Hi,
I have found instructions on preparing your Mem card so that you can always keep installed apps with ext2/3 etc, but what if i have installed apps before this, is there anyway of converting what i have already so that i dont lose them. I am running the latest recovery image and tried Hikiris Rom, but have gone back to modaco 2.9?
Thanks in advance.
I believe the Modaco ROMs will automatically move all your existing apps over to the SD card once it is appropriately partitioned.
I could be wrong though, as I don't bother with A2SD.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
I believe the Modaco ROMs will automatically move all your existing apps over to the SD card once it is appropriately partitioned.
I could be wrong though, as I don't bother with A2SD.
Regards,
Dave
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How do you move the ext 2/3 apps over to another card? I want to move over to a different higher capacity card now.
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Can't seem to find a definate answer......i have just rooted my phone again and tried a few custom roms.....do i need to format my sd card with Froyo to use Apps2sd?
Cheers.
jpopgt said:
Can't seem to find a definate answer......i have just rooted my phone again and tried a few custom roms.....do i need to format my sd card with Froyo to use Apps2sd?
Cheers.
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do you mean the new native froyo apps2sd or the old style? if you mean the new one no, the old one you just have to format your ext partition, unless you dont have one, then obviously you would have to format to create a new ext partiton
Thanks for the reply
I ment the native froyo apps2sd......
I have downloaded a few apps to try and none have the option to move to SD card....they are greyed out.
Does this mean they are not updated yet to sent to SD card or maybe i need to use other steps to do this?
Can you tell me a free app that can be used on SD card so i can try please.
Cheers.
i heard theres a problem with either htc's new kernel or the new build of froyo not letting you save apps to a sd card, try leedroids or udk's roms as they use older builds and kernels or try this app see if it works, just set the install location to external
Thanks!
I installed Leedroids rom and installed ModinstallLocation....when i check manage applications, there is option there now to move to sd card but after i click on it....it is still highlighted to move to sd card.
I think it is still installing to phone memory.
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Thanks!
I installed Leedroids rom and installed ModinstallLocation....when i check manage applications, there is option there now to move to sd card but after i click on it....it is still highlighted to move to sd card.
I think it is still installing to phone memory.
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the froyo apps2sd is wank to be honest lol it takes as much space on your fone than your sd card, to check its working look in the android secure folder on ur sd card, if there are apk's there its working, you'll be alot better just using the classic version tho
Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?
mobad said:
Any ideas how I could get my apps onto my 4gig sd card.
I have read the tutorial but in my clockwords recovery mode, there is no option to partition.
The reason for the partition is for adding my apps to my SD card.
Currently I have tons of apps and allot of them slow my phone down.
Should this be the case? I was advised that the way android works is, it auto closes apps when the speed starts to slow down?
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the linux kernal will close apps when it needs to but that has very little to do with where the apps actually reside.
you need to partition your card with rom manager from the market in order to enable apps2sd( not the crappy froyo apps2sd mind)
copy the contents of your card at the moment to your pc. downlaod rom manager from the market, use it to partition your card with 512mb and 32mb swap. then dowload modinstalllocation from the market, this will allow you to chose where you save your apps too. choose 1 internal( ie the 512mb ext 3 partition for apps2sd you made with rom manager). copy all your content back to your sd card. all your apps should now be in your ext3 partition. if you really want to move apps to the actual sd card main partition, choose location 2 phone with modinstallocation but beware that whenever you mount the sd card those apps wont work till its remounted( its wise not to put widgets on the sd card). to check all this info and make sure apps2sd is working correctly you can downlaod quick settings info from the market and it will give you all the info you need on internal and apps2sd storage on your phone.
Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?
mobad said:
Many thanks for your reply.
I have just done as you said and then downlaoded aroudn 4 apps equalling around 20mb.
They seem to be on the sd card and internal.
The size of external has gone down by around 15mb and around 5-10mb has goen down on the internal as well?
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That is correct. If you are using legacy Apps2SD or Froyo Apps2SD, the Dalvik cache (see here) remains on the internal phone memory.
So, when you install a new application onto SD card, it will consume memory on internal phone memory, though at a lesser rate than if the app was installed on phone memory (in my experience, roughly half the rate).
The only way to "resolve" this is to install legacy Apps2SD+, which also moves the Dalvik cache to SD card.
Personally, I don't do this - what I do is actively manage my applications using Titanium backup. For example, I seldom use certain large apps such as Google Earth, and some games, but I do want to keep them available. So I install them on the phone, and then back them up using Titanium Backup. When storage is low, I will remove them from the phone, but I can bring them back quickly (and without using data) as required.
I don't use legacy Apps2SD+ because I do have several SD cards that I want to be able to swap between quickly.
Regards,
Dave
Dave - many thanks for your comprehensive and useful reply.
What would be the limitation for using Apps2SD+?
From your reply im assuming it would stop me from chaing sd cards?
Essentially yes - you'd need to keep the EXT partition across SD cards in sync, which while not impossible, is more difficult than just copying .android_secure folder from one card to another which I believe should work ok so long as being used in the same phone.
Regards,
Dave
Excellent.
I think im ready to set it all up.
Got two not technical final question for you -
Which rom would you recommend?
I'm currentl with Frost 2.9a however I found Modaco's custom rom to be mroe fruitful with apps/stability.
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
Thanks
mobad said:
Which 16gb/32gb sd card would you recommend?
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I regularly use two 16gb Class 2 Sandisk cards and a 8gb Class 6 Transcend card. To be honest, I've no performance issues with either and my Sandisk cards regular exceed Class 6 minimums. Personally, I see no point paying extra for a large capacity Class 6 or Class 10 card - I may try 720p recording on my Class 6 soon though to see if it improves the framerate, but I doubt there will be much if any difference.
Regards,
Dave
Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Hi Everyone,
i currently have a Rooted HTC Desire with DJ Droid V1.2 and froyo. I have setup my SD card partitioned to 512mb. Everytime i install an app to the SD card or even move it to the SD card, it still takes up the full space on the phone. For example i had 116mb free on my internal storage then after installing fennic (takes up 18.51mb) i had 97.80mb left so it took up 18.19mb out of a 18.51mb install.
Am i doing something wrong? can anyone advise?
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Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
Lennyuk said:
Dalvik cache and data will still be on the internal memory, only the physical app will get moved to sd card.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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ok fair enough but look at how little space is actually being stored on the sd card (0.32mb) Are you saying that the app is only 0.32mb and 18.51mb of that app is data? by the way ive never used this app so i dont know how it has 18.51mb of data.
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well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
see attached screenshot
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well maybe in the case of firefox, or whatever name its going by, as its only a alpha/beta does not correctly move to SD.
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ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
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ok i prob picked a bad app as an example i was just trying to get something with a large install. i tried it with another few apps after partitioning my sd card and it seems to work fine. Thanks man.
Just one question. what is app2sd for? is that the routed version of what froyo has? it only lists like 2 apps to be able to move. which one moves the apps to the ext partition, app2sd or applications (in system menu)?
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Not all apps will have the ability to "move to sd" on froyo, however with "apps2sd+" or "ext apps2sd" everything will be saved onto the ext parition of the sd card.
So since i have app2sd already preinstalled on the djdroid rom, i already see all my apps are movable to the SD card. is that correct? or are just most apps movable anyway
app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
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app2SD doesnt MAKE all YOUR APPS MOVABLE. It just alerts you when an app is movable.
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Two things!
1. Why resurrect a thread that is nearly 3 months old?
2. If someone is using Apps2SD with an EXT partition, everything is already installed on the EXT partition and so is already on the SD card. There's no point "moving" it to SD since all you'd be doing is shifting it from the EXT partition to the FAT32 partition!
Regards,
Dave
For the App2sd function of Froyo 2.2, I had set default to install the applications to SD card and all the "Move to SD" button can work. However, I find that some application still use up the internal memory, e.g. 10Mbs application can only move 5Mbs to SD card.
May I know any different between the 2.2 App2sd and that of custom Rom?
Is the App2sd of custom Rom (i.e. the one need to create ext2/3/4 on SD card) can move all the whole application to SD card and will not use up the internal memory?
Thanks!
There are essentially 3 forms of A2SD:
1. Froyo A2SD - moves the application (from /data/app) to the FAT32 partition of the SD card. Does not touch the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) or the application data (/data/data).
2. Legacy A2SD - moves the application (from /data/app) to an EXT partition of the SD card. Does not touch the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) or the application data (/data/data).
3. Legacy A2SD+ - moves the application (from /data/app) and the Dalvik cache (data/dalvik-cache) to the EXT partition of the SD card. Does not touch the application data (/data/data).
Options 1 and 2 should be pretty much identical in terms of internal storage usage, and option 3 should save the most space.
Anecdotal evidence suggests that any attempt to move /data/data to SD card causes a lot of instability, which is surprising because I would have thought that the Dalvik cache would have been more problematic.
The long and short of it is that there is no way to stop applications from consuming storage if they use /data/data. A prime example is Google Earth, which still consumes a lot of internal memory regardless of A2SD because of the data in /data/data.
Personally, I use Froyo A2SD, with the fusecompress mod to compress the Dalvik cache in internal memory.
Regards,
Dave
kitkit1981 said:
For the App2sd function of Froyo 2.2, I had set default to install the applications to SD card and all the "Move to SD" button can work. However, I find that some application still use up the internal memory, e.g. 10Mbs application can only move 5Mbs to SD card.
May I know any different between the 2.2 App2sd and that of custom Rom?
Is the App2sd of custom Rom (i.e. the one need to create ext2/3/4 on SD card) can move all the whole application to SD card and will not use up the internal memory?
Thanks!
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legacy apps2sd that comes native in froyo, just moves the .apk to the sd card, and not all apps can be moved. apps2sd+ that comes with custom roms, creates a parallel file system identical to that of androids but on your sd card, then points your device to the sd card as the install location, this means alot less space is taken up on your device, some install data is sometimes still stored on your device but for example i have over 200 apps on my desire and some of them are quite large, rockplayer/nfs shift/ 5 or 6 gameloft games ect and i still have over 50mb free
Thanks for your reply, I have a clear concept of these two app2sd now
So i just root my unbranded HTC Desire with Android 2.2 (from holland)
I rooted with the unrevoked method. Link here
I wanted to root because i was in need of ROM, only had 15MB left and everything was already on my SD card installed the normal way.
also with the "forced install to sd" method i was still in need of more ROM.
Like in the post above i just want to have 400 apps installed.
So i need a custom rom.
Now i have notes that if i install a custom 2.2 froyo rom i may have difficulties with bluetooth or fm-radio and maby other problems.
I have also heared about htc releasing source codes and now it should be possible to work around or fix those problems i just mentioned.
anyways I am still n00b in this all and doing allot of research for now. I just want to have a rom that would be the same as what i have now(WORKING WITHOUT PROBLEMS AND NO BUGGES) but with the app2sd in it so that i can have 300 apps and still have free memory.
so could somebody tell me what to do? is there already a custom rom out that works perfect, or i should stick with my rom, or what about OpenDesire
Well hope somebody can help me out with some wisdom.
Cheers and thanks in advanced.
DesireDroid
nobody can help me out?
is there an custom rom that works with fm radio and bluetooth and camera and all and has the htc sense in it?
or should i figure out to make my own custom rom?
DesireDroid said:
nobody can help me out?
is there an custom rom that works with fm radio and bluetooth and camera and all and has the htc sense in it?
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Most custom Sense ROMs are fine.
The "issue" I think you are referring to is that Sense ROMs do not support the Bluetooth HID profile so cannot utilize a Bluetooth keyboard, whereas AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod do support Bluetooth HID but the FM radio doesn't work.
Having said all that, I'd imagine that 300+ apps is probably an unrealistic target on any ROM due to the data stored in /data/data. It might be possible if the specific apps don't have much of a /data/data requirement, but in general I'd say it was unlikely.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
Most custom Sense ROMs are fine.
The "issue" I think you are referring to is that Sense ROMs do not support the Bluetooth HID profile so cannot utilize a Bluetooth keyboard, whereas AOSP ROMs like CyanogenMod do support Bluetooth HID but the FM radio doesn't work.
Having said all that, I'd imagine that 300+ apps is probably an unrealistic target on any ROM due to the data stored in /data/data. It might be possible if the specific apps don't have much of a /data/data requirement, but in general I'd say it was unlikely.
Regards,
Dave
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k having that said, i was thinking of buying a 16gb microsdhc class 6 card.
but, well i didn't know about the bluetooth HID , still is it hard to build up my own custom rom?
I mean, getting for example my current rom and modding things. or getting an official rom from htc and modding that?
try different roms and see which one is the best. Defrost, Opendesire, Aurax, or http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=741775
all of them are great but the best depends on your taste and expectatives.
k making a backup now.
I think i go try http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=768703
I have a 4gb microSD card, so i read that to enable a2sd+ i need to repartition the sd card. can this be done from the phone? i got the clockworkmod recovery.
and shall i make it 1GB so i can install more apps? just thinking crazy.
"is this Rom Manager in the android market?"
Hi, can I use SD Card as default storage? How? I have a 64 GB SD Card, but every App/Games data is in external storage(which have only 10 GB, and now it is full), when I move Android folder from external storage to SD card, every game stops working, because can't find data and try downloading it again to external storage. I try several app for moving to the SD card, but without luck, Is there any solution? Thank you.
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Why would you think that just moving an app's data would be okay? How on earth would the app know where you moved its files to?
Have you tried Apps2SD?
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Why would you think that just moving an app's data would be okay? How on earth would the app know where you moved its files to?
Have you tried Apps2SD?
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Yes, without luck. I move it to the SD card, but its same as when I do it with file explorer, game canť find data and trying downloading it again..
Are you running a custom ROM? I thought from your signature you were on Viper. Then I realized its not a Viper version number (7.0.0) that applies to this phone.
I think the SD card fix needs to be applied for Apps2SD to work, but most (if not all) custom ROMs should already have the SD card fix implemented.
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Are you running a custom ROM? I thought from your signature you were on Viper. Then I realized its not a Viper version number (7.0.0) that applies to this phone.
I think the SD card fix needs to be applied for Apps2SD to work, but most (if not all) custom ROMs should already have the SD card fix implemented.
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Yes, sdfix is aplied in rom (Viper 3.1.0.) I see in some LG device, it have in setting/storage when people can select default storage. I need set a sd card as default, but can't find how.