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As of this time, there is no Blue Angel-compatible CE ROM of Windows Mobile 5 to date, in beta or final form, in circulation nor available for examination or experimentation to us.
As of this time, there are no official or unofficial plans or announcements by any manufacturer, distributor, or wireless carrier.
Please do not create new threads or post off-topic in current threads that are in regards to this UNLESS you have witnessed firsthand that one does exist or that you are or can be in possession of a Blue Angel device that has actual Windows Mobile 5 code on it.
As soon as we can get our hands on a test ROM, we will let you know as soon as possible.
Thank you.
Thanks to BeyondtheTech for the idea and text.
Possible work around
Well its a thought
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=22111
If you have comments post to that thread
The Dream is OVER!!! The president of imate said it
Some dutch company interviewed the head of Imate (in English), He said it himself, that the reason was because of memory issues, and the he was afraid that everytime, the phone died or there was a hard reset, we would lose part of the operating system. heres the link to the dutch webite
Here is a link to the Web Site
Here is a Direct Link to the streaming Audio interview
i'm guessing u didn't see the thread about WM5 actually on a BA device did u? well it's true, WM5 CAN be put on a Blue Angel.
by the way, i listened to the podcast, and he was talking about the magician. now if it was the SuperJAM, then i think it would be ok. but devices with 64MB RAM, then you will have the problem. but since the BA has 128MB RAM it's ok.
Dale Coffing on his site mentions something interesting. At the end of his review on the Samsung i730, he posts a response to a reader in the comments section who was asking about WM5 on the Samsung. Here is his reply:
"I have been running Windows Mobile 5 as a development platform on a BlueAngel device (the MDA3) so it kind of spoiling me to not have some of the advanced features on the i730."
So, it seems that not only is WM5 for the BA possible, but it already exists.
Here is the link to his site: http://dalecoffing.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/06/first_look_sams.html#more
Youre right, i also read this, but we all knew this before. We know that it exists and we were very very close to getting a hand on it, severel times.
Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
I emailed Dale hes a putts and eveyone on the world who has a BA with 5 and doesnt share it. There all putt's
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Well if Dale was as big of a bible thumper as he claims he is, he would have shared the device with us by now, after all isn't that what Christians supposed to do, share with the needy? But I suspect that his bigger passion is wth MS so I am pretty sure he won't share with us.
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If hes such a "bible thumper" as you say that's the very reason he wont give out what doesn't belong to him.
EFJAY--Please help...
I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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I’m having the problem you’ve already solved on the PDA2K with the GPRS re-connection on T-mobile. I ran "The last ones" cab file for changing the ‘flags2’ file to 16. So far so good.
The other issue of course is the need to downgrade my caller id version to 1.20 build 17957. I have the cab file for that: IA_CallerID_1.20_WWE.CAB but when I copy it from my desktop to the device and double tap it I get the same error message: “The file “\windows\iacontacts.dll” is in use or is in ROM. If the file is not in ROM, please close the application using the file.”
So, the second part of the fix is a no go. This device is my goodlink and to be honest I desperately need a work around for this bug in the 1.40 ROM. I would be EXTEMELY grateful if you could stem me through the process of downgrading the caller id .dll file to 1.20 build 17957 and somehow getting around the fact that it’s in ROM.
Thanks very much for your help. I’m afraid I’m supposed to be leaving town tomorrow late afternoon and this IMATE PDA2K was supposed to be my lifeline. Now I’m ready to throw this brick out the window and buy a treo. I’m depressed. L
I would really be grateful for any assistance. Thanks so much.
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im assuming you meant to click new topic rather than reply at the top of the thread!!!, lol
Can we post in here now?
PLEASE!!??!?!?!
Or at least change the sticky to the one that says WM5 is up and running?
Dear all,
I contacted HTC for my device upgrading and ROM updates, and they direct me to this forum.
I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6. I explored all what you posted here but couldn't decide which version and link is suitable for me. Any way, here down my device information, and I'm appreciating any help to upgrade my device to WM6.
Device Information:
Device Name: HTC TyTN (Unlocked)
Language: English
Processor: SC32442A - 400MHz
Memory: 49.05 MB
System: Windows Mobile 5.0 OS 5.1.195 (Build 14955.2.3.0)
That are all information I could get from my device
Need Help my friends.
After all, I beleive that HTC should have an upgrade area to support their devices.
Thank you in advance.
Hi there!
its good to know that HTC assistants sent you here on this forum !!
I can suggest you to go for the wm6 image black 2.5 as its been always the most stable for me, so read the wiki and all the documents to upgrade your hermes to that version.
http://www.mrvanx.org/cms/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37&Itemid=26
and don't run in the upgrade, take your time to read everything and if you don't understand something, come back here.
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I have a TyTN unlocked device, and want to upgrade to WM6.
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It depends on your personal reasons for upgrading. If you want to upgrade because of more speed and more stability you should try Black 2.5. If you are doing it because of adventuresomeness you should give all of the great roms here a try.
But at least you should try Black 2.5, Duttys V2 and Custels 1.3 to find out which one is the best for you. You should also try different radios to see if theres a difference in your area.
And don't forget the most important object: read mrvanx upgrade guides very very carefully and follow every step exactly.
be aware that the ROMs here are *unofficial* and *unsupported* ROMs.
HTC will NOT help you out if you screw up your device.
if you are unsure about flashing, then stay with the stock ROM.
I have a UK unlocked Tytn and would very strongly recommend Black 2.5.
My first ever ROM upgrade was Black 1.2 and it was soo god. 2.0 was even better and 2.5 better still. Have had no problems, battery life is much better, doesn't lockup/freeze any more, loads more memory available.....i could go on.
Go for it - follow mrvanx's upgrade guide. he makes it very easy
Flashig roms is one way... be careful...
When I first flashed a WM6 Rom on to my HERMES I made sure I read all the preinstall instructions very carefully as I didn't have a clue about flashing. MR VANX's guide is excellent, follow it carefully and you can't go wrong.
I have now successfully flashed numerous ROMS on to my device.
No-one can tell you which is the best ROM as they are all excellent for their own different features and customisations. You will need to try a few and see which you like best.
Good Luck.
I highly doubt
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be terminated.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
Thank you
Thank you a lot for your replies guys. They helped me a lot. I'll do the upgrade and will back to you with the results. Thanks again.
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I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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It always amazes me how corporate structures can be so schizoid. I too have received- from in-the-trenches personel- a pointer to this site specifically for beta testing WM6 Push. Conversely, the moderators here made it clear that management at HTC was a major impetus behind MS's request that the ftp archives be pulled.
The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
My Upgrading Status
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
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The kicker for me is that the Wiki on HTC's US site specifically points to this XDA-developers and those postings are all vetted by someone at HTC USA. I'm thankful for that because that's how I found this site in the first place.
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I always suspected that secretly HTC were using us as beta testing guinea pigs, now it looks like I was right! And half of the fixes for their bugs are created by developers on this site.
Seriously though, if your Hermes is no longer covered by the original HTC warranty (as mine was from the very first day I got it, since I bought it from an "unauthorized" distributor), then HTC have nothing to lose by pointing someone to this site. They might as well have said, "Flush it down the toilet for all we care..."
John
HTC's wiki is just like ours, anyone can edit it... So i doubt that HTC themselves put a link to XDA on their wiki, but someone else probably did..
You need to install the voice commander CAB located on the first page of BLACK2.5 Then remap the button.
You should read thru the numerous posted before asked already resolved issues. Congrats on the UPGRADE!!!
redaatef said:
First of all, I would like to add my voice to (teambnet) that I'm thankful for them to made me know this website and forum in the first place.
OK, about my upgrading status guys, I did exactely as shown in mrvanx.org website and did install WM6 Black 2.5, everything is gone fine except one thing, that the button of contact voice tag is not working. When I push that button, it gives me a message "Error opening the shortcut or locating the target filename.", I tried then to assign the shortcut to a program by going to Start --> Settings --> Buttons, but I couldn't find the program that should be assigned. I don't know if my problem are clear or not but I tried to explain as much I could. Any suggestions to solve that?
Thanks all,
Reda,
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Finally Finished
Hi all,
Thank you stuckes, I did as you told me and everything gone very nice. WM6 is a nice OS, not that much different from WM5 at least for me. But, it's nice. Thank you all for your help in that.
I got a question, when I would to upgrade, there are many versions of WM6, Black2.5 and other versions, where can I find a complete comparison with screenshots of them to decide if I'm gonna change to another one or stick to black 2.5?
Regards,
Arnie gets tough with the chefs.....
silverfox0214 said:
That an HTC representative sent someone here for ROM updates to WM 6.0.
If they did and are caught, they will probably be TERMINATED.
I deal with HTC regularly and they don't condone or encourage our methods of tuning and research.
Be careful out there.
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Asta la vista baby !
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
naxos said:
hi ... what about black 3.00 for may tytn
thanks
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Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
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Is there black 3.00? where can we find more details about it?
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There's a black 3.0.1.
Easily found along with a list of many other ROMs on the wiki page here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Cooked_ROMs
And this is the link to the Black 3.0.1 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305940
HTH, Oggy.
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jim256 said:
Hey I simply had a quick question regarding if you think this HTC ROM builder program will have support for the CMDA Vogue Touch as it does for the GSM Elf Touch?
Thanks a lot, Jim.
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If I will recieve specific FW data (block's names, IDs and sizes) for this phones from someone then I can include it in new version of devices config file.
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sorry but where exactly would i find this information? i would be more than happy to help in order to get things rolling for the Vogue. Thanks a lot,
Jim.
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You need to be confident in firmware-disassembling to properly extract and understand this information. As I have not Vogue in my hands I can't help you with this. Try to ask somebody in the forum to dig out and provide this infos.
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i was wondering if anyone out there knows exactly what to do for the last paragraph there?
it would be awesome to have that rom building tool working for the vogue i think, especially for those who really dont know how to cook a rom at all.
im not sure if heres referring to anything more than a prepit.bat of a vogue nbh, though i would guess its more complicated than that.
anyone? thanks.
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i was wondering if anyone out there knows exactly what to do for the last paragraph there?
it would be awesome to have that rom building tool working for the vogue i think, especially for those who really dont know how to cook a rom at all.
im not sure if heres referring to anything more than a prepit.bat of a vogue nbh, though i would guess its more complicated than that.
anyone? thanks.
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What's the point? I'd rather leave it up to those who know how to make a good, stable rom kitchen, than attempt it on my own.
--James
i dont think there is much risk here, seeing as how you can always re-flash again. it would just be a great learning tool, as well as a great developing tool for those who are interested.
cooking roms can take an awful lot of work, and this looks like it could really clean things up, not to mention its GUI would help a lot of noobs get started.
jim256 said:
i was wondering if anyone out there knows exactly what to do for the last paragraph there?
it would be awesome to have that rom building tool working for the vogue i think, especially for those who really dont know how to cook a rom at all.
im not sure if heres referring to anything more than a prepit.bat of a vogue nbh, though i would guess its more complicated than that.
anyone? thanks.
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I may be wrong, but it sounds like he's referring to the template used by nbhtool that basically automates nbhgen so that you don't have to update the configuration txt?
dew.man said:
I may be wrong, but it sounds like he's referring to the template used by nbhtool that basically automates nbhgen so that you don't have to update the configuration txt?
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unfortunately like i said, i have no idea. anyone else able to comment on this??
thanks for your help guys.
OK, I am new here and have done a lot of reading. Apparently me and about 3 other guys are the only ones that have USCC, not a lot out there for us. NFSFAN, you have mentioned that you might be able to whip us up something if there were more, that would be great. I do have a number of specific questions and I'd love all the great input that everyone has.
1. 6.5 or Android? (yes I know it is all personal taste)
2. My touch does not have GPS enabled from USCC. If I unlock the phone do I use .41 or 2.31? Yes I want GPS and would find a ROM with it and is that why I would choose one or the other?
3. My Radio is 3.42.30, do I need to upgrade to 3.42.50 for GPS or just to upgrade to 6.5? and where do I find that radio?
4. Am I asking to basic of questions yet?
5. How do I get Adobe Flash Player loaded/upgraded?
6. Is there a good .cab website out there for games/apps?
7. Can I have my cake and eat it too?
Nah j/k but I know my phone is capable of so much more than I am using it for now and want to take advantage of it. I really appreciate all the help and suggestions.
Thanks
HTC Touch Vogue 6900
3.01.573.4
3.42.30
Have you look over at PPC Geek's at all? There is a lot more CDMa info there.
Ok, I kinda thought this was the forum for CDMA, aka my USCC VOGUE phone. I have looked on ppc and am going to repost this question there. I saw the wealth of knowledge here and thought I could get some help....
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Ok, I kinda thought this was the forum for CDMA, aka my USCC VOGUE phone. I have looked on ppc and am going to repost this question there. I saw the wealth of knowledge here and thought I could get some help....
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This particular forum is for the CDMA Vogue but this site is geared more toward GSM devices. There doesn't seem to be a big US Cellular following on here.
gps on uscc
i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
gps on uscc
i have my gps working. cokeman 2.31 unlocker and a omj.3.09.01custom rom. works great
Well seeing as no one actually answered your post ... here goes
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1. 6.5 or Android? (yes I know it is all personal taste)
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Yes it is a personal choice, nice thing about Android is that it is a Linux shell - rebooting the phone brings you back to WinMO so really it can be best of both worlds just be prepared for some work in using Android and remembering steps before starting it like, Starting IE/Opera before starting Android to make sure you have Internet within Android (at least when I was using it a few months back)
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2. My touch does not have GPS enabled from USCC. If I unlock the phone do I use .41 or 2.31? Yes I want GPS and would find a ROM with it and is that why I would choose one or the other?
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You would use 2.31 unlocker and from there flash to a custom ROM - try a Generic ROM either 6.1 or WinMO6.5 might be able to utilize GPS if your connecting via generic or seek out some other USCC users in threads, I know some are using 6.5 currently and able to work fairly well
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3. My Radio is 3.42.30, do I need to upgrade to 3.42.50 for GPS or just to upgrade to 6.5? and where do I find that radio?
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No, 3.42.30 is fine, you wont see a difference with 3.42.50 worth it plus it can cause some issues more than positives so stay to the basics
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4. Am I asking to basic of questions yet?
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No, can you be more simplistic in them LOL j/k
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5. How do I get Adobe Flash Player loaded/upgraded?
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Depends on the ROM used as well as the Browser (IE or Opera) there is some reports of IE Mobile 8 or something like that working but flaky
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6. Is there a good .cab website out there for games/apps?
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Search the forums both here at VDA as well as PPCGeeks you will see links to personal cab repositories that will contain some for ya
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7. Can I have my cake and eat it too?
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Of course you can, but the actual saying is "can I eat my cake and have it too" in reference to the days of Marie Antoinette and the famous line of "let them eat cake" the idea is to be able to eat your cake AND have it, which of course would be impossible as would the situation a person in reference to the saying would be wanting as well
Hope that helps
Detroit Doug
Thanks Doug I had almost given up hope on this thread. I have been on PPC Geeks and am just about to take the plunge. Thanks for all the advice and I see the logic in the actual "eat / have it" order, very interesting and educational. Thanks again and I will try to update after I upgrade.
spittinfly, in your reading have you found the settings you need with QPST to make your GPS work with USCellular? Also, the instructions that get you into the diagnostic mode with other carriers do not work with USCellular. I had to do a lot of reading myself, and piece together information from several different threads to make it work. With the same radio you have I can lock in from 6 to 11 satellites. If you have found all this information I won't bother typing it all in, but if you need it let me know.
Personally, I've tried a couple of different ROMs, but I'm currently just running the USCellular WM6.1 with SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.5, while I'm anxiously awaiting Shell 3.
Well I am not familiar w/ SPB but I did go on ppcgeeks and searching for "uscc 6900" found what appears to be a good option for me. Would someone mind checking it out?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53675&highlight=uscc+6900.
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Well I am not familiar w/ SPB but I did go on ppcgeeks and searching for "uscc 6900" found what appears to be a good option for me. Would someone mind checking it out?
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=53675&highlight=uscc+6900.
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SPB is a set of applications for use ON your phone (SPB Backup, SPB Keyboard, ETC) SPB is the company name followed by what the app is
As far as the thread, Im hoping and assuming you are referring to NFSFAN 6.5 V6R2 Generic Carrier ROM ... I only ask as I am not going to read through 8 pages of replies to find what your referring to
If it is regarding NFSFAN and the ROM he has to offer, then yes I would suggest trying it, its the ROM I use on my HTC Vogue (Touch) and its been stable, fast and reliable
Detroit Doug
Is there a way to "turn on" the GPS (unlocker first, I understand this) WITHOUT changing the ROM?
I very much enjoy my current setup with ONE exception: no GPS.
I've read a little about QPST and have tried a version of it (its been quite a while) but it doesn't seem to recognize my 6900...
so... basically... 2 questions: 1. can I turn on GPS using only a settings change in QPST, and if so, 2. what version of QPST do I need to do so?
FYI, USCC 6900 6.1 Radio 3.42.30 ROM 3.01.573.4
Thanks in advance
Folks, first post here so i apologise if this is asked every other week. I had a look through the first 7 pages and couldnt find anything related.
Basically looking to upgrade my TP2 from 6.1 to 6.5, but all this chat of "ROM" etc is totally new to me.
I noticed in the Android development forum theres an extremely simple guide, but just wondered if anyone could point me in the right direction of a guide for 6.5?
Thanks!
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Folks, first post here so i apologise if this is asked every other week. I had a look through the first 7 pages and couldnt find anything related.
Basically looking to upgrade my TP2 from 6.1 to 6.5, but all this chat of "ROM" etc is totally new to me.
I noticed in the Android development forum theres an extremely simple guide, but just wondered if anyone could point me in the right direction of a guide for 6.5?
Thanks!
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