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WM5/6 Preventing App uninstall

Hi,
I have been told that there is a registry setting to prevent applications being unloaded from a WM5/6 device.
Can anyone tell me what it is?
I want to install a personal fw but don't want the users to unload this when my back is turned and opening up our network...
Many thanks,
Sam.

You can remove a program from the 'uninstall' list via registry (sorry don't remember the key) but this won't stop someone from simply deleting the files.
As for stopping an up from running - there is no such key. If the program has no active or visible windows it will not show in the regular task manager, but if a user knows enough he can easily delete if from autostart or turn it off using a 3rd party app manager.
But there is one thing I don't quite understand about your question:
You want to put a firewall on the phones of people in your company / organization so that when they connect to your network they won't jeopardize it?
Don't you need a firewall on the network side for this?
Note that WM devices (unlike XP etc) have virtually no server components so unless your users install a harmful app there is nothing for the intruder to connect to. (No file sharing, no remote desktop etc.)

Software IFILE to blackstone

Hi guy’s
I wondering if some one of you know about a program called "ifile" or something like that
I don’t need to say the name of the phone where roun this software but is not from Microsoft (clear enough right?)
So, I would like to know if there exists the same program for HTC HD or something like it.
I talking about a program that makes possible to transfer files from the pc to the Blackstone BY WLAN and so on so far.
I mean that you just need to write the IP address in your pc at the explorer and that’s it
Thank very much

every addon file explorer like total commander (free) and resco explorer (commercial) have builtin lan support
it works much like windows' "map network drive" function and is very good, i myself i use it alot
you can even use, instead of ip addresses, the network names of the computers or browse through the whole network.
i MIGHT be wrong but it seems to me that even the default winmo file explorer can do such thing provided you install file explorer extensions (search on this forum you will eventually find them out and read about those)

some ideas
Hi. There are some options i can think of from the top of my head.
1
share a folder on your pc, access it from your device with your favorite browser (Total Commander).
2
read in about getting activesync going over wlan
3
mail stuff to your self and check it on your other device
4
try to find a web or ftp server for ppc
5
there might be some remote control software (you know, to control your ppc from pc, or take screensnaps etc) that is able to transfer files. I know there is a lot of remote progs available.
6
There is software available to browse ms networks from ppc, maybe there is some that puts your pcc right in there.
I´ll add more if I think of any.
Use Google.

AirVdeo like application for WM

First of all thank you guys for such a great apps environment you created for our lazy WM platform.
Second of all I hope I am posting my request in the right place. Could someone start developing an application similar in functions with AirVideo for iphone. Its a basic app with a server(PC) - client(device) side that allows you to play on the phone any video stored on the PC (and any other storage media connected to the PC) without having to actually transfer the video on the device itself.
For more info please check : http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/index.html
It would be amazing if someone could achieve this. I would gladlly pay for such an app as I oftenly like to review my video courses I have stored on my PC from the convenience of my phone.
PS: I gave up the iphone platform 6 months ago and I am so much happier with my HD2.

juicecultus said:
First of all thank you guys for such a great apps environment you created for our lazy WM platform.
Second of all I hope I am posting my request in the right place. Could someone start developing an application similar in functions with AirVideo for iphone. Its a basic app with a server(PC) - client(device) side that allows you to play on the phone any video stored on the PC (and any other storage media connected to the PC) without having to actually transfer the video on the device itself.
For more info please check : http://www.inmethod.com/air-video/index.html
It would be amazing if someone could achieve this. I would gladlly pay for such an app as I oftenly like to review my video courses I have stored on my PC from the convenience of my phone.
PS: I gave up the iphone platform 6 months ago and I am so much happier with my HD2.
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Try orb. i use it on my HD2 and it works great. There's no need for a client app either! Just a browser (built in IE will do).

10x for the suggestion, I wasn't aware of this software.
Does it provide access to my content through my wireless router (under a local connection - PC and phone using the same WIFI) or do I have to stream everything through my broadband and their online servers?
All you need for airvideo is that the phone and the pc are connected to the same WIFI. All the streaming is done using the local connection which is good for privacy and there is also the option to convert a video file on the fly.
This sort of functionality I would like on the windows mobile platform if a developer would like to give it a go.

juicecultus said:
10x for the suggestion, I wasn't aware of this software.
Does it provide access to my content through my wireless router (under a local connection - PC and phone using the same WIFI) or do I have to stream everything through my broadband and their online servers?
All you need for airvideo is that the phone and the pc are connected to the same WIFI. All the streaming is done using the local connection which is good for privacy and there is also the option to convert a video file on the fly.
This sort of functionality I would like on the windows mobile platform if a developer would like to give it a go.
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Orb basically turns your PC into a media server. You just use whatever means you want to connect to your PC. I have a use one of those services that gives your PC a name, and I just connect to it via that, so I can do it via my internet connection if I want to, or connect via wifi and use the local IP address (192.168.x.x) to connect that way, but I don't tend to do that much, as I'm obviously in range of my PC if I'm in range of the router
Orb gives you access to specified folders on your PC, and all the media within them. It does images, video and music, so it really is a great addition to any device.

[Q] BitPim Alternatives

Does anyone know about any good alternatives to BitPim? Other than CDMA Workshop or KINO? thx

BitPim uses a different protocol than KinO. I'm not sure what other programs are that can use the same functionality, though.
Is there some specific feature you're looking for that you haven't found in the others?

the key to hacking this phone
i want one that is centered entirely around filesystem browsing. i would use kino but i need something much more powerful. the key to hacking this phone isnt necessarily getting new os. what we want is a better internet browser with more functionality. if you think about it, its the browser that we want to replace because of its low functionality.

Technically it would depend on which protocol you want to use when browsing the phone. KinO uses MTP (Media Transfer Protocol), and BitPim uses another type of browsing, although I'm not sure what protocol it is. Many older Windows Mobile Devices and other portable devices use a form of Mass Storage protocol, although I can't remember if that's the official name.
It's possible we can get the Kin in that mode now (via the PROGRAMNITT menu), but you need a driver to communicate with it, and as far as I know, we don't have access to a driver to access this mode yet.

MTPZ and Windows Phone

Hi, I was wondering if anybody had compiled any information on MTPZ in regards to its usage on Windows Phone 7. Based on preliminary review of the Mac OS X Connector application, the authentication process for MTPZ + Zune is at least somewhat different for MTPZ + WP7.
I've essentially reverse engineered the Zune variety of the MTPZ protocol (which you can read about if you head over to my blog), and I was planning to look into MTPZ on Windows Phone since that might have a larger target audience, but I was hoping to gather some information first:
How is MTPZ used on WP7? Is it what allows one to move files back and forth to the device? In addition, what is an MTPZ session with a Windows Phone device like? Is it just MTPZ authentication operations initially followed by regular MTP (as is the case for Zune devices), or are there MTPZ operations used throughout a session?
What does the Zune software allow you to do with Windows Phone devices? I don't have one of my own.
Has anybody captured a USB/MTP session of the Zune software's communication with a Windows Phone device?
Also just for when/if I begin looking into the protocol:
Do the WP7 emulator images include MTPZ implementations?
Would it somehow be possible to use the emulator image to simulate an actual USB Windows Phone device?
Thanks so much for any information.

Sounds like a great project! I can't answer all your questions right now, but a few of them certainly...
MTPZ allows syncing media files (music, video, picture) to and from WP7. I believe it is also used for changing certain phone settings. In this way, it is very similar to Zune players.
I believe MTPZ is also involved in both the official dev-unlock procedure (the Microsoft developer registration tool requires that Zune be running and have connected with the phone) and app deployment (same restriction). I'm not sure about those - it miht be something else that Zune does - but it seems likely.
There are some other possibilities of things you might do with access to the phone (check it for update availability, wipe the phone, configure WiFi sync, rename it, etc.) It also might be possible to change other settings not visible int he GUI, or to access information that is normally hidden (one awesome possibility would be the encryption key used for the backups, though that's a long shot).
Honestly, just finding a way to run the WiFi sync on-demand would be brilliant. Another very cool option would be to directly modify the artist background images and such on the phone.
As for the emulator, it does support app deployment, but I think that's the only thing from the above list that is supported on it. I don't know how much, if any, of MTPZ is implemented in it. It's probably worth trying (it's free, after all) and considering that it's a VM, it's entirely possible that it does use a virtual USB connection (or some other link that you can tap).
Good luck!

Thanks for the reply.
Okay, so MTPZ is at least used for syncing the media files and all that? That's good to know, do you know if those are transferred via regular MTP commands?
Ah, based on the information there about requiring the Zune software running and connected, I'd also venture to say that it's likely, especially considering the plethora of MTPZ and other non-standard MTP opcodes, like "MTPZ_OPCODE_MARKETPLACE_SET_CREDENTIALS".
So it definitely seems that MTPZ was amended to include a bunch of WP7-specific operations, contrary to the handshake-only operations that comprised MTPZ for the Zune.
If the emulator supports app deployment, and that seems to require an MTPZ connection (and therefore the MTPZ authentication), so I think it would be fair to say that I would at least be able to debug a live authentication session. That being said, I'm still unsure of how I would go about using the emulator image to imitate a real, physical WP7 device connected over USB (much the same way that ISO disc images can be used to imitate physical discs) so that the Zune/Mac Connector software believes it is connected to a device. Hopefully somebody can shed some light on if that's possible and how to go about it.
Currently I'm doing a static analysis of the Mac OS X Windows Phone 7 Connector application to get some preliminary notes on the authentication process.

KBHomes said:
Hi, I was wondering if anybody had compiled any information on MTPZ in regards to its usage on Windows Phone 7. Based on preliminary review of the Mac OS X Connector application, the authentication process for MTPZ + Zune is at least somewhat different for MTPZ + WP7.
I've essentially reverse engineered the Zune variety of the MTPZ protocol (which you can read about if you head over to my blog), and I was planning to look into MTPZ on Windows Phone since that might have a larger target audience, but I was hoping to gather some information first:
How is MTPZ used on WP7? Is it what allows one to move files back and forth to the device? In addition, what is an MTPZ session with a Windows Phone device like? Is it just MTPZ authentication operations initially followed by regular MTP (as is the case for Zune devices), or are there MTPZ operations used throughout a session?
What does the Zune software allow you to do with Windows Phone devices? I don't have one of my own.
Has anybody captured a USB/MTP session of the Zune software's communication with a Windows Phone device?
Also just for when/if I begin looking into the protocol:
Do the WP7 emulator images include MTPZ implementations?
Would it somehow be possible to use the emulator image to simulate an actual USB Windows Phone device?
Thanks so much for any information.
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Hi, there were some work on MTPz done by biktor_gj, donpromillo and me on the Nokia Lumia 800 Full Unlock thread (discussion started around page 76, tryouts around page 78-80).
So far, we know that Zune performs operating system backup and restore, send applications and software updates (cab and xaps) and flash updates (FFUs).
donpromillo and biktor_gj have sniffed USB traffic for the backup process.
Thanks for your work on MTPz reverse-engineering!