I found a portal of wholesalers and factories of China and Taiwan
some of them ask for a minimum of 50 pcs of Desire and a few accept to sale a single Desire.
I asked live to a saleswoman about if it's the real original and final HTC Desire and she told me yes.
She told me it will cost me 190$ + DHL and only 4 days delivery time
could this be real or it's a thief?
Sounds a bit suspect? Bit too good to be true?
Look for reviews of the wholesaler on Google and see if they are reputable?
I didn't like the way of payment: Wester Union
vegetaleb said:
I didn't like the way of payment: Wester Union
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Western Union always smells like Scam!!!
It was so good to beleive I can get the Desire for 190$
suspicious
sounds very suspicius - probably it's just a look alike -I have seen many of them on the web for the diamond - diamond 2 etc.
ask if it support two sims - chinese phones usually do - and if it does it's sure a fake
Yes definitevely scammers
I googled the zip code and name they gave me
and they stole many people yet
No original Stuff in China available for us average people
Never trust chinese Companies. None of them have Licence to sell e.g. original HTC Phones/Parts to anywhere in the World.
Any known Company in the World gives legal Certificates and Licences to their Wholesalers.
None of those chinese Wholesalers have any legal base to sell these products to Europe or the US.
Price: How would genuine Brands keep up their pricing poilicy if all those chinese wholesalers would sell cheap stuff to the whole world?
Watch out for Chinese scams!
If you do business with those chinese fraudulents, use paypal in combination with your creditcard. this will give you the advantage of being able to stop the payment when the goods are not delivered, filing a complaint with both paypal and your credit card company.
Also, it will be useful to check out who is the domain registrar/registree using http://who.is/. If the full set of data on the domain (name, adress, telephone etc.) is available, it is less likely that it is a scam. Also look up other people's experiences with the particular seller.
Anyhow, the father of a friend of mine fell in the trap of such a site. After full payment he got a mail from the seller telling him that the Chinese customs would not let the package true and that, if he wanted to receive his goods, he had to bribe them. Of course the Chinese firm offered to do this for him, trying to lure him into transferring more money still. Long story short, it just a scam like the "Nigerian Prince" scams.
Does anyone have any experience buying the HTC Desire from China?
I read that the Nexus One has been cloned. I see no official report that the HTC Desire has also been cloned, but I have noticed a lot of suppliers selling the Desire through Alibaba. I am wondering if these are clones too.
Today I bought an HTC Desire off eBay from China which is supposed to be brand new in the box.
It was rediculously cheap - 50-60% cheaper than the cost of an HTC Desire from a US seller.
Now I am worried it's a clone.
I have protection from eBay PayPal so I should be ok, but I am curious to hear what people think.
Also, does anyone know of a program which will read and tell me the hardware specifications of my HTC? I'm looking for one of those apps like Intel provides to give you the model and serial number of your processor on your PC. I figure this is one way of confirming whether I have a real HTC phone when it arrives.
Any link to the eBay auction?
The "clones" of these high end cellphones in China are pretty fake. They resemble the real ones, but one can easily tell the difference. They definitely don't run android, and run some variation of Linux that is skinned to look like iPhone/WinMo/Android.
Once you have it in hand, it would be very obvious to you whether it is fake, either from the hardware or from the software, so there is no need to use any software to check the hardware specification.
There is no Nexus One/Desire clones that runs real Android or equipped with Snapdragon. Again, if it is a fake, it will be VERY obvious.
Thanks for your reply.
Here is the link.
I will ask the seller to send me pics he took instead of the ones he copied.
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260611334391&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
$170 US for a Desire!! from a zero feedback seller in China.....id never go near such.
I know.
I am betting on eBay and PayPal buyer protection to save me if needed.
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I know.
I am betting on eBay and PayPal buyer protection to save me if needed.
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Judging from the fact that the image is just ripped from some blog site and not even an HTC press release shot, combined with the sellers score: 0. So no sales or even any buys to the account...
I would be very surprised if this guy has even seen a Desire in person, forget you receiving one in the mail from this seller
Is it really worth the trouble?
I can tell you with no doubt, its a fake one! Because even in China, you won't get a real 2nd hand desire at that price.
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Judging from the fact that the image is just ripped from some blog site and not even an HTC press release shot, combined with the sellers score: 0. So no sales or even any buys to the account...
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This alone does not convince me.
When I sell items, I am lazy and rip images and descriptions from other listing.
However, add this to the fact that the seller has no scores...so maybe.
Hmmmmmmmmmmm
If it's too good to be true, it definitely is.
Sent from my HTC Desire
Are you serious when you said you bought it? HTC desire for 170 unlocked..really?
Where I live, I can barely get a dumbphone unlocked for that money.
Well, the picture was taken from some blog and the spec were copied from HTC website. That page alone can't tell whether the phone is real or not.
But as I said before, those Chinese clones of high end phones look really fake, and those Chinese sellers are not trying to scam people into believe that they are real. There is a market for cheap look-alike phones in China, and that market is what those "clones" are for.
People, the $170 final price is the result of an AUCTION, not a buy-it-now price. My bet is that this phone is real, but the fact that the seller is from China, together with the fact that he has 0 feedback, making no one wanted to bid on it. I highly doubt that he will ship you the phone, given how low the final price is. He will probably make up an excuse not to ship you the phone (out of stock, wrong listing, blah blah blah), and then refund you (I you had paid already). If he did ship you the phone, you win. If he shipped you a super fake clone, Paypal will get your money back. The only thing you will lose is time.
I took a chance on a simular "deal" for a HD2 and I was sent a small pink noname brand(actually works, my woman loves it) and a FAKE Iphone 3G. Get you paypal refund info ready.
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Well, the picture was taken from some blog and the spec were copied from HTC website. That page alone can't tell whether the phone is real or not.
But as I said before, those Chinese clones of high end phones look really fake, and those Chinese sellers are not trying to scam people into believe that they are real. There is a market for cheap look-alike phones in China, and that market is what those "clones" are for.
People, the $170 final price is the result of an AUCTION, not a buy-it-now price. My bet is that this phone is real, but the fact that the seller is from China, together with the fact that he has 0 feedback, making no one wanted to bid on it. I highly doubt that he will ship you the phone, given how low the final price is. He will probably make up an excuse not to ship you the phone (out of stock, wrong listing, blah blah blah), and then refund you (I you had paid already). If he did ship you the phone, you win. If he shipped you a super fake clone, Paypal will get your money back. The only thing you will lose is time.
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I had the same thoughts.
I will see what I do.
I have not paid yet and can back out if I like by cancelling my transaction before payment.
I emailed the seller and asked for real pictures, why he is selling, what the serial number is, etc. I will see if he answers.
Unfortunately the seller's English is pretty bad so communicating is difficult.
Thanks everyone for your replies.
HTC doesn't sell cellphones in China offically
ebay buyer protection isn't worth ****. I got screwed when buying a PDA a couple years ago. ebay contacted me and told me not to send payment as his account was suspended. Unfortunately, I already had and received a box with a small rock in it which weighed what the PDA should.
I got about $200 back from ebay but I paid the guy $600.
USE YOUR CREDIT CARD AND YOU'LL BE FINE. THAT'S THE ONLY WAY.
Here are my golden rules for ebay, I hope this helps ....
NEVER buy a 'brand new' phone from ebay. You probably wont ever be able to return it, and might not have any kind of warranty.
Never buy anything from a seller with zero feedback. You simply cannot trust them if they do not have any reputation.
Never buy anything from China (unless you are sure about the seller).
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Here are my golden rules for ebay, I hope this helps ....
NEVER buy a 'brand new' phone from ebay. You probably wont ever be able to return it, and might not have any kind of warranty.
Never buy anything from a seller with zero feedback. You simply cannot trust them if they do not have any reputation.
Never buy anything from China (unless you are sure about the seller).
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Add to this list only buy form China if you think the money is worth the risk
But 170 bucks isnt worth it for me maby for you then take your chances
0 feedback seller from China...
I bought a while ago a Sony headset from China (was dead cheap so gave it a try), the seller had plenty of feedback and I eventually got the headphones. They looked so good, very real. But the sound... was worse than the cheapest pound store ones!! Funny thing is the seller disapperaed from Ebay straight after the paypal payment... no refund for the fakes. I def learned my lesson.
I have seen a lot of this fake seller in china, all of them have 0 feedback or some fake feedbacks. Usually the sell all phones they can in a short period of time, and after that you get nothing and they will delete their ebay account.
I hope this one is not like it
It's one of either two things.
You got scammed and will be sent nothing (Which is what i'm expecting)
Or
You're going to be sent a very very bad nexus one clone.
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-lcd-touch-screen-digitizer-replacement.html
Going to pull the trigger at the end of the week on this one. Only other alternatives are a few Hong Kong suppliers, random Chinese sellers by Google (brrr...) or a particularly overpriced company in the UK selling on eBay.
Prostheta said:
http://www.repairsuniverse.com/samsung-galaxy-s-i9000-lcd-touch-screen-digitizer-replacement.html
Going to pull the trigger at the end of the week on this one. Only other alternatives are a few Hong Kong suppliers, random Chinese sellers by Google (brrr...) or a particularly overpriced company in the UK selling on eBay.
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That's the screen of the SGS 1
Not S2
You're not wrong. This is why I don't let my wife email me links for replacement screens.
Nina tells me that she'll find it cheaper than the prices I have been finding. Oh no says I.
If you want a job doing properly....
Thanks Peter.
I am looking for a smartphone case and Zenus has a few good cases. I searched them on Amazon and some other places and the one I want is currently 40€.
I searched on google for their homepage to see what kind of products they have and I found these two links here
http://izenus.com/
http://www.zenuscase.net/
iZenus sells the case I want for only 11$ while zenuscase sells the same vor 37$. I was wondering if iZenus is legit or maybe just a fake website to steal money from people.
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I am looking for a smartphone case and Zenus has a few good cases. I searched them on Amazon and some other places and the one I want is currently 40€.
I searched on google for their homepage to see what kind of products they have and I found these two links here
http://izenus.com/
http://www.zenuscase.net/
iZenus sells the case I want for only 11$ while zenuscase sells the same vor 37$. I was wondering if iZenus is legit or maybe just a fake website to steal money from people.
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it looks like both are legit. zenuscase.net is the international site. if you look at the 'about us' page, you can see that it is based in Korea, quite open about their company in terms of providing the manufacturing site and so on.
if you scroll to the 'where to buy' section, you can actually see izenus.com is listed under 'USA'. right now, i speculate that zenuscase.net is simply stating the msrp, but like many retailers, the msrp could be ignored and the retailer could set their own prices which i think is what izenus.com is doing. how is this possible? they could be getting the cases at a much cheaper per unit cost plus they could be bulking on their inventory so a quantity discount would apply.
btw, zenuscase.com is the company website, zenuscase.net is the 'shopping portal' for zenuscast.com. izenus seems to serve in USA while zenuscase.net serves globally and hence the higher prices, why? probably greater costs such as land, rent, inventory storage, and so on.
hope this clarifies it up a little bit
I'm not advertising him or anything, if this still counts as advertising pls let me know. :silly:
Anyway, here's a link
Should I buy it from this guy? Considering I don't live in the USA so I pay for shipment and stuff is the price fair?
Thanks :laugh::fingers-crossed:
It most likely is, but there's better aliexpress stores to buy from that guarantee no import costs and tax when in the EU.
Also, really big con when buying from aliexpress. You don't get official support through the OnePlus website, and it's the Chinese model you're buying. That means it doesn't have LTE band 8, or 800mhz. This band is used mostly for getting LTE in houses and outside of the city. Aliexpress has 0 stores that sell the European model. That's why, even though shipping time is longer and the price is slightly higher, I still ordered from the official OnePlus website.