Hi,
I want to sell my Hero in a few days.
I've got MoDaCo ROM and Amon Ra Recovery on it.
Is it possible to get that back?
I want to have the Hero so, as it is if it come out of the box.
Can anybody please explain, whats to do?
afaik you can make it as stock as possible with an ruu update.
but you wouldn't do the buyer a favor if he wants to hack it, as he would have to go through the goldcard process, so maybe just leave as is and flash a stock update.zip over it?
OK, but then, the Hero doesn't have any guarantee in germany, right?
Formel-LMS said:
OK, but then, the Hero doesn't have any guarantee in germany, right?
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i am not really sure about the whole "losing warranty (which is the right word btw ) by modding it" thing... probably htc will charge you if your phone is bricked from software modding, they shouldn't do it if it was modded and then the hardware breaks in an unrelated matter... how old is your hero, the warranty is only 6 months anyway.
if you want to be on the safe side flash an ruu, if you want to be nice ask the buyer first...
Yeah, I wan't to ask. That's best.
Warranty, yes, I don't think about it long enough.
Thank you for reply, kendong!
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Yeah, I wan't to ask. That's best.
Warranty, yes, I don't think about it long enough.
Thank you for reply, kendong!
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no problem, and it is kendon, i had to put the g2 (as in t-mobile g2 touch) at the end since kendon was already taken (probably be me in a former life...), and of course i wasn't smart enough to put a _ in between...
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Ok, i know this is a question in the dev section but i think it belongs here, if mods think different then please move.
As the title says really - if i choose not to try the S-OFF - will i be left behind later on down the line with regard to custom ROM's??
If i bricked my phone the wife would go bonkers, so i am really wary at the moment with trying it as there is a higher chance of bricking it. Anyhow thats a seperate issue..
So maybe some devs can answer my question??.. Am i at some point gonna have to take the plunge or is it more of a nice thing to have, more than a necessity?
Or is there likely to be a later version that has a lesser chance of bricking if does go wrong??
Cheers all for any replies..
I think that if a custom ROM requires S-OFF it will have a good reason, or the dev is being lazy.
Also HTC is very likely to plug the exploit that gives S-OFF at some point, if it's possible to do so.
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You dont need a security unlocked device, there will be no diffrence apart from the fact you wont have any write access to the nand chip while the device is booted
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Kool.. So more of a nice thing to have rather than a must!. Appreciate replies.. I will hold off doing it.
Cheers
wingnutta said:
Kool.. So more of a nice thing to have rather than a must!. Appreciate replies.. I will hold off doing it.
Cheers
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It really is a simple procedure though, its as easy as booting a live cd, connectiong your device and pressing enter
AndroHero said:
It really is a simple procedure though, its as easy as booting a live cd, connectiong your device and pressing enter
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I do agree from what i have read, but for me personally the risk at this time is too much.. If anything did go wrong i would be kicking myself.
Maybe at a later date as i said if a more less risky version comes out.
wingnutta said:
I do agree from what i have read, but for me personally the risk at this time is too much.. If anything did go wrong i would be kicking myself.
Maybe at a later date as i said if a more less risky version comes out.
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No such thing. It's not the application that's risky, it's the procedure in general. You're in essence flashing the lowest level of your phone, if it fails the phone will be useless but the chance of it failing is almost negligible.
one thing i am willing to ask. does that mean that turning security to off, you do not need to pay for unlock codes? you can just turn s-off and flash a rom and it will unlock the phone?
sorry for the dumb question!
S-OFF won't sim unlock the phone.
A lot of people are flashing this without knowing what it does, which is just plain stupid. The risk is minimal, but there is a risk that it will totally brick the phone permanently. Nobody should flash it unless they want to use S-OFF for something. It'll also absolutely guaranteed to void the warranty, there's no way HTC will touch a phone if you return it with the S-OFF bootloader (though it is easy to remove).
At the moment it's most useful for devs, in order to test changes without the need for reboot/recovery/reboot.
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S-OFF won't sim unlock the phone.
A lot of people are flashing this without knowing what it does, which is just plain stupid. The risk is minimal, but there is a risk that it will totally brick the phone permanently. Nobody should flash it unless they want to use S-OFF for something. It'll also absolutely guaranteed to void the warranty, there's no way HTC will touch a phone if you return it with the S-OFF bootloader (though it is easy to remove).
At the moment it's most useful for devs, in order to test changes without the need for reboot/recovery/reboot.
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no need for normal usage of the phone ... you can also do all without s-off ... with s-off you dont have to reboot everytime ...
teppic74 said:
S-OFF won't sim unlock the phone.
A lot of people are flashing this without knowing what it does, which is just plain stupid. The risk is minimal, but there is a risk that it will totally brick the phone permanently....
At the moment it's most useful for devs, in order to test changes without the need for reboot/recovery/reboot.
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That statement will do me nicely! Me not a dev...
I'm asking on behalf of a friend of mine who doesnt actually have a computer so he cant post here himself to ask. I'm a vibrant/N1/G1 user myself, so i'm familiar with the aspects here: he has a slide, has the split-screen/ribbon problem on opening/closing the keyboard. He managed to get a warranty replacement from TMO, but he's super paranoid about having to pay the damages fee because he has CM loaded on it instead of the stock firmware.
Bottom line, he wants to brick it just to be sure before he sends it back (he already has the replacement phone). What is the simplest way (that I could explain to him over the phone) to hard brick the phone?
Quick and dirty is all I really need to help him get the job done, all help much appreciated!
If he can brick it, then he can flash the factory ROM that is available to bring it back to unrooted stated. Why not just do that?
-sigh- I guess he can just try to follow the S-OFF instructions to where it says not 2 power off, take out battery- disconnect phone... do the oppsite of what it says not to do? Just saying though... why not just do what Fermunky said?
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If he can brick it, then he can flash the factory ROM that is available to bring it back to unrooted stated. Why not just do that?
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Just saying though... why not just do what Fermunky said?
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Problem is that he lives in virginia and I live in colorado. I rooted and customized his phone when I was out there visiting because he's completely inept at this kind of stuff, so I was just looking for a simpler solution than to try and walk him through a reflash over the phone. Plus, apparently what he told the TMO reps was that he got an OTA update and it bricked him, which is the only way (he said) that they'd do a warranty exchange.
Well, I guess your short answer is No, there is no "quick" way. Whether you try to brick it or not, either way will require some attempt at flashing "something", but to just do it in a completely wrong way. Maybe by connecting to a PC and using clever ADB/Shell commands could also do it, but not entirely sure.
Couldn't you flash the radio for say, a Droid X or any CDMA radio?
I know you can brick CDMA phones by flashing GSM radios.
And yay Colorado ;D
I'm going to have to close this as it's discussing warranty fraud.
Need to downgrade latest, 2.3.3 back to 2.2. anyone got anything for me?
There are countless threads on this subject in the Q&A forum. Please remember the forum rules before posting in the development board.
Thank you.
b0ricua said:
There are countless threads on this subject in the Q&A forum. Please remember the forum rules before posting in the development board.
Thank you.
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Not again?! Sorry, will have better judgement next time. Good day mida'!
just sent email to admin to please remove..
Tekn010933 said:
Need to downgrade latest, 2.3.3 back to 2.2. anyone got anything for me?
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Simply flash a 2.2 ROM...
Sooks said:
Simply flash a 2.2 ROM...
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depends on what he's wanting to do..if he's rooted trying to go stock or keep froyo with root, also, if he's stock GB and wants to go back to froyo, won't happen, hBoot versions different and will pop up with a message saying the update is too new or something like that.
so a little info on his part will help us out by helping him out!
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Need to downgrade latest, 2.3.3 back to 2.2. anyone got anything for me?
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latest one, it's a pain getting out..
You didn't answer pnewgaards question. Most important one to know.
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latest one, it's a pain getting out..
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Sorry, just so frustrated getting out of the latest. 2.3.3 / 4.24.651.1 was a new device and came preinstalled and updated. Been trying again today unsuccessfully, I feel so out of place with the only one in here unrooted?? LOL
Anyhows was really looking into on just delparting it(networkingskills) starting to take over my thoughts. Hell with it, delpart it n ,get dos boot disk made from win2000 to recreate Rom from cmd prompts?
Is there such a wipe? Mean just wipe all clean without it going back to recovery to reboot from?
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pnewgaard said:
depends on what he's wanting to do..if he's rooted trying to go stock or keep froyo with root, also, if he's stock GB and wants to go back to froyo, won't happen, hBoot versions different and will pop up with a message saying the update is too new or something like that.
so a little info on his part will help us out by helping him out!
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Sorry, just so frustrated getting out of the latest. 2.3.3 / 4.24.651.1 was a new device and came preinstalled and updated. Been trying again today unsuccessfully, I feel so out of place with the only one in here unrooted?? LOL
Anyhows was really looking into on just delparting it(networkingskills) starting to take over my thoughts. Hell with it, delpart it n ,get dos boot disk made from win2000 to recreate Rom from cmd prompts?
Is there such a wipe? Mean just wipe all clean without it going back to recovery to reboot from?
Sent from a very EvoMan
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Simply flash a 2.2 ROM...
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUcja3jNRW0
i tried that last week and its not gonna work because the new software doesnt allow for the downgrade and theres no root method for the new ota yet. im in the same boat as you and theres plenty of other people dealing with the same issue. all we you can is just sit tight and wait for someone to come up with something...sry dude
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i tried that last week and its not gonna work because the new software doesnt allow for the downgrade and theres no root method for the new ota yet. im in the same boat as you and theres plenty of other people dealing with the same issue. all we you can is just sit tight and wait for someone to come up with something...sry dude
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Don't know if you heard the GREAT News?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20078309-94/htc-gives-timeline-for-unlocking-bootloaders/
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Don't know if you heard the GREAT News?
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-20078309-94/htc-gives-timeline-for-unlocking-bootloaders/
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Whats the good news? They dont mention the EVO4G in there, and they wont unlock it either. Its almost to its EOL, they want us to buy new phones so why unlock it?
My 2¢
if you have another sprint phone.....
Call sprint, swap esn to other phone.
Sell yours on craigslist.
Buy another one on craigslist that's rooted (call and swap esn to phone to make sure it works)
Go home, install whatever you want.
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My 2¢
if you have another sprint phone.....
Call sprint, swap esn to other phone.
Sell yours on craigslist.
Buy another one on craigslist that's rooted (call and swap esn to phone to make sure it works)
Go home, install whatever you want.
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MY 2 cents
Buy another one on craigslist that's rooted (call and swap esn to phone to make sure it works)
Call sprint, swap esn to other phone.
Sell yours on craigslist.
install whatever you want
ok u want to try this
use a stock 2.2 ota rom not a RUU just a .zip 2.2
go into recovery
remember vol up + power
on the blue letters and black screen select flash .zip
select install .zip from sdcard
please let me know what happens
i'm currently rooted...
just trying to help u
pretty sure that wont work fennix, if you are S-on and hboot 2.16 , pretty sure its been tried before and not working , but perhaps somone might be luckier
dont have a nanoid backup for old roms i do
hi I'm pretty new to the android os and I'm thinking about jailbreaking my HTC one x (tegra) to get jellybean, which im sick of waiting for and to get better performance. the thing is, iv read/watched a lot of guides on how to jailbreak/flash the one x and there is some confusing points and points in which the guides contradicts themselves. so just a few questions:
can you revert back to factory settings at any point? iv read in some guides that its impossible, I can't see why though?
what exactly is a ruu? is it the equivalent to a bios? is hboot a ruu?
I know that it is possible to brick your phone if you delete the ruu (hence why you use clockworkmod) but it seems stupid that the phone won't even know how to charge itself, is it that easy to brick?
iv heard that you can update the kernal, what's the advantage of doing this?
any tips on what to do and avoid when doing this, we all have to start somewhere
iv been using this as a main reference for the Rom I'm wanting to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
thanks in advance
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hi I'm pretty new to the android os and I'm thinking about jailbreaking my HTC one x (tegra) to get jellybean, which im sick of waiting for and to get better performance. the thing is, iv read/watched a lot of guides on how to jailbreak/flash the one x and there is some confusing points and points in which the guides contradicts themselves. so just a few questions:
can you revert back to factory settings at any point? iv read in some guides that its impossible, I can't see why though?
what exactly is a ruu? is it the equivalent to a bios? is hboot a ruu?
I know that it is possible to brick your phone if you delete the ruu (hence why you use clockworkmod) but it seems stupid that the phone won't even know how to charge itself, is it that easy to brick?
iv heard that you can update the kernal, what's the advantage of doing this?
any tips on what to do and avoid when doing this, we all have to start somewhere
iv been using this as a main reference for the Rom I'm wanting to use.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1601543
thanks in advance
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a RUU is a leaked official version of an update, it is like a custom rom but it is stock and from HTC... when you buy an HTC phone it has certain RUU installed on it.
jailbreak is for iphones (which everyone here should hate), use the word "root" and "S-OFF" and "unlocked bootloader" when you are using an android phone
you can revert back to stock only if the RUU that you're on it has already been leaked.
the HOX is very very hard to brick! but sometimes i see cases of soft-brick which is easy to solve by the way.
our phone unfortunately doesn't have S-OFF (like almost every HTC phone out there except for the ONE X) so every time you flash a rom you have to flash the corresponding boot.img which contains important file to let your phone run with a certain custom rom.
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a RUU is a leaked official version of an update, it is like a custom rom but it is stock and from HTC... when you buy an HTC phone it has certain RUU installed on it.
jailbreak is for iphones (which everyone here should hate), use the word "root" and "S-OFF" and "unlocked bootloader" when you are using an android phone
you can revert back to stock only if the RUU that you're on it has already been leaked.
the HOX is very very hard to brick! but sometimes i see cases of soft-brick which is easy to solve by the way.
our phone unfortunately doesn't have S-OFF (like almost every HTC phone out there except for the ONE X) so every time you flash a rom you have to flash the corresponding boot.img which contains important file to let your phone run with a certain custom rom.
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Thanks for the swift reply, sorry I called it that, I had a iPhone for years but I ended up hating it(just it as a mp3 player now lol).
Well I currently havent done anything to my one x so its stock, but what I'm saying/asking is, surely I can just load a stock Rom and bootloader and be back to square one?
And as for the rom/boot.IMG I can see why it is a bit more complicated. So what's, in your opinion, the biggest reason to/you've flashed from stock?
Thanks again!
There is no way for 100% back to stock (for now). Unlocking bootloader voids your warranty.
Why unlock and flash cutom rom? - Custom roms are far better than stock, better performance, longer battery life... no limit of customizing your phone.
The downside for me is only loosing warranty.
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Thanks for the swift reply, sorry I called it that, I had a iPhone for years but I ended up hating it(just it as a mp3 player now lol).
Well I currently havent done anything to my one x so its stock, but what I'm saying/asking is, surely I can just load a stock Rom and bootloader and be back to square one?
And as for the rom/boot.IMG I can see why it is a bit more complicated. So what's, in your opinion, the biggest reason to/you've flashed from stock?
Thanks again!
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because every phone i buy (android of course) will get rooted! custom roms are awesome, and nerdy
So once you unlock your bootloader and put a new Rom on you loose your warrenty because you can't revert and hide the fact that's what you did?
Hmm I don't know if I should mess with this then, I would but iv not long got my phone back from warranty because of the hardware WiFi issue.
Can anyone really sell to me why I should flash? I mean I'm interested in doing it.
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So once you unlock your bootloader and put a new Rom on you loose your warrenty because you can't revert and hide the fact that's what you did?
Hmm I don't know if I should mess with this then, I would but iv not long got my phone back from warranty because of the hardware WiFi issue.
Can anyone really sell to me why I should flash? I mean I'm interested in doing it.
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yes, you can't hide, once you have unlocked, that you have voided your warranty... you won't ever have something as stable and fast as custom roms, that's why you should root and unlock your phone
right so better proformace and better battery, is there anything else you root for? i mean what does everyone else root for, for that matter?? i mean i keep looking at my phone and thinking. Hmmm should i, shouldent i? lol
I have a rooted phone, and currently in the troubleshooting process of trying to get a free upgrade due to the speakerphone issue. The tech ask for the version, and I hung up because its rooted, and against warranty. I know I have to eventually convert it back to stock, but I don't want to convert it, and be wasting time.
Could someone give me the current firmware information so I could tell them when prompted?
I see this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1895400
but what else do I need to tell the tech when asked? Thank you.
Wrong section. However...
Did you flash a custom rom? did you flash a different radio? If you've answered no to both these questions then you are still running the stock firmware except for the recovery.
I'm so limited to posts on xda, this was the only place I could. It is a custom. slimstar. Custom kernel and rom
adreano17 said:
I'm so limited to posts on xda, this was the only place I could. It is a custom. slimstar. Custom kernel and rom
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Did you get it from T-Mobile or the Telus/Koodo one?
Also when did you buy it?
Koragg618 said:
Did you get it from T-Mobile or the Telus/Koodo one?
Also when did you buy it?
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tmo. last febuary. I have the extended warranty as well
adreano17 said:
tmo. last febuary. I have the extended warranty as well
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your best bet is to reset the flash counter and unroot the phone and then its back to stock
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your best bet is to reset the flash counter and unroot the phone and then its back to stock
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I know lol. I don't want to go through that hassle right now though. Thought it would be better if I just knew the info lol.
adreano17 said:
I know lol. I don't want to go through that hassle right now though. Thought it would be better if I just knew the info lol.
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yeah either way your gonna have to go through the "hassle". If you are going to warranty the phone they will ask for the you to send them in your current phone and if the warranty is voided by say custom roms you can be charge up to the value of the phone.
MIght as well get it over with and back up your info and odin that ish up. Honestly it doesn't take that long and do you really need root for the next 2 -3 days....