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Tytn Or Tytn II ???

I want to buy Tytn Or Tytn II ??
Which is better about performance & all ???

they are nearly the same uni just that the TyTN II have the ablity to tilt the screen when it is fully silde out.
Both uni have 400Mhz processor.
TyTN II have more RAM & ROM
I have seen report that TyTN II is getting lower bench mark socre due to the driver on the uni isn't function as they should.
try look up on http://www.gsmarena.com/

and on the tilt there is no flash for the camera and the tilt is still a bit buggy where as the 8525 has been pretty well figured out.

you guys forgot the most important feature. the tytn ii has a built-in gps

Since this is a Hermes thread...GO TYTN...many more customized ROMS!

I thought the tytn II was meant to have part of the processor deicated to the phone operation, rather than sharing the 400 for both? Kind of likedual core?

the tytn ii has a arm9 processor at 270mhz or something like that to handle communications, while the arm11 at 400mhz does the pda stuff

So am I correct in my understanding that the TyTN lack the second arm processor? ie it shares the 400mhz (or416 in some spec sheets) for both data and cmmunicaton processing?

TytnII does have a dedicated processor, and indeed the processor is faster having used both devices.
if you can get both the Tytn and TytnII for the same price then i would go for the TytnII simply because it'll be around for a lot longer than the tytn is and also there will be more and more roms being built for it if you look in the kaiser forums

XtreMe_G said:
you guys forgot the most important feature. the tytn ii has a built-in gps
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I think TyTN have GPS too
Check out this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291181

champsk said:
I think TyTN have GPS too
Check out this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291181
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did you read the thread until the end?? dont have read the whole thing, just read the very last post

truth hurts
I love my Tytn, don't get me wrong. I'm only eying an elf just because it's so damn small, and has double the memory....
Truth is, get the Tytn2 unless it's a big $ difference:
1- Second camera isn't a big deal- most people can't use it in NA anyway.
2- the main camera is 3MP with autofocus
3- it has GPS on-board, which is handier than a bluetooth unit, but not the biggest deal.
4- it has the 3G that the Tytn has, which is nice to have, a LOT faster than just edge...
5- most reviewers have stated it has "a more solid feel" to the unit, which is a complaint I have about my Tytn...
6- first and foremost: double the RAM/ROM. To me, this is a huge deal. I have a 6gb card, so storage isn't the issue, but if programs are stored on the machine, they're faster, and the added RAM means you can run just about anything you want.
Will I trade up to a Tytn2? not for 600-800 bucks.... Would I do it for 200-300? YEP.

I have both.
Only one choice -Tytn2
1. good performance (even without video drivers...)
2. memory more than enough
3. good working sirfIII gps -IGO and Tom Tom 20 sec aquis.
4. good battery vs Tytn
5. good looking PDA Phone- slim enough , perfect slide
6. main camera 3,2Mpixels with autofocus

Dude u totally stole my avatar!!!!! WTF

hermes is better
well friends, I already had a hermes, now I have a kaiser, and I can say hermes is so faster... Qualcomm cpus is the problem... I wanna back to hermes... I ll sell my kaiser and buy another hermes
I think htc wont give a decent video driver to kaiser,,, I saw htc sedna benchs, and the qualcomm score is still bad,,
the problem is qualcomm and not HTC....
friends dont buy any device with qualcomm cpu!!!!!

sebastianmc said:
... I wanna back to hermes... I ll sell my kaiser and buy another hermes
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Hmmm I have a second 8525 that I would be interested in trading, you interested ?

Philux-X said:
Dude u totally stole my avatar!!!!! WTF
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I guess I could say the same....
well, I ain't changing, and I can live with imitation.

I also found the Hermes to be faster. Even though there was more on board memory the tytn2 was slower than the hermes with the same apps open even though it reported to have lots of free memory. Sounds good on paper but not good in practice.
The tytn2 keyboard was sticky and slow to type on as you have to go back and press keys again and wait for the device to catch up with you and remember that you have to be left handed and like using the stylus with your left hand to like using the tytn2 because when the screen is open the stylus and front keys are on the left as opposed to the Hermes which on the right.
Also the tytn2 is buggy and the 3 of them that I had all soft reset themselves intermittently. Tytn2 was a big dissapointment. Im just lucky that I got my money back when they couldnt find me one that worked properly.
Hermes is a much better device.

tytn2 is slow like hermes before tweaking or cooked roms . I never soft reset tytn2 even in navigation + answer calls .

gps navigation + answer calls

When will HTC replace the Excalibur?

I wonder when HTC will provide a replacement for the Excalibur? I know there is the Cavalier but it has always appeared buggy and not as well designed.
I have had my Excalibur for 2 years now .... which is an absolute record for me ... during my ownership I have danced with the; Touch, Touch Dual, Samsung i780, Omnia, BlackBerry Curve, i620 and EVERY time I come back to Excalibur ...
I love the keyboard, the form factor and now 6.1 .... but it would be great to have GPS and 3G ... and I also just hanker after something fresh ....
It seems an age since it was launched and I know the Treo Pro is HTC ... but I find the Smartphone version of windows so much quicker to navigate and use....
Come on HTC give us an update ....

I agree it would be awesome to have the Excaliber2 with GPS and 3G enabled.

True, Tmobile 3G and GPS would absolutely be awesome !!!!! and of course Wifi and the rest of the work, I also prefer Windows Smartphone better than the Pocket PC

All that plus a faster cpu and I would be happy!

Excalibur2
I totally agree with u guys i have mine for 3yrs and it works great(other than going through about 8 hard resets and 16 cold booths.. lol) I am still loving my phone i would really hope that htc does come out with a second version

I think so, Excalibur is great but the battery is low capacity. Do you have any experience to fix this matter ?

I can think on this for an Exaclibur replacement:
Let´s wait a few months to see it!!

Raphael or Rhodium ?

Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia

I just bought my touch pro2 last week and have been overjoyed with it, save for a couple of issues regarding battery life. You can check these out in the 'got mine' thread in this subforum.
To better compare these two, head on to youtube and check out the touch pro VS touch pro2 video from pocketnowvideo. to summarise some of the differences -
1. touch pro2 has a bigger screen, 3.6 inches
2. tp2 has a higher resolution, 480 x 800, tp is 480 x 640.
3. improved TouchFLO 3D interface, it's almost perfect now.
there are other differences, so i suggest you check out the youtube video, or head on to www.pocketnow.com and check out their review of the TP2.

StealthNet said:
Hi there,
I´m an old time kaiser user, and Im currently planning to replace it with a Touch Pro or Touch Pro 2.
Basically, I have found out that both phones are "the same"... is that right ? Are there any important differences between the TP and the TP2 ?
Im looking for a sturdy phone. The kaiser is well and alive after almost 2 years using it, but... I think that if the rhodium is all out silver plastic, I think it is more susceptible to scratching and such...
Oh well... any opinions would be helpful.
Tia
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If $ is not a problem I would go for TP2 definetly.
It´s a fact that technology is making devices everyday more easyly replaceble...

OMG OMG OMG!!! I couldn´t wait!!! I just bought it!!!
Really really anxious!!!!

Good Move! Let us know how U like the new toy...

I have all mentioned devices and Rhodium is really the best!

Rhodium for sure
still own a Raphael but the Rhodium owns his little brother
far more intergrated menu's, landscape touch flo and so on!
even has a own BT app or so to set up bluetooth
i'm very very glad I bought the phone

Just received the tracking number... aaaaaaaarhhh!!!!!!

As per this link the Touch Pro 2 processor is worse than Touch Pro processor.
http://www.pestaola.gr/how-advanced-are-htc-touch-pro2-and-htc-touch-diamond2/
Processor used in Touch Pro2 was released in 2007 90nm (Qualcomm® MSM7200A™, 528 MHz)
Processor used in Touch Pro was released in 2008 65nm (Qualcomm® MSM7201A™ 528 MHz)
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7200a&c=qualcomm_msm7200a
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=cpu&id=a7201&c=qualcomm_msm7201
Not sure why an old processor was used in TP2
I still vote for TP2 .

I was about to post "oh that´s so stupid!" but then I realize.... that in fact it is a smart move from HTC, as stated on the site. They´ll prolly make more money.
Well... at least they´ll have mine...

Got it!
It is so sexyeh!!!! But batt life sux... well, let´s see how it will behave on a normal work day.

Blackstone - falling into oblivion?

Hello Xda fellows
Does anyone else have a strange feeling that our beloved blackstone is slowly but for sure falling into oblivion?
sigh

yes, of course it is. it is three genrations old now (touch pro 2 and diamond 2 are next generation and htc leo is the newest).
However, this doesnt mean its going to be forgotten. the android project is really gaining ground. the "improving gfx performance" guys have just released a killer graphics pack and all of the apps made in future for the td2 and tpro 2 (maybe even leo) will work fine.
so, to answer your question, it is getting a bit old (a year old now) but that doesnt mean its going to disappear. look at the polaris and kaiser

good to hear opinion like that thanks man

the good thing about our phones is that it is still "current" in that the _relatively_ "newly released" TD2 and TP2 have very similar specs to our phone...it's just not at the very top anymore

Falling into obvlivion might be correct, but that doesn't mean the device is bad. If you like a device, you like it nomatter how many new devices are out.

I Dont think its falling into oblivion, look at the specs...
More ram than most, better screen than most, wvga is becoming more and more recognised, you dont get a 3.5mm headphone socket on most other devices, 5mp camera, most others are 3 or below, and really as long as xda developers lives on all devices do too

As far as I can see, it's still the top of the tree until the Leo is released.

Major_Sarcasm said:
As far as I can see, it's still the top of the tree until the Leo is released.
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HTC are not making a phone called Leo.
Yes. I am a pedant

A month ago I sold my HTC Diamond for a Touch HD...
I had the option to go for a Touch Pro, Diamond 2 etc...
but after trying a few the screen on the Touch HD is far superior to any others tried even the Iphone doesn't look as perfect as the HD.
It runs as fast as both the Touch Pro and Diamond 2.
The only difference in my opinion is the TV out on the Touch Pro.

Its inevitable that as time goes on the HD will eventually become obsolute or redundant as you'll move to pastures green. However with the HD, I feel this is still a bit in the future. There is nothing out there to really make me consider getting my wallet out and purchasing it. As time goes on this will obviously change, but not just yet!!

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Its inevitable that as time goes on the HD will eventually become obsolute or redundant as you'll move to pastures green. However with the HD, I feel this is still a bit in the future. There is nothing out there to really make me consider getting my wallet out and purchasing it. As time goes on this will obviously change, but not just yet!!
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Now I would have absolutely agreed with you until this last week or so. The HD2 just looks too good to miss.
It'll certainly quieten the missus and her damned iPhone a bit.

Meh, I still got me HTC Universal running, the bigger the HTC the longer they last!

Blackstone is NOT going to fade out so soon.
Crap, I just switched from Polaris to Blackstone... )
And there has to be something much much better than HD2 to make me cry why have I bought HD...

I guess you are right!

about HD2, is just got one ~10 Days ago and i have to tell you, its not that different from the HD.
its just a little bit better in every way, but always just a little
(little faster, manila little smoother, gps little faster, screen a little bigger....)
but so far everything form the hd2 works just fine on hd (exept a free 3D game, forgot the name)

The only phone i would upgrade to is the HD2..
I love this phone! It may be buggy, badly designed vanilla rom and feel like plastic in your hands after a while, but you can do anything with it! It's powerful, got a _sweet_ display and it's the best phone I've tried surfing the web with.. With Opera Mobile 10 that is.
There's no phone out there worth upgrading to yet, this phone has still got atleast 6-12 months left in my hands..

INMHO I do not think that this phone, the HTC HD, will obsoleted soon. The most I read in others forums the most I think that still the HTC HD is on the TOP. The capacitive screen seems better than the one of LEO or HTC HD2, at least for use most application or write an sms. In addition, I have seen this evening in the developers and hacking forum that a multi-touch driver has been released for our HTC HD, so we can have the best of both worlds. Even, the Android runs quite smooth in the HTC HD so you can switch between windows and Android in less than 2 minutes. I am not thinking in change my phone in this moment, I quite satisfied, but If I had not one, I will take the advantage of the new release of the LEO to get a very cheap HTC HD in the second hand market.

If HTC had sorted out the Qualcomm driver situation I'd be all over the HD2, but I'm thinking I'll skip this generation, just not enough of an upgrade for me at the moment...

HD is a great phone
THUDUK said:
A month ago I sold my HTC Diamond for a Touch HD...
I had the option to go for a Touch Pro, Diamond 2 etc...
but after trying a few the screen on the Touch HD is far superior to any others tried even the Iphone doesn't look as perfect as the HD.
It runs as fast as both the Touch Pro and Diamond 2.
The only difference in my opinion is the TV out on the Touch Pro.
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Well, I have mine for about 3 months now.. ans I could have got many other phones.. but I agree with the superlatives you mentioned. skinny too, where most phones are a quarter brick in the pants.. I had to help a colleague with his Kaiser on a WM6.1 and use a stylus , only to realize and appriciate the touch HD.. Is it, eventually, become obsolete? yes, but at least not until 2011.. if I won't break it by then (flashing, or screen cracking it) I will keep it for a longer time. It simply suits my need. I am sure there will be other phoned, but until there is touch HD2 around, working in 3G US, I will keep it, flash it, test it and hope there will be enough chefs on this thread
Thank you folks for the sleepless nights you give me.. my wife is sure I have an affair, or I am into cyber sex.. until it does not stop- I will stay with the HD..

BigE said:
Well, I have mine for about 3 months now...
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Hi BigE! Long time no speak!
Good to find you in here!! I need your help...
AS you probably remember, I am a Trinity user. With MSkip's ProPlus Ultimate 3.5 QVGA 110209 installed, I am basically at peace. It's perfect for my needs.
BUT...
Recently, I've been tempted to buy a Touch HD, disable the TouchFlo and install MSkip's ProPlus Ultimate 3.5. Is it worth it?
The bigger screen, the more powerful processor, etc, etc... Will I really notice the difference if I just use Spb MS3.5?
I know you're not a massive fan of Spb MS3.5... I use it purely as I need an appointment list on my Today Page. That's why I don't use Manila. That's why as far as I can see I would not be happy with the TouchFlo 3D on the Touch HD. Such a shame it's missing!
I look forward to your advice. Maybe you'll convince me to leave Trinity!?
Mattster.

Windows mobile phone...

I am looking to get a new windows mobile htc phone. Of course its that time of year an my two year contract happends to be up in feburary so im available for a full upgrade. So im just trying to get some advice from the more experienced programmers, developers as to what kind of phone would you recommend? I would like it if they made a phone like the dash 3G but also with touch screen.. Do they make anything like that right now? I have looked at plenty of phones and am leaning towards the HTC touch pro but im iffy...

HTC Touch Pro is a nice phone.. i actually have a link on some right now are you in toronto area ? i can sell you one in brandnew condition just battery and phone no box or accessories but works we just have these phones left in the back we are a SP ppc test company they are coming up for sale. let me know 175$ cnd cash only in person. ?
Vtheme aka touchFlo 3D Pro wannabe lol its great..
on the s621, touch pro tho in my opinion is best hTC pocket Pc to date i think, even nicer looking then the Touch Pro 2.
Long Live the wm 6.5 HTC S621 and Touch Pro.. Best PPC

Na sorry man Im out of Kansas City but you have pretty decent prices but im wantin to buy new in box items. So you would prefer the touch pro or s621.. Is that the same as the dash 3G?

turtle1981 said:
Na sorry man Im out of Kansas City but you have pretty decent prices but im wantin to buy new in box items. So you would prefer the touch pro or s621.. Is that the same as the dash 3G?
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It's in 10.10 shape was only used 2 charges maybe.. no box ya an anything lol.
I like the S621 cause its keyboard design keys fn.. symbol camera button, IE, and email etc keys are nice i have a Ozone aswell an touch pro but Touch pro is worth getting they rock best design overall and fast and does eveything you want why by a HD when the touch is just as good moreless, still hTCs best looking ppc to date i think. Ozone is a nice phone tho dash 3G is nice a proper hTC Snap : )) touch pro is a wonder for touchflo etc homescreens cabs lots stuff to download to make it do a lot of cool things.

Owning them both i'll make my view:
The s620 is an awesome phone still, but slow processor low on storage and RAM but a nice layout regards smartphone.
CPU:Clock: 201 MHz
RAM_capacity: 64 MiB
ROM-capacity: 128 MiB
Display-Resolution: 320 x 240 (QVGA)
Cellular-Data:Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE
The Touch Pro is more recent device with better specs and a far easier nicer interface with TF3D also far more programs available.
CPU:Clock: 528 MHz
RAM_capacity: 288 MiB
ROM-capacity: 512 MiB
Display:Resolution: 480 x 640 (VGA)
Cellular_Data_Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA
Now my s620 is used by the gf the Kaiser is sat on my desk (being cooked) & the TouchPro is in my hand
Hope that helps

hey guys
i have htc s621, but am planing to sell it and then get a htc snap (the one with email button, released in march 2009).
could anyone pls recommend if i should keep the dash or get the snap..i read somewhere that the snap isnt good (like some buttons fall off after a period of time).

kachman said:
hey guys
i have htc s621, but am planing to sell it and then get a htc snap (the one with email button, released in march 2009).
could anyone pls recommend if i should keep the dash or get the snap..i read somewhere that the snap isnt good (like some buttons fall off after a period of time).
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I would try an get a HTC Dash 3G as the A key is in a bad spot on the snap especially if you are used to the S621 layout but i would honestly get a HTC Ozone.

turtle1981 said:
I am looking to get a new windows mobile htc phone. Of course its that time of year an my two year contract happends to be up in feburary so im available for a full upgrade. So im just trying to get some advice from the more experienced programmers, developers as to what kind of phone would you recommend? I would like it if they made a phone like the dash 3G but also with touch screen.. Do they make anything like that right now? I have looked at plenty of phones and am leaning towards the HTC touch pro but im iffy...
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just wait a bit and get the HD2
1GH SNAPDRAGON!

Wow I checked out the HD2 an that is an awesome phone but I still may have to go with the touch pro only because of a vast price difference.. But, the HD2 still maybe an option. Its a toss up now, time to draw straws.. LoL.. Thanks..