Thanks here go to srwalter for this much-needed update to make GPS work on Donut with both Vogue and Kaiser. I may never need to boot WM again !!
WORKING:
GPS Lat/Long Location
NOT WORKING:
Altitude
Speed
AGPS
Heading
(Therefore Google Nav is not fully functional and your location is a little jumpy)
UPDATE: This rootfs DOES NOT work on Eclair builds, and is rapidly becoming outdated. Check Android HTC at SourceForge for the latest basefiles.
To make things much easier (and for those of you who can't/don't use adb), here is the (unofficial) updated rootfs.img I put together this morning, it is based on the latest rootfs, the only change being the new donut libgps.so created by srwalter.
Download it, rename it to rootfs.img, and put it in your /android folder on your sdcard, replacing the old one.
And holy hell, I stepped out onto my back porch, and got a fix within 30 seconds. Absolutely amazing. Enjoy with the new Google Goggles and Google Maps Navigation!!!
EDIT: zShare Mirror
tried to use wifi but no luck acquiring ip. noticed it my data connection seems more consistent and seems quite a bit faster. using enatefox's dark donut 2.1 on AT&T with a tilt
ps thanks polyrhythmic for the quick work on getting this rootfs working on ext2
DLing now...hope it fixes data on Donut since there is NOOO at&t 3G in my area...there's a map for that...lol
Everything is working here... Data, Wifi, Calls as well.. when other part hang up then directly you see missed call.
This Rootfs is better for me personal
So this allows connection to 2.5 G (edge) networks?
Upgrading to Android Donut!!
It's great!, your work is very appreciated in Spain. I have tried the new RootFS in Donut and wifi and 3g data are working very well.
Thanks a lot!!!,
You're the best!!!.
lauyanyameric said:
the rootfs doesn't work on my kaiser, no ext2 partitions, not even finish booting either..
is this rootfs a replacement of vilord's rootfs v2.3?
or does it's working with mssmison's rootfs v2.2 (rootfs + recovery)?
it's frustrating as vilord's v2.3 only can only start the ext2 installer with the Volume-Down button exclusive to vogue. how about to assign another button "universal" to other compatible machines (if they care), or simply just "press any key"?
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This is built off of mssmison's rootfs v2.2, so you must already have your ext2 system and data partitions created, but using VolDn is not required.
FYI for vilord's 2.3: VolDn is not 'exclusive to Vogue'. it is the same on the Kaiser as it is on Vogue: Left Soft Key. If you 'press any key' other than VolDn it will continue without the installation stuff.
New rootfs.img in first post
New rootfs is working !!! GPS IS WORKING
after long period i have connection. Restart and try again within couple of seconds i have connection
Volume buttons, and sipdroid..
A month ago I updated my android with the then available package. (Vilords).
I didn't delete the data.img, oops, but wow! sipdroid could make a call, for some reason it couldn't recieve a call. And I was able to use the mic on the search page.
I tried this rootfs, and this time deleted the data.img. I was very impressed by the speed, but then again I have a 100% battery too.. Anyhow, sipdroid didn't work I could make a call and hear the other side but it seems like the microphone doesnt work cause I couldn't hear myself when I called my house phone's answering machine, also couldn't do a voice search.
Love the progress, something needs to be merged between the two filesystems.
GPS - Works, but still searching for GPS
GPS appears to be up and running, but partially. In Google Maps Navigation, the blue location dot definitely is working with GPS, but the turn-by-turn directions don't seem to "see" this location. The screen says "Searching for GPS," and the directions treat it as if I'm still at the starting point, even if I'm quite far away from it.
Similar symptoms in the My Tracks application. Location appears, but the location data isn't actually used by the program.
tyler51773 said:
I tried this rootfs, and this time deleted the data.img. I was very impressed by the speed, but then again I have a 100% battery too...
Love the progress, something needs to be merged between the two filesystems.
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Rootfs is not related to speed, battery is not related to rootfs or speed either. This is not a thread to debug your general Android problems, your problem could be caused by your ROM, Radio, data corruption, or a number of other factors.
You are welcome to merge any two rootfs as you see fit, it is simple to mount them under Linux, diff them, and make changes. I doubt that you'll find any improvements in old rootfs, however.
@usatraveler: GPS is almost entirely working. The blue dot does represent your location. You may not know this, but to get a true 3D fix in GPS takes several satellites and often several minutes, especially from 'cold start'. Maps will show you an 'approximate' location in the meantime. If you run Google Nav for several minutes as I have you will see it lock on to your route. Keep in mind also that Google Nav is still very much in beta itself. The My Tracks app probably needs longer to get a fix as well.
There are GPS apps in the market where you can get the raw data and debug info, similar to HTC's GPSTool in WM... I haven't tried one recently though.
polyrhythmic said:
@usatraveler: GPS is almost entirely working. The blue dot does represent your location. You may not know this, but to get a true 3D fix in GPS takes several satellites and often several minutes, especially from 'cold start'. Maps will show you an 'approximate' location in the meantime. If you run Google Nav for several minutes as I have you will see it lock on to your route. Keep in mind also that Google Nav is still very much in beta itself. The My Tracks app probably needs longer to get a fix as well.
There are GPS apps in the market where you can get the raw data and debug info, similar to HTC's GPSTool in WM... I haven't tried one recently though.
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OK, thanks. So just making sure we're on the same page - I am aware that it does take some time to get a true GPS fix, and the location is approximate in the meantime. In my case, I get the following sequence:
-Blue dot with or without surrounding circle, non-moving as I move, ostensibly a WiFi/data-based approximate location. Then,
-Blue dot with no surrounding circle, my exact location, moving as I move, every second or so. I had believed this was when a GPS fix has been achieved.
My question is, is there yet another step to a "true" GPS fix after that? I had been running Navigation for approximately 10 minutes in that second step, under apparent GPS fix, with Navigation not adjusting its directions to my route. Thinking again, in My Tracks, I should try actually recording a track to see what happens.
That said, this is certainly an impressive stage of development.
Face-meltingly awesome.
Three cheers for you GPS development types!!!!!!
I can now get a GPS fix within about 45 seconds outside!
The only thing I noticed is that Google Maps Navigation gets confused, and keeps showing "searching for GPS" even though it continually updates my position, presumably because the GPS isn't reporting a definite speed.
Yes
Yes...I've notice this too...kinda sucks because without that fix you can't get turn by turn =(...but great job with the GPS none the less!
Yup love the working GPS, but having the same problem with the direction / berring in Google maps and other locations. I can get my long / lat but it does not seem to know the direction I'm heading. Even on a 30 minute car ride, Google maps will update the location of the blue dot, but never the direction i'm traveling. Or in navigation mode, it will always say looking for GPS, so it will update my location, but not give me turn by turn.
polyrhythmic said:
This is built off of mssmison's rootfs v2.2, so you must already have your ext2 system and data partitions created, but using VolDn is not required.
FYI for vilord's 2.3: VolDn is not 'exclusive to Vogue'. it is the same on the Kaiser as it is on Vogue: Left Soft Key. If you 'press any key' other than VolDn it will continue without the installation stuff.
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Somebody did mention the Left Soft Key on Kaiser as it's the same of VolDn on Vogue, but I pay huge attention and never saw "Prompted to presss the VolDn now" as the Vogue chef said when I run the HaRet, even the words are so tiny but I'm pretty sure I can catch every single one. Could you tell me why I miss the prompted hints or when should I press the Left Soft Key for ext2 partition?
The prompt definitely comes up if you're using the recent rootfs... it will continue after a few seconds if you don't press a button, however. This rootfs is now outdated unless the new ones don't work for you.
Any new updates on a rootfs that will provide 100% GPS functionality including the fix for the "Searching For GPS..." in Google Nav?
Related
Wanted to know if anyone has already done this or wanted this..
I wanted to have GPS icon appear on the header when the gps is turned on. Obvisouly due to the program working I will know if the gps is on, just thought it would be cool to have an icon display like when you are connected to BT device or similar.
I figure once the software makes the call to open the gps device, all we would need to do is call for its status, of if its opened then display icon.
Anyway let me know.
Burn
Hmm most GPS Applications are Fullscreen, or at least i want the Header to be hidden, so i think its perfect the way it is, with the Orange LED indicator ;P
"all" there is to be done would be a program that checks if GPS COM Port is opened, since this is indicated by the left Orange LED, there is already some "software" sensing the open COM Port, so i think it should be possible to reroute that to a GPS Icon Indicator on Today screen or taskbar, but i'm not sure...
GPS Issue
While trying to find out if my GPS "static navigation" was off, I think I might have screwed up the receiver.
I was trying to use a golf gps program, and watch the yardage update constantly.
I used SirfTech, and MMSirfSetup to try and turn off static navigation. However MMSirfSetup seemed to just hang up, and SirfTech seemed to actually work, but now I can not get my golf program back up and running to see the satellites.
I am going to re flash the rom and see if that helps...
ANY SUGGESTIONS?????????????
Have also been looking for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360042
but would like it to show status e.g GPS on/data but no lock/locked position. Similar to the wifi icon.
Advantage would be that you wouldn't have to fire up your app (e.g tom tom) only to find you have no signal
tajw said:
Have also been looking for this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360042
but would like it to show status e.g GPS on/data but no lock/locked position. Similar to the wifi icon.
Advantage would be that you wouldn't have to fire up your app (e.g tom tom) only to find you have no signal
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Easily do-able but one problem i foresee, can more than one program use the gps com port? not usually, so u'd have to use some program like "gpsGate" to create virtual gps com-ports. then ur icon program can read in the gps signal, process it and change the icon to suite the data flow. utlimately a very simple application and one i think i might do.
I'm a developer, write a free gps tracking system. bought an orbit cos it can be programmed and has a gps receiver and mobile connection all built in. give me a short while and I'll have the app up and running
Sean
Nice!
I am embedded software engineer and am just getting started in the CE world, but I firgued that it would be pretty easy to just catch when the program calls gpsOpen() or something of that nature. Looking forward to hearing what you come up with.
Burn
Seanpu1
Sounds great
FYI I can run concurrent apps all using the same com port (navizon, memory map, TomTom and GPS Gate) without a problem.
Thanks tajw. btw done some digging and wm5/6 use an "intermediate driver" which accounts for your being able to access to gps from multiple apps.
Got my first app up and running. initialized the gps and displays rmc information
I thought of having a dot on the toolbar/task bar/program icon to signify whats happening, for example
black for no data
red for no fix
yellow for fix with < XX sats
green got a fix with > XX sats
ok,
Icon tray indicators:
black is no gps connection
red is gps data but no satelites
yellow will mean <= 3 satelites in view
green will mean >= 4 satelites in view
the distinction between yellow and green is that yellow indicates a 2D fix on your position, whilst green indicates a 3D fix. Not all gps hardware is capable of 3D fix inspite of having the sats to do it, but the more sats the better the fix so its good enough.
Should have a small tray app ready by end of next week.
Good news (for me anyway).
Application works nicely, minimising to the task tray and updates the icon depending on the gps signal data.
I have to polish off a few bits. When thats finished I'll post the .exe up here for others to test. Its tiny (38k) but I'll try and get it smaller.
You know, its cute! As you go in a building it goes red (no signal). As you go out a building it goes green! in the city it flickers green and yellow, even red sometimes. On my XDA it also appears to keep the GPS device active even when device is in sleep mode, so finding the fix again takes even less time than the first time (1-2 seconds rather than 20). also the battery isn't drained noticably.
Definitely looking forward to having a try with this programme, it's sounding good. Especially as I have moved to a town I don't know and GPS is becoming my new best friend.
GPS Spot
OK.
I think I've added the .zip file containing my little gps application.
Its build to work on my Xda Orbit. Would like to know if it works on anyone else orbit or any other device.
Install: just unzip and run from a directory.
Instructions:
The app will minimise to the tray when you press ok or top-right X.
Tray icon changes colour dependingo n the gps status
Red mean no satellite data
Yellow means between 1 and 3 satellites (2D fix)
Green means 4 or more satellites (3D fix)
Exit the program using the exit menu or kill the process.
You can also download it from my webserver:
gps.kicks-ass.net/gps_buddy/GPSSpot.asp
Have fun.
Sean
seanpu1 said:
OK.
I think I've added the .zip file containing my little gps application.
Its build to work on my Xda Orbit. Would like to know if it works on anyone else orbit or any other device.
Install: just unzip and run from a directory.
Instructions:
The app will minimise to the tray when you press ok or top-right X.
Tray icon changes colour dependingo n the gps status
Red mean no satellite data
Yellow means between 1 and 3 satellites (2D fix)
Green means 4 or more satellites (3D fix)
Exit the program using the exit menu or kill the process.
You can also download it from my webserver:
gps.kicks-ass.net/gps_buddy/GPSSpot.asp
Have fun.
Sean
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I'm testing it on a Glofiish X800, seems to work well.
I've notice that the GPS remain active when the X800 is in stand by, so I have to close or leave it open, based on my need.
This is good for me, 'cause some times I want to have the GPS on and the screen off to preserv battery life
Seems to be working fine on my Orbit. Although this is the worst week for testing it as I've only been sticking to the parts of town I know for once.
I know this is an old thread, probably no support anymore but the apps worked on my Topaz. It would be nice if the spots can be changed to a satelite icons instead
Or, in my case, cannot get a fix at all in most places.
The only place I can get a fix is an ideal spot near my office, in an elevated garden (on top of a shopping arcade). With nothing taller than me in a 10m area, and nearest buildings only two or three stories high, I can view 16 satellites and immediately get a fix on 8 of them. In all other places, no matter how long I wait, will see 16 satellites with 0 fix.
With more testing I found out to get a good signal strength in normal situations, I have to do either of these:
1. Enable flight-mode (i.e. turn off all other wireless communications).
2. Slide out keyboard.
Doing both will give me a fix within 5 seconds in all out-door or near-window locations. Just enabling flight-mode results in less than 20 seconds. Sliding out keyboard has a lesser effect, but usually will get a fix within 2 minutes.
I used HTC GPS Tool and NaviComputer in the tests.
With HTC GPS Tool:
- Flight-mode OFF and keyboard in, in the ideal spot I get about 50% signal strength for the best satellite.
- Flight-mode ON, signal strength goes up to 80%. Sliding out keyboard has no observable effect with flight-mode ON.
- Flight-mode OFF and keyboard out, I get about 60% for the best satellite.
So it seems the true reason is the GPS antenna in TP2 is poorly located, getting interference from phone antenna and the machine itself.
If you own a TP2, could you test it and tell me the results? (should observe stronger signals even if you don't have a problem)
If most people get same results as me, I'll send a report to HTC. I absolutely love QWERTY keyboard on my TP2, and my next model will definitely have one. I want HTC to learn about this problem (or acknowledge it) so future QWERTY models won't have the same defect.
Thank you in advance for your time to perform the tests.
good test, strange result
Well I never have gps issue with my tp2 so I don't understand your problem
It also depends a lot on which radio you use. Some radio's give you a faster fix and some don't.
drewcam888 said:
Well I never have gps issue with my tp2 so I don't understand your problem
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As I said in the first post, I observed improved signal strength with either flight mode on or keyboard out.
Even if you have no GPS issues, you may still get better signal strength if you perform the test. You can view signal strength with HTC GPS Tool. That's all I ask of the community - to see if TP2 has a design defect that weakens GPS signal reception.
Lennyz1988 said:
It also depends a lot on which radio you use. Some radio's give you a faster fix and some don't.
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I'm using this Radio from HTC - version is 3.46.25.30. The HTC Diamond 2 I mentioned in the first post has an even older radio version, yet receives signals better than my TP2 does, until I enable flight mode or have keyboard out.
im using the latest radio and i get a fix in a few seconds. it took ages on other radios. its very deja vu with the touch pro. the gps sucks up until a certain version of the radio.
I logged the NMEA data with HTC GPS Tool, and without flight mode and keyboard out, most NMEA sentences contain blank fields. GPGSV reports 16 satellites, but GPGSA will report status 1 (no fix available). Also GPRMC failed to return time.
If I slide keyboard open, I could see more data fields - GPRMC returning time for instance. I'm pretty sure sliding out keyboard or enabling flight mode have no effect on how the radio driver interprets GPS signal received.
The Jack of Clubs said:
im using the latest radio and i get a fix in a few seconds. it took ages on other radios. its very deja vu with the touch pro. the gps sucks up until a certain version of the radio.
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Could you tell me your version, is it official? Where did you get it (I assume here in XDA? I've seen plenty of custom radio ROMs)?
Evilnut said:
I logged the NMEA data with HTC GPS Tool, and without flight mode and keyboard out, most NMEA sentences contain blank fields. GPGSV reports 16 satellites, but GPGSA will report status 1 (no fix available). Also GPRMC failed to return time.
If I slide keyboard open, I could see more data fields - GPRMC returning time for instance. I'm pretty sure sliding out keyboard or enabling flight mode have no effect on how the radio driver interprets GPS signal received.
Could you tell me your version, is it official? Where did you get it (I assume here in XDA? I've seen plenty of custom radio ROMs)?
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You can get the official radio's here. (There are no custom radio's) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549939
Just try some radio's for yourself. There is no best radio, because it depends on which place you are etc. So what works best for me is not necessarily the best for you
ps you need to have hardspl installed.
you will not be able to connect to all those sats no matter what equipment you have. in total "There are 30 GPS satellites" so I AM GUESSING here. that there are around 15 on each side of the earth. and if you divide it for the top of the earth and the bottom that leaves 7.5 sats so if its showing 16 there must be one extra uneven one in range. so that makes 8 connectible to. im pretty sure that you cant connect to a sat thats on the other side of the earth. or on the bottom.
but thats just my research and my thoughts. i could be wrong. but i dont think i am.
so in theory you should only be able to connect at 8 sats in any one time. OR it could just be that out of the number of sats your connected to. if any other were added it would give you a wrong position
to lock on satellite with the htc gps tool takes about 1 minute with data communications on . in airplane mode it takes about 5 seconds. this is consistent for me.
htc tp2
tmobile
wm 6.1
I've tested several Gps apps both on Winmo and Xdandroid.
Something is sure: apps make the performances
On Android, Google Navigation is 5 time slower than Navigon (same place same conditions of course)
On Winmo Waze is 10 time slower than Tomtom and lost the grid even with good conditions.
In the UK GPS works fine from my car, inside not so good. It's better in open not urban areas.
littlebigtux said:
I've tested several Gps apps both on Winmo and Xdandroid.
Something is sure: apps make the performances
On Android, Google Navigation is 5 time slower than Navigon (same place same conditions of course)
On Winmo Waze is 10 time slower than Tomtom and lost the grid even with good conditions.
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I will at times have both my TP2, 6.5, iGo8 right next to my Asus R600 (standalone GPS) and the Asus will fix a satellite within a few seconds, while the TP2 usually takes a good 2 or 3 minutes.
I always attributed this to the type of receiver and antenna, but that's just speculation on my part.
FoneWatcher said:
I will at times have both my TP2, 6.5, iGo8 right next to my Asus R600 (standalone GPS) and the Asus will fix a satellite within a few seconds, while the TP2 usually takes a good 2 or 3 minutes.
I always attributed this to the type of receiver and antenna, but that's just speculation on my part.
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With QuickGPS data, my TP2 gets a lock within seconds, even indoors.
You MUST keep this data up-to-date, lest lock times suffer.
Also, thread necro... closed.
hi guys.
okay, I´m currently running arrrghhh's froyo-bundle on my "T-Mobile Mda Vario IV (HTC Raphael 300)".
as it seems, nobody else uses or even heared of that HTC Touch Pro clone ^^
first at all, I installed the bundle with the startup.txt of the RAPH100. installation was fine, everything was working (eccept for the known bugs).
but there was one point which confused me; have a look at that page:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id=12&c=all_htc_raphael_variants
have a closer look at all the buttons and then notice the swapped buttons on the t-mobile clone (RAPH300). -.-
so everytime I hit the "back" button, the phone turns black/locks. when I press the "home"-button I get a list of all my calls.
also when touching the upper button, the lower button lights up and so on..
is there a chance to switch the buttons? I already wrote PNs with 'arrrghhh' and he said it seems that I´m the only guy which uses the phone
don´t get me wrong, I will not complain. I can live with the swapped buttons. ^^ but if there is a chance to fix that, would be great
(I think) You will have to find your answer within the rootfs/you will have to edit it some how. In the meantime you could change the end button behavior to either set it under spare parts; if you are using xdandroid as i could not find it in the neopeek variants.
no you are not the only , i have that phone too, don't worry about the buttons because its all right, software doesn't make changes on these, buttons will work fine as they worked before on WM. But can you explain me please how did you installed Android on this?? cause i tried different bundles raph100 500 800, and no one works. Haret starts for a while and then it stops saying something about the memory card is busy! actually i formated it before!! can you send me a link with the bundle that you used please ? thank you
I also have a Raphael 300 running (T-Mobile MDA Vario IV), but from T-Mobile NL, here I have the current FRX05 complete bundle running from arrgh on top of the forumthreads right now.
This still has some issues, but is the currently most stable version I have yet tested.But the Home Button is somehow not in the function it should be, but that a minor issue for me.
Hello,
I got a RAPH120, it's the german O2 XDA Diamond Pro.
It has the same button layout as the german MDA Vario 4, and i don't think, that there is any difference in those phones besides the branding.
I use in startup.txt for keyboard layout "german_raph" and everything is working fine with the FRX05 complete build.
Tristard said:
so everytime I hit the "back" button, the phone turns black/locks. when I press the "home"-button I get a list of all my calls.
also when touching the upper button, the lower button lights up and so on..
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Yesterday I had the same experience. I restartet the phone, and since then I got no further problems.
vonPfirsing said:
Yesterday I had the same experience. I restartet the phone, and since then I got no further problems.
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restart doesn´t help. but maybe you can post the content of your startup.txt in this thread? because on my device the sleepmode leads to some lockups, no matter which mode I choose...
the only thing i changed from the RAPH100 Startup.txt is to put for keyboard:
Code:
physkeyboard=german_raph
I don't have the txt right here, if you need it, I will upload it, when I'm home.
vonPfirsing said:
the only thing i changed from the RAPH100 Startup.txt is to put for keyboard:
Code:
physkeyboard=german_raph
I don't have the txt right here, if you need it, I will upload it, when I'm home.
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Could you upload your startup.txt here, same problems here, also freezes time-to-time
here my startup.txt:
Code:
set ramsize 0x10000000
set ramaddr 0x10000000
set mtype 1910
set KERNEL zImage
set initrd initrd.gz
set cmdline "lcd.density=210 msmvkeyb_toggle=off gsensor_axis=-1,-2,3 board-htcraphael-navi.wake=0 pm.sleep_mode=1 physkeyboard=german_raph"
boot
sometimes i got random freezes too, but not to bad. I think it usually happens, when you let the phone go to sleep and you don't have the launcher on top.
I get it, when i let the phone sleep after an alarm rings e.g.
that´s the point, I like my alarm function in the morning before I go to work
but thanks for the startup.txt, german keyboard works perfekt! also with "Ö, Ä and Ü" ^^
this morning, it didn't freeze, i used it for like a minute after the alarm.
an yes, i like that keyboard too. It's like heaven compared to other phone inputs like milestone e.g..
this morning, everything worked fine. now I´m @work and the screen stays black, no chance. so reinsert battery and reboot again...
Has anybody a solution?
I face the same problems with MDa Vario IV...it's annoying to take the right buttons...
Right now all devs are focusing more on RHOD and some TOPA but none for RAPH. The idea is that the devs hope that RHOD development will be passed down to the RAPH. So, unless you have the know-how, one is only adding on to the same questions being repeated over and over but in different ways(makes for difficult searching).
For example, one of the first things one would have to figure out is how to collapse and wake the panel properly, as this is not being done for obvious reasons. The work around I have posted many times in other threads, forums, works for me and a few others but not for all.
Additionally, if you want to disable the end as power key, one would need to set this in spare parts
Tristard said:
this morning, everything worked fine. now I´m @work and the screen stays black, no chance. so reinsert battery and reboot again...
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currently I am testing my FRX05 Build on Stability. I think the display driver is not perfect, but it is not the cause of SoDs. Everytime when my phone had a SoD, it was very warm.
I experienced a similar situation, when i used GPS or charged the phone, or both.
I don't use the GPS or CTL Services on the phone, i use my old Kaiser as Navigation System, so i disabled both Options.
This is still in testing, but since i disabled those Options, my phone is still alive.
My normal way to work is 20 kilometres, and it was normal to have a SoD after this distance.
Yesterday i had an appointment 300 kilometres away. On the way to this appointment my phone had a SoD. I restartet Android, and disabled CTL. (I disabled GPS before). Since then, after more than 450 km of travelling, and 22 hours, the phone didn't had a SoD.
vonPfirsing said:
currently I am testing my FRX05 Build on Stability. I think the display driver is not perfect, but it is not the cause of SoDs. Everytime when my phone had a SoD, it was very warm.
I experienced a similar situation, when i used GPS or charged the phone, or both.
I don't use the GPS or CTL Services on the phone, i use my old Kaiser as Navigation System, so i disabled both Options.
This is still in testing, but since i disabled those Options, my phone is still alive.
My normal way to work is 20 kilometres, and it was normal to have a SoD after this distance.
Yesterday i had an appointment 300 kilometres away. On the way to this appointment my phone had a SoD. I restartet Android, and disabled CTL. (I disabled GPS before). Since then, after more than 450 km of travelling, and 22 hours, the phone didn't had a SoD.
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Not sure what CTL is, but the RIL is a HUGE cause of the SoD issue. Basically poor service, switching 2g/3g, cell sites, etc - cause the SoD condition. hyc is testing/building new RIL's, and they've been working great - they should be phone-agnostic, check it out!
CTL = Cell Tower Location
and yes, i thought RIL was causing SoDs too, but since i got an SoD in Airplane mode, with activated GPS, i was not sure about that.
I live in an area which has not the best 3G coverage, my phone is switching between G and 3G all the time, when i am at home.
Maybe RIL is working better with GSM than CDMA.
I will report any SoDs, when i got some, until now, my phone is running very smooth (without OC).
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CTL = Cell Tower Location
and yes, i thought RIL was causing SoDs too, but since i got an SoD in Airplane mode, with activated GPS, i was not sure about that.
I live in an area which has not the best 3G coverage, my phone is switching between G and 3G all the time, when i am at home.
Maybe RIL is working better with GSM than CDMA.
I will report any SoDs, when i got some, until now, my phone is running very smooth (without OC).
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Ah, what you call CTL, I call netloc .
Try out that new RIL, it should help both CDMA and GSM folk. It's just that a ton of code was missing for CDMA, we were really running in a fake GSM mode this entire time .
ok, i'll call it netloc from now on
I will try FRX06 with the new RIL.
When trying to use google maps & the built in turn by turn navigation it will load up then just say searching for gps & it never locks on & doesn't give me the voice guided turn by turn anymore. Google maps is up to date, gps is on & showing in the status bar, & I have tried in numerous locations with the same result. Am I alone on this one?
This has happened to me a few times with diff ROMs even. GPS test app shows that there are sufficient sats in view but the system never locks in. Next day it works fine.
Could be radio or kernal related. Try clearing data and cache. Probly wont help but can't hurt.
Do you open maps first then navigation? For some reason, when I open just navigation, it will do what you say and never lock on. Get to navigation by typing the address in to maps and then hitting driving navigation.
does the same in mine no matter what... i dunno what to do. running incredibly re engineered rom (newest one)
Driving around while trying to get a lock can cause it to take a little longer... Cloudy skies can do this also. Being inside a building can also interfere.
If you just have standalone GPS turned on, well that's your problem right there. The other two assist in getting a GPS lock alot quicker. The other two that I'm talking about is Google's and VZW's Location Services. Those two will also help get a better and more precise position aswell.
NOTE: Navigation. If this was a fresh/wipe install or you get stuck at "Checking Navigation Availability" do the following:
1) Turn on GPS
2) Start Maps
3) When prompted turn on WiFi (do not need to connect to any)
4) Map should then show approximate location
5) Get out of maps
6) Reboot
6) Start Navigation
I think this stuff is all on the right track. Here's my method (I get the same thing on a de-sensed stock rom):
I think Google Maps has the ability (not so great) to 'block' itself via using huge amounts of resources whereas the GPS doesn't use much resource and needs a helper app to get itself oriented the first time. Once oriented it is fine.
The one I use is a free market tool called "GPS Status" by EclipSim. It takes ~3 seconds to get a fix. So you start GPS (via power widget settings, whatever) and start GPS Status, wait a little while and you can see it locking onto satellites, and when it says first fix = ~3 seconds or ~30 seconds, (it depends on some unknown conditions), then close it and you can use navigation because it knows where it is.
Worth a shot. I've been doing that since the 'dawn of droids'.
I completely unrooted my phone and no matter what I do it will not get a GPS lock. I deleted Google maps and redownloaded it, uninstalled updates, tried every combination of settings in location, etc. and nothing.
I tried on my wife's stock incredible also and it immediately locks on to her location and starts the turn by turn navigation without any issues.
I think there was something wrong with the internal GPS chip/locator in the phone itself. I contacted Verizon and they are sending me out another replacement. Hopefully this one works properly.
Thanks for all the replies guy's but it looks like the phone is just defective.
read on another thread to wipe dalvik cache. So I tried it and it works. After initial wipe, GPS quickly acquired satellites and locked on.
So I have noticed when I am going on long trips that my GPS keeps bugging out on google maps. At first I thought it was maps being weird but now I'm starting to think its the GPS in the phone itself. I'll be driving down the highway and it will suddenly start pointing the other direction like i just made a turn. After about a tenth to a quarter of a mile it will correct itself. Over the course of a 200 mile trip it did this every few minutes. Sometimes it would think that I had pulled off the offramp when I was still cruising highway speeds. This and the camera issues are making me seriously consider selling this phone and getting something different...
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So I have noticed when I am going on long trips that my GPS keeps bugging out on google maps. At first I thought it was maps being weird but now I'm starting to think its the GPS in the phone itself. I'll be driving down the highway and it will suddenly start pointing the other direction like i just made a turn. After about a tenth to a quarter of a mile it will correct itself. Over the course of a 200 mile trip it did this every few minutes. Sometimes it would think that I had pulled off the offramp when I was still cruising highway speeds. This and the camera issues are making me seriously consider selling this phone and getting something different...
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In Google maps click your location (little blue dot), then in the bottom left hand side click calibrate compass. I was having the exact same issue until I did this.
I have tried doing the calibration and it still wont get better than "low" accuracy. Do you get better than low?
Mines medium right now. I remember when I was having issues it showed low too. I had to get out of my car and do the compass calibration again as for some reason it wouldn't move off of low every time I tried in my car.
Yeah it's terrible. Hoping someone else has some fixes
Same annoying gps issues here as well
Just happened today for the first time. No clouds or building, I was out in the open. Marker flipped 180° 3-4 times while I approached a stoplight... hard to know which way to turn.
Makes me think this might be related to the recent 10.0.6 update?
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Just happened today for the first time. No clouds or building, I was out in the open. Marker flipped 180° 3-4 times while I approached a stoplight... hard to know which way to turn.
Makes me think this might be related to the recent 10.0.6 update?
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Yes, that is exactly my lips around a hundred and eighty degrees numerous times. Takes forever for it to get oriented and it still sometimes gets off the kilter. I have noticed this since 10. 0.4
skelzer said:
Just happened today for the first time. No clouds or building, I was out in the open. Marker flipped 180° 3-4 times while I approached a stoplight... hard to know which way to turn.
Makes me think this might be related to the recent 10.0.6 update?
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The first time I noticed this issue was November the 8th when I was driving north for 3 hours. It was obviously happening where it would do that marker flipping around. This last sunday i went on another trip and was still noticing the issue often. It even caused me problems when I was walking around downtown Kansas City trying to find a venue. I had to ask somebody to point me in the right direction because the thing couldn't decide where i needed to go. I have reached out to the oneplus support and i'm waiting for further instructions from them. ... here... ill copy paste the email.
Thank you for contacting OnePlus Customer Support.
We apologize for the inconvenience that this has caused you. As we understand your concern. Please do not worry, we will surely help you with the best possible ways available.
Kindly help us with the below details:
1. Did the issue start post update?
2. Which is the current OS version on the device?
3. Does the issue occur Randomly or Always?
We request you to follow the below troubleshooting steps so that it could fix your issue:
1. Go to Settings- Location- Mode, select High accuracy, switch GPS on.
2. Check the environment, test the GPS in an open and empty place, because GPS used indoors can be blocked.
3. Use different apps to check whether there is the same problem.
4. Disable or Uninstall Security apps as it may limit the authority of the GPS in some apps.
We would also request you to do a network reset on the device so the issue can be resolved:
Network Reset:
Settings>> Backup and Reset>> Network setting Reset>>Reset setting
To assist you will be our pleasure, help us to help you. Request you to reply within the next 5 days as after that the ticket will be auto-closed".
Regards,
Phillip Smith
OnePlus Customer Support
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Problem with their instructions is i cant seem to find a way to turn the GPS mode to high accuracy as described. anybody know where it might be?
Thank you for connecting back to us.
I understand that you are not able to find the high accuracy settings on OnePlus 7T. Please do not worry, I request you to clear the device cache to fix this issue.
Please follow below steps to clear the cache:
Clear Cache -
- Power off your device.
- Press the power key + volume down for a few seconds.
- Select English.
- Tap on Wipe data and cache.
- Tap on Wipe Data and cache again.
- Tap on Yes to confirm data and cache wipe.
- Wait for the wipe process to complete.
- Reboot phone.
If you had any further questions please reply to us within the 5 days as after that the ticket will be auto-closed.
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Will this just completely wipe my phone if i follow the instructions? I seriously don't want to do that especially if it might not even fix anything.
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Will this just completely wipe my phone if i follow the instructions? I seriously don't want to do that especially if it might not even fix anything.
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No, it will not wipe the phone unless you select that option to wipe data or factory reset.
Well i will tell it to just wipe the cache... i am pretty positive whoever was handling the support just gave me instructions to wipe the whole phone though. lol. im not doing that.
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Wow... so frustrating... When I tried to do those functions the thing asked for a password. It wasn't my pin or my normal password i use. I have no idea what it was asking for but it gave a forgot password option to reset the phone. I reset the phone.
Also... its that easy to reset this phone?
Ok... Well after resetting my phone completely booted up, installed the latest patches and now when I check the accuracy in the maps it checks out high. Hopefully it stays that way.
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Ok... Well after resetting my phone completely booted up, installed the latest patches and now when I check the accuracy in the maps it checks out high. Hopefully it stays that way.
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Did you lose root?
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Well i will tell it to just wipe the cache... i am pretty positive whoever was handling the support just gave me instructions to wipe the whole phone though. lol. im not doing that.
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Wow... so frustrating... When I tried to do those functions the thing asked for a password. It wasn't my pin or my normal password i use. I have no idea what it was asking for but it gave a forgot password option to reset the phone. I reset the phone.
Also... its that easy to reset this phone?
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So, did you end up losing all your data?
I was never root in the first place. All my data is in the google cloud. I just had to go through the annoyance of setting up all my settings and icons since they didn't stick.
Well I know it's not 7T, but I had horrible GPS on the 6T and 7 Pro models both. Neither had ok accuracy, no matter what I did. It would lose GPS signal on street, in car, on foot. OnePlus is just super horrible at GPS, and I have no clue why. Like why it is not acknowledged and why they won't fix it.
My recommendation is to try a reboot and/or use Google Maps when this happens. I am a fan of Waze, I prefer it much over Maps (speed limits). But in Waze and any other 3rd party GPS app - it struggles to find me way more than Maps. That said, your GPS won't magically fix itself in Maps. It will be just a tiny teeny bit better. So like.. from super horrible bad it will go to christ this is a horrible gps. It may still help in a pinch.
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h8Aramex said:
Well I know it's not 7T, but I had horrible GPS on the 6T and 7 Pro models both. Neither had ok accuracy, no matter what I did. It would lose GPS signal on street, in car, on foot. OnePlus is just super horrible at GPS, and I have no clue why. Like why it is not acknowledged and why they won't fix it.
My recommendation is to try a reboot and/or use Google Maps when this happens. I am a fan of Waze, I prefer it much over Maps (speed limits). But in Waze and any other 3rd party GPS app - it struggles to find me way more than Maps. That said, your GPS won't magically fix itself in Maps. It will be just a tiny teeny bit better. So like.. from super horrible bad it will go to christ this is a horrible gps. It may still help in a pinch.
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..in setting, turn off :Google location accuracy - improve location accuracy , and wi-fi and bluetooth scanning. It works for me
(source: https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/gps-issue.1113746/page-2)
georgito said:
..in setting, turn off :Google location accuracy - improve location accuracy , and wi-fi and bluetooth scanning. It works for me
(source: https://forums.oneplus.com/threads/gps-issue.1113746/page-2)
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Interesting, thank you, I will try that.
I mean in my testing, I actually put different phones next to each other and tested GPS Signal strength.
The 7 Pro basically has a much worse signal than any other phone I tested. It's dark orange/red. Every other phone is at least yellow.
Just install "GPS Status" from Play Store, put your phone besides whatever other phone and prepare to get shocked.
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Hello,
Posting this in case others are still searching for a gps accuracy fix on the Oneplus 7t phone.
I may have found a workaround for the gps accuracy issues on the 7t. Fwiw, I'm using the Verizon version, on a HD1905, with the latest March update 10.0.0.HD65AA. I was experiencing all the same issues, and sadly the March update didn't seem to make any improvement. I've only had the phone for a few days, and was very disappointed w/ the gps performance. Tried everything including wiping the phone clean (I didn't realize the gps was wonky until I spent a couple days migrating everything over), and nothing worked -- it would immediately boot and have wildly wrong gps location, or the lock would seem to phase in an out. If it wasn't for the shelter in place order, I probably would have returned it.
After much trial and error, I found a workaround that seems to work. Even tested on our walk around today with Gaia and it correctly tracked our path.
1) put phone into airplane mode
2) reboot, and leave in airplane mode after reboot
3) run google maps, wait for lock, should be accurate
4) turn off airplane mode
5) test gps -- it should work better
If you reboot while normal networking is enabled, the gps would fail every time -- never accurate. But when networking is completely shutdown when the GPS radio is turned on, it seems to work as expected. Using the 'GPS test' app, my accuracy goes from 100m/ no lock, to approx. 3M 3d-lock, just sitting inside on my desk, and it maintains it. I'd say my old Pixel phone still has slightly better gps accuracy overall, but this is very usable now. And, I don't reboot very often -- phone is always charged, etc, so the workaround is doable for me. If I do need to reboot, just have to remember to use airplane mode first. Otherwise, seems to work as expected now.
Hope that helps someone.
beyondcrazy said:
Hello,
Posting this in case others are still searching for a gps accuracy fix on the Oneplus 7t phone.
I may have found a workaround for the gps accuracy issues on the 7t. Fwiw, I'm using the Verizon version, on a HD1905, with the latest March update 10.0.0.HD65AA. I was experiencing all the same issues, and sadly the March update didn't seem to make any improvement. I've only had the phone for a few days, and was very disappointed w/ the gps performance. Tried everything including wiping the phone clean (I didn't realize the gps was wonky until I spent a couple days migrating everything over), and nothing worked -- it would immediately boot and have wildly wrong gps location, or the lock would seem to phase in an out. If it wasn't for the shelter in place order, I probably would have returned it.
After much trial and error, I found a workaround that seems to work. Even tested on our walk around today with Gaia and it correctly tracked our path.
1) put phone into airplane mode
2) reboot, and leave in airplane mode after reboot
3) run google maps, wait for lock, should be accurate
4) turn off airplane mode
5) test gps -- it should work better
If you reboot while normal networking is enabled, the gps would fail every time -- never accurate. But when networking is completely shutdown when the GPS radio is turned on, it seems to work as expected. Using the 'GPS test' app, my accuracy goes from 100m/ no lock, to approx. 3M 3d-lock, just sitting inside on my desk, and it maintains it. I'd say my old Pixel phone still has slightly better gps accuracy overall, but this is very usable now. And, I don't reboot very often -- phone is always charged, etc, so the workaround is doable for me. If I do need to reboot, just have to remember to use airplane mode first. Otherwise, seems to work as expected now.
Hope that helps someone.
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thanks for posting this. Wow. That is a lot of headache to run through. I will try that as well. As I absolutely can't stand the GPS on this phone.
I have also found a workaround, although it involves toggling the location settings on and off. IE toggling the Wi-Fi and Bluetooth scanning on and off. Generally this works for me, although sometimes I have to reboot the phone