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Have been following the various ROM threads on here as we rush towards various recipes based on Win 6.1. Problem is I have seen the question on "what's new/what the differences are between 6.0 and 6.1" posed several times but not seen a definitive response.
Someone has commented that the PIM structure in 6.1 is different to 6.0 and that we now have a form of threaded SMS in place. Apart from this and the fact that some screenshots show a differing menu structure, that's about all we know at this time.
Could someone in the know please give a definitive view on what the differences/improvements/negatives are? If this has already been posted and I have missed it then -
1) Apologies
2) Please post up the relevant links
For those of you already using 6.1, what's your global experience so far? Is it worth the hype? Are there any benefits to be gained? What's your view on stability?
Thanks
WB
Here is a useful link (found by engadget mobile):
http://translate.google.com/transla...005&#entry129005&langpair=pt|en&hl=en&ie=UTF8
I haven't upgraded yet, I might wait for one more build/better ROM stability (i.e. maybe Schap's next one! )
- Office Mobile now includes also One Note Mobile application
- Internet Explorer now has function "Zoom Out" what enables page-overview mode and better overall navigation through web pages
- Windows Mobile 6.1 still is based on Windows CE 5.2 so no upgrade to Windows CE 6.0
- SMS chat view mode is available so SMS messages can appear in threaded-way - more comfortable to follow SMS conversations
- instead of "Settings / Memory / Running Programs" now a Task Manager is available with possibility to set settings of executed threads/processes like CPU (indication of dual-core Windows Mobile devices?) and memory
- New menu item "Managed Programs"
Frenchglen, Klabton,
Thanks guys.
In terms of stability my guess is that Schaps and Kin0ken will crack this, if its an issue.
Lets see what the cooks bring out.
Cheers
WB
Mcfarlan,
Thanks for the input. Kin0kin's roms tend to be both stable and fast so it will be interesting to see what he brings out. Like you the improvements to eg PIE won't be of benefit; however overall speed of the rom in the way you describe WILL.
After trying several of the 6.1s, I went back to Shamanix Ultimate because they each have their quirks and for now I need stability. Threaded SMS (I don't do much messaging) and IE enhancements (I use Opera Mini) were not enough to make me switch right now.
What is impressive is the increased performance speed. With 6.1, Active Sync inaitial update was fully completed in less than 20 secs versus 2 - 3 minutes, and browsing the Windows folder were really quick. For me the fastest were a toss-up between Schaps and the PDAVIET versions.
ShadoW 2.0 TE is really a good 6.1 rom, but it does not use the same buildos than most others do
I can say it s really faster than all the older roms. I was a big Schap's fan but the roms that came out since november were getting slower and slower, although always stable and definetely nice looking.
It's worth the upgrade for the extra speed you ll get
klabton said:
- Windows Mobile 6.1 still is based on Windows CE 5.2 so no upgrade to Windows CE 6.0
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Ist this the reason, that the roms available here do not look like this:
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/gallery/handsets/windows-mobile-61/
?
As stated 100 times before: THIS SCREENSHOTS ARE FROM THE SMARTPHONE EDITION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
speed, the other improvements are already available with 3rd party apps (most of which have become standards in cooked roms) however it is faster
very very fast, no doubt about it.
Does anyone know what "Managed Programs" does?
don't know if that's schaps rom feature or 6.1:
- bluetooth automatically paired with my car's handsfree bt device (earlier I had to enter the passcode)
blinkin said:
don't know if that's schaps rom feature or 6.1:
- bluetooth automatically paired with my car's handsfree bt device (earlier I had to enter the passcode)
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happened with Pays ROM too... guessin it's 6.1
quick question guys, so all 6.1 roms out here has the SMS threaded app by default?
yup.. it does
found on the web
hi,
I have found these articles: http://msmobiles.com/news.php/7065.html
Windows Mobile 6.1 will be unveiled officially in about 2 weeks at Mobile World Congress 2008 (watch our first-hand reports from there!) but already now somebody has managed to play with it!
Here are the highlights:
* Office Mobile now includes also One Note Mobile application - apart from Word Mobile, Excel Mobile and PowerPoint Mobile, one new application is available - it can record voice notes and drawings and textual notes
* Internet Explorer now has function "Zoom Out" what enables page-overview mode and better overall navigation through web pages
* Windows Mobile 6.1 still is based on Windows CE 5.2 so no upgrade to Windows CE 6.0
* SMS chat view mode is available so SMS messages can appear in threaded-way - more comfortable to follow SMS conversations
* instead of "Settings / Memory / Running Programs" now a Task Manager is available with possibility to set settings of executed threads/processes like CPU (indication of dual-core Windows Mobile devices?) and memory
* new menu item "Managed Programs"
* the much expected improvements in usage for finger based navigation - are nowhere to be found! (apparently users will need to wait till 2009 for Windows Mobile 7 to get them)
wfg
Starbase64
chev said:
quick question guys, so all 6.1 roms out here has the SMS threaded app by default?
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Yes but I'm still gonna complain about it. I should have known MS would do some lame version of threaded msgs. I just can't believe how popular txt msging is there isn't something better. It doesn't timestamp any of my prior txt msgs except for the date and it doesnt count my characters as I am typing so I know when I go over 160 into another txt msg.
Small complaints but still.. So its back to palm threaded for me..
Voldemort said:
ShadoW 2.0 TE is really a good 6.1 rom, but it does not use the same buildos than most others do
I can say it s really faster than all the older roms. I was a big Schap's fan but the roms that came out since november were getting slower and slower, although always stable and definetely nice looking.
It's worth the upgrade for the extra speed you ll get
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I'm also a big Schaps fan until i flashed to Shadow 2.0 TE, really fast and has minimal problems compared to other WM6.1 roms. Yep, i'm keeping this one for a while because of the "extra speed".
MrDSL said:
Yes but I'm still gonna complain about it. I should have known MS would do some lame version of threaded msgs. I just can't believe how popular txt msging is there isn't something better. It doesn't timestamp any of my prior txt msgs except for the date and it doesnt count my characters as I am typing so I know when I go over 160 into another txt msg.
Small complaints but still.. So its back to palm threaded for me..
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What 6.1 Rom are you using? I'm using Shadow2.0, and i have a time stamp of all the incoming and outgoing messages on the chat window. and whenever i am typing a message, the window title shows the number of characters, e.g. "12/160" which shows the number of characters typed.
Guys,
Thanks for the inputs; no answer yet to the question as to what the menu option "Managed Programs" does?
I'm still researching in general but not found this one yet.
WB
I've done a little research into this and I'm wondering if there's an application to use that I can send text messages through my PC when my S620 is connected?
I found a Microsoft SMS program that seems to only work with non-smart phones. I would think they especially make an app for Windows Mobile phones if they have one for plain old cell phones.
Any know anything?
hey there
There's a product called TrueConnect but it aint free. Look for MyMobile which is almost the same, but ya cant text (that i know off) using it. If anyone knows any different, post a reply please.
DashWire allows it and it's free...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414214&highlight=dashwire
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DashWire allows it and it's free...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414214&highlight=dashwire
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Great pose, this site is amazing... I would recommend that you download this program and create an account on this site.
does this work on WM 6.1 rom?? i looked at the site and all i saw was a download for WM5.
takeastand said:
I've done a little research into this and I'm wondering if there's an application to use that I can send text messages through my PC when my S620 is connected?
I found a Microsoft SMS program that seems to only work with non-smart phones. I would think they especially make an app for Windows Mobile phones if they have one for plain old cell phones.
Any know anything?
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There are a couple of apps mDesktop and Jeyo Mobile Companion
i <3 jeyo ......i also love delicious cakes and pies..
Yes it works for 6.1 just great... i would recommend download it...
Hi,
I have an application that intercepts SMS messages - it fails to intercept SMS messages using Windows Mobile 6.5
Anyone seen this before, or know a way around it
Thanks
petevick said:
Hi,
I have an application that intercepts SMS messages - it fails to intercept SMS messages using Windows Mobile 6.5
Anyone seen this before, or know a way around it
Thanks
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Could you provide the sample of your code... have you tried the same in 6.1 or some other ROM/Emulator?
It may not intercept SMS, if the registration of your interceptor doesn't come early (other interceptor works before yours and block it). I mean, that tmail.exe which enumerates rules for SMS transport should apply your interceptor earlier than other ones. I dig some workaround of this: terminate tmail.exe, then unregister own interceptor and register it again. Try this, but it's not the fact.
Did you try that trick with tmail.exe? Or you just think, that this should work? I have same problem with my application, but I dont have device with wm 6.5 for testing and emulator doesnt want to cooperate.
lukas.durfina said:
Did you try that trick with tmail.exe? Or you just think, that this should work? I have same problem with my application, but I dont have device with wm 6.5 for testing and emulator doesnt want to cooperate.
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I use this trick in my Crimson Lock anti-thieft system. And this works quite stable. I tested on WM5 and WM6.1 devices.
The code works in 6.1 and 6.5 on some devices, but not on the HCT HD2 on Vodafone
Killing off tmail.exe makes no difference.
Just tried it on the O2 Version - still the same. Switched of HTC Sense - no difference
The C++ Sample http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb158685.aspx using IMailRuleClient works fine.
Have you tested your anti-theft system on an HTC HD2?
Dear all, I'm new to this forum and I'm looking for your qualified help.
I bought a short while ago a HTC TP2 with WM6.1. and I upgraded it to the WM6.5. using the original HTC ROM software. Before the Easter I've been trying to send several greetings sms to my friends, discovering the very limited sms capabilities of the TP2 (compared to my old Nokia N70) :-(((
1. I'm searching for a software application to install on both PC and TP2 to allow me typing SMS on my PC and sending them through the TouchPro2 (something similar to the Nokia PC Suite). Freeware is preferred of course. I've been googling for it, also doing a search on this beautiful forum, but I didn't spot anything reliable where TP2 is specified. Any good recommendation from your personal experience?
2. Actually cand someone point me to something similar to the Nokia PC Suite, does such a complete piece of software exist for Windows Mobile phones?
All the best to you all.
axelTP2 said:
2. Actually cand someone point me to something similar to the Nokia PC Suite, does such a complete piece of software exist for Windows Mobile phones?
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It looks like just using the features available in regular ol' ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center would achieve everything Nokia's PC suite does
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It looks like just using the features available in regular ol' ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center would achieve everything Nokia's PC suite does
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Thank you for the quick answer. I am using Win XP, therefore ActiveSync 4.5 is on the table. (I am unpleasantly surprised by the limited and decreasing capabilities of the AS 4.5 compared to much older versions like 3.7, but that's another story.)
Anyway, I am not aware of such a strong feature allowing me to type sms on my computer using the ActiveSync interface, therefore could you please give some details about this? I guess that I need more than that in terms of software and that's why asking on the forum. Thanks.
axelTP2 said:
Thank you for the quick answer. I am using Win XP, therefore ActiveSync 4.5 is on the table. (I am unpleasantly surprised by the limited and decreasing capabilities of the AS 4.5 compared to much older versions like 3.7, but that's another story.)
Anyway, I am not aware of such a strong feature allowing me to type sms on my computer using the ActiveSync interface, therefore could you please give some details about this? I guess that I need more than that in terms of software and that's why asking on the forum. Thanks.
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That's not a part of activesync natively, I was just covering everything I saw listed as a function of the Nokia PC suite...I didn't see that SMS was part of that.
I know there's a number of apps that will allow you to SMS via an ActiveSync'd TP2, the only one I happen to recall off the top of my head is Jeyo Mobile Companion. When I get home this evening I'll see if I can turn up any of the other ones I've run across. Jeyo's product is great, but not free.
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Thank you for the quick answer. I am using Win XP, therefore ActiveSync 4.5 is on the table. (I am unpleasantly surprised by the limited and decreasing capabilities of the AS 4.5 compared to much older versions like 3.7, but that's another story.)
Anyway, I am not aware of such a strong feature allowing me to type sms on my computer using the ActiveSync interface, therefore could you please give some details about this? I guess that I need more than that in terms of software and that's why asking on the forum. Thanks.
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I'm not aware of any such software available for TP2, though it seems Samsung has developed a similar ( like Nokia PC Suite) for the Omnia B7610 based on Active Sync, I'm not aware though if it will work on our handset.
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That's not a part of activesync natively, I was just covering everything I saw listed as a function of the Nokia PC suite...I didn't see that SMS was part of that.
I know there's a number of apps that will allow you to SMS via an ActiveSync'd TP2, the only one I happen to recall off the top of my head is Jeyo Mobile Companion. When I get home this evening I'll see if I can turn up any of the other ones I've run across. Jeyo's product is great, but not free.
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Sirphunkee, I was editting the post to give more details about the OS in use and about sms and probably that was the moment of your first answer. No harm done.
Thanks for the hints, I will see what Jeyo Mobile Companion can do. Of course other alternatives are most welcome.
With these limited sms capabilities of TP2 I feel like having 2 left hands :-((( Preparing a new sms one doesn't even get a view of the contacts list to click on the target name, but has to type the name. What about if having 5 or 10 persons to send to? Unbelievable unconfortable and unfriendly.
Sorry, the bitter comments are not addressed to you, but to the software designers which did not put themselves in the user's shoes.
Thanks for your open minded support.
axelTP2 said:
Sirphunkee, I was editting the post to give more details about the OS in use and about sms and probably that was the moment of your first answer. No harm done.
Thanks for the hints, I will see what Jeyo Mobile Companion can do. Of course other alternatives are most welcome.
With these limited sms capabilities of TP2 I feel like having 2 left hands :-((( Preparing a new sms one doesn't even get a view of the contacts list to click on the target name, but has to type the name. What about if having 5 or 10 persons to send to? Unbelievable unconfortable and unfriendly.
Sorry, the bitter comments are not addressed to you, but to the software designers which did not put themselves in the user's shoes.
Thanks for your open minded support.
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No problem
And we'll gladly add your opinions about how SMS is lacking on winmo to the pile that's already accumulated around here
Group SMS does not text from the pc but it DOES allow for mass sms. Also it is not free. That said, I use it to mass text people and it gets the job done nicely...you simply set up groups, check off the boxes of those you want it sent to, type your text and send.
http://www.handster.com/skb_group_sms_and_scheduler_52_best_selling_sms_application.html
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Group SMS does not text from the pc but it DOES allow for mass sms. Also it is not free. That said, I use it to mass text people and it gets the job done nicely...you simply set up groups, check off the boxes of those you want it sent to, type your text and send.
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Thank you akashastrega!
Yet I am a bit confused as you mentioned that Group SMS does not text from the pc, but, following your link, at the bottom of the page it says Skb Group SMS and Scheduler 5.2 does a PC application. May be there is a new version, if so I'll be most than happy. Also HTC TP2 is not shown in the Compatibility devices list, may be the list is old.
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It looks like just using the features available in regular ol' ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center would achieve everything Nokia's PC suite does
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Not really .. I admit that I do miss the ability to send SMS/MMS from my PC thru my old Nokia. PCSuite also allowed you to view/delete your messages on your PC, selecting which you needed to keep and which could be discarded. I honestly expected some kind of PC software to come with my TP2 and was disappointed to learn AS was the answer.
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I'm not aware of any such software available for TP2, though it seems Samsung has developed a similar ( like Nokia PC Suite) for the Omnia B7610 based on Active Sync, I'm not aware though if it will work on our handset.
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Thank you for the hint. I installed the Samsung New PC Studio v 1.4.0 for Omnia, it looks nice and similar as functions to the Nokia PC Suite, but as expected it does not recognize my TP2 phone as connected (USB). A matter of drivers I would say, but how to solve it? Thanks anyway, I forgot that Samsung put on the market WM phones.
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Not really .. I admit that I do miss the ability to send SMS/MMS from my PC thru my old Nokia. PCSuite also allowed you to view/delete your messages on your PC, selecting which you needed to keep and which could be discarded. I honestly expected some kind of PC software to come with my TP2 and was disappointed to learn AS was the answer.
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I fully agree with you. All the major phone manufacturers are supporting their phones with a free PC Suite, I am disappointed that HTC didn't cover the WM phones. Active Sync is a very poor solution with very limited features. I know there is a HTC PC Suite for the G1 nad Hero Android phones, but not for the winmo phones.
Btw, I wonder if anybody asked HTC about a PC Suite for the WM phones, with TP2 in particular, and what was the HTC answer?
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Thank you akashastrega!
Yet I am a bit confused as you mentioned that Group SMS does not text from the pc, but, following your link, at the bottom of the page it says Skb Group SMS and Scheduler 5.2 does a PC application. May be there is a new version, if so I'll be most than happy. Also HTC TP2 is not shown in the Compatibility devices list, may be the list is old.
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This is a newer version from what I have, which did not have pc linking...apparently they have changed that, but to what extent I do not know. I run version 5.0 on my TP2 without any issues and it does a fantastic job!! I am pretty sure that if an older version runs good on my TP2, this updated version will work just fine.
Hi again. These days I managed to install and test both the Jeyo Mobile Companion and the Skb Group SMS and Scheduler 5.2. Both are nice and doing what they are supposed to do, but I consider the Jeyo Mobile Companion more user friendly, looking closer to the Nokia PC Suite I am used to and therefore more appropriate to my needs. So I will buy this one. The only drawback is that is doing only sms and not mms, but is good enough for me for the time being.
Thanks everyone for the good advice.
Sending Bulk SMS through TP2
You can enter multiple recipients manually or create a group where you add members and send bulk SMS like that. You can also search (or scroll if you don't want to type) through your contacts to add them to an SMS. You mentioned that you are not able to do this.
Can you tell me what limitations you've discovered in TP2's SMS?
Just curious.
Thanks!
I have been using PowerSMS and My Mobiler to bulk sms from my phone via PC. Although I do have a bit of lag when typing, but that may be the Fuze vs TP2.
Also, Google Voice can do this for you too. I won't get into the setup needed but you can bulk sms from that interface.
I've used Efficasoft mobile Express (free), but since upgrading to latest 6.5 ROM, I'm having a problem with SMS remaining in 'outbox'. I have emailed them and they're working in a fix.
Just thought of an application which could allow me to "bulk-text-message", and after reading here, I am giving PowerSMS a go...
My carrier here in Norway has a program I can install and use from Outlook. It syncs perfectly, of course, and I can just click all the contacts I want to send the SMS to and click send.
Maybe your carrier has something like it?
bym007 said:
Just thought of an application which could allow me to "bulk-text-message", and after reading here, I am giving PowerSMS a go...
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I enjoy using it. During NFL season I burn through thousands of texts to Fantasy league members, family, etc. I still haven't figured out a way to backup the Lists that I create so I end up having to recreate them after each flash.
Hi
I developed an app in WinMo 6 and i want to port to WP7. it is easySMS (you can see that in codeplex).
I want to know how i work with contacts in WP7 emulator, how can i get contacts and how can i send SMS and....
please guide me. thanks
mSafdel
Why would you want to write a SMS application for WP7?
But there's no API for it, so you can't do it anyway