Hi, i m very happy with the new rom but i have a problem.
I set my emails accounts to periodically (30 minutes) check the account. With other roms when the precess was done then the connection was closed. With the new ROM the UMTS connection keeps stablished and the battery is out in a few hours. Does somebody know how to avoid it??
Thanks...
Same problem here... anybody??
Thanks in advance.
-......and the "always on" is set to 0.....
I am afraid that would undermine the whole definition of Push Mail. So it could very well be that it is impossible.
I remember reading an article about Push Mail and there one of the Microsoft engineers has been talking about that if you use GPRS the battery consumption is much and much less. But hey then whty buy a 3G phone. Also as I understand the GPRS is not able to properly handle the GSM simultaneously. At least I know in QTEK 110S when GPRS is actively downloading data you are unreachable for calls.... UMTS makes that possible.
I suppose it...but now ...
1) I cant automatically check my email (the connection keeps on)
2) I cant automatillally download the weather forecast(the connection keeps on).
......
I cant schedule any application that uses any connection because it keeps on and it drains the battery very quickly.
What can i do?
thanks
the weather program should have a seeting to use an active connection if av ailable. At least I have seen it in some weather programs. And if yours does not have it then get another one.
About other progs that need a connection. If I start IE I can just start browsing and works fine.
About you not being able to automatically check e-mail? I thought you enabled the Push email so what are you talking abouy. It automatically pushes emails to you ?????
ye, yes but what i want is when the program (mail, pocket weather, etc) finishs to use the connection then it is shutted down by the OS.
My job is Windows CE software developer and this is a problem. BEFORE (with old roms) when a program needs a connection the it requests a connection to the Connection manager. Then after use it, the program usually release it (using the connection manager). When no programs needs a connection then the connection manager shutted down the connection (if it was GPRS or UMTS). With the new ROM the connection manager doesnt shut down the connection.....
Yea you are right....
It is the disconnect part.
Well the battery drain is more then.
But hey I am not so bothered because I can load the battery at home in the office and in the car and when I go on vacation I turn the Pushmail offf
semi solved
Hi,
I ve wrote a little C program, 5 Kb. This program monitor any posible GPRS=UMTS connection. If it detects that this connection isnt used in 1 minute(no incoming bytes in one minute) then the connection will be closed.
this program hasnt UI so you will not see anything when you execute it. I will improve it adding a botton icon allowing the set the "one minute" parameter and the posibility to exit it....Obviously the program doesnt run when the device is suspended......
.. it should be placed in \windows\startup folder to run after each reset....
Hi dherrero,
Thanks for posting a great program. I had exactly the same issue as this but your program works perfectly and it disconnects it when the connection is not used for a minute or so.
The only probelm I have now is I equally get disconnected by this program when I am browsing websites with PIE and that is very annoying. I would appreciate it if you could modify this program to make it work only for email checking.
Kind regards,
Hi,
I am improving this little program. it isnt finished but it solves your problem. I recommend you to put it in rom and put a link in windows\starup.
When the system boots you will see a little white-blue icon in the bottom-right.
If you click this icon you will see a screen that show:
1) Bytes received in current connection.
2) Connections that the program has closed.
3) Startup time.
4) Connections checks done. (one each 30 seconds)
5) Last check date
6) Last close date.
And 4 buttons .
1) Disable: It's interesting for you. It disables the action of closing the connections.
2) Enable. The opposite. (by default it is enabled)
3) OK. Hide this screen
4) Close: Close the program.....
I hope it is usefull to you....
You can try also this: http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
hi dherrero
from where can I download your prog?
tx for help
You have to login, or register if you havent, and you will see the link.....
Hi dherrero,
Thanks for getting back so promptly. It works nice on my device and now I can manually disable it directly from the Today screen when I need to.
A minor problem I found is that the characters on the Connection Manager control panel get truncated. This is probably due the fact that I have a Japanese ttc font installed to replace the default system font by tweaking the registry "HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\FontLink\SystemLink\".
I hope this helps your development. Thanks again...
Hi again,
I always develop in VGA, using ozVGA. Now i ve changed the positions and now it looks correctly in vga and sevga.
Hi dherrero,
Thanks a lot!
It now runs flawlessly...
Related
I have had an XDA IIs for a week and the thing is *riddled* with bugs. A few that come to mind:
Add a new profile to connection manager and then add a 'modem' to that connection. Go and fiddle elsewhere for a while. Often when you come back to change the settings for that connection the 'modem' has dissapeared. (its still there, a soft reset will cause it to re-appear).
Take the unit out of range of your wifi while running an app that does nots of network activity, and you will have to do a soft reset in order to restore network connectivity. This occurs mainly with skype
WiFi Reception is **attrocious** my laptop will tell me that I have a full signal and the XDA IIs will barely register when at the same location. Even holding the damned thing 1 ft from the base station does not cause the signal indicator to head to maximum.
When you use bluetooth, for network access, all the stuff in connection manager gets reset.
Often, after setting connection manager to always use certain profiles, and then encountering a problem, you head into connection manager and find that your selections never stuck
VPN connections do not always stick when set, they dissapear from the menu.
I have tried for ages and failed to make a VPN connection over anything GPRS, WiFi etc. VPN was one of the reasons that I bought the device (access to home and work networks), but it just does not work. Additionally, the instructions with the unit offer no help about how to get it working.
The bundled O2 active stuff is very flaky. Take the end programs applet - it often crashes its self while trying to force an app that is 'not responding' to stop. The built in 'stop app' applet (which they burried in settings) seems to work but...
Getting an app in a not responding state is well easy - just use it normally! Messenger prog is the worst. Usually requires use of 'end now' option
IMAP support is very very bad. Its quite common for an IMAP server to not store mail folders in the root. In decent clients you can specify the root imap folder, not in pocket outlook, it ends up pulling the entire dir struct from your home dir!! I rebuilt the imap daemon on my linux box to compile in a default root folder. This solved the previous problem, but the imap support is not suitable for use away from wifi cause its so damned slow. It does not just look for new messages, and there is no way to tell it to do this. Also, when you send an item it ends up in the default sent items, not the imap sent items. Imho, the main reason to use imap is to keep your emails intact (be able to see what you sent from the mobile device from a desktop).
Outlook 2K3 on the desktop has the same issue btw, but at least that supports rules so you can put it right.
Billy wrote pocket outlook for connecting to an exchange server, which, I suspect only 50% of the devices purchaced will ever do. Pocket Oulook *always* starts pointing at the exchange folder structure, not your POP3/IMAP account, and there is no way to config this. Unessesary taps required. Why can I not DELETE the default exchange folders if I dont need them?
There are a load more issues as well... I currently do around 10 soft resets/day. My basis is that a wait of more than 10 secs means that the device has crashed. Perhaps if I was willing to wait 5 mins all the time for it to get its arse into gear then the number of soft resets could be reduced!
I shall have to create me a site with XDA IIs bugs on it. I suspect that most of these issues are also present on other devices using windows mobile 2003 so it aint just gonna be the XDA. MS will likely fix them, and then O2 will take years to make the fixes available to its customers.
To be honest, I wish I had stuck with a symbian based device.
Has *anyone* managed to get a IPSEC/PPTP VPN connection running either via wifi or GPRS???
Has anyone managed to get skype PPC working **reliably** Mine works OK if I sit next to the AP, but I might as well use the PC version if I have to do that. Moving further away causes skype to give up due to lack of bandwidth. WiFi also locks (no network access period) even though the PPC still indicates that it has a single from the AP. The only fix for this is yet another soft reset.
Some other stuff:
Refuses to connect to a network that is not broadcasting the SSID. In general, when you want to add a new box, you can set AP to broadcast SSID, it will then find the network, after it has connected, you can hide the SSID. For future connections from 'pre-registered' boxes, no SSID is required. Not so for the XDA IIs, refuses to connect to a base station that is not broadcasting an SSID, or in some cases, creates a new connection with the name "" (i.e nothing) (which again refuses to connect).
Right, now, if you have 2 wifi networks listed in PPC settings, it will sometimes sit there for ever failing to connect, do a soft reset and it connects.
Another one: you have two connections in the 'configure wireless networks' dialogue, one is 'connecting' other is 'unavailable'. The one that is connecting is obviously not gonna connect despite 100% correct settings, so I select 'remove' it does not dissapear!!!
If I had written this software, the user would see a dialogue box thus 'This network is connecting/connected, are you sure you wish to remove its settings?' Selecting yes, would either terminate the connection attempt, or terminate the connection and then remove the damned setting with no further agro!
In network settings, I often get some *stupid* status info. It sometimes says that my home network is 'available' when I am at work. Clearly it isn't, wifi does not travel 10 miles!
And some more:
Sometimes bluetooth fails to start complaining about insufficient driver space. I write windows KMD's all the time, I suspect its somet daft like a lack of available stack space, or stack recursion. Soft reset cures
Also, sometimes when I try to start bluetooth, I get a daft message saying that the licence for the bluetooth stack has expired!!! It then starts BT and all is OK.
All pretty in-excusable bugs for post beta software. This is MS's 4th attempt now at a mobile operating system and its still a bag of sh1te!
A PDA is supposed to be a productivity tool, not something that you have to put 4 hours into to save yourself an hour. When I pull the damned thing out I want it to do **exactly** what it says on the box.
Bugs in software are inevitable, but this just was not even tested - there are *obvious* bugs that should have been detected in QA and delayed the relrease date. I suspect most users will trip over these issues in the first few hours of use. The workaround for most is a soft reset - the blooming reset switch will be worn out in a week!
My advice: AVOID until they fix some of the bugs. Does O2/MS have a route for bug submissions? I'll write these up as formal bug reports with reproducers and send them off.
If it were not for the appeal of skype/skypeout (only with 10 metres of base station otherwise wifi dies, reset required!) then it would have gone back by now. Not of merchantisable quality imho.
I write C/CPP/Java software for a living, if I let something this bad out the door I'd loose my damned job!
And some more:
- If you reconfig your shortcuts (so you can find stuff!) Then the applets 'camera' and 'O2' always seem to copy themselves back out into the root of StartMenu-->Programs again.
Go into the find applet and get it to do a search that takes some time. Wait for it to get going and then click stop. PDA hangs. It does come back eventually (2-3 mins later), but remains sluggish until you do a soft reset. Trying to suspend while its hung just switches the backlight off!
Wish there was some kind of formal bug raising email address or somet.
Nigel
Agree with you
Got the Orange m2000 variant and have same issues!
wifi has week signal (got 3 overlapping base stations in one open plan office) and can only get 25% signal.
can get vpn connection to work but after a few mins gets bored and drops!
phone reception is poor
bluetooth keeps crashing
going to send back to orange and get a new nokia 6230 and dell pda. cant rely on phone which crashes 10 times a day
Richard
how did you get the VPN to connect at all??
My WiFi connection is marked as 'connects to work' which means that the VPN profiles setup under 'work' should be offered to me. I would expect that after I have wifi up and running, clicking the icon at the top would show:
'Work - Wifi'
Unfortunately, it refuses to show anything other than 'The Internet - Wifi'. If I could get it to connect to wifi using the 'work' profile then perhaps it would show me by VPN connections underneath so that I could connect these too, but it **refuses** to do so.
BBB
(BuggedBeyondBelief)
Nigel
More issues
Hi
I have been adding new bugs to my original post as I find them. Here's a couple more:
Sometimes (no real causer for this) When the WLan auto disables its self (set to 5 mins), I will head into the Wireless Lan manager, tick the 'Wireless lan ON' box and click OK.
It still stays disabled!!!
I then head back into the wireless Lan manager, and find that my tick did not stick, same result if I try again. The only way to get the Wlan back is to restart the damned thing.
Additionally, if I go into tools-->network cards from the wireless lan manager, it says that the Wlan is 'connected' it IS NOT connected!!!
This problem shows its self more when the 'Wireless lan Manager-->Settings Tab-->Auto Turn off WLAN if not connected' option is ticked but it will also do it without this.
Seems to be partially caused by poor wifi signal and having previously run an app that hammered the network.
Sack of [email protected]!
Nigel
u seem to be having a mare!
I've no probs with WiFi at all, none of the issues U raise have occurred, WiFi works fine all over my house (I'm tapping this in upstairs & my router is downstairs) & I've got the settings set for best battery life rather than strongest signal. In the hotels I've stayed in recently I've also had faultless WiFi!
A couple of the users @ work have had trouble wiv GPRS overriding WiFi but I put this down to TNBTK!!
I've also seen the lost modem settings problem(also cured by soft reset).
Bluetooth performance has been a touch hit & miss but fiddling in the advanced settings seem to help!!
I've not tried VPN as I'm actively moving us away from this @ work towas web based services. Just a thought though, isn't "connecting to the internet" what you'd expect to see? surely you are using an internet gateway to VPN onto your network?
One other issue I've had is a logon problem with MS sharepoint, I'm hoping to cure that next week by playing about with authentication on the server.
I'v got a route in to some technical contacts at O2 so I'll ask bout the bug reporting for U tomorrow.
Hi
Aye, fun and games at the moment, just like my hardware to do what it says on the box!
Have you tried Skype? I have a feeling that you too will suffer the wifi lock-up problems if you give skype a go at the extreme of your wifi reception. I dont think its skype's fault though, but rather just the XDA not liking what skype gets up to! I am not gonna complain if it drops the wifi connection, its the lock-up that requires the reboot that winds me up.
Most of the time, my wifi is OK as well. Many of the problems I have had are related to use of skype, and having setup the auto-off wifi setting (which is now off again).
You have an XDA IIs? Perhaps mine has old firmware? I certainly dont believe that this is hardware related. I intend to come up with some repeaters for the problems I have, at the moment, they just occur 'when they feel like it'.
>A couple of the users @ work have had trouble wiv GPRS overriding WiFi >but I put this down to TNBTK!!
I have had this with bluetooth, but not with wifi. I think this connection occurs while on bluetooth when using ports that are not passed by default by ICS on the windows host box.
>I've also seen the lost modem settings problem(also cured by soft >reset).
This one really winds me up cause there is no way such a bug should have got past QA.
>Bluetooth performance has been a touch hit & miss but fiddling in the >advanced settings seem to help!!
Apart from the stupid messages about kernel space when trying to start BT, and the daft popup box saying that the BT stack license has expired, the BT on the XDA IIs is one of the more stable implementations that I have seen. You would think that since BT is now around 5 years old, it would be 100% stable these days.
>I've not tried VPN as I'm actively moving us away from this @ work >towas web based services. Just a thought though, isn't "connecting to >the internet" what you'd expect to see? surely you are using an internet >gateway to VPN onto your network?
It seems that there are two main connection methods in PPC, work, and Internet. The Proxy and VPN settings are not available when connected using a profile that is associated with 'internet' they are only available when connected through a 'work' profile. Again, the documentation is very lacking in the manual. O2's idea of a 'work' connection is WAP to O2 active!! A 'work' connection can be made to allow internet connections by checking the checkbox under proxy servers.
The various guides that I have found all suggest using the same profile for 'work' and 'internet', and setting the checkbox under proxies to allow internet access.
The layout of the whole connections applet in PPC is just a mess - completely unintuative!
Anyway, whatever the correct method, I've tried the lot and cant get the VPN to connect!!
>I'v got a route in to some technical contacts at O2 so I'll ask bout the >bug reporting for U tomorrow.
Cheers!
Nigel
Just got a reply from O2 About Above Bugs!
Hi
Ammused the hell out of me since its obviously a standard reply! There are not hardware problems, they are software problems so exchanging the hardware when the software remains the same aint gonna help!!
Nutters....!
I like the unit, I dont want to return it, I just want then to be aware of, and then fix the bugs and release new firmware promptly. O2's idea, is that if user sends in a bug report that refers to the *software* the unit runs, offer said user a new unit with same software - must cost them a bl00dy fortune!!
See O2's reply below:
Dear Nigel,
Thank you for contacting O2 Customer Service.
Please accept my sincere apologies for any inconvenience that may have
been caused by this matter and thank you for your patience.
I am sorry to know your handset has become faulty within 14 days of
purchase. However, we if you wish to get a new phone, please return your
faulty phone in it`s original packaging using the returns label
provided. If you do not have the original packaging please reply to this email
and I will arrange for a jiffy bag to be sent out to you. Returning
your order is free as the postage is prepaid, however can I ask you
obtain proof of postage as this will assist us greatly in the unlikely event
that your order does not reach our warehouse.
Any money you have paid for your order will be refunded once we have
received your order, however this process may take upto 21 working days.
After this you can order a new phone. There are two ways to order a
product from O2 Online:
You can order directly from our website by clicking on the link below:
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Alternatively, you can contact our sales team on 0870 225 7879. Who are
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Isn't it time to see what you can do with O2.
However, you can also visit your nearest O2 store to get your phone
repaired.
On visiting your local O2 store please take with you proof of purchase.
You should have received this when you originally placed your online
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dont seems to have the problems you have stated additional i have very good signals over the macdonalds.... (a free wifi service for now) in Singapore and tried with hotels wifi do not seem to have any problems... even installed WiFiForum a Wifi sniffer compitable with IIs and seriously speaking... after installing the WiFiForum i seem to have better phone signals... the best sniffer ever.... For VPN never tried... note: i have pocket skype and it works flawless.... dont get the "locked to network" problem
problems?
sounds like a bad unit. I'm new at this and am really wanting the blue angel early next year but reading a lot of bad press. I still have my sharp gx 1 and am looking for a good upgrade, the blue angel seems to have just the features I want...but so many bugs I'm seeing. from yellow tinged screens to connection and software problems. Thing is...is it a new product issue, or a design issue in general, and does anyone know when these bugs will be fixed? I really don't want to jump and buy one on contract and then have problems...don't know what to do. suggestions?
wifi signal
If you will take down the wifi speed of the access point from mixed a + b to just a, it will improve the signal for the XDA and the coverge will be stronger.
Very very few AP's have A and B. A works on 5.4GHz. B and G is the usual combination since they are both on 2.4GHz. I get no increases in performance by switching my AP to B only, and besides, doing such a thing means that access via my laptop gets well slow!
Modern devices should be able to work with multimode AP's with zero issues. Unfortunately, it seems that not one manufacturer of WiFi gear can read, they all interpret the standards as they see fit (I believe on purpose) thus locking you into their AP and their client side cards if you want a reliable network. WiFi has been around for eons, it should work by now, its hardly rocket science.
And as for the abortion that is bluetooth....!
Nigel
Nigel,
Don't know if this is going to be useful or not - but I've managed to get VPN working on the IIs after reflashing with the newer i-mate ROM.
O2 seem to do some wacky setup that defines your 'work' connection as a connection to their O2 Active WAP service - this seems to screw up VPN connections somehow.
Anyway, it's pretty easy to setup once you start with a clean-ish ROM - but if you have problems/questions let me know.
Also, with regards to wifi - does you unit get a better signal when docked/connected to the mains? I'm not quite sure that the power-saving options are being implemented properly on the IIs's...
Chris.
Okay got bored reading your essay but that bit about the network cards dissapearing when u added a new connection is true! I could only get it to show once I hard reseted and also it used to turn on for a short while when I turned wifi on.... on the Wi fi strength meter I believe its a graphical fault rather than a strength problem also the strength will be affected by other thins i.e. more than one person using the wifi point. I have sent my XDA IIs back to my company in detest about the dissapearing network cards! and I got told in anouther post bluetooth is shot! and an update while be made (Cause i can't connect or see virtually any blutooth devices in range when my mates phone detects 20+) Oh and anouther thing about Wi Fi Strength... Your phone is small and theres less power so naturally u will not be able to pick up as strong as a laptop will in regards to the signal thats why they say blutooth only extends upto 10 meters on mobiles but upto 100 meters on a PC thats deliberate due to power consumption and stuff
Check out this wifi scanner it finds hotspots really quick and shows the signal strength and stuff I use it but be sure to EXit from it before using wi-fi as for sum reason it stops u using wifi untill u exit.. its still a quality tool tho and its freeware! I picked up sumones wifi router in there home (it was 3 floors up) from nearly 150 houses away!!!! Naturally i couldnt connect tho
Click here to download it I found 16 Wifi Points in my local ASDA! and 20 from work to home (1 mile)
XDA VPN woes
Chriscole
I'm a newbie and piloting the xda IIs for the bosses so forgive my naivety. I have had no joy with the VPN setup to connect to the email servers because like you, the wap gprs keeps getting in the way. i am at a loss how to get the VPN setup tp connect using the mobile gprs instaed. Anychance you could post the steps you applied to get this feature to work for others benefit? Also wher can i get i-mate Rom.
Answer gratefully anticipated.
olori :?
I'm a newbie here and after playing one of the games on my xda IIs it freezes and i have to do a soft reset. I've only had it 4 days not sure i want to try anything else on it
VPN and GPRS
Just a thought. I've tried several times over the last couple of years on several platforms to get a VPN connection over GPRS on O2 and I've always failed. Could it be that O2 block the socket on mobile.o2.co.uk? What I'm trying to point out is that this is not an XDA specific problem. I've tried using a laptop, a Clie PEG UX 50, and iPaq 5450 and an old palm VX over time and I've always failed.
I would definately recommend updating to the latest O2 ROM ...... BUT ...... make sure you use corporate mode (code 0506) so that the rubbish O2 software doesn't get installed.
Still testing but it seems far more stable.
bugs
Is there any way to take the o2 stuff off after the new ROM has been installed?
If you don't mind reinstalling any additional software/ringtones etc then you could just do a hard reset to get onto corporate.
Otherwise a search on this forum should reveal how to edit the registry so that the O2 rubbish doesn't load on startup.
Hello there,
I have an exchange server configuration on my Trinity, and i have a strange problem. The device keeps automatically connecting using 3g/gprs, which, besides eating a lot of bandwith drains my battery fast!
Is there a way to prevent this? i have set on activesync the peek and off peak time to conect manualy but it keeps doing it.....is there a way to solve this? like making the device to auto-disconnect after like minute of inactivity? any ideas?!?
Im using the latest indigo_lite rom but i used to have the same problema with other roms.... i didnt on any wm5 rom beucase i got this account a few days ago.
All the best,
OliveiraJMR
Joao Oliveira said:
Hello there,
I have an exchange server configuration on my Trinity, and i have a strange problem. The device keeps automatically connecting using 3g/gprs, which, besides eating a lot of bandwith drains my battery fast!
Is there a way to prevent this? i have set on activesync the peek and off peak time to conect manualy but it keeps doing it.....is there a way to solve this? like making the device to auto-disconnect after like minute of inactivity? any ideas?!?
Im using the latest indigo_lite rom but i used to have the same problema with other roms.... i didnt on any wm5 rom beucase i got this account a few days ago.
All the best,
OliveiraJMR
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"Use above settings when roaming" should be OFF, if you want to disable automatic connecting be GPRS
I've have set is to ON because I do want to check it once every hour at peak times.
Battery is on 80% after a day, that's less battery drain then b4 or with AX3L's ROM, etc.
Hello,
Thanks for you anwser,
I have set all this and still connects from time to time....and it doesnt auto disconnect the gprs/3g connections...this is what is causing the battery drain...
thanks,
OliveiraJMR
Turn off your infrared port. That alone makes a lot of difference.
Hi,
isn't the Roaming option more about data connection when connected to a provider other than yours? A least, this is the way my Trinity behaves. I have this option off and this avoids data connection when I'm out of the country.
As far as I'm concerned, when choosing "manually" for sync schedule, I do not get automatic connection. Maybe some other application doing this (say wheather application or newsreader, browser, etc...)?
This said, I'm usually set up for a sync "as items arrive" and so have a permanent data connection running. Even with this connection I'm down to 26-34mA of energy consumption when Trinity is IDLE and it doesn't take to much bandwith either as it only maintains an https tunnel open without however exchanging data, except when there's something to sync (mail, appointment, contact, etc...).
Bye.
another thing : What's the version of your Radio ROM ? If it's an old version, you might want to consider to upgrade to a 1.46.xx.11 version. Made a big difference for myself.
Disable Push e-mail.
If you want to prevent your device from automaticly dialing up in order to check your email, then you should disable direct-push in your Communication manager.
(of course you loose the benefits of direct push while its turned off)
PS.: There is also a button for disconnecting from data network, this will only work after you turned off direct push.
Hope that was what you were asking for.
Have a nice weekend.
I Found the problem...
I was the weather app that was connecting randomly
Still if i left the connection on it drains my battery fast ?!?! I think i will try another rom or someting
Thanks again,
OliveirAJMR
Joao Oliveira said:
I Found the problem...
I was the weather app that was connecting randomly
Still if i left the connection on it drains my battery fast ?!?! I think i will try another rom or someting
Thanks again,
OliveirAJMR
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What's your RADIO ROM version ?
What's your powerdrain (you can get it with BatteryStatus) ?
Joao Oliveira said:
I Found the problem...
I was the weather app that was connecting randomly
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Things are never as they seem...
the Data connection is turning on on a regular basis and I can't find any scheduled tasks set up to access the Internet, but some rogue program is? any ideas any one and/or any way I get find out what is causing this.
I have the same problem.. And I'm a little bit tired!
I wrote on this thread with no answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529622
I have a flat data plane but I don't like that PDA face things on his own initiative!!
me neither, I'm in charge - not my new toy! Lets hope someone helps us out this time round.
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
itm said:
I had the same problem. In my case the 2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well, I don't use funambol.. And anyway: there are no program in task manamager! So: something is going wrong with manila..
I had the same 'problem', but my brother suggested to turn it off and on again. It did work as far as I could see.
I think it may be google maps causing this, but I'm not sure (and don't really care, since this 'solution' worked).
Any number of added apps can be doing this (Worldmate live is a bad one for example) or any apps still running and not shut down.
Obvious things to check first are:
Do you have automatic email check set?
Have you disabled auto-update in weather and stock quotes?
This drives me crazy too, afaik I have turned off everything yet it keeps turning on... A fix would be highly appreciated!
its the activesync...
turn it off, i mean, delete the settings and you'll be fine. activesync triggers automatic data sync, hence turning on the data connection
I use ActiveSync and don't have this problem. If it was ActiveSync, why would it cause the problem for some and not others ?
itm said:
2 apps connecting to the net were Google Maps and Funambol.
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Well.. I tested all day.. And I can say that I solved the problem!!!
I think that last time I closed gmaps.. I answered in a bad way to the question about updating Glatitude..
So: Gmaps seemed close but it was updating my position on the net!!!
When i opened gmaps i could see my avatar in the map.. So i understand that it was still online..
So.. I think I've solved!
Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
Thank you for your advices.
Glad you worked it out.
I put this in the developers forum a while back. Maybe someone smarter than me will work out a solution to this sort of problem:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530634
As with the poster here. You will have an application that you have inadvertently set to autoupdate. The only thorough solution is to go through every program on your phone and check each setting meticulously. Alternatively. Back up your personal data and hard reset. Then reinstall your apps one by one, testing for an hour after each one. Eventually, you will find the offending app and can work on finding the setting in it to stop it connecting to the net.
Hi all,
the thing is there are dozen possibilities: activesync, alle gps-stuff, all auto-updates. So instead off looking up all these settings, you could also use the nodata.cab - works fine (phone need to be unlocked!)
greetz to all
Kjoere
thanks for all the posts, haven't checked for a while. I have checked everything and noting is set to auto update so very strange and annoying. Will try the nodata.cab - if I can find it?
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Anyway we need a "netstat" on pocket pc...
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Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
download Modaco Nodata
frogfoot said:
Look at "TaskManager 3.1" that has a Netstat tab
Tom
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Thank you! That is very interesting.
It also can be the build-in Facebook app in Contacts in manila. It has feature to automaticly update in 2 hours. At least, I had mine turned on as default.
The only reliable and "ultimate" solution is really Modaco NoData as mentioned above.
On the other hand not taking third party apps in count, basic traffic of HTC device is nothing to be scared of. Updates for weather, stocks and A-GPS are just few bytes in size... Obviously, GMaps, mail autocheck, Messenger etc. are different story, but none of these are started on their own... BTW, ActiveSync has nothing to do with Internet with one exception - Exchange mail sync, if you have any.
What you have to understand, is behaviour of the active data indicator (small G, E or H next to signal strength). If it's there does not mean, that any data are transferred at the moment. It just indicates opened data slot with current brodcasting tower in the cell. It could stay opened for hours after trasfer even just of few bytes. It closes usually only for two reasons - your phone switches to another cell (and has no reason to open data slot again) or the tower is busy and closes inactive slots to gain more capacity.
Except few rare cases in some coutries you're charged only for data transferred, not for time of the connection and therefore it doesn't matter. In Europe from 1st of July (some new EU limit) one Mb shouldn't cost more than 50 cents and with these basic updates you will NEVER reach it in one month...
Obviously, roaming is another story, but in settings of the standard services you can limit updates just for your country.
Posted this @ PPC ... wanted to see if someone over here could shed some light on this for me... I have searched and the only things that I come up with are to disable the connection (manually, nodata... etc), and "there has to be something keeping it active"
It seems like many of us are having issues with the data connection not terminating after x amount of seconds. (myself included) What I am seeing with my own phone is that it will connect, download data, then go to idle (yet still active) It never seems to enter the inactive state, which is where the disconnect feature comes into play. I have searched the registry, and the only disconnect references that I can find all point to it being in the inactive state.
Does anybody know where the registry entries would be that directs the data connection to go from active/idle to inactive? I can confirm that my phone is connected by the solid white arrows next to the 3G icon, but when you bring up SPB Wireless, it shows no current activity.
Hopefully this provides enough clarification so that someone with more RegEdit experience can chime in...
Thanks
Do you by any chance have Microsoft Direct Push enabled? That will try to maintain your data connection.
(I've seen active sync go pretty wierd things. Nothing a good "End task" wont fix..)
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Do you by any chance have Microsoft Direct Push enabled? That will try to maintain your data connection.
(I've seen active sync go pretty wierd things. Nothing a good "End task" wont fix..)
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Well... here's the thing.... I have disabled direct push for the internet... but I am not sure where the Microsoft direct push is. I have noticed on occasion that the direct push will be active (but greyed) momentarily when i close the data connection.... maybe that has something to do with it....
So now where is the direct push disable?
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Well... here's the thing.... I have disabled direct push for the internet... but I am not sure where the Microsoft direct push is. I have noticed on occasion that the direct push will be active (but greyed) momentarily when i close the data connection.... maybe that has something to do with it....
So now where is the direct push disable?
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Are you using Activesync? Look under schedules there.. If you say "As items arrive", it will try to maintain the connection.
Nope, direct push will try to use the data connection first - so when u turn off the data connection, it will turn off, but you can turn it back on over wireless.
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Are you using Activesync? Look under schedules there.. If you say "As items arrive", it will try to maintain the connection.
Nope, direct push will try to use the data connection first - so when u turn off the data connection, it will turn off, but you can turn it back on over wireless.
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No active sync.... iv even deleted poutlook from the startup, as I only have pop/imap accounts set up for manual download....
Like i said tho... i find it odd that it will open the connection, stay active (but idle), and never go into the inactive state....
The behaviour is by design on Windows Mobile. Imagine having to reconnect again and again and again on your PC's broadband connection after a period of inactivity.
You can also disconnect right there and then by pressing the END CALL key for 3 seconds.
What is odd, is when I first got the phone it did not do this behavior... but with that said... and the fact that there is no noticeable change in battery life, I guess it becomes sort of moot....
I live in Bolivia, my cellular provider is Tigo.
I own and HTC Touch pro2 (AT&T HTC Tilt2) and I had this problem: Involuntary internet connections happen in my phone, my cellular provider has billed me 16 MB for internet navigation in a single day. Their explanation is that probably phone has connected in background using an application. I know the touch flo interface connects to download e-mail headers and weather reports, but I find difficult that this application can use 16MB What can be happening?
As I said all the 16MB were downloaded in a single day and the last 3MB in 5 minutes after downloading internet connection.
Besides the default applications I have just installed pocket e-sword, a bible reader that does not connect to Internet
Is there an application that downloads this quantity of information?
If so, how can I disable it?
Is there any way to see which is the server where my cell connected and what it was doing?
Is there any way to set up my phone with a max download data amount?
The solution that the cell provider gave me momentanially is to disable my internet conection, but that is not exactly what I want.
Thanks on advance.
Igor
Well if you are using Sense, it downloads weather if you dont have it set not to. You might also want to disable the "Get my location at anytime" feature, because it may use AGPS. But I really dont know what else would cause this other than the fact that it is Windows, and it loves its TCP/IP. but the best thing to do would be to use MoDaco - No data to disable the data connections, then when you want to use them just turn them back on.
Thank you
What's MODACO???
How do I disable "Get my location at anytime" ???
Modaco is another website with a forum.
Not sure if this is the latest version, but a quick google of this site turned up the Modaco No Data cab attached to this thread.
btw, you could use something like the SPB GPRS monitor to keep an eye on when internet connections are being made, and how much data is being down/uploaded. If you check task manager when you see a connection being made, perhaps we can trace where the data is being requested. I believe there is a demo version available of this program. I've not yet got a TP2, but can at least confirm that this monitor works fine on a TyTn II. You'll need to tell it which connection to monitor. Battery Status plugin for the today screen should apparently also do the trick.
If you ever get really desperate, you could always use WiFi at home to test without involving spending more, and use your PC to sniff the packets, check for what IP addresses and types of data are being requested. There maybe an app to do this directly on your phone, but I've not looked.