I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or not, but I cannot find a ROM that has Sense 2.5 running nearly as smooth as 2.1, which is a real shame because I like the look and feel of 2.5 a lot. I've tried a large number of ROMs. I've done hard resets afterwards, and flashed back to the stock ROM beforehand, and after a few hours 2.5 will run slow coming from the home page, but scrolling and what not from there will be fine afterwards.
What has other people's experiences been with 2.5? I'd really like to get it to run as well as 2.1 does, but I understand it was made for a device that had a 1GHZ processor in it, too.
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I think a lot of us are in the same boat as you. Sense 2.5 is simply just not made for our devices.
theres alot of dependencies. and it doesnt agree with the keyboard. and it was made for the 1ghz proc. i wouldnt say its bad though. it seems most people wont opt into for the cfc compressed version though. cfc did wonders for 1.3 and 2.1.
Opt into? Are there ROMs that have a CRC compressed version, or is it just no one's done it?
Sorry, I don't know much about developing stuff like that.
I´m sure that great Chefs here will eventually have a smooth stable version
The fastest iteration of a 2.5 ROM I've played around with is Cell Pro Lite V1. It runs 2.5 and most everything really fast, but I can't get Swype to work on that ROM, and I love that input method. Always a compromise.
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Hello,
Having used lox devs dev Eclair AOSP ROM I've realised how lacking the Hero is in its standard form - general speed of use and just the way the system feels.
In short I love using 2.0 with none of the HTC bloatware, its a shame as I don't think the ROM devs think there is much call for this - Hopefully in this thread everyone who agrees will shout up.
Obviously the dev one has its issues - sync, random crashes on phone function, etc, but I'm happy to work with it if I know there is development coming.
It would be great for one of the devs to take the project on board, knowing there is community support for this. I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels this way.
Unfortunately I'm no way programmingly minded and struggle with linux at the best of times, never mind thinking about coding, but I'd donate/support/playtest any work in progress clean android *latest version* ROM for the Hero.
Sorry...subtract 1 No. I am not an android Dev..but have been drinking Leffe
anybody got anything to add to this?
i will request Lox_Dev to update this rom when he gets some free time as i know he is working hard to get Eclair 2.1 done. I and a friend of mine is using 2.0 AOSP for last 5 days and none of us is complaining with basic features. all look good.
just 2-3 things need to be fixed.
* cant set own wallpaper as album/gallery app isnt there.
* bluetooth pairs but cant send/receive files
* camera works upto 3 megapixel.
otherwise i dont find any major problem with AOSP 2.0. i dint face a single hang in 5 days and neither did my friend.
Well, first off all. The current 2.0 / 2.1 builds all run very laggy and crappy. It is as if the video drivers aren't using any acceleration at all or something.
In Lox's 2.0 clean build (which I've used for the past few days) every bit of animation except the lockscreen goes laggy. Scrolling through the menu, opening the menu, opening the notifications... it never goes as smooth as on the 1.5 based ROMS.
I'm in no way complaining, don't get me wrong. I'm very interested in using a stock android experience but so far nothing is working good yet. The 1.6 based tries don't support all the hardware, and the 2.0 / 2.1 based ROMs aren't up to speed.
This is more than understandable ofcourse. The 2.0 / 2.1 based ROMS are based on leaked alpha / beta work which just isn't ready yet, and 1.6 differs too much from the stock android ROM to get all the hardware working OK.
So my hope is that when HTC releases their 2.0 / 2.1 official ROM, we can use it to make a clean vanilla Android 2.x experience which runs as snappy as our current HTC 1.5 versions, and still with all the hardware working OK. Maybe even with a guide how to 'backup' or transfer the googlebits from the official 2.x ROM.
A clean 2.x ROM, but with the googlebits, and with the HTC music player + album + camera + browser... now that would be awesome.
Starting a thread like this isn't really much use right now, since we only have buggy laggy 2.x bits from a leaked ROM to get stuff working.
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A clean 2.x ROM, but with the googlebits, and with the HTC music player + album + camera + browser... now that would be awesome.
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Ha, ridiculous. Seriously I don't get people's issue with Sense UI, if you don't want it fine.. But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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omg how am I ever gonna live without a laggy browser, calendar, contact list or sms application?
It would be the best thing ever, IMO.
And nobody needs to be offended, those who want sense UI can just use that
Exactly! So stop flooding Hero (HTC) ROM threads with useless crap about wanting a ROM minus Rosie/Sense UI, E2K you've been the worst offender?!?!
You must be happy now that a almost fully functional AOSP ROM's in the wild!
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Exactly! So stop flooding Hero (HTC) ROM threads with useless crap about wanting a ROM minus Rosie/Sense UI, E2K you've been the worst offender?!?!
You must be happy now that a almost fully functional AOSP ROM's in the wild!
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Happy?? I am more happy than ever! (regarding the hero)
Also very thankful that the developers got their sh*t together and are pumping out roms like real pro's.
THe devs should be called "hero" not this 2007 pos A7200 cellphone
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Ha, ridiculous. Seriously I don't get people's issue with Sense UI, if you don't want it fine.. But deal with the fact that you're losing HTC apps as well.
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wtf is wrong with stating what would be a nice combo in my opinion? I even started by saying that for now there should be no hope and 'just requesting it to the devs' right now is bonkers. When a good HTC 2.x ROM comes along the devs have something to play with, until then this thread was useless... and still you gonna call that ridiculous? Your even saying that to a user who has tried a vanilla ROM for the whole of 30 hours before running back to my nandroid backup with MCR on it.
Go troll somewhere else please, or at least read the posts carefully and whole you're going to attack.
Hi All,
Sorry for creating a new thread but I've been constantly tweaking and upgrading my touch diamond and tbh I'm not happy. I have tried countless roms and I have yet to find a fluid one which does not frustrate me. Sense 2.5 is unusable, I don't understand how anyone can use it; you guys must have a lot of patient. I have gone for Gen Y 6.1 with Sense 2.1. I have heard that WM6.1 runs slightly faster and I use the recommended radio. Yes this rom is faster than most others I have tried but it's still not fast enough. It's a clean flash with mtty and I have changed the file system cache yada yada yada but it's still pretty laggy. I'm posting to ask peoples opinions on the fastest roms and I don't mean ones that are simply "usable". I am still unsure with the speed difference between TF3D compared to sense and I have yet to try Titanium, maybe titanium is the way froward? What are the fastest combinations (eg win6.1 with what etc..).
Any advice would be great,
Thanks in advance.
in my opinion these are the fast and stable combo you could try
WM 6.1 + sense 2.5 => GenY roms are great, programs mems are usually about 65% used but it's kinda not "smooth" enough when sliding the tabs :|
WM 6.5 + sense 2.1 => DonSalari roms , really fast but heavily tweak and some kind of stuffs i must install the invidual packages while other roms have them natively
WM 6.1 + sense 2.1 => best performance for daily use ! compared with TF3D 2.1 , sense 2.1 is more eyed-candy and get the better ram usage the TF3D 2.1 is always about 80% when you have used the music tab, picture tab. While in sense 2.1 it's about 65% used
so enough ? i'm on the way finding a best combo 6.5 + sense 2.1 with stock stuffs and best perfomance. and you may like a 6.1+ sense 2.1 combo ftw ) sorry for my english isn't good enough
i think the PP you can set to 10mb for best perfomance , 8mb by default is really turning me on when using sense 2.5
I've switched to 6.5 and titanium because I couldn't find a rom which had decent perfromance without bugs. It's a BSB rom and so far not had any issues with it. Sense 2.5 has about a second added every time you switch tabs. It looks pretty but it's just too slow.
Just switched to BSB Titanium 6.5 and it seems so much faster. I've only had a quick play but it seems very responsive. I just need to get used to the titanium UI, haven't got a clue where anything is, lol. Is there any way to get the task manager in the top menu like the other versions because I keep losing my apps =s
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Just switched to BSB Titanium 6.5 and it seems so much faster. I've only had a quick play but it seems very responsive. I just need to get used to the titanium UI, haven't got a clue where anything is, lol. Is there any way to get the task manager in the top menu like the other versions because I keep losing my apps =s
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You should find a shortcut to a program called CHome editor. You can use this to make new panels. It's not the most inuitive app but it's what we have. You can use it to create a panel with a shortcut to the built-in task manager. I'm not aware of how you'd use the old top corner style task manager but if you get this to work, you might like it even more.
I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.
gengxi said:
I find the HTC sense UI is beautiful,someone will do it?
Thank U.
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You can run it on 2.1, but there's no 2.2 ROM that we can port sense from...
I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.
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I know its personal preference, but I can't imagine why anyone would want to. The 2.1 version that ran Sense was dog slow and very buggy. IMO, even at it's best, Sense will slow down any system.
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Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds
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Bingo. I think acl is trying to get a ROM from the Desire ported with 2.2/senseui... but I'm sure it'll be slow as heck.
If Android was consistently smooth & quick, then maybe more attention would be given to this cause, but if on a basic level there are still issues... you can't expect something as advanced (and proprietary!) as SenseUI to work well or at all.
But you make a good point. If you want sense, run the rosie 2.1 builds
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in my opinion the best thing for our phone should be 1.6+sense (1.6 is blazin fast) or 2.2+sense,eclair is slower
Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.
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Anyone want to attempt to port "goapk froyo sense 2.2.1" from HTC HERO? I have somewhat successfully ported a HERO rom from CM FRF91 to HTC Fuze but I'm trying to work on 2.1 Espresso port to ext2 right now.
Might try goapk froyo again later.
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I would definitely help you if I knew how to port
Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)
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Or you could try to port from EVO's 2.2 (tried my friends yesterday, and it's definately Android 2.2 (verified in software info.)
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Evo hardware isn't even close to ours... As stated previously, the Hero would probably be the best bet.
I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
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VICTORY. I have successfully converted the sense build to ext2. and with only 3 operating systems involved in the process! 00:05
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I thought someone made mention of it actually working on their device in IRC
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He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...
I don't think it would matter. All the reading's i've done say Sense based xdandroid build's are a fair bit slower. I've personally used 1.6 android with sense, well before i started using 2.2, and i agree it was much more laggy (like a second's or more when selecting something, and also when flipping through different screen's, and sense tabs.
I wouldn't bother. Granted i LOVE sense on my touch pro, i would recommend to use the one's HTC makes (they might not SAY they did, but undeniably look identical) offered on the Market, and are pretty cheap actually. I was thinking about buying a couple, but saw some free ones that aren't THAT much difference in looks for free.
I would like to see Sense added to 2.2 if it's not hurting speed and lag though for SURE, but the 1.6 i tried for a week i stopped right away cause it was unbearable to use anymore.
The problem is that including HTC sense widgets would be illegal and infringing on htc's copyright on those widgets/design..
Well, it's no different then the available Android 1.6 w/ Sense that's been around for a while here. Not that i am agreeing on it being right or wrong of course. Course that's kind of why i was mentioning about the FREE alternatives, to avoid that debate.
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He's talking about the 2.1 build. It was still sqshfs, he's talking about converting the sqsh file to ext2...
I don't see any mention of 2.2...
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If it counts, I actually converted mine (converted the sqshfs to ext2; used an app jesusfreak mentioned when I first got on irc) but I'm not 100% sure it works
To be honest, I'm not looking for any specific aside from the launcher ( maybe ) or the theme. It ( not talking about the converted sqshfs ) was working or so I thought. I'll have to break out my 4GB microSD and extract what I had working to tell you for sure what I have working and what-not.
I have the link saved on my laptop and will be happy to share this when I get back on my computer, I'm at work currently.
EDIT
Staysafe is the app but development has been halted/abandoned (I beleive)
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I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys
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I mean a real ext2 partition, not just a .ext2 compressed file..
sorry if I confused you guys
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Ah, you want something like the neopeek builds
Yes, I am in the process of porting 2.2 Sense goapk from HTC Hero with sd card ext2 partition
I have not abandoned it.. just yet
OK so i was originally on a Deodexed Stock Rom with no mods or anything like that other than it was Deodexed.
My phone was blazing fast then, and still is IF i flash back to that rom. IM now running the latest Virtuous Sense Rom. Heres my issue. I use advanced task killer which displays the available memory after you kill the apps.
On the stock deodexed Rom after killing apps i had around 375M of available memory. Now that i'm on sense, i get about 81 on average, and after killing some services i can get up to 120 max, but thats it.
Is there any way i can get it back up in the 300 range? I want my phone to be fast (Who doesnt) but i REALLYY dont want to have to revert back to stock in order to do that.
I assume you have a Desire Z because if you have a G2 then you're comparing apples to oranges.
I know the .odex is sort of a preloaded portion of the app or something along those lines (it's been awhile). So my guess it that instead of part of the app being contained in the .odex file contained in /system it's loaded into the RAM instead on a deodexed ROM. That would be why you have less RAM.
I could just be talking out of my a$$ though since it's been a long time since I've cared to read about odex vs deodex. It was a pretty big argument back in the day over which was faster.
I actually have a g2 by tmobile. What do u mean im comparing apples to oranges though?
Sense sucks your phone's resources into a black hole.
It's pretty and has a number of attractive features over Vanilla Android (nice dialler, consistent copy/paste features, nice browser), and I used to love it. But like you, I got annoyed at the phone constantly reloading apps (and browser pages) when I went back to them because of low RAM. Eventually I grew to love Vanilla (well, CM-based) ROMs. Just wipe that Sense off and see an instant performance improvement!
Really i love sense for the dialer/contacts. if i could find a rom with a smart dialer like sense AND the option to text a number thru the dialer unlike vanilla android id go back in a flash. but i havent found that yet =/
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I actually have a g2 by tmobile. What do u mean im comparing apples to oranges though?
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Because the stock G2 is *almost* a vanilla ROM (aosp), not Sense. Look at the size of a Sense ROM download, then compare that to the size of a Cyanogen ROM. Still wonder why Sense ROMs have less available? They are a whole different item. It's like comparing a bike to a car.
Overclock it! I always OC sense tons. If you did already and still not happy with the speed then you will need to ditch sense.
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reasons why i love sense
the contact dialer
and the push to focus on video.
i NEED the push to focus on video haha.
if sense had these than i would never look at SENSE roms ever again. haha.
You can give MIUI a try?
I think it's "prettier" than cyanogen, but not as much of a resource-hog as sense.
They've ALMOST got all the kinks out. I'm a fan =)
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Really i love sense for the dialer/contacts. if i could find a rom with a smart dialer like sense AND the option to text a number thru the dialer unlike vanilla android id go back in a flash. but i havent found that yet =/
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TouchPal Dialer.
I use it with CYM7
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TouchPal Dialer.
I use it with CYM7
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yes but the most important thing i need is TOUCH TO FOCUS on VIDEO RECORDING. -_____-
and also the video on hd is limited to 10 minutes.
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i've lurking this forums for quite sometime now, i've tried a lot of roms sense and AOSP... and in the last few days i've been using probably the most stable rom (liberation 3) besides a stock rom, but i still cant get used to sense 1.0 i just dont feel confortable using it, yes its incredibly fast, no lag ever, best battery life, but the UI just feels akward. im in love with sense 3.5 but not even with the latest gingertiny its fast enough for me, lots of lagging and sporadic FCs.
So my question is, wich rom (sense rom) dou you think would work for me, i would be confortable with a sense 3.0 rom or even a sense 2.0, but i need full functionality (720p recording, or at least 800 with no lag, camera saving to emmc, emmc mounting, wifi/3g drops) and faster and lees lag possible.
or should i try to get used to sense 1.0 again?
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Hope this is the right place to make this question.
i've lurking this forums for quite sometime now, i've tried a lot of roms sense and AOSP... and in the last few days i've been using probably the most stable rom (liberation 3) besides a stock rom, but i still cant get used to sense 1.0 i just dont feel confortable using it, yes its incredibly fast, no lag ever, best battery life, but the UI just feels akward. im in love with sense 3.5 but not even with the latest gingertiny its fast enough for me, lots of lagging and sporadic FCs.
So my question is, wich rom (sense rom) dou you think would work for me, i would be confortable with a sense 3.0 rom or even a sense 2.0, but i need full functionality (720p recording, or at least 800 with no lag, camera saving to emmc, emmc mounting, wifi/3g drops) and faster and lees lag possible.
or should i try to get used to sense 1.0 again?
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I recommend inc2 mctwist or optimized shift bother are sense 2.1. Both are about as stable as you're gonna get with a non stock based rom. Most sense 3.0+ Roms don't get any support anymore and bugs never got fixed. I personally use aosp (incdeck) but the incredible really can't handle anything above 2.1 sense
I can second inc2 mctwist. It seemed to be the fastest and most stable non stock sense based rom for me. Personally though I still prefer AOSP roms. Hope you find one that works for you!
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I keep going back to the stock+ rom. All the features of the 3.0/3.5 roms are nice but the little bugs here and there bother me.
The bells and whistles are nice but they come at a price of poor battery life and lag due to our outdated hardware. I had good luck with Synergy which was a 2.1/3.x hybrid but is no longer supported.But I do always find myself going back to stock builds.
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