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I have to admit that it was by mistake (actually I was looking to get rid of the t-mobile phone skin) that I stumbled over a nice way to get 10MB more program memory out of the MDA Pro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin
"Enabled"
Change from "1" to "0"
as a result of that, you cannot make videocalls anymore, but you can change this setting back within 2 minutes...(resco reg editor brings up the latest entry at startup so its right there, and then warm reset) and the ugly t-mobile skin is gone and replaced by the original nice blue windows skin.
I also squeezed 3 MB more by installing the ext.ROM of the qtek instead the one of t-mobile, since qtek is just 0.5MB vs 3.5MB from t-mobile. I did not really find a difference in performance.
Does anyone know of any similar "simple" tricks that would release more memory? at what ever price, but everyone has different needs, so it may be an option for some people?
check the WIKI!!! weve added alot of WM5 reg tweaks to it now, mainly making teh phone to what was expected when getting it out of the packaging!!
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Registry
Actually I have (and that is where the the phone skin thing comes from)
but it did not mention that not only you loose the skin but also the video phone feature and gain 10MB..so actually I am wondering if this happened to me only because I am using the combination of t-mobile ROM and qtek ext.ROM??
and then: none of the reg hacks in wiki seem to free up some RAM (at least as far as I can tell..but I really am just a little better reg. user, I cannot write one line of code...)
When you say your program memory increased by 10 Mb, does it mean that you now have 55 Mb of memory avalable?
I have a Jasjar and i recently hard-reset my device. When the Ext.Rom was about to install, i soft-reset the device. My device i now 40% faster, and i am NOT exaggerating. All the bloatware from i-mate didn't get installed which is perhaps the reason the Jasjar is working as fast as any other device, SIMPLY SUPERB.
@Andy,
When i go to "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin ", i get 2 folders with further sub folders and one entry.
The 2 folders are:
1) Dialer (with further subfolders such as Landscape and Portait etc)
2) Progress
The last entry available is "default which has no value set".
I don't see any entry that plainly says "Enabled". Solution?
I've been harping on about the curse of the phone dialer skin since writing VJBigPhone. I was forced to install the skin etc for compatibility, and it makes such an enormous difference, slows things down so much. If you don't care for the bubbly buttons, remove it ASAP. You'll have much faster screen rotations and generally feels snappier.
Also clears up unsightly rashes
V
Trust me, after resetting the device prior to Ext.Rom installation, my Jasjar is now BLAZING fast and in now way is this an exaggeration.
@universaldoc:
you see, I have two more entries on that page. below this default string comes the dword "enabled" entry that has to be switched from 1 to 0. and below that one comes the string phcanhtc.dll
What I am observing, is: I did an installation prior to this one, with no ext ROM. that gave me the same amount of program memory as I am having now. the difference is only, that now I have some functions that were missing when I did not install ext rom, for instance I did not have the voice commands. and also not the video calling, same as now.
So what I think is: since you did not install the ext ROM, maybe that is the reason why you do not have these registry entries....because there is nothing to disable, since it was not installed at all? what do i know...lol..
and to answer your other question: my MDA Pro has 50MB of program memory, this value remains unchanged. But, with the skin enabled, I had 17MB (!) after warm reset...(1900 contacts, a few today plug.ins)...and it was hardly viable. And now i have 27....so much better.
Also: i have the latest (german) t-mobile rom (1.20), i find it much more stable than the first one which was terrible. and the qtek wasn't bad either.
(german version too)
Well after taking a rough guess into what all the bmp's are for the dialler and that awquard quickdial pad thing i get around 1.4mb of images the the portrait and landscape backdrops 500k between them, shame they aint removed totally!! that would give 2mb more rom to use.
Someones got to sort a nbf editor out! *wink plz!!! i'd really like to be able to make a rom with all MY apps and layout in it
phcanhtc.dll is surlly whats causing it, what else does that call on, can anyone dicect it?
I also tried a rotate whilst on the phone screen and its dam near instantanious
and tbh i actually quite like this skin, simple, does what it says on the tin.
I use pocket informant 2005 for dialling out normally non frequent numbers, and use the phone app to just do most common numbers from the call history.
non the less its an odd way to get more performance, i like it
Hi Andy,
Thanks for the response.
You might be absolutely right. Since i didn't install the Ext. Rom in the first place, i don't have these entries. Also, at present, i have 27Mb of program memory free which is exactly what you have I was thinking that you actually got 37Mb of memory free which IMO would be Fan-bloody-tastic!!!
Thanks anyways.
AndyME said:
I have to admit that it was by mistake (actually I was looking to get rid of the t-mobile phone skin) that I stumbled over a nice way to get 10MB more program memory out of the MDA Pro:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Phone\Skin
"Enabled"
Change from "1" to "0"
as a result of that, you cannot make videocalls anymore, but you can change this setting back within 2 minutes...(resco reg editor brings up the latest entry at startup so its right there, and then warm reset) and the ugly t-mobile skin is gone and replaced by the original nice blue windows skin.
I also squeezed 3 MB more by installing the ext.ROM of the qtek instead the one of t-mobile, since qtek is just 0.5MB vs 3.5MB from t-mobile. I did not really find a difference in performance.
Does anyone know of any similar "simple" tricks that would release more memory? at what ever price, but everyone has different needs, so it may be an option for some people?
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Hi AndyME
Thanks for this tip. I applied this to my Dopod 900 (Universal sold in Singapore) and my RAM increased from 20M to 27M.
I might just do a hard reset and then follow universaldoc's suggestion of soft-resetting before any Dopod bloatware installs.
On the whole I am happy with the performance of this device as it is now, especially since I upgraded the Radio to 1.60.00.
i a mglad it was useful for you. you can always check the difference between this way and the reset as per universaldoc and see what suits you better.
Hard-resetted my jasjar
Soft-resetted before extRom installation
Result is: everything is working better, from signal level, to phone calling, to internet browsing. Thanks for the tip!
I'm interested to know you guys. I've always done the ext rom skip, but do you find it has any effect on your use of Voice Command. I'm suspicious why someone who didn't do the skip, but is using the same headset, doesn't have the problem I have, whereby the audio gateway is left open and I can't close it by pressing the headset button.
V
when I once skîpped ext rom, i noticed that voice command seemed not to have been installed (at least I did not see it in the programs)
now, that i just disable the phone skin, i feel i get all the benefits the others are reporting, but i have full voice control support.
but i have installed a qtek ext rom on a t-mobile rom, as mentioned above, and the qtek is just 500 kB while t-mobile is 3.5MB
so it is probably anyway difficult to say what is the content of the various ext roms, they can be quite different i would guess...
I have actually 30mb on reset, if I disable my auto starts, it drops down to 26mb on boot up when I am running:
1. M$ Voice Command (cant get rid of the old, but dont use it)
2. SPB PP (beta 3.1), SPB Diary (latest), and SPB Weather
These are my today plugins and startup folder.
I also skipped the extended rom entirely, and then selectively installed the bits I wanted using total commander to copy the specific extended rom items i wanted, and the phone wasnt one of them, I dont know anybody with the video bit anyway.
Dont use the antivirus...
I think your bluetooth problem might be rectified by te .cab noted as SSD BTUR_Patch_for_BT.
Without the extended rom, and few of the other registry tweaks, I get awesome memory, awesome startup, awesome screen rotations, never hangs except for 3rd party apps, never misses an sms, rings at the beginning of the first ring.
Yes, I agree, the phone video things sucks heaps of resources, skip it if you dont use it.
Mind you, after a day of hardwork, wifi, internet, lots of mail and playing, it does drop down towards the 20 - 15mb mark, but overall, I am happy with it...
So in summary, just skip the rom entirely, and consider just your bluetooth patch file.
simon, what other registry tweaks are you recommending?
Hi all,
allow me to jump in on this subject. Just did another hard-reset this morning to build a new system fromscrap as I had a huge problem (memory was used by whatever and I did not get further then the today screen).
I am using the Jasjar 1.13.53 WWE and have an empty ExtROM. I noticed that if I only install the .cab for BT (SSD_BTUR_Path_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa) I get stuck without the smart-dialing. For me it only starts working if I install to more .cab files :
Signed_eCall_vMail.sa and
Default_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed
I am having a system which has 30 M free on startup, but only until I start using ASync to get my contacts and calender in, the system immediately drops down to 24MB after that.
Do You guys know another way of getting the smart-dialling working except for the above mentioned .cab-files ? I do not need the video-call at all, wouldn't miss is at all, so would very much like to get more speed excluding it at all. On the other hand I do not like the original dial-skin and would like to overwrite it with the ones from Vodafone.
Is such combination possible ?
Ruud
Ruud, I am afraid, I cannot help you..but it is always so frustrating to get no replies...
i have a VPA iV too (MDA Pro was lent for 3 months only and i will have to return it), i understand what you are talking about, the voda skin is sooooo cool...i asked VJ and he told me that:
"You can grab themes by find the *.tsk files in the \windows\ folder. While you're there, grab all the *.gifs and *.bmps that you can. You should be able to reassemble all the themes from there."
since this was only yesterday, i have not had the time yet to do it. i will try though.
also: on buzzdev.net there is a downloadable skin that is basically the voda skin..unfortunately when i installed it over the default windows skin (the naked blue one) it did not really work. try for yourself...
I have so far kept the vodafone installation as is, it has a very small ext rom of just 2-300 kB, and just removed the skin enable command in the registry which brought 10MB same as on the MDA Pro. (and I do not see the beautiful phone skin anymore...
Why actually did you not keep the voda installation? I think the new (german) t-mobile 1.20 is more stable, but it is definitely better than the old t-mobile was. is it your feeling that jasjar is better than voda?
Hi AndyME,
First of all, I have a vodafone because of my contract with them in Germany, but I am actually a Dutch guy living in Russia. There is no need for the German language, actually I do not like any other language then English for everything in electronics, specially software.
My hope that the device would be multiple language was gone at the moment I unpacked my package. So I used the website here to change to english.
I have all the .gif, .jpg and .bmp from the vodafone installation kept for backup purposes, but had to change them to fit to the iMate size. Also not all the transperency is working like I wanted.
Do You know the .cab file necesssary for just changing the skin ?
It is quite some work to install each of them seperately, softreset and if they do not do the trick, do a hard-reset before You try the next. I found out that the combination of the two I mentioned before helps, but maybe I need this DiscoButton as well ?
I have asked this question before, but did not get an answer, does somebody know what thedifferent .cab-files are for ?
MASD_Enable_VT_RTPlugin_0727_2_signed
MASD_Ringtone_GER_reg_0727_signed
MASD_UXC_DE
MSD_CAB-Customization-VodaDE-Universal-01-05-20Sep05
MSD_CAB-Shortcut-Voda-9Aug05
Signed_AddFavorite_DE
Signed_Connection_GER
Signed_DisableSL
Signed_DiscoButton8.sa
Signed_eCall_vMail.sa
Signed_pIE_About
Signed_PortalDefault
Signed_RemoveFav
Signed_SSD_BTUR_Patch_For_BT_Cannot_Initial.sa
Signed_SSD_Shortcut_GER
Signed_UAProf
Signed_Version
Signed_VodaDE_MNN.sa
regards,
Ruud
Firstly I am not having a go at any of the ROM creators here - just trying to understand what is going on with my device.
I have O2 Orbit, have used O2-WM5, B&B and now O2-WM6. Using Navigon 6.2 installed on SD card.
I am route planning for holidays and have a route that is a 3 hour route with 1 waypoint. I created this route when running O2-WM5. With B&B i cannot get the saved route to load, and often I will get a memory issue and be asked to close other apps (normally phone is the only other open). Tried using overlocker in case it was processor issue - no joy.
I reverted to O2 - WM5 and it works, upgraded to O2-WM6 it works. What is the difference with the B&B Rom? Is this related to Ext-ROM or lack of? Do all the HTC-home and theme take too much memory?
Thoughts and advise appreciated - and if there is a nice looking WM6 ROM that someone can recommend I would appreciate a link!!
emul
Thoughts about Navigon on Mobiles
Hi!
I am facing the same problems (Navigon 6.1 on an O2MiniS, WM5). Only the simplest functions work -- as long as nothing else is done with the phone.
I have not had a chance to try this out, but this is advice I got:
a) use a faster (mini)sd-card. Amongst others, Transcend sells fast cards. Navigon does not advice doing this, but tells me I can try.
b) remove all superfluous maps from the card.
c) install the program so it runs from your mobile -- not from the card.
Let us know how you are faring!
Bob
Okay so this may be a Navigon issue rather than WM5 / WM6 / B&B ROM. I am going to try tomorrow to flash a clean rom, install no programs nor synch with laptop and see what happens then.
Currently with O2-WM6, synched (500 contacts / 100 email) the route planning "works" after a 60 sec delay before completing calcs from point a to b and then again from b to c..!!
Will let you know how it goes.
Thanks
Eoin
Hello,
i have the same Problem. At all cooked ROM with more RAM MN6 are not Display the Route and crash. With orginal ROM and ROM with low RAM MN6 perfekt work.
Is there already a solution?
heross
I have never been able to resolve it. As a workaround I now use Hibernate before MN6 which seems to clear enough memory. If you find any answers let me know.
Eoin
heross said:
Hello,
i have the same Problem. At all cooked ROM with more RAM MN6 are not Display the Route and crash. With orginal ROM and ROM with low RAM MN6 perfekt work.
Is there already a solution?
heross
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I've been playing with various satnavs over the weekend, all on the standard Dopod WM6 ROm... the following all worked, using UK maps, and planned a route from Suffolk to Lancashire (250 miles):
TomTom 6.02 and 6.03
Navigon MN6
Route66
iGo MyWay
My thoughts on them are as follows:
Navigon: Too slow, graphics unclear, not enough features
iGo: Not bad, but still junt missing a few bits
Route66: A serious contender, but you cant view your route easily or manually modify it or avoid areas. Speed Camera warnings are absolutely brilliant though, and performance is fast.
TomTom: Definitely the best overall - if it had free traffic and speed cam implemetation lice Route66, it would be a complete no brainer. As it is, the ability to avoid sections of routes etc and subscribable traffic if needed make it my personal preference.
If you need info on how to get hold of TomTom, PM me!
try that one...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=316058&highlight=donothing.zip
it worked for me.
good luck
THX,
cleaninstall of MN6.0-> deinstall->update to MN6.2->install MN6.2 have solve the Problem.
MEMORY error is definitly a ROM version problem. Try a fast ROM like Vanilla 2.0 or Stripped HTC WWE ROM --> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334810
Navigon need a lot of memory ~about 15mb free to run. I don't know if it's fixed with last update. I think that they are going to build more and more PNA and less PDA softwares updates. If you can try UPX4PDA That can compress your .EXE and .DLL, I 've done it for TOMTOM, .EXE ist now 920 Kb (before 2,30 Mb).
Anyway Navigon and iGO look nicer than TOMTOM, but TOMTOM run faster on PDA (with 200Mhz Processors). Gonna see with next generation with VGA and 400 Mhz proc.
hi,
I am readin with interest your post on the UPX4PDA.....
where do I find this app and does it improve noticably the performance of the application??
UPX4PDA really no matter for RAM problem.
Because once you launch your apps, it self decrompress it into memory and restoring it's original size.
With this tool, you'll only gain spaces on ROM and maybe quickest launch.
Only space and no speed gain.
bozboz said:
UPX4PDA really no matter for RAM problem.
Because once you launch your apps, it self decrompress it into memory and restoring it's original size.
With this tool, you'll only gain spaces on ROM and maybe quickest launch.
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IMO it would be useful to compare the new WM6 ROMs regarding the memory leaking. I mean mainly the ROMs with Home Plugin and/or Cube, because they proved to be quite memory hungry.
I think the latest versions should be counted: Tom's B&B 4.3, Meschle's Touch 3.0 and/or 3.01, and Vanilla 2.0, Bepe's build 0.53, maybe Fracoon's 2.2 too. But every experience on any rom regarding RAM decrease can be interesting.
I launch this thread because, as I see, this problem is the weakest point of many cooked rom (and maybe of the official versions too). So, let's say: after a half-day-long usage, without soft reset but running e.g. Tomtom, Windows Messenger, Ms Office, any music player etc. how much free Program memory (RAM) do you have? (Before measuring close all programs and run Hibernate once.)
I konow it's impossible to have an exact picture since every PDA is different, some owner-installed programs can be a big memory-consumer, but anyhow, sharing our experience might show some tendencies and help us to choose the ROM nearest to our needs.
So I begin:
Currently using Tom's 4.3, after half a day of normal usage it's around 18-19 M (from 25). -- IMO it's not bad, I've heard about far bigger leakage.
My previous rom was HTC official WM6 (3.13.405.1 WWE) it also started with around 25 M and 'ended' with 20 M. (but it doesn't have Cube).
cheers,
I've tried with meschel artemis touch 2.1 lite with cube and 3.0 lite with cube.
about 12.5 MB with first one and about 19.8/20 with other.
Great work, meschle!!!
Bye
I had Meschle's Premium Plus w/o cube and it averaged about 16-17Meg. Now I've got the Touch 3.01 and I get as low as 13Meg but I'm also running MS Voice Command which is a huge memory hog. If I didn't have MSVC I would prob still be at 16-17Meg with the programs I have running. The official WM5 P3300 ROM left about 18-19Meg avail on average.
You need to run hibernate!
I have tried different ROMs and found a workaround which up to now is not very convenient but effective: Use "Hibernate" after closing each application oder settings tab. This small app is included in many cooked ROMs, it releases memory.
First thing I do after a soft reset is using hibernate since it releases about 1-1.5 MB and that gave me at best times 28 MB RAM, I think that was with B&B v3.0 GER.
I think it is possible to combine the X-Button with hibernate through MortScript. MortScript is a Scripting tool for WM and can automate certain things, since you have to be familiar with programming and need a lot of patience I still didn't try it.
I don't know if Wisbar is able to perform two tasks when pushing the X Button. Then you could assign it to closing the app and then starting hibernate. Maybe I will ask the programmer if he will produce a version without the window that shows up every time, then it would be perfect.
I assigned hibernate to one of my buttons, when I close big apps I always run hibernat.
Registerme said:
I assigned hibernate to one of my buttons, when I close big apps I always run hibernat.
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Yes, I also often use Hibernate. I assigned it with HButton to teh OK/Close button (first function: close; scond: Hibernate).
I assumed that almost everyone use it, that's why I suggested in the first post that even the measuring should be after closing all apps and applying Hibernate.
Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?
Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.
chalid said:
Use one of the ROMs with Manila2D cooked into. Its far better than installing it afterwards.
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I Confirm!!!!
I was wondering if we could get Manilla running faster converting Manila2D.exe (1MB) or its dlls into module...
mosec said:
Hi, everyone on the forum, I was wondering if you were having trouble making manilly2d work smoothly on your trinities. My trinity becomes relatively sluggish and free memory drops pretty soon. When trying to use gps software it locks, freezes etc. Same with Opera browser.
How are your Trinities handling great looking manilla2d?
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ROMS with Manila cooked in work only slightly slower, not enough to bother me at all. I think it all depends on what 3rd party software you then install on top.
The trick is either finding a Manila ROM which more or less everything you need it already (like Ervius's ROMS) or naked ROMS which have only the minimum (like Chalid's ROMS).
Also, I recommend using Mpenguin14's "M2DC (Manilla 2D Customizer)" to get rid of the Manila tabs at that the bottom that you don't really need. This reduces memory consumption and therefore improves performance. Some cooks are putting it into their ROMS, but there is a cab you can download too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427392
Mattster.
Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.
mosec said:
Thanks for all the advice I allready noticed beter performance with album and audio player tab turned off but nevertheless it seems slower.
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I gave up on manilla and htc home. The clock can be replaced by PDC, weather by spb weather(there's probably a lighter solution though), app launcher by the start menu(people usually don't use a wide variety of apps, start menu can list the latest which will do just fine), sms/mms/calendar/tasks by the respective native plugins.
All the other apps are cute but useless, like, you already have a speed dial on the phone app, as for media just launch the respective apps.
manilla on trinity
Hi, I am happily running chalid's rom with Manilla2d - meaning that it runs correctly but can become quite slow (for example, A2DP skips if i keep wifi or other programs in the background). The problem, in my opinion, is not Manilla but...our trinity. The low amount of RAM makes any program which is consuming memory running slowly and/or lacking responsiveness. Try Igo8, for example, and plan a long route...this is true beyond manilla, and the less memory you have free, the more sluggish it becomes...
I came to the empirical conclusion that TNYYNT Roms are faster simply since he is keeping memory consumption/allocation low, and this is why Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
My conclusion: upgrade to touch HD ! it is the obvious way to improve the trinity: better screen, better CPU, better RAM....
lately i been using PDAviet ROM .44 and the manila user interface is relly fast and pleasant to use - the only think that I'm craving for is more RAM in the device
All is well if one application is running but have a few open and the sistem will complain
One thing that I see with this ROM is that if you start a memory intensive application - like opera 9 or your tube or tom tom it will close the ManilaUI temporarly and restart it automatically when you close the application so everything runs fast - but only one thing at the time
pzucchel said:
Chalid's 0.8 is faster than any other manilla2d i've tried. For example, i was not able to run tomtom efficiently on ervius' rom - but it ALMOST works correctly with chalid's (which is based on TNYYNT as you know).
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Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.
I switched back to a non manilla2d rom and my trinity is flying again! Windows are opening fast and overall performance is better, igo 8 works without crashing. Manilla looks great but I'm gonna hold back for now! Bye all
64M Ram a problem, but here is a work around
pzucchel has raised the main issue- it's not the code, the ROM the M2D or iGO8. Our Trinity is only 64M RAM, and with operating system, if we have 25-27M free RAM we are lucky. Running M2D will normally eat up 10M or so more. With careful memory management it will not slow down our phone. however it will not allow to have M2D as a today plug-in and run iGO8...
Having M2D in the cooked ROM helps a bit as far as speed (not significant) but will not help in memory management. So that was the *****ing part of the post. now let's have a work around. It is not a solution- yet it will allow us to enjoy M2D and iGO8 without getting crazy, and without a need to reset the phone 7 times a day...
1. Install a naked ROM. Look for ones that allow 25M free RAM after installation. There are few of them. If they are naked+M2D and leave 20M free, it is good enough. Having M2D in the ROM means no M2D updates possible. Having M2D installed manually means lots of work and a bit slower performance- each one knows what's best for himself.
2. install SKTOOLS 4.4.1 (Buy it! it worth the investment). Optimize to maximum memory. Our good old trinity works fast enough even with this setup. Also- turn shadow services on to free RAM. Don't mess up with anything else there. We are after more free RAM ONLY !
3. Install mToday. It's a small nifty free tool, that allows the user to switch easy between today plug-ins. Set M2D on one screen, and iGO8 on the 2nd one. Assign a key for mToday so by a push of a button you can switch M2D off and get iGO8 plug in on... For the lazy ones I am attaching it.
4. Make sure the following lines are in your sys.txt in the IGO8 folder. I mean the one in main memory under program files, not the SD folder, although for recovery purposes, make them both identical:
[debug]
cache=2048
reserve_memory=1500000
[navigation]
sim_speed_factor=3
True- it still will not allow using TTS , but that is kind of pushing the limits of the phone. I could use TTS if I turn the phone off, kill 3G and GPRS, push no mail, etc. but after all if I wanted a GPS device only, I could have bought one..
5. For TomTom users- same thing - kill M2D using mToday and keep running it. I did not try TT7 but TT6 was very much an easy run on the trinity, before I moved to iGO8.
Special thanks to the cookers, current and the ones who left this forum, for their dedication, time spent for this community, and insight. I am merely a tester, and I hope this post will make some other trinity users happy campers.
Cheers
BigE
I had no problems running the WWE evirus rom with M2D and Tomtom7
Mattster_spv said:
Hi Pzucchel.
Thanks for your advice the other day on sd cards.
I have a new Kingston 4GB Micro SD (SDHC) Card coming tomorrow and going to reinstall Tomtom 6 onto it. Then I have to pick a ROM! I love the Manila 2D interface, have tried practically all of the current ROMS, but I can't have Tomtom letting me down.
When you say Tomtom ALMOST works on Chalid's, what happened? Did it come out of the program half way through a journey?
And on Ervius' Rom... were you not even able to start Tomtom?
Mattster.
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I have no problem running tomtom7 and igo8 with chalid's 0.8rom.
but before i run igo, i have to close all running apps first.
like bigE mentioned, invest in SKTools. It's a great utility. I have its "free ram" apps as one of my shortcut. i always run it bfore i run any gps apps.
iGO8 and M2D- is it really running together?
rockuman_ex,
Yes, iGO may seem to work with while M2D is on, but, is it really? Here are some observations:
1. Choose to calculate a 1,000 mile away destination when they both are on - even with SKTOOLS I am running out of memory for iGO.
2. Have them both run, and try answering a call at the same time. Even with 1.5M reserved for 'non iGO' use in the sys.txt - most likely phone will freeze.
I have no experience with TT7. I have abandoned TT for iGO because I am travelling to destinations I could not have maps for TT in the TT6 era. I have got spolied by iGO and can't go back to TT, although I have to admit TT is making more sense for the trinity. But like all of us- I want it all...
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick. Oh well- that is what we call experience, learning from mistakes...
BigE said:
rockuman_ex,
I regretfully think that in the near future I will go with another HTC phone, waiting for AT&T to offer the HD here in the US. I have spent around $700 for the trini about 18 months ago, no realizing 64M will kill me so quick....
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I'd say these days, 18 months with one phone is pretty good
Hi All,
First of all BRILLIANT website ... keep the good work up guys ... please bear with me with a few question that i have no idea about. Thought i'd put this all in one thread rather than 4 different ones:
1) Does it actually matter which cab file (i don't know what you call it ExtRom? please let me know what exactly you call it so it's easier for me to search for in the future) to use with which version of OS? Currently i'm on WM6.5 Build 23004 WWE R7.1 and i think i downloaded some can file from WM6.1 or something
2) Where can i find TouchFlo for WM6.5 Build 23004 WWE R7.1?
3) I installed the HTC Manila2d on my XDA iis but can not seem to find it any where, do i need to install something else besides this to be able to view the application
4) Most of the time when the backlight goes off on my XDA IIs, i press the power button to bring the screen back up only to find that the screen has gone white and then i have to reset my XDA a couple of times ... to get it working i have to make sure that i'm constantly working on some app for a good few minutes before i leave the screen light to go off
Would appreciate if you can help me with this. Many thanks in advance.
1. yes it most certainly does. if you had upgraded to wm6.1 and tried an extrom of wm6.5 you would probably be disappointed that some of the programs like internet explorer, office or wm6.5 specific stuff wouldn't work. the extrom is a bunch of cabs to install certain programs after a hard reset. that's why you should have a look inside the extrom and maybe google some of the cab names and decide, whether you relly need them or not. for example, if you never use java, mss, or pdf documents, leave jbed, arcsoft and adobe reader out of the extrom and save a lot of space on your device. in general, the rom chef gives a link to the extrom, fitting the rom best, but i think the last official extrom, released by a chef was with xplode's 21202. that is the one you want to take for the newest internet explorer and office and other useful stuff.
2. what? touchflo in general means... nothing. there are 3 aspects of touchflo: touchflo3d (=Manila2d), touchflo cube and sometimes touchflo is also referred to, when it comes to finger friendlyness and touch scrolling.
to be short, the touch scrolling is always on in wm6.5 and it is also quite finger friendly. about the rest... forget it.
3. you know, manila 2d is sooo 2008
manila2d is, as you might know, opticly comparable to an animated version of htc home with a bunch of extra features, and also, like htc home (or the above mentioned touchflo cube) it is improving the today screen of wm6 and wm6.1 devices. it might also work on wm6.5, but for that to be even remotely possible, you have to lose the titanium home (default today screen plugin of wm6.5, with the sliding and all...) so go to start->settings->today->items and unselect windows default and then manila might work for you, which still begs the question:
why would you want manila when you can have titanium?
manila is slow & outdated (if you ever even get it to work, most versions won't do on the BA), while titanium is new, modern, highly customizable, hip, trendy and most important of all, works extremely fast on the BA.
4. ok, assuming that you already checked the backlight and power settings, that leaves a few other things to check:
- does it also do the white screen, if you press the power button in the first place, to switch it off and then turn back on?
- did you do anything in the upgrade process differing from "the book"?
- did you try a hard reset? if you just upgraded, you have nothing to lose?
even more stuff would come to mind, but first post back if any of the things are done so far.
greetz
Chef_Tony
Hi Chef Tony, mate honestly i really do appreciate taking your time and explaining this what was once all french to me. Ok i totally get the idea of ExtRoms and Cab file. So assuming that if i use one of the 6.1 cab files on a 6.5 it should work correct?
Apparently i downloaded Manila2D from this forum, installed it but that didn't work ... i went to start->settings->today->items and unselect windows default and but it comes up as blank screen (home screen) and also i could see TouchFlo as an option and when i select that it takes me back to the home screen saying "Tap here to activate TouchFlo", no matter how many times i tap, nothing happens. So correct me when i say this, this TouchFlo which was showing up on the options is actually a Manila2D app right? I saw a video last night on youtube which said TouchFlo on XDAiis (sorry but can't find the exact link to it) and it looked something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJFBifvgSgA i mean the interface and the screen tapping.
As far as the screen is concerned, it never used to do this but since i've upgraded to 6.5 it has started to. I followed the exact same process what the book said because i'm the sort of a person who follows the book and nothing besides that ... besides i've hard rest it as well but that still did not help. Ok here's what happens (i think), when the device is battery powered, it will white screen when the device is not used for a few minutes (sleep mode or whatever you may call it) but it does not happen when it's on external power because it's always on any way.
in general an extrom from wm6.1 would work on wm6.5 flawlessly. but as mentioned before, the versions of the internet explorer and office changed dramatically. you should include the newer cabs there.
this tap here to activate touchflo is exactly the manila, and normally it should start up then, but as mentioned before, there is no guarantee, every version would work with the BA, but i had a version once, that worked in general, it was just a little slow and some features wouldn't work, which is perfectly normal. you should have a look at this thread and maybe try the versions given there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340932&highlight=iolite
also you'll find other neat stuff there.
if you really want manila as your GUI, maybe you should try a nice wm6 or wm6.1 rom, because manila is really sucking cpu and ram, and with most wm6.5 roms those resources are optimized for titanium and even with titanium switched off, they just consume more hardware than wm6.1 for instance. it will run better then.
but your last sentence there is confusing me. what exactly do you mean, when you say white screen? is it actually showing all white, with backlight, or is it more like the display is off, a pale grey without backlight? if it is the first option, it seems there is actually a tiny problem there, could be together with manila, back in the day, when i ran it, i experienced sort of a third boot splash screen with manila installed and the device would take forever to boot up, soft resets were a major buzzkill then.
if it is the 2nd option, then it is perfectly normal and you can go to start->settings->system->power and set the device to never switch off on battery power, but instead just switch off the backlight.
last but not least (ok, i should have written this above): the video you posted!
the first 48 seconds don't show any manila stuff, that is called s2u2, slide 2 unlock a keylock app, you can download for free, from another forum member here, called A_C, on his site here: http://s2u2.ac-s2.com/ (all credit to A_C)
i wouldn't exactly count on the photo and video function to work on a BA either, as shown about 1:20
at 1:50 the youtube app is not part of manila either, but you can download something like that here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385227 or the official one here: http://help.youtube.com/support/youtube/bin/topic.py?hl=en&topic=20991
i really wonder what the last app was, he showed, since i don't have sound at the moment, i can't tell whether he mentions it maybe, but probably doesn't matter anyway, because you are not looking for a paint clone, but for a nice GUI
hope this could bring you a little bit further in getting your device customized. let me know, whether everything worked out as planned.
Chef_Tony
Hi Chef Tony,
Trying Titanium on Xplode's v7.1 but cannot get my normal Today plugins selected - Pocket Breeze, Device lock, Comms, and a Programme Bar.
Is there an easy way to do this? (In M2D customisation you can set the Today page plugins...)
Thanks.
the titanium blocks everything else.
when you go to start->settings->today->items you see, by default, there is a list of a lot of plugins, but the only one that is checked is the titanium home, there called "Windows Default" for instance date and time is unchecked, which does not mean, you don't see the time in your today screen as a clock is also part of titanium. if you decide to work with m2d or other normal today plugins, you need to uncheck Windows default and then you will have access to the old today screen with the static, yet small, list of items. and then you have the opportunity to use all your today plugins. if you want to use titanium home and have plugins for that look for "titanium plugins" or "chome plugins".
and the plugins of titanium can be monitored, sorted and (de-)activated in "titanizer"
all those things in " " can be found in the forum, just have a look in development & hacking section or use the forum search