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I am a bit of a newb to the hermes and was wondering what is the best/most stable rom for wm6.?? (I'm on orange UK by the way)
Would appreciate any opinions and links to the roms.
I have spent ages reading through various posts but keep getting lost/confused.
I have done the hard spl upgrade and have a sd card ready for the upgrade. Now it's the big question of which rom.
Would like one that is ready to go with most of the basics already there rather than one of the really lite ones I think, but not sure which would be best ?
I probably should say it's an M3100
Thanks in advance....steve
Which one that is best for you, might not be the one that is best for someone else. Each cook has their own style.
Try several, I would suggest CRC's, Tai's, Josh's, or kareme's
You really will have to try several to see what fits you best.
I have not tried any of the 6.5 roms out, mainly because it seems there are still bugs to be worked out.
Don't bother with WM6
There's not really that significant a jump from WM5 - and you can get an official WM6 ROM!
IMHO 6.1 is the way to go, for now...
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Umm.. I've been trying the WM 6.5 Version XXX76 from Tai... I am mighty impressed... I thot it'd need lots of ram to keep 6.5 running.. this is fast man... 6.5 though there are no paradigm shifts from 5,6 or 6.1... even the beta seems better that 6.1...
currently my rnaking would be
1. 6.5 ( I am liking waht I am seeing.. this is the speed king... 76 fro TAI is stable as any other ROM)
2. 6 (faster... than most of the other Versions and not plain as 5
3. 6.1 (lots of fixes on this but slow.. slow...slow)
WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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WARNING!!:
once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
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once you go 6.5 u can't go back!!
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thanks josh... for your warning...
There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying
I just bought a 8525 for $125 USD. It's awesome. I first settled on one of Schap's ROMS - Schaps_WM6Pro_Hermes_4.31_WWE_Full.
It was really nice but now it is sadly behind the times. There are 2 new 6.5 ROMs worth trying:
1 21189_Lite_V9_Update1
2 21193_Lite_V10
I installed the 1st and stopped there because it is so awesome. The Hermes no longer has to hide in the shadows of all the new $600 Pda/phones out there.
One thing about 6.5 is that there is no "programs" section per se in the titanium feature(?). So I went to a SPBplus4 Today Screen.
It's much more convenient for accessing fexplorer and task mgr.I did do an auto hide on the tabs and minimized the icons so it would look like one of the newer phones. Appreciate all the hard work everyone put in.
My ROM request (if anyone's interested) is for a full featured 6.5 -something like K's ROM with TAI's finesse dominating - BUT without IE or OFFICE or WM built in. I am surprised all the great cooks include these. I have found Skyfire, TCPMP work great and I don't need Office at all.
And the START MENU sections on the 6.5 should go directly to the same categories as before except more like :
Programs, SYSTEM Settings, Connection Settings, Personal Settings, TODAY settings, TOOLS (regedit, fexplore, taskmgr), GAMES, PICTURES, VIDEOS, MUSIC, AND the option to add or customize your own AND be able to have it show before Programs, and stay there after a SR!
I am a newbie but I know what I want. Thanks again to all the cooks for making carrying a phone everywhere exciting and useful and for showing the big companies how to really do it. They keep putting out these improved ROMs (performance-wise) but they have no idea what to do with them.
Jupiter and Titan from AZ USA.
I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
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I am also trying to figure out how to automatically add my apps from the SD card after a HR. Autorun or something like that. Anyone know of a thread that shows a newbie how to do it?
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Here you go: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366337
I am still using binky11 as it was 5 or six month,,so stable,,,,
I love manilla2d, but it is not stable until right now
thanks
Try Josh M2D ROM..
Its nice, fast and stable
thanks JOsh
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What do you mean? I tried 6.5, didn't like it and flashed 6.1. Without any problems.
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
I personally like Tai_SW's 21109 rom. It seems to be really stable though that could be because its a hybrid WM6.1/WM6.5 rom.
Have 2 Hermes, on my main I use 21109 but test others on my "spare"...
I don't tend to like the Hex or titanium roms as the RAM is low and storage space seems to abot 45Mb or less while I use about 50 Mb for the apps I like. I need to have as much RAM as possible too so I don't end up with system freezes when I run a REALLY RAM hungry app.
Cheers...
binky11 is the most stable ever, but it will be the perfect rom when manill2d them inside.
PERFECT
thanks
Tai_SW's wm6.1 lite roms are superb, fast, stable, & lot's of free memory!!
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Yes Josh what do you mean?? i've also downgrade back to WM 6.
I've tried your WM 6.5 Its great but for now im looking forward for the hybrid rom.
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
I use DarkWinter2 from Josh and it works fine for me.
PDAViet DVH_V27... I have tried other ROMS - some of them really nice, but there was always something, which made me to go back to DVH_V27.. too bad this guy does not cook for hermes anymore..
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Josh meant that WM6.5 is great and once you've tried it, you don't want to back to 6.1 anymore
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Not neccesary. I tried one day 6.5 Josh rom (GS or else edition), but it was lagging, so I re-flased it the same day. Now I'm using Josh V15 colored 3G and is wonderful
I cant really figure out the difference between Kavana's Rom and Rose rom made by so many people...
Can Any one tell me whats the difference between these rom,
which is more stable and fast??
just the basic info to help me decide
im using kavanas Rom right now and currently downloading NRG rose remade by ricky and stylez
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I cant really figure out the difference between Kavana's Rom and Rose rom made by so many people...
Can Any one tell me whats the difference between these rom,
which is more stable and fast??
just the basic info to help me decide
im using kavanas Rom right now and currently downloading NRG rose remade by ricky and stylez
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all roms are stable differences are da apps da rose might have different apps then da kavana also da nrg rose remake is easier for u to costomize da home screen and other stuff im running kavana cause it looks like da official 6.1 and i havnt had any problems wit it
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all roms are stable differences are da apps da rose might have different apps then da kavana also da nrg rose remake is easier for u to costomize da home screen and other stuff im running kavana cause it looks like da official 6.1 and i havnt had any problems wit it
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English?
Anyway, I can't say I agree with what I think this guy said. I've run Kavana and Ricky's v24 for extended periods of time and both were very stable and fast compared to either of the new Rose roms. Also, the battery life is MUCH better with the older roms.
The software offered in the roms are pretty close across the board, though I would compare NRG's Rose 1.3 with Kavana and the 1.7 Ricky/Stylez remade Rose with Ricky's v24.
The Rose rom is supposedly easier to customize because of the new core being used, but honestly, I don't screw around with my homescreen much after I have it set the way I want, so I don't care about having to soft-reset from time to time after changes.
The only reason I'm sticking with the Rose 1.7 at the moment, is because I do think that it's more polished than the older roms (aesthetically)... though I may end up going back to Ricky's v24 in the future if the battery life and occasional freeze ups piss me off enough.
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English?
Anyway, I can't say I agree with what I think this guy said. I've run Kavana and Ricky's v24 for extended periods of time and both were very stable and fast compared to either of the new Rose roms. Also, the battery life is MUCH better with the older roms.
The software offered in the roms are pretty close across the board, though I would compare NRG's Rose 1.3 with Kavana and the 1.7 Ricky/Stylez remade Rose with Ricky's v24.
The Rose rom is supposedly easier to customize because of the new core being used, but honestly, I don't screw around with my homescreen much after I have it set the way I want, so I don't care about having to soft-reset from time to time after changes.
The only reason I'm sticking with the Rose 1.7 at the moment, is because I do think that it's more polished than the older roms (aesthetically)... though I may end up going back to Ricky's v24 in the future if the battery life and occasional freeze ups piss me off enough.
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yep i agree
I would just like to say thank you... i have had my dash for a year and i have checked out the roms.. love all... and really to each his own on what rom they use... and i think this is my first post... wow.... must mean i find what i am looking for to turn and already useful phone to something that can still turn heads at a party
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I would just like to say thank you... i have had my dash for a year and i have checked out the roms.. love all... and really to each his own on what rom they use... and i think this is my first post... wow.... must mean i find what i am looking for to turn and already useful phone to something that can still turn heads at a party
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So what ROM did you settle on? I'm considering going back to Ricky's v24... running Rose v1.7 with Miniweather 1.3 and my network connection never disconnects on its own after an update, which I think is killing my battery life.
Kavanas this week lol.... i didnt have my phone for about three months and when i came back the rose roms were out... the text messaging in Kavanas "not sure about ricky's i have not used that one in awhile". but the predictive text actually remembers text such as my name gymwhaley in Kavanas.. in rose remade 1.7 i dont believe it did, or i just may not have had the settings correct.. . those three are great but i test with one hand alot and sign in to places online so having predictive text that remebers words not in a english dictonary makes things a little faster
FYI, the predictive text can be fixed in the Rose rom by installing the Tegic T9 cab, IIRC. Anyway, I'm not trying to sway you one way or another... I'm just curious. As I said, I'm not sure that I'll stick to the Rose yet myself... my biggest pet peeve with it is the bad battery life, which I believe the network connection not disconnecting may be a contributing factor. It's also more prone to lockups when trying to get into the new comm manager and a few other places.
i saw that a few days ago about the fix for predictive text, but had already swiched, batt life was not vay good, but i know i need a new batt so until i get one i really cant comment on it... and alot of lockups i had were do to smart took kit rc 09 or what ever on 1.7. using 8 now and have no problems.. ( on 1.7 and kanvanas )i know 9 had problems but i had to give it a try anyways. and i did have a few comm manager issues in 1.7... cant wait till another rom comes
Just a quick update... it seems the network never disconnecting is a byproduct of NRG's MiniWeather 1.2 and 1.3 application. I tried them again, using the appropriate roms, and the network connections stays on regardless. So please disregard my previous assertion that the Rose roms were causing the connection issue.
thank u so much for the feedback..
im thinking i should stick to kavana for a while, i am really new to these stuff so i am thinking of sticking to the basics.
yeah battery is another main factor,
i noticed that since ive been using kavana... the battery isnt giving that much time as it used to in WM5... i havent really checked it.. its just a hunch...
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So what ROM did you settle on? I'm considering going back to Ricky's v24... running Rose v1.7 with Miniweather 1.3 and my network connection never disconnects on its own after an update, which I think is killing my battery life.
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battery life is a problem... can u tell me how many hours does it last??
ice_guru said:
I cant really figure out the difference between Kavana's Rom and Rose rom made by so many people...
Can Any one tell me whats the difference between these rom,
which is more stable and fast??
just the basic info to help me decide
im using kavanas Rom right now and currently downloading NRG rose remade by ricky and stylez
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May I add one question?
Which version(s) are able to cope with the german keyboard layout of my XDA Cosmo? Somewhere I read that some versions are English only, which does not hurt, i am just curious if i can select the proper keyboard...
Thank you.
RIN67630
Does the rose have all the office apps like the Kavana rom has?
Office Mobile
List:
AIReader
Word
Excel
OneNote
PowerPoint
PDF Reader
Create Word
Create Word X
Create Excel
Create Excel X
Templates
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Does the rose have all the office apps like the Kavana rom has?
Office Mobile
List:
AIReader
Word
Excel
OneNote
PowerPoint
PDF Reader
Create Word
Create Word X
Create Excel
Create Excel X
Templates
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yea except it dont have
Create Word
Create Word X
Create Excel
Create Excel X
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battery life is a problem... can u tell me how many hours does it last??
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Number of hours isn't a good question, because many of us are no longer using the oem battery, so it's not apples to apples. I'm using a Seidio battery which is the same size, but approximately 30% higher capacity than the stock battery.
With Ricky's v24 remake of Kavana's rom, I would typically need to charge every other day (36-40 hours). With the Rose, I need to charge approx. every 18-20 hours or so. But I don't know how much of the decrease in battery life is attributable to the rom and how much is because of the Edge connection staying on constantly because of NRG's MiniWeather.
I would definitely consider Ricky's v24 if you want to maximize battery life...it's very similar to Kavana, but has numerous apps already installed with the rom. I started out with Kavana and had "upgraded" to v24 within a couple weeks.
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yea except it dont have
Create Word
Create Word X
Create Excel
Create Excel X
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These shortcuts don't exist, but you can still create a new document from within Word or Excel.
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These shortcuts don't exist, but you can still create a new document from within Word or Excel.
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You can enable the office panel and it will go straight to create rather than open up program create new
first of all...everyone who offers cooked roms did a great job.
but the last months i noticed there are only WM6.5 roms with titanium.
for myself, i made the experience that 6.5 "with" titanium isnt realy made for our little devices. besides that it doesnt really give the comfort like manila does.
sure...at the beginning it seems smooth, but then after u start to work with it more often u notice the lack of "power"
so, is it possibe to try WM 6.5 with M2D insteat of titanium?
or if it doesnt work because of ram...why not just go back to the latest WM6.1 and make it stable and comfortable. after testing several wm 6.5 roms with tianium i went back to joshs V15 m2d, its just faster and easier to use.
just my thoughts, maybe others have the same.
but anyhow...keep on cookin'!^^
I have played with 6.5 a little, and I kinda feel the same. Except, I like a very lite today screen (lite on memory) and the standard 6.1 today plugins have suited me just fine, with the addition of pocket digital clock.
I guess we will have to see what the future brings, maybe titanium (chome) will improve. I'll probably be sticking with 6.1.
And, to me the latest build number (at least for 6.1) doesn't mean a whole lot. So many things can be changed in the kitchen that the build number becomes irrelevant.
ya, it doesnt have to be always the latest one.
but i guess it is just the hype for 6.5 an its titanium
it looks fresh and new, everbody wants to test and use it. and here the desire for the latest stuff comes in. a lot of people forget about the comfort they had with their previous roms (speed and usablitly).
we always have to keep in mind...6.5/titanium is made for another generation of devices...our hermes cant keep up with them anymore and it doesnt make sense to have a pseudo diamond2 which cant be used for daily tasks.
I have cooked a 6.5 ROM with manilla instead and had wayyyyyyyyyyy less memory then when using titanium. I like manilla better but the scrolling with 6.5 is something I just can't live without anymore.
I guess it's 6.5 all the way!
Hi,
I agree with MrDSL that things like scrolling in WM 6.5 is something even I cant live without... And I am on wm 6.5 and there are very good ROMs for hermes dished out by our chefs.. and in my personal experience are stable as any of 6, 6.1 ROMs.. I use them every day for my professional use..
and on the proactive note since the world is going forward.. I guess we should adapt WM 6.5 rather than taking a step back to 6.1; in any case if I would ever go back I'd do so to WM 6 than 6.1 since the later is more stable...
Titanium takes really low RAM... not comparable to Manila - even my small HS++ theme takes more!
For now the best ROM is 6.1 with one of the latest builds (21051/21048) - they're hell fast and rock solid. In the meantime I'm working on the WM6.5 stripped of the honeycomb and Titanium - and it seems really fast and stable! Soon I will release it, too for you, guys
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Titanium takes really low RAM... not comparable to Manila - even my small HS++ theme takes more!
For now the best ROM is 6.1 with one of the latest builds (21051/21048) - they're hell fast and rock solid. In the meantime I'm working on the WM6.5 stripped of the honeycomb and Titanium - and it seems really fast and stable! Soon I will release it, too for you, guys
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sounds cool!
@ manila issue
ok...it might use more RAM than titanium but its way more usable than titanium.
you have quicker access to main features. and i think that is what one wants...easy to use and comfortable.
of course its just a matter of taste but why should i "upgrade" to something newer which isnt that comfortable and with less speed than my previous version?
@scrolling issue
some guy at pdaviet managed to include a working touchflo into his hermes roms (6.1), without FTouch. i think it was dvha's rom.
M2D it's not for Hermes. I'm sure.
Titanium works fine in WM6.5 if you use only the plugins you need. I don't use titanium because I can't (or I don't know how to do) configure Weather for Spain cities and quick shortcuts to my favorite applications. Until I resolve that issues I use and recomend the old HTC Home.
M2D.....never again....
Titanium....yes...in one or two months.
I've tried a few versions and the phone just crawls. Is the phone even able to run WM 6.5 at a decent speed or should I just give up and stick with 6.1.
Thanks!
Are there any vanilla 6.5 roms I can try on the Hermes?
Try Tai_SW's Hero 3... Seems OK to me...
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Try Tai_SW's Hero 3... Seems OK to me...
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and i'll try the other tai_Sw v27 manila2d rom and it works good for me...
It runs Tai's Herov3 but you will find yourself running out of memory all too quickly. If you want a smooth running phone with as little problems as possible then stick to 6.1.
If a stripped down, barebones 6.5.3 ROM appears I think it will be able to run that o.k.
I've been following with most of the developers here, the last stable 6.5 i can get on my phone was - WP6.5 Build 23016 WWE SAYANGKU V6.9. Anything after that, my phone will freeze.
I have to say, I don't tend to run out of memory with Hero 3... Must be what you do with it.
Also noticed, it doesn't shut down all apps when you kill them, you need to install xbutton or other app killer....
I loved the 6.5 "stock like" ROM that's floating around. I prefer 6.1 because you can use larger PPs though. SNES, ScummVM emulation, CorePlayer and WiFi speeds are superior on a nice 6.1 ROM with a large PP. Depends on what you want to do.
Same issues, went back to 6.1
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I have to say, I don't tend to run out of memory with Hero 3... Must be what you do with it.
Also noticed, it doesn't shut down all apps when you kill them, you need to install xbutton or other app killer....
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HTC X-button doesn't work with Hero3. I don't know a close button app that does work because of where the new 'x' button is.
Just using normal stuff like Coreplayer, OperaMini, etc. If I don't use SKTools Free Ram or Oxios I eventually, after a day or so get the 'out of memory' normally when starting the Comm Mananger.
If I want run IGO8 I have disable the today screen and then flush the memory on restart, this gives me around 23Mb free.
The new Showcase (search in the forums here) works for the 6.5.x builds (as a task manager).
is better to use the new xtask
it dont make slow your SMS app
Or the new ArkSwitch, which I prefer .
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vanilla 6.5
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MindphaserXY said:
I loved the 6.5 "stock like" ROM that's floating around. I prefer 6.1 because you can use larger PPs though. SNES, ScummVM emulation, CorePlayer and WiFi speeds are superior on a nice 6.1 ROM with a large PP. Depends on what you want to do.
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I see you read very well congrats to you! can you teach all this guys why 6.5 is not so good for our old hermes... pleeeease!!!
dark vision
darkvbisions is the fastest for me i put spb mobile sheel on it at first i thought it was going to crawl like u said but its quite fast, but i install on my starage card
for closing the application you need to use showcase suite, it's the only one that work for me
wm 6.5 is very slow with hermes. memory issues freeze the phone a lot. i looking for decent stable 6.1 now
go for a 6.1 or 6 default rom and install spb mobile shell v3.0.1 on it.
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go for a 6.1 or 6 default rom and install spb mobile shell v3.0.1 on it.
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I have to agree with that. The latest Mobile Shell is 3.5.x also add Expresso Theme.
Anyone Know Where Can I Find A Classic and Lite wm 6.5 rom??..i searched here but i didnt find what i need...i found classic rom only or lite rom only...can anyone help
arrgh what exactly do you need, cause there is plenty of wm6.5 roms there, so i can't really understand what couldn't you find?
Yes, if you are a LOT more specific, I would be willing to cook you one real quick. It would be based on my last release of 23569. This has the buttons on the bottom of the screen instead of the top.
What features exactly do you need? Bluetooth? Office? Themes? Titanium??? Try to be really specific, and I will attempt to get you what you need.
Hey Supersport
Hey supersport
First of all thanx for all the good job and improvments you're making...
i downloaded your 23504 Blue & Lite and it works fine and its so cool. but could you plz make a ROM that is more power saver and also lite and fast.
I myself dont pay much attention to the beauty and ... but what is important to me is a lite,fast and stable rom and the one that doesnt drains battery fast and also i dont need many applications existing in these RMS...just some essential ones ...
BTW it would be very nice of you if you put a voice recoder in your ROM.
Thx in advnace,...man,so much i asked you,i just meant it would be much better for those who use their PPC only as a phone and besides they need just a few applications useful to them like voice recorder and etc... i appeciate all your effort and good work till now...
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Hey supersport
First of all thanx for all the good job and improvments you're making...
i downloaded your 23504 Blue & Lite and it works fine and its so cool. but could you plz make a ROM that is more power saver and also lite and fast.
I myself dont pay much attention to the beauty and ... but what is important to me is a lite,fast and stable rom and the one that doesnt drains battery fast and also i dont need many applications existing in these RMS...just some essential ones ...
BTW it would be very nice of you if you put a voice recoder in your ROM.
Thx in advnace,...man,so much i asked you,i just meant it would be much better for those who use their PPC only as a phone and besides they need just a few applications useful to them like voice recorder and etc... i appeciate all your effort and good work till now...
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Good Morning persguy;
Can you tell me exactly what you would like in this ROM? I see Voice Recorder, but what other items do you want? When people say they want the essential items, I'm not sure what that person thinks is essential. If you specifically state what items are important to you, I will do my best to accommodate your request.
Do you prefer the start menu at the Top, or Bottom? Do you prefer WM 6.1 or WM 6.5?
I'd Like To See
Basics as far as making a rom that has a calendar, task manager, camera, weather ect. but lose all the youtube and twitter and parlingo type apps. Those things can be added if you want them but not taken away once cooked in. There a couple lite roms like this but in a way they are too lite. Im still trying to figure out how to install an energy rom type weather on the super lite rom. Maybe Im just slow or I missed something.
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Basics as far as making a rom that has a calendar, task manager, camera, weather ect. but lose all the youtube and twitter and parlingo type apps. Those things can be added if you want them but not taken away once cooked in. There a couple lite roms like this but in a way they are too lite. Im still trying to figure out how to install an energy rom type weather on the super lite rom. Maybe Im just slow or I missed something.
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The Energy Series are anything BUT light. Unfortunately, to get those basics you speak about, it makes the ROM non-lite. I can cook a rom with the M2D interface (with weather) with unneeded tabs disabled and remove many of the 'Extra' packages if you like, but it will not be considered a Lite ROM. You can also customize that ROM using my Kitchen. This way you can add or remove any variables you like.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712385
I had once tomme45i 6.1 ROM and it was really great but had some problems like i couldnt recieve files via bluetooth and some other minor problems.
I'm looking for a fast 6.5 not draining battery.The design is not important to me,and i just need basic stuff like calender,media player,office,voice recorder,...as im a medical practitioner i would install some medical applications myself but dont need professional mobile applications or any fancy ones,games,...by the way quickmenu is real cool...
Sorry guys for being late to reply.
ok..what i mean is that i see here many wm 6.5 roms in the classic way (they look like wm 6.1) but they are full of unwanted applications ..so i was wondering if anyone know where can i find a wm 6.5 classic rom and to be a lite rom which doesn't contain alot of applications.