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HTC Desire Development

So, for some reason i was just lurking around the Desire forums... they're seriously hurting, they are way behind in terms of development, compared to the Nexus One. Does anybody know why this might be? Since they're basically the same phone, why isn't the Desire (so to speak) neck and neck with the Nexi?
I know that the Nexus One is like the biggest badass of all the phones, and quite frankly i don't know why i'm even asking this, but i'm curious.

Because we have Cyanogen, Kmobs and many other amazing devs

It was the same if you compared the hero with the G1 and Mytouch. I think it's because of the framework of HTC and the HTC phones aren't that open as the nexus. this is why i like my Nexus
I owned a Hero and damn the development on the OS was pathetic the only one who really worked on Hero was Paul (modaco) the others did there best to. but it was nothing i even couldn't put CM on Hero. When the 2.1 came out it was ported to G1 but the hero had to wait, wait for a long time. there where some 2.1 releases for the hero but never worked 100%.

zachthemaster said:
So, for some reason i was just lurking around the Desire forums... they're seriously hurting, they are way behind in terms of development, compared to the Nexus One. Does anybody know why this might be? Since they're basically the same phone, why isn't the Desire (so to speak) neck and neck with the Nexi?
I know that the Nexus One is like the biggest badass of all the phones, and quite frankly i don't know why i'm even asking this, but i'm curious.
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Nexarse one is a half decent phone, wouldn't say it was neck and neck with the superior desire but its ok considering they are similar. The problem is htc. I suspect a deal has been struck between google and htc giving the google phone a slight priority in terms of software release. Either way it don't matter massivley, because if people want froyo on there desire, they can get it. The same as all those nexus one users who wanted sense on there handsets,(but obviously on a lesser phone
By the way, hows that trackball holding out?

Dunbad said:
Nexarse one is a half decent phone, wouldn't say it was neck and neck with the superior desire but its ok considering they are similar.
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What are you, five? "Nexarse" is sure the height of witticism, just like "windoze" and "micro$oft." Sorry, boy, but the two phones are nearly identical except yours doesn't have a noise-canceling mic. Your fanboyism is wasted; it's like stamping your foot and whining that the HTC Hero is better than the Eris when the two are actually the same phone, with identical internals.
The same as all those nexus one users who wanted sense on there handsets,(but obviously on a lesser phone
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An ex-Apple fan by any chance? Your attitude's similar. And I've yet to hear of anyone's trackball falling out, ahaha. "Lesser"? Paul O'Brien recommends a Nexus over a Desire--he's got both--and I'll take his (much more knowledgeable) opinion over an immature fantard's any time.

I personally don't think development is going that badly, you have to remember the nexus one has 4 months over the release of the desire and it not being a world wide release doesn't help, hopefully things will pick up more when it gets official releases in the USA

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So... five?
Btw, the OP didn't mean it as sarcasm because this thread was originally posted to the Nexus One forums. Durrrrr.

Thread cleaned, show respect to other members rules are there to be followed.
Back on topic.

Easy, the nexus one isn't as locked down as the desire. And because a lot more people have a nexus one.
Sendt with Swype via tapatalk on my Desire.

I would have bought the nexus if it had been available because of the reasons above.
But it wasn't in Holland until now, I really do like Sense and all the fluff it adds, i'm not particularly bothered about banging a Rom onto a new device as far as i can tell it's not broken.

So only my posts get deleted, ok.
Let me try again in a more respectful and polite manner.
My initial response was to what I ASSUMED was abit of a tongue in cheek question. It got a tongue in cheek response together with my answer. It was simple sarcasm. It appears however the op posted this on the nexus forum and it was moved by moderators. The op probably did not even realize it would end up here. My response was wrong to the Equally disrespectful response that I got and apologize to anyone who saw it.

i dont know why dunbad is in trouble here for posting something that was intended to be funny
since when is it that if you post a joke you get some pompous person sitting in front of his computer with a thesaurus, dictating some sort of speech against the inhumanity of a sense of humour?
geez some people really need to lighten up
nexus one and htc desire, pretty much identical hardware wise, the nexus one has a noise cancelling mic, the htc desire has a bit more ram
nexus one runs stock android meaning its highly customizable
htc desire has htc sense which works really well, and is soon to get froyo like the nexus one
the development in the nexus one forums is SO great because youre all trying to get sense on your phones, lets face it it just takes one look at your development section to see that, what does the htc desire ACTUALLY need developed? its already got root, we CAN put whatever we want on, most people dont because it works perfect already. Froyo's readily available from the devs here, IF we want, and anyway we're getting it officially in a few days, so in all honestly, software and development wise, the htc desire wins hands down
easy as that

The nexi is great but I've noticed an issue with the "nexi." That doesn't seem to effect the desire. If you post a thread on xda nexi forum, the post somehow disappears, somehow reappears elsewhere and a little one liner appears in the subject field that says "MOVED". Its really odd. It happens loads. Go check out there general forums. Software maybe? Hardware? A bug perhaps? Don't know but either way the desire doesn't seem anywhere near as badly "effected."
People are saying this or that's better about either phone, but at the end of the day I wish I'd had got a nexi, in these difficult financial times I could have saved some money.
But anyway, I thank cgrec, but I don't see froyo coming to the desire officially anytime soon. I hope I'm wrong. But I'm convinced that this has everything to do with handshakes in smoke filled backrooms between google and htc, froyo will be a few months away yet.i hope I'm wrong.

[Mod request]New forum for cdma WFS

There seems to be a lot of confusion going on between the gsm and cdma versions of the Wildfire S, and people are causing big problems for themselves by not reading(or cant read), plus its also a headache for other users trying to pick thru useless information to get what they need. Maybe a little to late, but is there anyway to split this forum up?

Good idea, was thinking of the same thing to do.
The forum can be split, I've done it on PHPBB3, I don't know whether it works on VBulletin (Isn't that what this forum uses? Correct me if i'm wrong.)

Thirded, would help stop stupid people (like myself) from bricking their phones by flashing the wrong ROM ;_;

I agree, this should be done. I too bricked my first wildfire s after trying to use the "stock roms" listed in the stickied thread at the top of this forum. Stuff in that post is kinda mixed, or mislabeled, or even unlabeled. I don't recall seeing anything about GSM only roms on the few I looked at, but there is a chance I did over look it.
but yes, Wildfire S CDMA thread split!!!!

Idea is gold. Already quasi-bricked one phone

Good idea, will save a lot of hassle and money, in some cases.

sounds like a plan!!!

This is a good idea, even more so bc it appears that a lot of people have jumped on the holiday deals for the Virgin mobile WFS. Please split this thread!

GotsOJ said:
This is a good idea, even more so bc it appears that a lot of people have jumped on the holiday deals for the Virgin mobile WFS. Please split this thread!
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I'm one of those folks but at least I already own an Android tablet so rooting, etc. wasn't a new concept. But since I already lost 5 bucks (not very much I know) purchasing a case for the "other" Wildfire S instead of the Virgin Mobile one I think it's a great idea.
Related question: I searched but perhaps didn't use the correct magic combination of search terms. Is there a thread somewhere that explains the differences between the different versions of the phone? Things like size, location of ports that sort of thing so my case problem will never happen again?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using Tapatalk

bsoplinger said:
I'm one of those folks but at least I already own an Android tablet so rooting, etc. wasn't a new concept. But since I already lost 5 bucks (not very much I know) purchasing a case for the "other" Wildfire S instead of the Virgin Mobile one I think it's a great idea.
Related question: I searched but perhaps didn't use the correct magic combination of search terms. Is there a thread somewhere that explains the differences between the different versions of the phone? Things like size, location of ports that sort of thing so my case problem will never happen again?
Sent from my HTC Flyer P512 using Tapatalk
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The virgin mobile one is called A510c which is a CDMA phone. As you know, CDMA phones don't have a sim card slot. I'm not quite sure about the A510a version. A510b has a slower processor as compared to the A510e which has a 600MHz processor.
Hope this helped!
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I agree with this tread.

In Favor
I would concur. Much like Hero and Hero CDMA or other variants. I tried to port the Euro version over to the CDMA side last night. No working touchscreen; which, sucks when it boots up to a lockscreen Anyway, the devices are quite different.
Rob

Google abandons CDMA (for developer devices)

From techeye:
http://news.techeye.net/mobile/google-abandons-cdma?
CDMA is marked "archived, for reference only"
http://code.google.com/android/nexus/images.html
I guess that finally nails the Verizon Galaxy Nexus as a carrier-phone. Next time buy a truly free & open device (i.e. GSM)
Seriously though. This Galaxy Nexus launch and follow-up has to be the messiest thing I've ever since Google set its foot into. From launch, to providing international release-dates, to US promotion, to handling updates, to releasing buggy updates, to pulling them, to general PR.
It's all been a big ****ing mess.
Is this the sign of the start of the end of the Nexus program or what? Or is leaving closed CDMA networks and carriers behind actually a sign of a new, better start?
Discuss.

Welcome to last week.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Edit: Rootzwiki seems to have something more to offer than the techeye article.
http://rootzwiki.com/_/articles/ann...dma-galaxy-nexus-will-continue-to-update-r374
Still not crystal clear, and definitely falls under my definition of messy PR.
The rootzwiki even has an update, because Google has messed up its correcting response and needs to correct itself, again.

Yeah this is old news. Plus the 4.0.4 update is out for the VZW. What's it like beating a dead horse lol?
Sent from my Gummy Nexus

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479199
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus

Funny thing is how the 'abandoned' device is getting more frequent updates than e officially supported device. We still don't have 4.0.3 officially yet (the last relapse is officially the Nexus S one), and 4.0.4 is CDMA only.
Welcome to last week, BTW.

Omg. Not only does it keep being reposted but by people who don't even understand what's going on and say things like " next time buy a truly free and open device".
Sent from my 'closed' 4.0.4 CDMA Galaxy Nexus.

matt30 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1479199
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Hm. Should have searched the forum better it seems. I didn't find it before posting. Anyway. The conclusion from that thread still seems to be incredibly messy.
Can anyone tell WTH it now does mean to be a "Nexus" device? Ever since the release of the Galaxy Nexus and its "evil" CDMA counter-pair, that definition seems to have been in a flux.

Haesslich said:
Welcome to last week, BTW.
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Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free

http://androinica.com/2012/02/cdma-...l-dev-support-updates-still-come-from-google/
Sent from my Gummy Nexus

josteink said:
Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free
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Don't talk about what you do not comprehend. That is the most ignorant thing I have heard in a long time.
I too can build 4.0.3 for CDMA. So go get educated.

adrynalyne said:
I too can build 4.0.3 for CDMA. So go get educated.
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Good. Reading Google's various statements on the matters it seems like you cannot though, so excuse me for thinking otherwise.
So again. Yay for Google's handling of this

josteink said:
Good. Reading Google's various statements on the matters it seems like you cannot though, so excuse me for thinking otherwise.
So again. Yay for Google's handling of this
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If my understanding is correct, you need to build 4.0.3 with the proprietary files (binaries) contained in a working cdma build of the device (what Google has called "apks"). Since those files are closed source, they cannot be included in AOSP.
Why those cdma files are closed source is a mystery. It could be for legal reasons or it could be because of the way cdma networks communicate with devices (requiring them to have a signature from the carrier embedded in them).
Sent via Galaxy Nexus

The proprietaries are all closed source. GSM included. Looks like Google couldn't obtain a license to distribute is the whole problem. Hence they also axed the factory images, because it was a form of redistribution of them as well.

adrynalyne said:
The proprietaries are all closed source. GSM included. Looks like Google couldn't obtain a license to distribute is the whole problem. Hence they also axed the factory images, because it was a form of redistribution of them as well.
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And cmda (and I guess the proprietary software) is owned by a working group of several different telecom companies.
Sent via Galaxy Nexus

josteink said:
Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free
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how does what feel? unless you are just into foreign flags you will never use a cdma phone from verizon. looking at this logically you are either seeking attention or trolling. either way its sort of pathetic but i guess its winter over there and you havent much to do.

sahakiap said:
how does what feel? unless you are just into foreign flags you will never use a cdma phone from verizon. looking at this logically you are either seeking attention or trolling. either way its sort of pathetic but i guess its winter over there and you havent much to do.
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At first I was trying to get some news out. And discussion about Google's general handling of the Nexus-line this time around and how it hasn't exactly been "optimal".
But I guess that got lost in everyone picking up on the snide remark rather than the rest of the comment.

josteink said:
At first I was trying to get some news out. And discussion about Google's general handling of the Nexus-line this time around and how it hasn't exactly been "optimal".
But I guess that got lost in everyone picking up on the snide remark rather than the rest of the comment.
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Thanks for posting josteink. I hadn't seen it before either. Not sure why everyone is getting their feathers ruffled when you clearly put a smiley face beside the comment. And besides, those that are posting saying it is old news keep bumping the thread...

josteink said:
Thanks. But even skimming the forums several times during the weekend this one never entered the FP of General while I was reading it.
How does it feel? At least we have source access which we can use to build a working phone image, running 4.0.3. Which is more than you can say about the 4.0.4 release.
So yeah, feels good, open and free
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There is no source release of 4.0.4 yet but I have been on 4.0.3 since the day I got my phone.
How does it feel? It feels great to have 32GB of space on my phone and get an average 20Mbps downstream. (At times reaching 40Mbps+)

This isn't old news at all and it is a big deal. A lot of people got screwed here by both Google and Verizon. Not having official AOSP support for developer nexus phone is unacceptable. If there were code distribution issues, then Google should have worked that out way before the official launch. I'm still holding out hope that this will be resolved, but at this point i'd settle for just getting out of my contract and moving over to the GSM variant.
On a related note, I wish CDMA would just fade away into a bad memory.

[REQUEST] AOSP Android 4.0.4 | Stock look, feel, colors | Softbuttons

Hi guys,
I really like this new phone from HTC and I'm seriously considering of buying it. However, even with all the ICS improvements, I still like the original and pure googlish android 4.0 experience more than the new sense. Do you think that a fast, clean and smooth pure-ICS rom will be avaiable soon on the HTC One X? You know...I think HTC published a lot of drivers these days, so I assume it wouldn't be too difficoult to build a clean and simple ICS rom from sources...
Anyway, I hope the answer to this topic will come as a new thread containing directly some interesting download links ;D
Thanks!

A pointless thread in the Developement forum.
I'm sure we will se a CyanogenMod ROM but not because of your request..

Your wish is my command.
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good answer bro

This should be asked in general. Not here.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk

You aren't funny. At all. I come from a wonderful experience within the Nexus development area of xda (I've got a N1), and I wanted to start sharing some ideas here in the mind of getting this HTC in the near future. I guess some people here think to be god only for the higher experience or...whatever, and they enjoy themselves answering like as more as possible.
Overall...yes, you've got a result now. I'll probably get a Galaxy Nexus, but surely not for sense-related tastes... just to avoid the need of talking again with people like you. You could have answered "surely CyanogenMod will fit your needs, buy this awesome device and you won't wait long! ;D", and you would have even so 'closed' the request, but with a smile.
A word is enough to the wise
I don't think you're wise enough anyway. You're spamming answering like that, not me. I've made an answer. Nothing forbidden or...whatsoever.
p.s.:CyanogenMod is still unavaiable for many devices that have gingerbread/ICS very well-developed from other devs. Usually, CM comes months after a stable release (official or not) has been shared. On the N1, we've ICS fully working (incl. HWA), and CM devs said we won't get their 'v.9' almost surely.
That's all.
EDIT: I think people should ask about future developments...to developer. Why should I be answered from the 'general section' users? Why should they know if developers are now or are planning of working on a pure ICS release??

ledoweb said:
Overall...yes, you've got a result now. I'll probably get a Galaxy Nexus, but surely not for sense-related tastes... just to avoid the need of talking again with people like you.
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Are you serious? You buy another device because of 2 people in a forum who tell their opinion?!
Just be honest and tell us that you have never wanted to buy the One X..
A word is enough to the wise
I don't think you're wise enough anyway. You're spamming answering like that, not me. I've made an answer. Nothing forbidden or...whatsoever.
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You do a thread which doesn't fit in the development forum and now this post:
Please tell me who is the real spammer?
I felt a decision: I won't buy the One X, the HTC Wildfire is a better smartphone without so many spamming in the forum there..

Had to get a refund for my One X :-(

Well after days of not being able to make calls in the office via the Suresignal, and after swapping out the phone for a new one, I had to get a refund.
Really wanted to keep this device, but as a business, and not being able to make or receive calls in the office, it had to go, and yes I've been through the turning WIFI off etc, but every other device I have owned seems to be able to connect to wifi and the Suresignal at the same time and make phone calls.
There seems to be an issue with connecting to the Vodafone Suresignal, and HTC didn't know about the issue when I called, and had no help on the matter.
Such a shame....

it might be kind of a shame to add another thread to so many when there is a returns thread. everyone sees you now, though, and there are tons of dupe threads that stay open so i'm sure you can wait around and get some more replies. =]

Don't really understand the need for your post, I made a valid point, one that CPW and HTC seem (or claim) to be unaware of.
After spending just under £500, I think I have reason to gripe.
The one drawback with forums seems to be a global thing across all forums, is that there is always someone that wants to have a pop and say "do a search before posting" etc, but surely a forum is to ask and seek advice, and discuss, not to just search an archive, we may just as well have a searchable database and be done with if that's the attitude.
Why doesn't a mod just move the thread as is the norm if it's that much of an issue?
As I see it, you have not made any constructive additions to the thread at all, does your One X connect to a sure signal, do you have a solution for it?
Some of us don't have hours and hours to trawl through shed loads of threads and search results, and only spend a few short minutes online when work commitments allow.

Just a tip, if your thread is about Sure Signal, put that in the title.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2

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Don't really understand the need for your post
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Haha my phone is fine, get it on a decent network and stop complaining. Don't see the need for your post, complain on a Vodafone web site, and not try to make HTC sound bad, Vodafone network problems if u ask me
HTC is fine.
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

I agree Vodafone networks dodgy sometimes
Sent from my HTC One X using xda premium

Chill out
No need for the hostility, if someone has a solution then help the guy out

Seriously! We were all "noobs" once. Instead of bashing offer help. Sometimes a new user can't always find what they are looking for. Search functions are not always "friendly".
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!

So calls are ok outdoor? When the reception is good? Then it is not phone's problem.
One valid solution, ask your boss to place you closer to window.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

Before you returned ur phone did you upgrade to the newest firmware?
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA

FernBch said:
Seriously! We were all "noobs" once. Instead of bashing offer help. Sometimes a new user can't always find what they are looking for. Search functions are not always "friendly".
My MoPho's in the kitchen sink!!
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Come on man. The OP has been a member since 2009, started a dozen threads and been thanked once. I guess some people give to this community, others just take.
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my HTC one X works perfectly on sure signal.

Albert Poon said:
One valid solution, ask your boss to place you closer to window.
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Lol

brent8577 said:
it might be kind of a shame to add another thread to so many when there is a returns thread. everyone sees you now, though, and there are tons of dupe threads that stay open so i'm sure you can wait around and get some more replies. =]
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I actually agree with this comment.
The OP has RETURNED his phone, hes not posting to ask for a solution before he returns and so isnt actually asking for help to fix something.
If he had been asking for help as a last straw, then yes, a new thread my be a good idea… just stating a fact that hes returned the phone…. kinda pointless
Steve

It's not worth getting bent out of shape over really is it, it's only a phone after all...

Albert Poon said:
So calls are ok outdoor? When the reception is good? Then it is not phone's problem.
One valid solution, ask your boss to place you closer to window.
Sent from my HTC One X using XDA
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I sit where I like, I own the company!

Tomo1971 said:
I actually agree with this comment.
The OP has RETURNED his phone, hes not posting to ask for a solution before he returns and so isnt actually asking for help to fix something.
If he had been asking for help as a last straw, then yes, a new thread my be a good idea… just stating a fact that hes returned the phone…. kinda pointless
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Had 2 phones (and yes updated both), HTC had no idea, Vodafone had no idea, Carphone Warehouse had no idea, so what do you do, leave a £500 paperweight on the desk because it can't make calls like any other device on the market, or take it back within the 30 days to get your £500 back?
I searched....and searched for answers, posted on the VF forum, but nobody had any answers, I wonder just how many of you actually use a device for work, and rely on it for communication, instead of just playing angry birds and posting a Facebook update that you've just bought a can of cola!
I see countless complaint threads about "there's a mark on my device, I want it exchanged" or "my screen creaks" etc etc etc, to me, that's petty, but people deem them to be worthy of much discussion.....

Basil3 said:
Come on man. The OP has been a member since 2009, started a dozen threads and been thanked once. I guess some people give to this community, others just take.
Sent from my HTC One X using Tapatalk 2
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Some people post when they feel they have something to contribute, others just post for the sake of it and actually say nothing....