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This is just an idea, but the android phones that seem to have longer battery lives all have low RAM compared to the higher end devices.
Are we needlessly draining power by loading more apps into our larger RAM? Since it isn't a persistent memory form it will always pull a current when in use.
Therefore the larger the memory, the more current would be drained. I don't know how much of an effect this would have but is there anyway we can control how much RAM the desire has access to in order to test?
Well I think its probably more to do with high end phones loading more apps at startup, having bigger brighter screens and having bigger power hungry processors. The power for ram would be very small.
Not necessarily, phones like the Samsung Spica have good battery life & comes with a 800Mhz processor.
I just want to know if there is a way of fashioning a kernel at 256-384MB. People have played around for a long time with undervolting with little luck so why not this?
always worth a try. Any saving on the desire battery is a bonus I am nearly always on 30% after a day of light use.
Dynamic memory modules (ram) use full power regardless of load or current free/used space.
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HELP EVERYONE
MY HTC ONE V drains faster even in normal use.
I just use the phone for texting
Wifi OFF
Data OFF
GPS and Location OFF
Bluetooth OFF
from 77% after five hours it became 39%
and also is the HTC One V lag? is it normal? how to run the device so smooth?
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE EVERYONE FOR HELPING ME. GRATEFUL :")
Def not normal. My battery with everything on WiFi, sync etc. And playing music for 4 hours my battery is at 72 after 10 hours
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You have an app that uses the cpu too much = it eats a lot of battery.
Yea true! Some app is sucking the juice off your battery! See if you have some background app running which is trying to connect to the Internet (Since you have both data n WIfi off). Usually these apps eats up a lot of CPU speed. Could explain the lag issue too
Also does you phone heat up?
Great battery life on this phone. Better than most I've tried. Watch what apps you have installed as well. They might be tapping the juice in the background.
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yep something is draining ur battery and eating lot of ram
wt free ram ua having?
and if u use swift key x thn think twice it uses more thn 3mb ram when u nt using 50+ whn ua using
soo think ovr it
dnt keep screen brightness to max
it will drain juice twice faster whn ua at home keep it low and when out 25% is enough to make u see the screen in bright daylight
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paarthdesai said:
yep something is draining ur battery and eating lot of ram
wt free ram ua having?
and if u use swift key x thn think twice it uses more thn 3mb ram when u nt using 50+ whn ua using
soo think ovr it
dnt keep screen brightness to max
it will drain juice twice faster whn ua at home keep it low and when out 25% is enough to make u see the screen in bright daylight
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Just keep it at auto-brightness...
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Yes I must point out that the battery life on this phone as I have observed is quite above average.
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Yes I must point out that the battery life on this phone as I have observed is quite above average.
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I definitely agree on that. At this day and age of smartphones and their battery lives, this phone is rather exceptional.
Use apps like Watchdog and Wheres is my droid power to check what is using more cpu/battery! And remove it or find a alternative
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Its always better to install apps which are without ads (mostly freewares are like that only). Keep the brightness at optimum coz its the screen which uses most of the battery.
The more the softwares are running at a moment, the more the RAM is used and hence the battery runs out qiuckly.
Dont keep wi-fi or internet connectivity open always.
Or else u can install third party softwares like Juicedefender or Easy Battery Saver.
Oh and most importantly NO TASK KILLERS!
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Its always better to install apps which are without ads (mostly freewares are like that only). Keep the brightness at optimum coz its the screen which uses most of the battery.
The more the softwares are running at a moment, the more the RAM is used and hence the battery runs out qiuckly.
Dont keep wi-fi or internet connectivity open always.
Or else u can install third party softwares like Juicedefender or Easy Battery Saver.
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Or you can install the program AdFree, set the adress ip for ads to be ignored and you will have your phone ad free .
And those softwares "juicedefenders" are good on a short term but on the long run it causes problems.
Use it as stock without any programs that help you to have more battery or **** like this..
Check the battery usage through Settings > Power > Battery use.
No need to use a third party app for this (unless you've removed this by any means).
Sometimes software issues cause these problems on the phone (even on the stock ROM). Common culprits are "Phone is idle", "Inactive" and "Android system". If these are reporting battery use above ~10% (and you haven't actually had the phone inactive for most of the time), the problem should be resolved with a factory reset.
Otherwise, unless you've tampered with the bootloader this would be covered under the 24 month manufacturer's warranty (12 outside EU) and the device should be sent in for a battery swap / given back to retailer as DOA.
Also, the device isn't the fastest one. The processor is running at 1Ghz with 512Mb of RAM to go along with it. The solution is to load a kernel with overclocking capabilities (Titanium for example) and crank up the CPU to 1,5 or 1,7 GHz. I would assume all of them can run 1,5 GHz as I suspect the processors are actually underclocked to keep battery life long.
Obviously this would reduce your battery life, but having less than 24 hours of battery life on an unmodified One V is what I would call poor unless you are a heavy user.
I hope this helps.
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Check the battery usage through Settings > Power > Battery use.
No need to use a third party app for this (unless you've removed this by any means).
Sometimes software issues cause these problems on the phone (even on the stock ROM). Common culprits are "Phone is idle", "Inactive" and "Android system". If these are reporting battery use above ~10% (and you haven't actually had the phone inactive for most of the time), the problem should be resolved with a factory reset.
Otherwise, unless you've tampered with the bootloader this would be covered under the 24 month manufacturer's warranty (12 outside EU) and the device should be sent in for a battery swap / given back to retailer as DOA.
Also, the device isn't the fastest one. The processor is running at 1Ghz with 512Mb of RAM to go along with it. The solution is to load a kernel with overclocking capabilities (Titanium for example) and crank up the CPU to 1,5 or 1,7 GHz. I would assume all of them can run 1,5 GHz as I suspect the processors are actually underclocked to keep battery life long.
Obviously this would reduce your battery life, but having less than 24 hours of battery life on an unmodified One V is what I would call poor unless you are a heavy user.
I hope this helps.
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Actually, a good kernel can improve battery life even if you overclock your cpu. HTC's kernel doesn't come with all the tweaks available for volting and battery life. So if a good dev makes a good kernel, the battery should be the same as running on stock, but with faster performances. Adi_Pat has done a great job with his kernel. I was running it for 2 days until I needed to get a replacement for my phone and now I am waiting to get a new one so I can run it again. I even overclock it at 1.9 ghz and run it for 1 full day and after almost 8h of wifi on, the battery still had 50%. So if you don't have an app that kills your juice, you have definitely a poor battery built in.
does it lag
it was going to buy this phone but saw this vid /watch?v=JptIYZl8qmE that said it was very lag. do you think i should buy this or the sony arc s. plz help
I had some similar issues until I did the following:
Run the battery completely dead until the phone shuts itself off, then put it on the charger with the phone off. Charge it until it is at 100%. Take it off the charger and turn it on. Turn it off again, put it back on the charger until the LED is green, then turn it on again. This helps Android to calibrate the battery.
Install Quick System Info and see what apps are running and how much resources they are using. Also, close all apps, then go into Settings>Apps>Running and see what is running. Look for any apps that shouldn't be running and uninstall them. You have something running in the background and need to get rid of it, this will help you do that.
Uninstall Swiftkey X or Thumbs Keyboard or any other keyboard apps you put on there. Uninstall any weather/clock widgets like HD Widgets or Animated Weather. Use the stock keyboard and stock weather widget (they both work pretty well).
After doing all of this I consistently get home after 10 hours from work with about 60% after moderate usage. I also have almost no lag unless I am playing a more graphically intensive game. Couldn't be happier.
Hello Champs.. I am first time user to this forum so pls excuse any idiot questions if it may seem.
I tried to go through threads to find answers but got completely confused, so though to put my question in simple words here.
I have Desire HD running task killer and Juice defender ultimate with extreme power saving option set and also optimized settings but still my phone don't last more than a day of normal usage. I just check emails, read news and call.. I do not play games and use any CPU intensive app. Phone is not rooted and running 2.3.5v of android
One of my friends told me after flashing ROM, battery power is improved by 40% in case of his tablet, so I am wondering if there is any suggestion for me to use for my Desire HD mobile. I have tried all options at application and settings level to improve the battery life.
As I am not too techincal in this field, if someone could write me few high level steps from start to end to get better battery life ROM and / or jellybean on Desire HD, I'll try to find out low level details of those steps in this forum and root (and flash) my mobile.
My sole requirement is to get as much battery as possible and if possible, some latest android version (4.1 or 4.2) to avail the new features.
Also, would there be an option to take the snapshot of current mobile setup in case if rooting / flashing goes wrong, I could revert back to the current version without loosing settings / data.
Thanks for your help.
two things, go to settings>about phone> battery
Or something like that. Take screenshots of your battery consumption, and the amount of time for each. Without that we can't know what's really causing your battery drain.
That said, a day of use will pretty much wind down your phone, the DHD has a very poor battery, decent sized screen, and most modern smartphones don't last terribly long anyways. However, you said you weren't using it too hard, so I'm not sure what it could be
As for juice defender, make sure that the intervals are set to no less than 15 minutes. 10 minutes pushing it. if you set it to 5 minutes, your phone will constantly be waking up from sleep (ultra battery saving mode), and constantly enabling and re-enabling radio. That'll cause more drain than it will save. At 15 you'll notice definitive increases, and at greater your battery will only get better.
Get rid of the task killer, or disable autotask killer and keep task killing to an absolute minimum. Never kill all your user apps at once. Kill only very large resource hogs (e.g. after playing a game, kill it). An autotask killer is very bad for your phone, and for your battery. Linux naturally tries to keep as many processes 'running' or cached in the background, using up a lot of your ram- it makes multitasking better, so in linux this is a good thing. With windows, it does the opposite, and if you run out of RAM you're screwed. A task killer will try to ruin that behavior, and in the end both performance and battery life will suck. It hurts battery life because after you kill that app, it'll just restart itself in the background- using more CPU therefore battery. Plus it also wakes your phone up from sleep when it needs it. I would only recommend a task killer for a phone with 512mb of RAM.
If it's an older battery, you could also have lost a lot of it's charge. I recommend installing battery monitor widget, and letting it run in the background. It'll estimate your mAH (battery capacity). If it's over 1,000, you're fine. If it's around 800, not bad, still doable. If it's at around 600, I would recommend going in for a replacement battery. I'm using an Anker 1500 (amazon), and I highly recommend it. Mugen 1600 is very good one, but it'll cost you a lot more money. I would not recommend an original HTC one.
finally, installing a custom ROM may or may not help battery life. With HTC Sense based ROMs, I've noticed a battery increase. In AOSP (unmodded, as google intended) gingerbread ROMs, you'll also notice a battery increase. With AOSP ICS, JB4.1.2 and 4.2.1 battery life is hit and miss, some ROMs will get you better battery, some will get you worse. You'll need to experiment around with it.
Also, yes you can backup everything after you install a custom recovery. I recommend looking up AAHK (advanced ace hack kit) on google and youtube, as well as rooting and S-OFF in general on youtube.
Thanks for your reply... Really appreciated. I'll look at the suggestions and see if it is unnecessary to root if 1 day battery is expected.
Do you think recommended high power battery actually improves usage time or people just compare their used up battery with new high capacity ones and think they hv got more juice in it. If high capacity ones really give another 2-3 hours of browsing as compared to OEM 1230 mah battery, I would rather buy it instead of flashing Rom.
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Hello, I have an HTC ONE M8 for 2 months and I was verry happy because his battery is so strong.
Last week my battery decreases very much
In standby in one hour it decreases like...10%
In the morning I find the htc with 0% battery after a 8h sleep from 30%
What's the problem?
Thank you all!!!
your HTC m8 battery decrease becouse other apps are have in background run so your battery is drain I just suggest you solution is use any Ram booster like smart Ram booster and stop background proccess then your battery life is improve & if you want instance Ram boosting then get Root access on your device
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Please don't use or recommend ram boosting apps, they're all junk.
Better off with uninstalling crappy apps that keep your phone awake, or if you really need them, greenify can help.
Use Gsam or BetterBatteryStats for diagnosing the problem, plenty of threads here with advice, so do a search.
Playing Candy Crush for 22 hours straight can take its toll on your battery (and your marriage). Rate this thread to express how the OnePlus 3T's battery performs under heavy use. A higher rating indicates that it lasts a long time even when playing games, streaming video and audio, and doing other CPU-intensive activities.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
One thing I noticed about the phone is that the 6gb of free ram that is bragged is really more like 4.9 gb after a reboot and 4gb after about an hour even without using the phone and I can't seem to find any apps that are eating up the ram. can someone explain why this is the case? It doesn't seem to hinder the performance at all but I haven't tried a speed test so I'm not certain.
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One thing I noticed about the phone is that the 6gb of free ram that is bragged is really more like 4.9 gb after a reboot and 4gb after about an hour even without using the phone and I can't seem to find any apps that are eating up the ram. can someone explain why this is the case? It doesn't seem to hinder the performance at all but I haven't tried a speed test so I'm not certain.
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system and kernel will use ram too (possible caching), and most likely wont show up. thats normal.
oneplus 3t is great in battery life ...i am getting 6hours sot and in that i uses snapchat and instagram a lot....for me its best battery life phone
spireweb said:
One thing I noticed about the phone is that the 6gb of free ram that is bragged is really more like 4.9 gb after a reboot and 4gb after about an hour even without using the phone and I can't seem to find any apps that are eating up the ram. can someone explain why this is the case? It doesn't seem to hinder the performance at all but I haven't tried a speed test so I'm not certain.
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.. lol
Your phone ram is supposed to be used, its how android works, you will NEVER ever have phone with 0% of ram used and if it doesnt hinder the performance stop complaining about it
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.. lol
Your phone ram is supposed to be used, its how android works, you will NEVER ever have phone with 0% of ram used and if it doesnt hinder the performance stop complaining about it
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Wow complaining about having 4gb of FREE RAM.. Mine has a total of 3gb and you have more free then mine total. You will never use that much up and run out. If your at that much free ram out of a total 6gb then I'd say it's running great. Mine usually sits at half 1.5 or a little more free but having that much RAM you'll always be sitting at more then half free cause you'd have to be eating up more then 3gb to get to half and I've never seen a phone use more then 3gb even multi tasking. Your always going to use some, kernel, apps,etc so sitting at 4gb free is great
Under heavy daily usage I get almost a full day. Thats a lot for me. All day whatsapp, calls, spotify, bt headphones, fitbit with notifications, countless hours of facebook etc.
I'm not a heavy user. But normally (without gaming), starting from 9.30 am, I put it charging at 2 am (after a day combining 70 % under 4g+ and 30% wifi, all account I have with push sync but sure I'm also working so there's a period of 8-9 hours where I use it only to quick write some whatsapp or checking notifications but after work I usually watch anime or TV series saved from Netflix) and I reach always 4-4.30 hours of screen with 20-25% still remaining. I'm really satisfied, it's a very good smartphone. And if I miss some juice, well....dash charge is the candy
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I'm not a heavy user. But normally (without gaming), starting from 9.30 am, I put it charging at 2 am (after a day combining 70 % under 4g+ and 30% wifi, all account I have with push sync but sure I'm also working so there's a period of 8-9 hours where I use it only to quick write some whatsapp or checking notifications but after work I usually watch anime or TV series saved from Netflix) and I reach always 4-4.30 hours of screen with 20-25% still remaining. I'm really satisfied, it's a very good smartphone. And if I miss some juice, well....dash charge is the candy
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Until the op3t, i had Nexus 6p. This op3t has some good battery. I allways use 100% brightness, 3 emails, 4g combining with wifi, a lot of clash royale and clash clans, WhatsApp, some YouTube ir Spotify and allways 4h SOT or more. Im impressed
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One thing I noticed about the phone is that the 6gb of free ram that is bragged is really more like 4.9 gb after a reboot and 4gb after about an hour even without using the phone and I can't seem to find any apps that are eating up the ram. can someone explain why this is the case? It doesn't seem to hinder the performance at all but I haven't tried a speed test so I'm not certain.
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that's normal, imagine phones with 3gb of ram only having 900mb free after an hour of use with no apps open.
I have two Google accounts, Facebook (with Messenger) and WhatsApp, automatic Sync always on: the battery life is not so positive as I wish it would be given the "low" resolution of the display and other battery saving settings switched on! Google Play Services and Android System eat a lot of battery all the time!!!
i cant get more then 10hours in full charge. my average is removing from charge around 6:30AM and on 3PM, its my last 5% and back to the cord. how the hell you guys can have almost entire day!? this is insane for me.
Im on my default settings out of the box with developer option doze mode enable, automatic backup is enable, autosync on, with fb mssenger, whatsapp, skype installed. My battery would last me around 16hrs of heavy usage w/ 7hrs SOT,,,, with casual use my battery would last 21hrs tops with 5hrs sot. Overnight drain of 9% in wifi and 6% in mobile data.
I tried gaming in full resolution in my oneplus 3T (my game is Mobius Final Fantasy) and I got over 6 hours game time before I hit below 10% battery. That's crazy.
can someone explain if i am getting a good battery life?
RE910177 said:
can someone explain if i am getting a good battery life?
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Holy cow yes.
RE910177 said:
can someone explain if i am getting a good battery life?
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Thats really just showing your idle time is really good - no drain in idle is good but depends really what SOT your getting when you start using it