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Okie, heres the thing, my poor little old Orbit is about to pack it in, im getting faulty pixcels, the scroll wheel only goes down, the jog wheel only turns left and the USB socket feels like its about to fall off, but still the little beast soldiers on so ive been thinking of a new use for it....
Firstly as an Emergancy cell phone, but not every day stuff, texting GRPS EDGE etc, but more importantly as a GPS tracker, mostly for me walking about the hills, using the Orbit to track my movments in my bag.
So im hoping you guys can help me find the ROM with the least bagage, IE virtually nothing installed, with a very low footprint on RAM usage and a cracking good Radio ROM to match, not at all bothered by looks, since i wont be looking at it, but i want every last available ounce of power to go to GPS tracking, the Phone will be off at this stage and only switched on backlight an everything else wont matter neither will camera, bluetooth wifi etc
any ideas at all or directions to look at?
yue extraclean - see sig.
I'm having good experiences with Touch 3.01 vanilla by meschle. Sure it's wm6.0 but its very fast and serves me well and getting good battery times, today I've used it to surf the web for a few hours over wifi, used GPS for some time and it was only at 80% tonight.
You could try and extract it and take everything out then rebuild the ROM without wifi and bluetooth stuff, but I dont think it matters if you switch those functions off. You can search/google for Artemis_Touch_3.01_vanilla to find it.
In addition to that you can get a cheap (6.99+2.99 pounds) extended battery, that packs a whopping 2400 mAh: You can find that here.
Happy hiking
Hey People, the more I use this excellent phone the more I wonder can it really replace all of my gadgets on a day to day basis?
I wrote a piece on my blog about this in detail, but what do you think?
Gadgets I use the most on a day to day basis are:
Laptop - Internet and E-mail
Camera
Sat Nav
Phone
PMP - Music and Video's
My verdict was 99% a yes, and close to 100%.
Any thoughts!
It can do VOIP/SIP over HSDPA extremely well with a little help from SipDroid which I just set-up. Yay, for the Desire. ^_^ And for cheap calls!!
As for the laptop replacement it's quite adequate for my morning commute to work but when I need to do something fiddly like setup my PBX I prefer to tether my laptop.
As for replacing everything else, yeah pretty much, although whether it can replace one's girlfriend/boyfriend/significant other is a matter for debate.
LOL since when has ones, Girlfriend/Boyfriend etc, been a gadget? (why do I feel like that will spawn innuendo?)
I bought because if this!
Finally AIO device
Internet and E-mail
Camera(before used camera)
Sat Nav
Phone
Music and Video's(before used MP4)
It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.
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It could, if the battery technology was at a point where the phone could last a decent amount of time when playing videos, music, making calls and surfing. If you do everything on your phone it zaps the battery. That's why I'm keeping my cowon s9 for video/music use.
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That's a valid point. I spend a lot of time on the road in my car, so a car charger helps with that!
yes i think that HTC DESIRE is the AIO device anyone needs. but the concern and main problem is here too....if i use all the features all day i only get up to the evening max...then charger is on
So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?
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So would you compromise the look to interoperate a bigger battery? That's the question here?
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I think I don't need extra battery, it can last for one day if I use all it's features
I couldn't compromise on the shape, I'm hoping that a 2000mah + extended battery that is the same size will be released. I've actually been using my laptop to charge my desire on the go, lol.
i must say that its replaced a my ipod touch and n97 (email client on n97 was poor, video playback wasn't great and music player could have been better and sat nav was far too buggy) but i have to say i've been really taken with it, picks up emails faster than my outlook does for gmail, screen is fantastic, battery life is roughly the same as my itouch after a day's usage and since google maps navigation has come along its become even better! hopefully a bigger battery will be released soon as mentioned above
I have been a big PC user for most of my life and found I spent many hours on it each day catching up with whatever is happening online, etc.
Since getting this phone, I've actually found I spend half the time on the computer as I used to. I can happily be elsewhere and be able to catch up on forums through my phone with no discomfort
Technology is meant to make life easier and more efficient. The desire has certainly done that for me.
Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?
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Battery , for me, is the biggest issue.
If we can get a better battery, it would be superb.
I use the phone a lot. (I haven't made a single call with it yet either as my number has still to transfer over).
But, I don't manage to last the whole day without needing a charge early evening.
I think once the novelty of the phone has worn off it will be better, but even then, it's not as if I've been using it so heavily.
Small amount of Satnav to test it out.
Fair amount of internet during the day (switching between mobile data and wireless depending on proximity of wifi network).
Screen more often than not turned almost all the way down, unless light doesn't permit.
I never get through a full day without a charge...
Is there something I'm doing wrong?
Are there any apps which export the phone's current settings, so that the set-up can be analysed by others (like the nice people on here) in order to work out a more power efficient set up?
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You will see looking around these forums there is a lot of discussion an battery life! Personally I find that there are certain Apps that seem to drain my battery very quickly. One culprit for some reason seemed to be the 'Sky News' app? I dont have a list of apps that cause it but like I said read a few of the battery threads and it will give you some idea. The Sat Nav is a huge drain on the battery, and even when connected to my current car charger it drains quicker than it charges. I know why, its because my car charger is only kicking out .5a unlike the required 1a that the device needs (needless to say a better car charger is on its way).
But normally I can get a day out of it no problem. And If I use the Sat Nav its gonna be plugged in to a charger anyway...
I am happier with my Desire than than any other gadget I'be owned. The only problem is memory for apps. I'v havent got that many but I'm still short on space. what's the point in having a superphone if you can't show it off? I have 8 gig memory card but can't use any that space for apps! Madness!
Apps are limited un production by this and won't be a real co.tender to the iPhone appstore until it's solved.
If anyone know how to get apps on to SD on the desire please let me know. Would make this thing pretty perfect.
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Desire can replace a lot of gadgets but it's definitely not a replacement for a laptop or a camera.
IMHO, no. I've used it for a few weeks now, and at one point considered replacing my current phone with it but...
1. Appalling battery life, maybe a working day of usage, and if I'm having to put it on charge in the evening, I'm not using it.
2. Lack of stability - applications crash out at random, shutdowns frequently hang. If I have to take the battery out to reset it, a real pain if I'm out walking, it's not ready for frontline use. While I've been typing this, the browser has completely locked up.
3. Flash memory shortage; when it's rooted, or the OS supports install-to-card, this won't be a problem, but I'm not prepared to spend a lot of time managing memory. If I need to spend a lot of time maintaining the device, I might as well use WM.
4. Odd Calendar syncing - I've mentioned it elsewhere, but I want control of how my calendars are synced to the device; Android doesn't give me that. If I want to look back a few months and check the last time I took a leave day, it may not have synced. Shabby.
5. GPS - I imagine Copilot works well on this, but a few hours testing Google Maps Navigation at the weekend really brought out serious flaws, particularly when passing through areas with no cellular data coverage. A SatNav system has to sit in the dashboard mount and just work reliably for the whole trip or it's worthless, GMN didn't.
It's a nice device to play with, and there are some good, useful applications, but I need a reliable phone, and this isn't it. Hopefully the Evo will be.
Got a stock Sprint CDMA Touch Pro 2 (WM 6.1) from a European seller on EBay about a week ago. Put my Vodafone SIM card in it and away we go... worked fine. I unlocked it with Olipro's web site and replaced the radio with his 2.05.00WV so I can use it with GSM carriers in the USA when I go there. So far so good, and I began piling on a lot of software -- upgrades of things I had been running on my hx4705 iPAQ. SPB Pocket Plus, Pocket Plus Diary, SKTools, Flexmail, and so on and so forth. I sync it with Thunderbird using Birdiesync (which I can recommend).
At some point in this process it began to get very slow and flaky, with lots of crashes. I began to get worried and removed Pocket Plus Diary -- I have over 1600 contacts. That sped it up some, but I noticed my battery was draining at a terrible rate. I had installed Advanced Config and set it for maximum performance, but most of those settings have to do with cache sizes and don't actually burn CPU time. I also set all the power management settings to Enabled. But it was still dropping like a rock within a couple of hours.
Eventually I began to despair -- slow, buggy, no battery life... I thought I had bought a lemon. I was on the point of flashing somebody else's ROM (without knowing who in the hell's I should choose -- everybody brags about their speed but few brag about their battery life). I decided to hard-reset the thing and see what happened. I charged it back up to about 67%, left everything else alone and put it in Suspend Mode by my bed. (No Wi-Fi or Bluetooth, of course, I'm not an idiot.) I live in an area with good coverage.
In the morning it was dead as a doornail and I was sure that I had bought a pup. I can't deal with a phone that I can't put by my bedside for 8 hours -- I travel constantly and don't always have access to power. But since all the software was off it again, I starting putting things back, very slowly and carefully.
Long story short, I now seem to have very good battery life indeed WITHOUT flashing a new ROM. I'm not entirely sure why, but these are the steps I've taken, just in case it helps somebody else:
Touch FLO 3D off. It's a kludge anyway. I'm stylus guy.
Flashed yet another radio, 2.32.00WU
Phone network set to GSM only, not Global. (Settings > Phone > Network)
Backlight auto adjust is OFF, backlight turns off after 2 minutes on battery.
Device turns off after 3 minutes on battery.
Turned off Error Reporting. (Settings > System > Error Reporting)
Turned on all the Power Mangement features in AdvancedConfig.
Made a lot of registry tweaks recommended by Ninja Duck over at PPCGeeks. HAICH TEE TEE PEE ://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=110813 I didn't use his cab, just did them by hand. Among other things it turns off OBEX -- although I only turn on Bluetooth as necessary anyway.
HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\Battery "PollInterval" set to 20000 instead of 5000.
In the Comm Manager, I keep data connections OFF until needed. No push mail, weather, etc. for me. When I want to read mail, I'll check for mail.
ALSO using RedFrogFish's Data Controller 1.0.1.8 just to be dead certain data connections are disabled.
Renamed OperaL.exe in Windows to OperaL-.exe. This prevents Opera 9 from starting on boot.
Messages > Options > my account > Send/Receive Schedule > Automatic Send/Receive set to Manually.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\SDCARD\ClientDrivers\Cl ass\SDMemory_Class "DisablePowerManagement" = dword : 00000000
Removed PKG.lnk, poutlook.lnk, and HTCStartUp.lnk from Windows\StartUp. I dunno what these do but I don't seem to need them.
Put SBP Pocket Plus back on but NOT Pocket Diary.
One other thing -- on the strength of good experiences with PocketInformant on my old iPAQ, I originally installed the latest edition (9) on the Rhodium, but after the hard-reset I didn't reinstall it. It's slower than M$'s own Contact and Calendar managers, and while those aren't as good, they're good enough -- much better than they were under WM2003SE. I don't entirely trust PI. It's big and I suspect it of grabbing things that don't belong to it.
Bottom line: I am a MUCH happier camper. I don't know which of these was the most effective, but the phone is now both fast and easy on the battery. The battery savings might all be coming from the GSM Only setting and the new radio, for all I know.
Sorry this is so long-winded. I just wanted to say... if you're suffering... don't give up! I got much better battery life WITHOUT having to choose and flash somebody else's ROM. (I don't mind flashing ROMs but I'm damned if I can figure out how to choose one. Somebody needs to do a big review with a side-by-side table of features.)
Quick further update. I left it last night at 91% battery, and everything turned off that CAN be turned off except the radio. This morning, after close on 9 hours sitting there, it's at 86%. I'm pretty stoked!
A well done for perseverance!
nice hopefully these tips bump up my battery life
thanks for the tipps, i'm going to check those reg-tweaks by ninja duck you mentioned.
i would be interested in the mean duration you can use the phone without charging, i'm getting about 3-4 days of medium usage from one charge.
i also rather prefer a good battery life over some eye candy, so no htc tf3d for me to (noticed, that this is the main power consumer). in fact, i like the old school today plugins better, as i can see all upcoming appointments with today agenda, have some nice quick start buttons with easy today launcher (including a link to zlaunchy, where i can start all programs via t9 typing), i see the connection state and messages status with phone wheaver and the bandwidth usage with spb wireless monitor.
one thing i would recommend you is phone wheaver, where you can set profiles, that are activated at a specific time.i use a day and a night profile - in the second one, PW will disable all connections, as i wont need them at night (including the cell connection - i dont know the proper name, i mean this standard phone connection to the carrier) and so the battery life is better even more. PW also has the possibiliy to place a toggle data connection button in the today plugin, so you can switch connections fast. (hope, this was not too much of a commercial, i just like the software.)
EWAdams said:
Removed PKG.lnk, poutlook.lnk, and HTCStartUp.lnk from Windows\StartUp. I dunno what these do but I don't seem to need them.
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If you sync to Outlook on the PC and set appointments and reminders on your calendar, having this turned off on the phone means you will not get any notifications of these events. Been curious about the other two, though.
Thanks for the advice. Battery seems to be an issue regularly cropping up. Maybe someone can help withm y current 'not' postive experience.
I have the TP2 exactly 12 months, and its been pretty good. Occasional freezes but nothing a soft reset doesnt handle, and its not too much hassle and i accept it because im a heavy user.
Battery has been reasonable. Always got me through the day, and it went on the charge every night.
About 2 weeks ago i suddenly noticed a change. Tbh it probably was creeping up up but i never noticed. Anyway, suddenly all im getting is about 4 hours!!! Battery will be showing about half full, next thing its beeping then off!!! Before if you went to bed with it fully charged and left it off the charger it would still have charge in the morning- now its dead as a doornail despite NO activity (email off, wifi off,bluetooth off, no progs runnign etc).
So onto ebay. Got a replacement battery but guess what- exactly the same!! I really dont think the new batterys faulty. Another one on the way just in case, but i think its a phone thing.
Any ideas???
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Thanks for the advice. Battery seems to be an issue regularly cropping up. Maybe someone can help withm y current 'not' postive experience.
I have the TP2 exactly 12 months, and its been pretty good. Occasional freezes but nothing a soft reset doesnt handle, and its not too much hassle and i accept it because im a heavy user.
Battery has been reasonable. Always got me through the day, and it went on the charge every night.
About 2 weeks ago i suddenly noticed a change. Tbh it probably was creeping up up but i never noticed. Anyway, suddenly all im getting is about 4 hours!!! Battery will be showing about half full, next thing its beeping then off!!! Before if you went to bed with it fully charged and left it off the charger it would still have charge in the morning- now its dead as a doornail despite NO activity (email off, wifi off,bluetooth off, no progs runnign etc).
So onto ebay. Got a replacement battery but guess what- exactly the same!! I really dont think the new batterys faulty. Another one on the way just in case, but i think its a phone thing.
Any ideas???
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I noticed that once the other day: battery was about 40% and the next morning the device had shut down. I have no idea what the reason was, but I guess I left googlemaps running with gps on or something... however, I didn't have this issue another time...
Well AT&T has activated LTE in the Orlando area and it sure is fast. I have noticed that when I browse or use LTE data my Nitro has been getting quite warm. Any one else in LTE areas having problems with overheating?
only time it gets hot for me is when it's using GPS, LTE, and charging at the same time.
dtla here and no lte........yet.........it's coming any day/week/month year now.
lu6200
my phone gets hot while playing games.Lte still not available in my country
u can get higher than 1mb per second on 4g without lte on, i only turn mine on if i'm watching high res youtube videos, which i rarely do over data, usually only on wifi.
by the way it's normal for the phone to run a little warmer with lte on, but it shouldn't be a massive increase unless you have your brightness really high and are also running video, this is actually caused by the combination of lte, and the screen (2 highest power consumption hardware units on the phone i believe) it causes warmth from both the radio, the and even more from the battery, which can get over 40C, if it gets hot enough youll see a warning on your screen on most stock roms and i think most custom roms too not 100% sure though, i left my phone in the car in the sun with the windows up once on mistake and when i pulled the battery out (there was a battery temperature warning on my screen) it was so hot it would have burned me if i didn't drop it immediately.
luckily i tested it against 3 other batteries and it didn't get any perm damage, it actually had the longest life out of the three, because the other two were brand new and not broken in, however if it stays at a high temperature for long, it can permanently damage the battery, or even cause it to basically not work/explode.
there are two people with this issue it could be a defect with newer nitros?
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Well AT&T has activated LTE in the Orlando area and it sure is fast. I have noticed that when I browse or use LTE data my Nitro has been getting quite warm. Any one else in LTE areas having problems with overheating?
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Hot issue is the common problem in LTE or smart phone.
Hey guys,
I currently own a Samsung Galaxy S9 and previously owned a Huawei Nexus 6p, both devices, while in the woods, behave very strangely. Since I don't own the 6p anymore, I'm only going to speak of the S9, which is brand new and in brand new condition. But this used to happen on my 6p as well!
A good 75% of the time, when I take my phone out of my pocket, it will be at the boot pattern lock screen. The screen will be on and the battery will have drained substantially. Somehow, the device is rebooting while in my pocket. This ONLY happens when I go camping in the woods here in Ontario. NEVER happens any other time. And it won't happen just once or twice. It'll happen a dozen times over the course of a day easily. My battery, while out in the woods, never lasts more than a day, even though I almost never use it.
Yes. I'm positive I'm not pocket rebooting. I'll move the phone into my cargo pocket, which has TONS of room. Same thing. I'm running stock Samsung, no root, nothing. The stock experience so far has been very smooth and stable. I've had no reboots, very little lags, etc. I step into the woods, BAM, starts acting a fool.
I have a Garmin watch connected via BT, but the watch is ALWAYS connected. NEVER had any issues with the Garmin device. Thought I'd mention this, since it's the only device I have connected to my S9.
Anyone else experiencing this? Or do I sound totally crazy here?? It bothers me because I don't want to go camping with a power bank. I'm often resorted to turning the device off completely and leaving it in my backpack, which isn't ideal.
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Hey guys,
I currently own a Samsung Galaxy S9 and previously owned a Huawei Nexus 6p, both devices, while in the woods, behave very strangely. Since I don't own the 6p anymore, I'm only going to speak of the S9, which is brand new and in brand new condition. But this used to happen on my 6p as well!
A good 75% of the time, when I take my phone out of my pocket, it will be at the boot pattern lock screen. The screen will be on and the battery will have drained substantially. Somehow, the device is rebooting while in my pocket. This ONLY happens when I go camping in the woods here in Ontario. NEVER happens any other time. And it won't happen just once or twice. It'll happen a dozen times over the course of a day easily. My battery, while out in the woods, never lasts more than a day, even though I almost never use it.
Yes. I'm positive I'm not pocket rebooting. I'll move the phone into my cargo pocket, which has TONS of room. Same thing. I'm running stock Samsung, no root, nothing. The stock experience so far has been very smooth and stable. I've had no reboots, very little lags, etc. I step into the woods, BAM, starts acting a fool.
I have a Garmin watch connected via BT, but the watch is ALWAYS connected. NEVER had any issues with the Garmin device. Thought I'd mention this, since it's the only device I have connected to my S9.
Anyone else experiencing this? Or do I sound totally crazy here?? It bothers me because I don't want to go camping with a power bank. I'm often resorted to turning the device off completely and leaving it in my backpack, which isn't ideal.
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Check if Settings > Display > Navigation Bar > Hard Press Home Button & Unlock With Home Button are disabled, otherwise it is very easy to turn the screen on when you pull the phone out of your pocket, was happening to me for a while until I realised what was happening
Battery drain could be coming from low carrier signal forcing the phone to search for a signal a lot more than usual
I'd stay out of those woods! ?
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Check if Settings > Display > Navigation Bar > Hard Press Home Button & Unlock With Home Button are disabled, otherwise it is very easy to turn the screen on when you pull the phone out of your pocket, was happening to me for a while until I realised what was happening
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Those settings were actually one of the first things I disabled on my S9. SUPER ANNOYING, but those aren't the causes for my strange behavior. I've experienced this same issue with all those disabled, as well as on a completely different device that doesn't even have those settings.
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Battery drain could be coming from low carrier signal forcing the phone to search for a signal a lot more than usual
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Really?? I did not realize this was a thing. Something to keep my eye out. Most places I go camping, even though deep in the woods, still has cellular reception, but usually not LTE, only 3G or no-G even some times. Are you able to enlighten me on when the S9 drains the most when it comes to it's carrier signal? I just want to know how to set my phone next time I go into the woods for best troubleshooting.
Thanks for the reply!
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I'd stay out of those woods!
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Last I checked, they are probe-free woods. My phone is probably the one getting the probe.
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Those settings were actually one of the first things I disabled on my S9. SUPER ANNOYING, but those aren't the causes for my strange behavior. I've experienced this same issue with all those disabled, as well as on a completely different device that doesn't even have those settings.
Really?? I did not realize this was a thing. Something to keep my eye out. Most places I go camping, even though deep in the woods, still has cellular reception, but usually not LTE, only 3G or no-G even some times. Are you able to enlighten me on when the S9 drains the most when it comes to it's carrier signal? I just want to know how to set my phone next time I go into the woods for best troubleshooting.
Thanks for the reply!
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I generally have 4G most places I am so I can't help there, but I would try setting the preferred connection type to whatever you seem to get in the woods the most, so if it drops to H+ or E or whatever you get when 3/4G isn't available, set it to 2G or whatever the lowest available is in connection settings, could be that searching for a 3/4G signal constantly is causing that drain so telling it not to even look for one could help, but also could be that this radio type is causing that drain itself, maybe 3/4G signals are a lot less power hungry regardless of whether or not the phone is set manually to them or not
You could test it in the house now, set it to 2G and do a battery drain test vs 3/4G you usually have, if there is no extra drain in the house, there should be no extra drain in the woods, but if there is then 2G and lesser obviously uses a lot more power
Tel864 said:
I'd stay out of those woods!
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This guy gets it. You have been warned, lol. If you have a logcat I'm sure someone would be able to identify the problem.
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This guy gets it. You have been warned, lol. If you have a logcat I'm sure someone would be able to identify the problem.
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Haha!
Logcat is a good idea. I think the next time I'm out there, I'll pull one and we'll see what's what.
Should be going back into the woods real soon. Blair Witch be damned.