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Sprite Backup Question

Does Sprite Backup v3 backup to old versions of ROMS if you mess up a ROM upgrade or dislike a ROM upgrade that you have recently undergone? I am just wondering how comprehensive a restore would be before I actually purchase this program. Also, how does one actually carry out a restore? Do you just have to install the Sprite program into the reset PDA and hit restore? Sorry for these basic questions, thanks!

My understanding has always been it does not back-up ROM. I tend to believe that as I recently had some problems with my XV6600 and did a series of test backups. With no software installed, it was a very small file...lead me to believe that ROM is indeed NOT backed up.
One of two ways to do a restore. If you use the default options in Sprite, then after a hard reset, you would need to reinstall Sprite and carry out the restore. Sprite 3 has an option to create a self-restoring backup, which is what I use. It does add considerable size to the backup and you can forget about putting it in the perm storage area. But upon a hard reset, you simply execute the backup file and you're off and running!

trewang said:
Does Sprite Backup v3 backup to old versions of ROMS if you mess up a ROM upgrade or dislike a ROM upgrade that you have recently undergone? I am just wondering how comprehensive a restore would be before I actually purchase this program. Also, how does one actually carry out a restore? Do you just have to install the Sprite program into the reset PDA and hit restore? Sorry for these basic questions, thanks!
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Sprite only restore settings, programs and personal data, I will not recomend it for rom upgrades, ex: I have 1.31 rom from o2 and make a backup, them make a rom update to i-mate 1.40, now make a restore, well, this will not work, some times erase new progranms in the rom, some times convert the new rom to old rom things, for do a restore just install the program a do a restore, but is better what you get a sd card for save the backup data in there...sorry in my english, i speak spanish...

How to Backup my ROM (HTC TyTn)

Hi, i know this maybe on other threads but i cant findit, yesturday my phone speaker stop working, my phone have warranty, AT&T send me a new 8525, but my problem is that i have to many things on my old phone that i dont remember all (diferent hacks and program fix that i spend long nights working) i whant to backup my rom with all the programs and setings to install it on my new phone, i have to send the old phone ASAP, please can someone help me. THANKS.

You can use Sprite Backup that has a feature of backing up ROM or Full backup. Or you can use SPB Backup. Both are good and will do your task.

And were can i download this programs?????

try spb image my friend

And were can i download this programs?????

OK my friends i locate this programs but they are to backup DATA on my PDA and i want to backup my ROM and create a RUU to install my rom on my new phone.

Sprite and SPB Backup both back up your settings, documents, programs (if they are in device memory) - all the data on your phone except the ROM. Dumping your ROM and then coming back and trying to create a RUU from it is going to be a pain the... well, it is unnecessarily difficult.
First, use one of the programs above and do a full backup. Then, when you get your phone back, flash the same ROM you are using now and then restore from your backup. You will achieve the same result with much less trouble.
Is there some reason you MUST back up your ROM? Is it one of a kind?

Ok but i cant find this programs that works with WM6, i download them but i am getting error when try to backup.

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I want to upgrade to Schapp's new 4.31 ROM. I am now using 4.0 which is great.
Is there an easier way than reinstalling all the software and settings that are already on my Hermes?
Charlie

use spb backup - so you can save all your settings and apps before flashing

kingartus said:
use spb backup - so you can save all your settings and apps before flashing
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Whoa there buddy, you CANNOT use spb backup (or any other backup) to port settings from one rom to another. Different roms have different registries so while most of the phone will be functional, you will most likely encounter errors.
Ur best off reinstalling everything mrlease.

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Whoa there buddy, you CANNOT use spb backup (or any other backup) to port settings from one rom to another. Different roms have different registries so while most of the phone will be functional, you will most likely encounter errors.
Ur best off reinstalling everything mrlease.
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Not quite right sir,
If you are upgrading from WM5 to WM6 then dont use a backup utility since registry stuff is slightly different. HOWEVER updating to a newer WM6 ROM will be fine if you use a backup utility, aslong as you are already using WM6.

Correct - that´s the way it is!!

mrvanx said:
Not quite right sir,
If you are upgrading from WM5 to WM6 then dont use a backup utility since registry stuff is slightly different. HOWEVER updating to a newer WM6 ROM will be fine if you use a backup utility, aslong as you are already using WM6.
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How about moving from one build to another build in WM6? Will a backup utility like spb back up or sprite backup work?

Yer it should be fine, remember the core OS is still WM6, the builds just relate to bug fixes and later versions of dlls etc...

I use sprite backup, but one thing that's made me skeptical about using it for rom updates is updates to cooked in apps.
For example, I'm using schaps 4.01 but want to upgrade to 4.31. Loads of the cooked in apps are updated, but will sprite try to overwrite them with the old versions when I restore?
Plus what if my backup file has an app which wasn't part of the original rom but is in the newer one - will I end up with the rom version, or my previously installed version?
I suppose I could test these out, but if someone knows the answer it would be really helpful.

What the !
Oh, the countless hours I have wasted reinstalling all my apps and settings.
However, to be fair, SPBBackup always warns me against backing up from a different machine...

larsuck said:
What the !
Oh, the countless hours I have wasted reinstalling all my apps and settings.
However, to be fair, SPBBackup always warns me against backing up from a different machine...
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What the ! exactly. It takes me >>> hours to setup,customize,...etc after each flash. If someone can confirm this, it would be great. I'll flash more often. 8)

mrvanx said:
Not quite right sir,
If you are upgrading from WM5 to WM6 then dont use a backup utility since registry stuff is slightly different. HOWEVER updating to a newer WM6 ROM will be fine if you use a backup utility, aslong as you are already using WM6.
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Really? In my 6 mos of visiting this site I've never heard this before...it was always "only do it with the same rom." Well if there is anyone I'd trust on this, its prob you vanx. Just surprising.

Mrvanx is, of course, correct. I have used both Sprite and SPB to restore programs and settings between different WM6 versions. Sprite seems to work the best, and has "ROM Upgrade" and "New Device" options in addition to the basic restore function. When I upgraded my Axim from 5 to 6 I used Sprites ROM Upgrade and it worked perfectly. On Hermes I have only tested with various versions of WM6.

Sprite Backup ROM Upgrade
I tried Sprite Backup ROM Upgrade option to go to the latest Berds_4.31_SS ROM. I turned out to be pretty bad, some observations:
1. Comm Managers didn't get carried over - I am using Schap's Kaiser
2. Spb Mobile Shell completely failed. Customized menu were all lost.
3. Many others I couldn't recall.
I thought I share this for others' benefit. I later did the step by step installing everything. Perhaps others have success but it didn't work for this round for me.

MrVanx is right AS FAR AS REGISTRY IS CONCERNED. You can backup/restore registry setting as a whole or branches and entries of your liking easily even without SPB Backup. But restoring full ROM with all programs is like forecasting the weather - you can never know the exact result. I have tried both SPB Backup and Sprite Backup to restore apps between the different WM6 ROMs and the results were not very positive - from duplicated shortcuts in the Programs menu (New ROM included program I had to install to the old one by default, but in a different location), various apps not working correctly, or ultimately bricked device (hang at WM Boot screen - HR required) - it ALL DEPENDS ON YOUR SETUP. As a rule of the thumb I would say the more apps you have the more likely you are to encounter some problems.

Backup the whole bits of data in the pda

Hi guys, there are so many roms created for the TD, Hail the chefs !!! and I would like to try some of them !
the problem is, my TD has gone productive for some months and if I flash another rom but I don't like it and want to go back to the latest state I need to do again the whole hassle (mitty or flash stock, flashing the good old rom, automated installation of programs, do settings, sync the data, restore messages from backup, and so on so forth...). for me this process will take at least 5 hours
i am just wondering if there is a tool to backup all data (rom, phone settings, installed programs, settings of all programs installed, pim, internal storage) in the phone. basically, the whole bits of data in the pda.
I believe with the existence of this tool there are many more people would like to try the new roms and find their best suited one

[Q] ROM Backups with rhodium kitchen?

(Excuse me if this seems noobish, I'm used to nandroid )
I dumped my ROM and got Part00, 01, 02, 03.raw. The only ones I've seen used are parts 1 and 2, but judging by file size, I'm pretty sure 3 is the data partition, so if I flashed a ROM with 1 and 2, I'd get the OS back, but none of my files. Like a fresh install of Windows. Is there any way to put that part 3 into the nbh?
Or am I completely wrong about what the parts are?

This is a pretty convoluted way to go about making a backup, but it sounds like you're on the right track. I find it much easier to do a full backup with another application like SPB Backup or Sprite Backup. This would restore the entire ROM after flashing it back to how it was. This doesn't make a flashable ROM image, but it does allow you to flash the ROM you made the backup from and then do a full restore including registry entries.

Okay, thanks, but is there any way to make a flashable NBH out of those parts that you know of? I was going to try out the Android NAND boot thingy, but I wanted to be able to get back to Windows Mobile as soon as I could if things didn't work out, because the TouchPro2 is now my only phone worth using
By the way, the Albino Black Sheep link in your signature should be REQUIRED to watch before using any forum

Not as far as I know. It's not a long process to restore a backup. I do it quite often and it takes me about 10 minutes total to go from flashing the ROM to completing the restore process and rebooting. The only caveat to this is that the full backups will only function properly when used with the exact ROM that was flashed when the backup was made.
I got that link from when I was active in the Steam forums. I wish I could just hand it out to most of the new guys around here who have never been part of a forum before.

Thanks I vaguely remember the old Data Backup program from my iPaq 3600 of old, and I guess this is kinda the same thing.

Yes, but you may want to get a newer backup program. Most of the older ones that worked on WM5 do not work on WM6.5 and WM6.5.3.