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Exchange SP2 Push Mail Providers

Hi all,
Just upgrading to new Imate ROM. Now it seems that Universal has push email can anyone recommend an Exchange SP2 direct push email provider for consumer market? Many thanks for taking the time to read.
Tom C (UK) :lol:

The onlyone I know for the moment is 4smartphone.net - if you find any better (means cheaper), let me know!

Some report are saying 4smartphone.net takes 30 seconds to push an email to your device, rather than 5 seconds or less that others are getting via their own exchange servers.
Its worth asking these website exchange account providers what frequency they run the push 'heartbeat' at - you might end up with a big bill if they haven't set the Exchange/firewall to a reasonable rate.

Device SMS Address
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?

Re: Device SMS Address
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!

Settings
I think it is that version. I'm using the new ROM version 1.30.68 with Radio version 1.09.00. I can see the push mail icon in Comm Manager, but it's greyed out, so I'm not sure where to go from here. The 4smartphone support pages are not exactly informative.
Can anyone point me to a website about setting this up? My searches are not getting me far.
Thanks.

Re: Device SMS Address
jdee246 said:
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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If you're using the aku2 rom then you don't need an sms address. The MSFP/Direct Push works via http not sms. Waaaaaay better!
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Is the AKU2 ROM available?
Where?
Thanks
Steve

Its a test aku2 universal rom...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=42743

Got it working
Just need to ignore the instructions on the 4smartphone web page about SMS Device.
From the moment of clicking send on my Desktop to the email arriving in my device inbox the time taken is about 25 secs, which includes gmail forwarding it to the 4smartphone address.

4smartPhone Help!!
Glad to hear that you got the SMS problem sorted which help me out too. I can now sync with contacts but what do I do for the email. Do I have to set an account up on WM5 which I have done but there is no push coming through I have to manually send and receive. Any help much welcome. Thanks

You need to set it up using active sync in WM5. You will need to add a server (secure.4smartphone.net) then your username, password and domain (4smartphone). It will then sync using the GPRS connection.
I've got Outlook desktop, Outlook Web Access (with smartphone) and Outlook on WM5 all synchronizing nicely. My only problem is that I have three pop email account on Outlook desktop, but 4smartphone only seems to work with one.

And just to add the obvious, you need to have email being forward to the address that you got @smartphone.com

Re: Device SMS Address
rossp said:
I've just signed up for the 4smartphone trial, but Orange are completely unable to tell me what the Device SMS Address should be. They don't have a clue what this is about. I was guessing [email protected], but that doesn't work.
Does anyone know what it should be?
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4Smartphone.net are US based, where email to SMS is very common. It took the Americans about three years to wake up to the fact that everyone else in the world has to pay for SMS messages to be sent - hence the new push technology from Microsoft.
What they are referring to is a feature known as AUTD (always up to date) which is how Exchange used to do push. A specially created SMS text message would be sent to your phone which told your device that something had changed, and it would then do a sync.
I am told that it worked very well - it is just unfortunate that for everyone outside of the USA the feature would cost many thousands to run for each single user.
Simon.

4smartPhone Help!!
Thanks for your quick reply. I have forwarding set up and all the correct settings for Active Syn in WM5, UserName, Password, Domain and Save password. Under the Options in ActiveSync there now appears and Exchange Server with the following selected Contacts, Calendar, E-Mail, Tasks.
I'm still not sure though what to do with the email all the above are syncing via 3g. In the Messages section do I have to create a new account and if so what are the correct setting for this?
Thanks again for the help and suggestions.
Tom C.

When it syncs with the Exchange server it automatically goes into the Outlook email inbox on your device. If you've previously been synchronizing with the desktop it wipes out those emails, which is why I'm trying the Pro version of 4smartphone and synchronising all three.
Have you checked if test emails you are sending are reaching the 4smartphone email address? You can do that by logging into the web version of Outlook via the link on their website.
Also the push email icon in Com Manager should now be working and it will say Microsoft DirectPush at the top.
That may not be much help, but I am also completely new to this.

4smartPhone
Once again thanks for the help. Just about got it sorted as I read your reply. The missing link for me is that the you don't have to sent up a seperate email account I was looking for server addresses extra but all those go under ActiveSync. Getting mails fine now but not too sure yet about sending them. Are yours sending fine or is there a delay?
Thanks again, you are still once step ahead of me

I've got Push email working with mail2web.com and have a few questions:
I've gota couple of email addresses that won't forward to my mail2web email account and I don't really want to use mail2web's harvester as that only checks once every hour, so I was wondering whether it's possible to set Outlook on my PC to synce with my mail2web account so that my PC will download emails from my POP accounts, then upload them to my mail2web server, which then pushes the emails to my phone?
Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
I'm sure I'll have more questions soon.! Cheers.

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Or is there a simpler way to do it?
Also, when I reply to an email that's been pushed the reply address is always my mail2web email address, which is a pain as it confuses people and gets rejected by my email groups. How can I change the default address that my replies go from, or even just change them on each email as I reply?
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Yup, use 4smartphones.net.
IT'S FOUR QUID A MONTH!

HI
i m using tmobie mda (usa) with the data plan and with the i can configure my pop3 email account on my phone and make to get the emails automaticaly after certain time
so then why do we need exchange server for
i mean i can be wrong too but if i m wrong can someone tell me the right thing
Thanks

I recommend Mail2Web, the simple setting and most important it is FREE.

Corp Blackberry using WM5 ?

Hi folks,
I have a T-mobile dash (WM5) with a data plan (but no blackberry plan). My new employer uses only Palm OS Treo's and Blackberries for mobile corp email - although they use Outlook for desktop corp email !
The IT guys were a little puzzled with the Windows Mobile Device ! Anyway, I was wondering if there is a way to
1) Use my T-mobile dash's data plan
2) Along with a WM5 app
3) to connect to my corp blackberry's server.
I downloaded the WM5 blackberry app but it doesn't seem to connect anywhere, nor could I figure out how to set it up. Is there a step by step guide somewhere ?
Also, is that app very similar to the Treo/blackberries ? Then I could simply give my dash+BB connect to the IT guys and they could configure it (if the UI etc are similar to blackberries ... they know only treos and blackberries).
On a final note, I wanted to convince the head IT tech to support WM5 Outlook 'officially'. For this I need some information on how easy, secure it is to deploy this setup. Their current exchange server is mostly inside the corp firewall, so copying the desktop outlook settings to the dash doesn't work (desktop is inside corp firewall, dash is outside).
Thanks folks
Sid

Hello Sid!
I just came from a similar scenario- here's how I resolved my issues.
To be able to support direct push in Microsoft Exchange, a patch has to be applied to the server (The patch is called "Messaging and Security Feature Pack (MSFP) for Windows Mobile 5.0"). Direct Push allows your WM device to be in constant communication with the exchange server by pinging the exchange box for any changes to that user account (email). When a new email arrives in your inbox, your phone then downloads the new message. You can also sync your contacts, calendar, etc.
Unfortunately, my company has not applied this patch yet. When I went from my blackberry to WM5 device, they were not thrilled.
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
If you are interested in learning more about T-Mobile's MyEmail, go to:
http://www.myemail.t-mobile.com
For more information regarding Microsoft's Direct Push Technology, check out:
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/articles/directpush.mspx
Cheers

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Hello Sid!
Thankfully, T-Mobile offers a push service called T-Mobile MyEmail which allows you to push email from any exchange/POP3 address. It will automatically locate the server address for you, just provide it your company email address and password.
From a security stand point, Microsoft's Direct Push is the most secure. It will also allow your system admin to remotely flash your handset if happens to get lost or stolen.
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But my corp email isin't POP or IMAP ... its exchange and blackberry. So while its a good suggestion, it won't help my situation. (?) I tried setting up my email via the "setup my email icon" but it doesn't work.
Also, exchange is inside the firewall so only "real" computers can access it via VPN/corp ethernet. Blackberry is outside the firewall. This is why my WM5 outlook can't even reach the real outlook server. I think I have two options
1) convince them to setup Exchange to talk to mobile devices
--> I'm going to forward your link to the IT guys so they can evaluate this option - thanks!
2) make my own WM5 device look/work reasonably similar to the Treo/Blackberries they are used to configuring. Then say "please set this up like a blackberry like you normally do".
For 2) I think I have found the app (bb connect?) but don't know
2.1) how to configure it
2.2) if it's the latest version (where do I get the latest version?)
2.3) If having just the data plan is good enough or do I need the special blackberry plan for this to work.
Hope that sheds more light .... thanks folks
Sid

Stoneage
Hi,
I have the same problem, only there's no convincing my IT department to support WM5 device. It supports only BB that are company property.
I have an external outlook privately setup with push mail and an alias for my corporate email, but the it seems like the redirect and auto forward rules I've defined in my outlook are forbidden or something, since they won't forward the mails I get from my exchange account to my external account.
Any idea how to go around this?
Some outlook plugin/software that will automatically forward mails to my external account?
Thanks.

Why don't you just get a blackberry data plan added to your account and use the blackberry connect client? That is all you need, as long as IT setup an account on your BES server at work.

Not that simple
If only life was that simple.
Not everybody can get a BB in our company and the IT department will not support devices that aren't owned by the company.
So, I'm looking for the workaround.

Great Alternative For Syncing Calendar And Email With An Exchange Server

At my job, our company emails are setup through an exchange server, and they only allow company computers to sync with it directly. They do have a website setup for Outlook Web Access so we can view contacts, email, the calendar, etc. through a webpage, but I would rather have my calendar and emails through the TF3D interface instead of logging into a website. This great little program called Chronobis allows me to sync the calendar, tasks, and contacts through the OWA website. There's also a new beta just released that allows you to receive email. It doesn't support sending email as of yet. It's a nice option for those in the same predicament as me.

great thanks

thank you so much
this is exactly what i needed

How did you get it working?
dmakk said:
At my job, our company emails are setup through an exchange server, and they only allow company computers to sync with it directly. They do have a website setup for Outlook Web Access so we can view contacts, email, the calendar, etc. through a webpage, but I would rather have my calendar and emails through the TF3D interface instead of logging into a website. This great little program called Chronobis allows me to sync the calendar, tasks, and contacts through the OWA website. There's also a new beta just released that allows you to receive email. It doesn't support sending email as of yet. It's a nice option for those in the same predicament as me.
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Can anyone give me some instruction on how to set this up. I have downloaded and installed the app and set up a pop e-mail account as stated on their forum, but still couldn't get it to work. There doesn't really seem to be anything by way of a help file on their site...
I have been after something like this as I don't think our work exchange server is configured to sync with mobile devices...
Cheers

Wonder if this might come in handy for current Mail2Web free users, unable to use Activesync from May 1st. OWA via desktop browser remains free.

thanks
this looks to have good potential .. will try now ! Thanks
One quick thing, would it "lock" my device as my exchange server does when I try to sync directly with it.

Glad you guys are finding Chronobis useful.
One of the biggest problems right now is that I'm having trouble getting this to work with Exchange 2007. In their infinite wisdom, the Exchange developers thought it was a good idea to just completely drop support for WEBDAV in 2007... I like the idea that it is all web services now, but it definitely isn't backwards compatible. I'm also concerned that access to the new web services might actually be controllable by the administrators, were WEBDAV had to be enabled for OWA to function. (Still looking into this one)
So sorry if you are on Exchange 2007, it might be a little while before Chronobis supports it.
Things seem to be working well on the Exchange 2003 front though. If you are having issues configuring it and have Exchange 2003, I suggest you take a look at (or post your questions to) the forums on the Chronobis site, that's where I look for them.
Thanks,
frejos - Chronobis Creator

hey guys, well when i go to my companys outlook access OWA site, it has a login that i need to enter on a certain page... https://owana.ford.com/exchange when i enter one username and password for that site, it then states that its been accepted and leads me to a popup that pops up where i enter a different set of username and password....so how would i set up this application?

Email Graphics

I use my TP2 to read email from my office Exchange Server. Graphics in the emails, however, appear as http links. When I press the link, it opens Opera and goes to the site. On my desktop, however, the graphics are displayed as part of the email without my having to press the link. Does anyone know how to configure the TP2 so that the graphics are shown in the email in the same way as on a desktop? Thanks.

HTML E-mail via Exchange
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I use my TP2 to read email from my office Exchange Server. Graphics in the emails, however, appear as http links. When I press the link, it opens Opera and goes to the site. On my desktop, however, the graphics are displayed as part of the email without my having to press the link. Does anyone know how to configure the TP2 so that the graphics are shown in the email in the same way as on a desktop? Thanks.
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Two Possibilities:
1) If the Exchange Server is version 2003, then it doesn't support HTML e-mail (inline/body graphics) for mobile devicies. Exchange 2007 does support HTML e-mail for mobile, as well as other improvements.
I recently switched Exchange server hosts to a different company that uses Exhange 2007 in order to get the improved mobile support, for my personal Outlook stuff.
So...if your problem is because your office is using 2003 you'll have to convince them to upgrade...and then there's version 2010...
2) If the Exchange Server is 2007, then maybe the E-mail Sync Options on your TP2 just need to be fixed: ActiveSync - Menu - Options - E-mail Settings - E-mail Sync Options - Message Fomat: HTML or Plain Text. HTML is usually already set by default...but if you're lucky that may be it. If HTML is greyed out on that setting -- not available to choose, then it's probably an Exchange 2003 server -- no HTML graphics in e-mail.

Thanks, MCBrian. On my ActiveSync settings, the HTML setting for Message Format was greyed out. I guess my office is using 2003 instead of 2007 Exchange Server. I'll confirm that and see if there is any chance they will upgrade to 2007.
Chuck

Help w/ Exchange email...

I can't get my exchange setup and am really wanting to find a way to at least get (don't need to respond even... just view).
I have all my info the phone asks for for exchange, but I get the following message when it trys to connect:
Your Microsoft Exchange Server account does not have permission to synchronize with your current settings. Contact your Exchange Server administrator.
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I've also tried setting up a rule in outlook to forward all incoming mail to a gmail account and that's not working either.
Are there any other options I have here? Corporate won't even talk to me (I tried) because they support ONLY phones they provide and they didn't provide this one (they're blackberry fanboys).
I used to have a blackberry (not one they provided) and could get email fine on it through BIS. Is there anything like BIS for phones other than BB? Something where you set up an exchange account online with the service and they then forward the mail to your phone or something?

I was able to setup my Exchange support no sweat. This is the first android device available in the US that can handle the harsh security policies set forth by my company. Works great.
You need to make sure you have the following info:
Account name
Password
Domain
Email Address
Server <this may be your issue>
whether or not they support SSL
The server is most likely not "yourcompany.com". For example my company uses "webmail.yourcompany.com". Secondly, your account name should be the same as your email address with the "@yourcompany.com" part. Its possible for it to be different. You should be able to get the domain name from your corporate PC/Laptop. aside from that, just try with the SSL option. If that fails try it again without.

byproxy said:
I can't get my exchange setup and am really wanting to find a way to at least get (don't need to respond even... just view).
I have all my info the phone asks for for exchange, but I get the following message when it trys to connect:
I've also tried setting up a rule in outlook to forward all incoming mail to a gmail account and that's not working either.
Are there any other options I have here? Corporate won't even talk to me (I tried) because they support ONLY phones they provide and they didn't provide this one (they're blackberry fanboys).
I used to have a blackberry (not one they provided) and could get email fine on it through BIS. Is there anything like BIS for phones other than BB? Something where you set up an exchange account online with the service and they then forward the mail to your phone or something?
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BIS is different than Exchange, it connects to Exchange but does it's own thing with email, calendar, etc..
If you have never connected to your Exchange server using ActiveSync, it would need to be configured on the Exchange server.
The forwarding is also an Exchange server side configuration that the "fanboys" would need to setup.
I know you can have gmail check email on an external account, did you try configuring that?

okay... so if you don't mine i'll post the info you're saying i need with what i think the information is based on what i'm pulling from my outlook on my work computer. i'll change the info though to keep things secure. this is what i'm asked for when i try to create the account and what i'm entering:
email address: firstname.lastnameATcompanyDOTcom
server address: two options here and i've tried both. the first is listed as the microsoft exchange server on the first window that comes up when i select the account: letters-letter22.ab.lettersDOTnet the second is listed under more settings > connection > exchange proxy settings: ab.lettersDOTcom
domain name: i'm not sure of this one but figured it was one of two things. the first would be what i type in before my username when logging in: ab-letters (so when i log in i type (ab-letters\username). the second would be the url for the OWA option which is: companymailDOTcom
username: again, i've tried two options one is just my username and the other is my full login as needed when logging into outlook or OWA (ab-letters\username).
password: password
and i've tried with both the ssl box checked and not checked.
that said, what am i missing or entering wrong? thanks for the help!

mycomputerisjunk said:
BIS is different than Exchange, it connects to Exchange but does it's own thing with email, calendar, etc..
If you have never connected to your Exchange server using ActiveSync, it would need to be configured on the Exchange server.
The forwarding is also an Exchange server side configuration that the "fanboys" would need to setup.
I know you can have gmail check email on an external account, did you try configuring that?
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i tried the gmail option. said the server didn't allow for pop access.

use the address you use to access webmail. usually it's
owa.company.com
webmail.company.com
mail.company.com
if they don't allow MS ActiveSync I don't know what you can do.
if POP or IMAP is not an option, and the forward is not working (most companies don't allow that as a data leakage prevention) there is little to nothing you can do.
just weird they don't allow ActiveSync. you would read emails out of the office and become more efficient. very bad business policy.

when i log into OWA... the address is:
h t t p s :// w w w .companymail.com/OWA/
(sorry for the spacing... won't let me post urls)
will that not work?

byproxy said:
okay... so if you don't mine i'll post the info you're saying i need with what i think the information is based on what i'm pulling from my outlook on my work computer. i'll change the info though to keep things secure. this is what i'm asked for when i try to create the account and what i'm entering:
email address: firstname.lastnameATcompanyDOTcom
server address: two options here and i've tried both. the first is listed as the microsoft exchange server on the first window that comes up when i select the account: letters-letter22.ab.lettersDOTnet the second is listed under more settings > connection > exchange proxy settings: ab.lettersDOTcom
domain name: i'm not sure of this one but figured it was one of two things. the first would be what i type in before my username when logging in: ab-letters (so when i log in i type (ab-letters\username). the second would be the url for the OWA option which is: companymailDOTcom
username: again, i've tried two options one is just my username and the other is my full login as needed when logging into outlook or OWA (ab-letters\username).
password: password
and i've tried with both the ssl box checked and not checked.
that said, what am i missing or entering wrong? thanks for the help!
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Your Email:firstname.lastnameATcompanyDOTcom
Your Server: companymailDOTcom <-- most likely your OWA server
Yoru Domain: ab-letters <--- from ab-letters\username
Accountname: username <-- from username
password: password
That should be enough. Of coarse try the SSL option both ways.

Here.. When we deployed our exchange server this is how we setup the server.
The main 2 things you need to know is email server and active directory domain. For this example ill use:
Email Server: mail.company.com
Domain: company.com
So..
Email: [email protected]
Server: mail.company.com
Domain: company.com (in some cases, it can be left blank)
Username: myname
Password: pass
Depending on how things are configure, sometimes you may need to use company\myname as the username, but most times not.
Also, as I mentioned before.. It really depends on how things are setup. If the server admins don't allow activesync, your out of luck. Also, things like hub transport servers in the mix can effect how email is accessed as well. If your admins can't give you the info you need for this... Um, perhaps they need to find other work.

mycomputerisjunk said:
Domain: company.com (in some cases, it can be left blank)
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By domain, it looking for your PDC (Primary Domain Controller). Not your companies URL domain unless you somehow named your internal PDC the same thing.
This would be the part that he types just before his username during his authentication sessions.
Let us know how you fair.

tried every suggestion offered here. sadly, no dice. i get the same security warning i mentioned in my first email. given that my previous BB was NOT issues by corporate yet i was able to retrieve work email fine (through BIS of course), i can only assume that they've somehow managed to set up the system so that it doesn't work with anything other than BIS or BES.
looking for any other possible solutions/alternatives. as i mentioned before, the whole forwarding thing didn't work so unless there's another way, gmail isn't even an option. any thoughts?

All out of ideas for getting email and events pushed to your phone. You can use the HTC Sync App and do it at the desktop. Also the OWA client works great in the web browser.
Lastly, you can escalate internally, but I'd recommend writing up a small business case to demonstrate the benefits before you do so. They did that in my company and that got use away from having to use Good Link.

If you can get your exchange administrator to agree to allow Activesync connections for retrieving mail, you could use an app like Nitrodesk's Touchdown v5 (for 2.0 and above).
Been using it on my Droid and it's stable and reliable if a bit choppy when swapping inbox folders.
Hope that helps.
Sent from my Droid using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk

ya. i tried that one too just in case to i knew for certain it was on their end and not something with the phone. nice program.
sadly... no help. there's no way i'm going to convince them to do anything different than what they're doing now. when i say i work for a corporation, i mean i work for a CORPORATION. LOL. it's frikin huge with tons of employees, all over the world. that makes me a tiny little bug. LOL. when i made my call to IT they wouldn't even talk to me about anything email-cellphone related since i'm not high enough to even be considered for a corporate issued BB. LOL.
i do have one more chance. i can't remember what options are available in BIS, but my wife is going to take over my storm1 now that i have the new incredible. we're going in today to make the swap. my hope is that i can set my work email up in BIS as i did before but then auto forward it to a gmail account from within BIS. will be nice if i'm able to do this though it's still stupid that they don't let their frontline workers have access from their personal cellphones.

well, i made a bit of progress today. i still haven't connected yet, but after adding my account to BIS i was able to view the email server it uses to connect to the exchange server which is different from the one i was using before.
that said, i'm not getting that security msg i was getting before. now, though, i keep getting a message saying i can't be authenticated. i've tried lots of different options for the username to see if i could get in with no luck. any thoughts? i feel like i'm closer... but still so far away. thanks for the help!

cyberstraz said:
If you can get your exchange administrator to agree to allow Activesync connections for retrieving mail, you could use an app like Nitrodesk's Touchdown v5 (for 2.0 and above).
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Personally, I like the one built in to incredible more than the touch down app. I can see it all using the HTC widgets in Sense. Its very nice.

found a work around i thought i'd share. it's not great by any means, but it lets me view work email on my phone.
i setup a seperate gmail account just for work. then in outlook on my work computer i added the gmail account as an imap. then i created a rule to copy all incoming mail to the gmail inbox folder in outlook. this then syncs (obviously) with the gmail account and i pull the gmail to the phone through the native gmail app. it requires me leaving my computer at work on 24/7 but it's the only solution i could come up with for the time being.

Can anyone confirm if the incredible deals with the issues raised in this post ? code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=4475 e.g. remote wipe/Simple Pin request etc?
Thanks.