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Hi, i m very happy with the new rom but i have a problem.
I set my emails accounts to periodically (30 minutes) check the account. With other roms when the precess was done then the connection was closed. With the new ROM the UMTS connection keeps stablished and the battery is out in a few hours. Does somebody know how to avoid it??
Thanks...
Same problem here... anybody??
Thanks in advance.
-......and the "always on" is set to 0.....
I am afraid that would undermine the whole definition of Push Mail. So it could very well be that it is impossible.
I remember reading an article about Push Mail and there one of the Microsoft engineers has been talking about that if you use GPRS the battery consumption is much and much less. But hey then whty buy a 3G phone. Also as I understand the GPRS is not able to properly handle the GSM simultaneously. At least I know in QTEK 110S when GPRS is actively downloading data you are unreachable for calls.... UMTS makes that possible.
I suppose it...but now ...
1) I cant automatically check my email (the connection keeps on)
2) I cant automatillally download the weather forecast(the connection keeps on).
......
I cant schedule any application that uses any connection because it keeps on and it drains the battery very quickly.
What can i do?
thanks
the weather program should have a seeting to use an active connection if av ailable. At least I have seen it in some weather programs. And if yours does not have it then get another one.
About other progs that need a connection. If I start IE I can just start browsing and works fine.
About you not being able to automatically check e-mail? I thought you enabled the Push email so what are you talking abouy. It automatically pushes emails to you ?????
ye, yes but what i want is when the program (mail, pocket weather, etc) finishs to use the connection then it is shutted down by the OS.
My job is Windows CE software developer and this is a problem. BEFORE (with old roms) when a program needs a connection the it requests a connection to the Connection manager. Then after use it, the program usually release it (using the connection manager). When no programs needs a connection then the connection manager shutted down the connection (if it was GPRS or UMTS). With the new ROM the connection manager doesnt shut down the connection.....
Yea you are right....
It is the disconnect part.
Well the battery drain is more then.
But hey I am not so bothered because I can load the battery at home in the office and in the car and when I go on vacation I turn the Pushmail offf
semi solved
Hi,
I ve wrote a little C program, 5 Kb. This program monitor any posible GPRS=UMTS connection. If it detects that this connection isnt used in 1 minute(no incoming bytes in one minute) then the connection will be closed.
this program hasnt UI so you will not see anything when you execute it. I will improve it adding a botton icon allowing the set the "one minute" parameter and the posibility to exit it....Obviously the program doesnt run when the device is suspended......
.. it should be placed in \windows\startup folder to run after each reset....
Hi dherrero,
Thanks for posting a great program. I had exactly the same issue as this but your program works perfectly and it disconnects it when the connection is not used for a minute or so.
The only probelm I have now is I equally get disconnected by this program when I am browsing websites with PIE and that is very annoying. I would appreciate it if you could modify this program to make it work only for email checking.
Kind regards,
Hi,
I am improving this little program. it isnt finished but it solves your problem. I recommend you to put it in rom and put a link in windows\starup.
When the system boots you will see a little white-blue icon in the bottom-right.
If you click this icon you will see a screen that show:
1) Bytes received in current connection.
2) Connections that the program has closed.
3) Startup time.
4) Connections checks done. (one each 30 seconds)
5) Last check date
6) Last close date.
And 4 buttons .
1) Disable: It's interesting for you. It disables the action of closing the connections.
2) Enable. The opposite. (by default it is enabled)
3) OK. Hide this screen
4) Close: Close the program.....
I hope it is usefull to you....
You can try also this: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
hi dherrero
from where can I download your prog?
tx for help
You have to login, or register if you havent, and you will see the link.....
Hi dherrero,
Thanks for getting back so promptly. It works nice on my device and now I can manually disable it directly from the Today screen when I need to.
A minor problem I found is that the characters on the Connection Manager control panel get truncated. This is probably due the fact that I have a Japanese ttc font installed to replace the default system font by tweaking the registry "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink\".
I hope this helps your development. Thanks again...
Hi again,
I always develop in VGA, using ozVGA. Now i ve changed the positions and now it looks correctly in vga and sevga.
Hi dherrero,
Thanks a lot!
It now runs flawlessly...
Hello there,
I have an exchange server configuration on my Trinity, and i have a strange problem. The device keeps automatically connecting using 3g/gprs, which, besides eating a lot of bandwith drains my battery fast!
Is there a way to prevent this? i have set on activesync the peek and off peak time to conect manualy but it keeps doing it.....is there a way to solve this? like making the device to auto-disconnect after like minute of inactivity? any ideas?!?
Im using the latest indigo_lite rom but i used to have the same problema with other roms.... i didnt on any wm5 rom beucase i got this account a few days ago.
All the best,
OliveiraJMR
Joao Oliveira said:
Hello there,
I have an exchange server configuration on my Trinity, and i have a strange problem. The device keeps automatically connecting using 3g/gprs, which, besides eating a lot of bandwith drains my battery fast!
Is there a way to prevent this? i have set on activesync the peek and off peak time to conect manualy but it keeps doing it.....is there a way to solve this? like making the device to auto-disconnect after like minute of inactivity? any ideas?!?
Im using the latest indigo_lite rom but i used to have the same problema with other roms.... i didnt on any wm5 rom beucase i got this account a few days ago.
All the best,
OliveiraJMR
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"Use above settings when roaming" should be OFF, if you want to disable automatic connecting be GPRS
I've have set is to ON because I do want to check it once every hour at peak times.
Battery is on 80% after a day, that's less battery drain then b4 or with AX3L's ROM, etc.
Hello,
Thanks for you anwser,
I have set all this and still connects from time to time....and it doesnt auto disconnect the gprs/3g connections...this is what is causing the battery drain...
thanks,
OliveiraJMR
Turn off your infrared port. That alone makes a lot of difference.
Hi,
isn't the Roaming option more about data connection when connected to a provider other than yours? A least, this is the way my Trinity behaves. I have this option off and this avoids data connection when I'm out of the country.
As far as I'm concerned, when choosing "manually" for sync schedule, I do not get automatic connection. Maybe some other application doing this (say wheather application or newsreader, browser, etc...)?
This said, I'm usually set up for a sync "as items arrive" and so have a permanent data connection running. Even with this connection I'm down to 26-34mA of energy consumption when Trinity is IDLE and it doesn't take to much bandwith either as it only maintains an https tunnel open without however exchanging data, except when there's something to sync (mail, appointment, contact, etc...).
Bye.
another thing : What's the version of your Radio ROM ? If it's an old version, you might want to consider to upgrade to a 1.46.xx.11 version. Made a big difference for myself.
Disable Push e-mail.
If you want to prevent your device from automaticly dialing up in order to check your email, then you should disable direct-push in your Communication manager.
(of course you loose the benefits of direct push while its turned off)
PS.: There is also a button for disconnecting from data network, this will only work after you turned off direct push.
Hope that was what you were asking for.
Have a nice weekend.
I Found the problem...
I was the weather app that was connecting randomly
Still if i left the connection on it drains my battery fast ?!?! I think i will try another rom or someting
Thanks again,
OliveirAJMR
Joao Oliveira said:
I Found the problem...
I was the weather app that was connecting randomly
Still if i left the connection on it drains my battery fast ?!?! I think i will try another rom or someting
Thanks again,
OliveirAJMR
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What's your RADIO ROM version ?
What's your powerdrain (you can get it with BatteryStatus) ?
Joao Oliveira said:
I Found the problem...
I was the weather app that was connecting randomly
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Things are never as they seem...
the Data connection is turning on on a regular basis and I can't find any scheduled tasks set up to access the Internet, but some rogue program is? any ideas any one and/or any way I get find out what is causing this.
I have the same problem.. And I'm a little bit tired!
I wrote on this thread with no answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529622
I have a flat data plane but I don't like that PDA face things on his own initiative!!
me neither, I'm in charge - not my new toy! Lets hope someone helps us out this time round.
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
itm said:
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well, I don't use funambol.. And anyway: there are no program in task manamager! So: something is going wrong with manila..
I had the same 'problem', but my brother suggested to turn it off and on again. It did work as far as I could see.
I think it may be google maps causing this, but I'm not sure (and don't really care, since this 'solution' worked).
Any number of added apps can be doing this (Worldmate live is a bad one for example) or any apps still running and not shut down.
Obvious things to check first are:
Do you have automatic email check set?
Have you disabled auto-update in weather and stock quotes?
This drives me crazy too, afaik I have turned off everything yet it keeps turning on... A fix would be highly appreciated!
its the activesync...
turn it off, i mean, delete the settings and you'll be fine. activesync triggers automatic data sync, hence turning on the data connection
I use ActiveSync and don't have this problem. If it was ActiveSync, why would it cause the problem for some and not others ?
itm said:
2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well.. I tested all day.. And I can say that I solved the problem!!!
I think that last time I closed gmaps.. I answered in a bad way to the question about updating Glatitude..
So: Gmaps seemed close but it was updating my position on the net!!!
When i opened gmaps i could see my avatar in the map.. So i understand that it was still online..
So.. I think I've solved!
Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
Thank you for your advices.
Glad you worked it out.
I put this in the developers forum a while back. Maybe someone smarter than me will work out a solution to this sort of problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530634
As with the poster here. You will have an application that you have inadvertently set to autoupdate. The only thorough solution is to go through every program on your phone and check each setting meticulously. Alternatively. Back up your personal data and hard reset. Then reinstall your apps one by one, testing for an hour after each one. Eventually, you will find the offending app and can work on finding the setting in it to stop it connecting to the net.
Hi all,
the thing is there are dozen possibilities: activesync, alle gps-stuff, all auto-updates. So instead off looking up all these settings, you could also use the nodata.cab - works fine (phone need to be unlocked!)
greetz to all
Kjoere
thanks for all the posts, haven't checked for a while. I have checked everything and noting is set to auto update so very strange and annoying. Will try the nodata.cab - if I can find it?
DJ Palmis said:
Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
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Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
download Modaco Nodata
frogfoot said:
Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
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Thank you! That is very interesting.
It also can be the build-in Facebook app in Contacts in manila. It has feature to automaticly update in 2 hours. At least, I had mine turned on as default.
The only reliable and "ultimate" solution is really Modaco NoData as mentioned above.
On the other hand not taking third party apps in count, basic traffic of HTC device is nothing to be scared of. Updates for weather, stocks and A-GPS are just few bytes in size... Obviously, GMaps, mail autocheck, Messenger etc. are different story, but none of these are started on their own... BTW, ActiveSync has nothing to do with Internet with one exception - Exchange mail sync, if you have any.
What you have to understand, is behaviour of the active data indicator (small G, E or H next to signal strength). If it's there does not mean, that any data are transferred at the moment. It just indicates opened data slot with current brodcasting tower in the cell. It could stay opened for hours after trasfer even just of few bytes. It closes usually only for two reasons - your phone switches to another cell (and has no reason to open data slot again) or the tower is busy and closes inactive slots to gain more capacity.
Except few rare cases in some coutries you're charged only for data transferred, not for time of the connection and therefore it doesn't matter. In Europe from 1st of July (some new EU limit) one Mb shouldn't cost more than 50 cents and with these basic updates you will NEVER reach it in one month...
Obviously, roaming is another story, but in settings of the standard services you can limit updates just for your country.
Posted this @ PPC ... wanted to see if someone over here could shed some light on this for me... I have searched and the only things that I come up with are to disable the connection (manually, nodata... etc), and "there has to be something keeping it active"
It seems like many of us are having issues with the data connection not terminating after x amount of seconds. (myself included) What I am seeing with my own phone is that it will connect, download data, then go to idle (yet still active) It never seems to enter the inactive state, which is where the disconnect feature comes into play. I have searched the registry, and the only disconnect references that I can find all point to it being in the inactive state.
Does anybody know where the registry entries would be that directs the data connection to go from active/idle to inactive? I can confirm that my phone is connected by the solid white arrows next to the 3G icon, but when you bring up SPB Wireless, it shows no current activity.
Hopefully this provides enough clarification so that someone with more RegEdit experience can chime in...
Thanks
Do you by any chance have Microsoft Direct Push enabled? That will try to maintain your data connection.
(I've seen active sync go pretty wierd things. Nothing a good "End task" wont fix..)
motoq9h said:
Do you by any chance have Microsoft Direct Push enabled? That will try to maintain your data connection.
(I've seen active sync go pretty wierd things. Nothing a good "End task" wont fix..)
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Well... here's the thing.... I have disabled direct push for the internet... but I am not sure where the Microsoft direct push is. I have noticed on occasion that the direct push will be active (but greyed) momentarily when i close the data connection.... maybe that has something to do with it....
So now where is the direct push disable?
ttlycnfuzd said:
Well... here's the thing.... I have disabled direct push for the internet... but I am not sure where the Microsoft direct push is. I have noticed on occasion that the direct push will be active (but greyed) momentarily when i close the data connection.... maybe that has something to do with it....
So now where is the direct push disable?
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Are you using Activesync? Look under schedules there.. If you say "As items arrive", it will try to maintain the connection.
Nope, direct push will try to use the data connection first - so when u turn off the data connection, it will turn off, but you can turn it back on over wireless.
motoq9h said:
Are you using Activesync? Look under schedules there.. If you say "As items arrive", it will try to maintain the connection.
Nope, direct push will try to use the data connection first - so when u turn off the data connection, it will turn off, but you can turn it back on over wireless.
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No active sync.... iv even deleted poutlook from the startup, as I only have pop/imap accounts set up for manual download....
Like i said tho... i find it odd that it will open the connection, stay active (but idle), and never go into the inactive state....
The behaviour is by design on Windows Mobile. Imagine having to reconnect again and again and again on your PC's broadband connection after a period of inactivity.
You can also disconnect right there and then by pressing the END CALL key for 3 seconds.
What is odd, is when I first got the phone it did not do this behavior... but with that said... and the fact that there is no noticeable change in battery life, I guess it becomes sort of moot....
I don't sync my tilt2 to often. maybe once very 2 weeks, but even after removing through MSCONFIG, and uruninstaller, it keeps loading itself. Tried killsync, temp solution. WHat I would like to do is run it manually when needed and then sync, not have it sit in standby mode..
Any help appreciated.
Have a great day!
It loads from HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run. Delete key "H/PC Connection Agent". Each time you run ActiveSync, it writes his autorun keys, so I do not see a way to prevent this. But, I'm a developer, so I often need for connection with my device.
Thank you for the reply and info. I'm shocked how you guys know all this stuff..BRAVO MAN!
I guess the only solution is to install/uninstall as I use it..
Thanks again!