aboard
I recommend installing a cooked ROM, it´s faster than any stock ROM and you will get rid of all garbage that slows your Rhodium.
bentz69 said:
How do I remove some of the programs on the phone that I never plan to use?
THANKS
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A lot of the programs on there (including the default opera install) are cooked into the stock ROM and are unremovable, unfortunately.
However, Crud Scraper will help clear out a lot of the stuff AT&T slipped in on top of the ROM. It won't get rid of everything you'll never use, but it can still clear a fair amount of space for you.
I'd like to add that it has been my experience, that frequent use of the internet does drain the battery much more quickly.
If you go cooked, choose your rom wisely. Some are configured more for business while others are more for fun.
I haven't done it myself, as I don't go online too much, but I have heard that sending your cache to your sd will help. Again, I haven't tried it myself, but Advanced Config (if my memory is right) does this, so does MemMaid.
Finally reclaim your ram throughout the day, shut down programs that may be running in the background, but that you are not currently using, and make minor adjustments and tweaks which will help you consume less resources, which will in turn help save your life.
Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
Is there any way to add Icons with shortcuts to spb mobile shell? Id like to make a youtube shortcut and even a MemMaid shortcut. All I see is "add widgets" but it doesnt allow and option to add my own
^Nevermind about the shortcut, I figured that out
bentz69 said:
Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
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I do not have an answer, and welcome any chefs to address this, as I myself have wondered what things I can remove from startup!!
bentz69 said:
Just downloaded MemMaid. Are any of these startup programs optional?
poutlook.lnk
BTTrayCE.lmk
MessageCSPTool.lnk
DelWMPTempFolder.lnk
HTCStartup.lnk
PKG.lnk
Is there any way to add Icons with shortcuts to spb mobile shell? Id like to make a youtube shortcut and even a MemMaid shortcut. All I see is "add widgets" but it doesnt allow and option to add my own
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1) Needed for automatic download of e-mails.
2) Bluetooth support.
3) HTC messager.
4) Deletes WMP's temp (like it says in title)
5) Starts services that creates missing icons whatever.
6) Needed, won't recommend delete it.
Jackos said:
1) Needed for automatic download of e-mails.
2) Bluetooth support.
3) HTC messager.
4) Deletes WMP's temp (like it says in title)
5) Starts services that creates missing icons whatever.
6) Needed, won't recommend delete it.
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Thanks Jackos, and considering how awesome your roms have been I trust this info completely!! I appreciate you taking the time to clarify that for all of us non-chefs.
Could you please tell me what the following does, and is it safe to delete...
1-Instant Forward
2-ysrem
Thank you in advance.
You're welcome.
I don't have your shortcuts, so I assume they're from some installed programs.
From my experience you may delete all those shortcuts and the phone will boot anyway Just keep in mind that your programs may not work correctly if you delete too much
Hello,
I am trying to remove a few unwanted programs that come with the new Tilt 2 Rom. I got rid of most of them with a program from this forum but there are a few that I still dont really want.
The big one I want gone is the Vlingo Voice App. I am never going to use this. Then there is the JETCET presenter 5, Opera (im just a sucker for IE just because I love MS so much), and ATT music. Any one know how I trash these suckers?
Another question is where in the registry can I find the start up programs?
Thanks
Dan
Golgade said:
Hello,
I am trying to remove a few unwanted programs that come with the new Tilt 2 Rom. I got rid of most of them with a program from this forum but there are a few that I still dont really want.
The big one I want gone is the Vlingo Voice App. I am never going to use this. Then there is the JETCET presenter 5, Opera (im just a sucker for IE just because I love MS so much), and ATT music. Any one know how I trash these suckers?
Another question is where in the registry can I find the start up programs?
Thanks
Dan
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I don't know of any way to remove the cooked apps except to run the stock ROM through a kitchen and pull out the unwanted EXT packages.
Start up programs are not in the registry. They are shortcuts in \Windows\Startup.
Try this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637
I'm not sure if Crudscraper has been updated for the new ATT ROM yet, so read through the thread for details.
Crud scraper doesn't list Vlingo or Opera 9. I tries.
ATT Tilt II, WM 6.5
Hi there,
I've recently downloaded both Vito's SMS-Chat and Birdsoft's Extreme Text programs as possible alternative text-messaging clients. I have a Tilt 2 phone running on Windows Mobile 6.5 - with the most recent upgrade provided on the HTC Web site. (My phone runs on HTC Sense, for example.) I'm having a problem with both of these text-messaging programs. Both programs install successfully on my phone, and both programs show sent and received messages that have been initiated by using the default SMS client; however, when using either SMS-Chat or Extreme Text, I am UNABLE TO SEND a text message. In the threaded-messaging windows, they will list the messages that I have written - but the messages don't actually get sent. Are these two programs incompatible with the Tilt 2 phone running on the upgraded WM 6.5 / HTC Sense? Is there anything that I could do to get these programs to work? I find the default HTC Sense messaging client to be slow and cumbersome. Thanks for whatever advice that anyone could provide. I noticed that someone else had posted a question similar to this one - regarding SMS-Chat only - but a solution didn't appear to be listed in that thread. Also, since my question is with regard to both of these text-messaging programs, I decided to begin a new thread. Thanks again.
DD7374 said:
Hi there,
I've recently downloaded both Vito's SMS-Chat and Birdsoft's Extreme Text programs as possible alternative text-messaging clients. I have a Tilt 2 phone running on Windows Mobile 6.5 - with the most recent upgrade provided on the HTC Web site. (My phone runs on HTC Sense, for example.) I'm having a problem with both of these text-messaging programs. Both programs install successfully on my phone, and both programs show sent and received messages that have been initiated by using the default SMS client; however, when using either SMS-Chat or Extreme Text, I am UNABLE TO SEND a text message. In the threaded-messaging windows, they will list the messages that I have written - but the messages don't actually get sent. Are these two programs incompatible with the Tilt 2 phone running on the upgraded WM 6.5 / HTC Sense? Is there anything that I could do to get these programs to work? I find the default HTC Sense messaging client to be slow and cumbersome. Thanks for whatever advice that anyone could provide. I noticed that someone else had posted a question similar to this one - regarding SMS-Chat only - but a solution didn't appear to be listed in that thread. Also, since my question is with regard to both of these text-messaging programs, I decided to begin a new thread. Thanks again.
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Why aren't you asking this question on Vito's or Birdsoft's website? This would be a support question for them to answer. Most of us use Arksoft messenger or some other included one from our ROMs. If the program isn't compatible with your device, then they should offer you a refund.
EDIT: After looking at both websites, it appears that SMS Chat is compatible with WM versions 5, 6.0, and 6.1. Extreme Text is listed as compatible with 6.0, 6.1, and 6.5.
Arcsoft and the Tilt 2 running WM 6.5 with HTC Sense
cajunflavoredbob said:
Why aren't you asking this question on Vito's or Birdsoft's website? This would be a support question for them to answer. Most of us use Arksoft messenger or some other included one from our ROMs. If the program isn't compatible with your device, then they should offer you a refund.
EDIT: After looking at both websites, it appears that SMS Chat is compatible with WM versions 5, 6.0, and 6.1. Extreme Text is listed as compatible with 6.0, 6.1, and 6.5.
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Thanks a lot for the advice. I contacted both Vito's and Birdsoft's customer-service departments; I'm just waiting for a response from each. Thanks, too, for taking the time to research the WM versions with which these two programs are compatible.
I tried to install Arcsoft, the program to which you referred. My phone indicated that the program installed successfully; but I cannot see the icon, nor can I find it anywhere in any of the directories. I installed a "security policy lifter" cab, too, which I found mentioned somewhere in this forum. Evidently, that little cab is to be installed before Arcsoft is. Anyway, do you have any ideas why this isn't working for me? If you do and if you have a moment, please pass them along. Thanks again for the response.
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Thanks a lot for the advice. I contacted both Vito's and Birdsoft's customer-service departments; I'm just waiting for a response from each. Thanks, too, for taking the time to research the WM versions with which these two programs are compatible.
I tried to install Arcsoft, the program to which you referred. My phone indicated that the program installed successfully; but I cannot see the icon, nor can I find it anywhere in any of the directories. I installed a "security policy lifter" cab, too, which I found mentioned somewhere in this forum. Evidently, that little cab is to be installed before Arcsoft is. Anyway, do you have any ideas why this isn't working for me? If you do and if you have a moment, please pass them along. Thanks again for the response.
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If you use a stock ROM, meaning a ROM image that the device came with or an upgrade from your carrier or HTC, then you will need the security policy lifter installed beforehand. This will lift the restrictions on your device for modifying the system files that Arksoft messenger changes. If you are running a custom ROM, then you should not need that cab at all as this change will already be cooked in.
Make sure that you install the WVGA version of the cab file. This is the resolution that the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) uses, which is 480x800.
Arksoft Messenger is meant to replace the default HTC messenger. There should not be any icons or Start Menu links for you to open. The application is meant to stand in the place of HTC Messenger wherever that application would have opened.
The only other thing I can think of is to remove both of those programs and then install sdkcerts. I've attached that file for your reference. Once that installs, soft reset your device and then install Arksoft. If that doesn't work, (keep in mind that it replaces HTC Messenger) then maybe try out a custom ROM or something that has it cooked in already.
Arcsoft and the Tilt 2 WM 6.5 with HTC Sense / Vito SMS-Chat / Extreme Text
cajunflavoredbob said:
If you use a stock ROM, meaning a ROM image that the device came with or an upgrade from your carrier or HTC, then you will need the security policy lifter installed beforehand. This will lift the restrictions on your device for modifying the system files that Arksoft messenger changes. If you are running a custom ROM, then you should not need that cab at all as this change will already be cooked in.
Make sure that you install the WVGA version of the cab file. This is the resolution that the Rhodium (Touch Pro2) uses, which is 480x800.
Arksoft Messenger is meant to replace the default HTC messenger. There should not be any icons or Start Menu links for you to open. The application is meant to stand in the place of HTC Messenger wherever that application would have opened.
The only other thing I can think of is to remove both of those programs and then install sdkcerts. I've attached that file for your reference. Once that installs, soft reset your device and then install Arksoft. If that doesn't work, (keep in mind that it replaces HTC Messenger) then maybe try out a custom ROM or something that has it cooked in already.
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Thanks for your thorough response and for the time that you took in compiling this information. I've already done everything that you suggested, though, and I've even contacted Vito's and Extreme Text's support teams... but to no avail. Neither has replied. With regard to Arcsoft Messenger, I tried just as you suggested; but that didn't work. I think, at this point, I should just let it go. Looking for a "cooked" or custom ROM might be a bit beyond my scope of knowledge. I imagine that I'd have to do a hard reset as well - not something that I enjoy! If you could think of anything else, by all means let me know! Otherwise, thanks again for lending your expertise and patience. I appreciate it.
DD7374 said:
Thanks for your thorough response and for the time that you took in compiling this information. I've already done everything that you suggested, though, and I've even contacted Vito's and Extreme Text's support teams... but to no avail. Neither has replied. With regard to Arcsoft Messenger, I tried just as you suggested; but that didn't work. I think, at this point, I should just let it go. Looking for a "cooked" or custom ROM might be a bit beyond my scope of knowledge. I imagine that I'd have to do a hard reset as well - not something that I enjoy! If you could think of anything else, by all means let me know! Otherwise, thanks again for lending your expertise and patience. I appreciate it.
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The first flash can be a bit daunting, but it gets easier with time. Hard resets and flashes can be prepared for by the numerous backup applications available. Microsoft Myphone will backup all of your personal information for you. Any programs you have installed from the marketplace can be re-downloaded. Any applications you've installed in any other fashion can be backed up and then reinstalled. Once you get the knack for flashing, it is a simple task to learn how to automate the flashing process so that everything installs and restores itself automatically. Most all current ROMs for the Rhodium will use a different messenger program than the HTC one.
cajunflavoredbob said:
The first flash can be a bit daunting, but it gets easier with time. Hard resets and flashes can be prepared for by the numerous backup applications available. Microsoft Myphone will backup all of your personal information for you. Any programs you have installed from the marketplace can be re-downloaded. Any applications you've installed in any other fashion can be backed up and then reinstalled. Once you get the knack for flashing, it is a simple task to learn how to automate the flashing process so that everything installs and restores itself automatically. Most all current ROMs for the Rhodium will use a different messenger program than the HTC one.
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Sorry for the delay in my response... Thanks very much for your insights and expertise. I will give your suggestions a try!