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Alternative way to mount Universal in your car

If you want to know where I got this idea, you should see this one first:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=314731#314731
I found this way of mounting my Wallaby last year, very effective and cheap and secure. So, last weekend, I tried to mount my Universal the same way. Its kind of hard, as my Universal metal case has different size of its belt clip mounting pin. So I have to put another belt clip to my car. I was finally moving the Cruise Control button to the right and use that middle spot that was occupied by the Cruise Control before to put on the Universal belt clip. And now the Universal can be mounted exactly in the middle. I do not have the audio connector yet, but I have located one that look exactly like my Wallaby one, but with 3.5mm plug.
Hope this will give some idea to some of you. Btw, I could mount my Universal with its silicon case on, but taking the padding inside the metal case out. So my metal case now primarily used as a mounting place in my car now.

Nice set up. Do you know yet of the PQTAA ( http://pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm ) will allow you to run audio from a call through your car speakers while still using the mic?

yes, this is exactly the one i'm getting. exactly the same as shown in my picture above, but with 3.5 mm plug. my old one, with 2.5 mm plug, works perfectly with my wallaby for few years now.

lie_ui said:
yes, this is exactly the one i'm getting. exactly the same as shown in my picture above, but with 3.5 mm plug. my old one, with 2.5 mm plug, works perfectly with my wallaby for few years now.
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I'm just still worried that the mic will not be enabled on the Universal... Please do let me know if you've tested this on a Universal.

I just received this email back from the manufacturer (Pc-Mobile) of that headset (it regards to it working with the Universal):
"If it has a 3.5mm audio jack then PTAMS/PQTAA COULD be compatible but there
is no guarantee as the every manufacturer may use different pin configurations."
I'm wondering if I should just roll the dice and place an order?

galt said:
I just received this email back from the manufacturer (Pc-Mobile) of that headset (it regards to it working with the Universal):
"If it has a 3.5mm audio jack then PTAMS/PQTAA COULD be compatible but there
is no guarantee as the every manufacturer may use different pin configurations."
I'm wondering if I should just roll the dice and place an order?
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I like to add that, unlike phones with 2.5mm audio jacks, which may have different pin configurations from different manufacturers, phones/pda with 3.5mm audio jacks are likely to use the same configuration.
It is because the jack is to be used for ALL headphones with 3.5mm plug so they must be the same.
The only variable is the ground/mic configuration.
All current PDAs with a 3.5mm audio jack with mic (Ipaq/Loox/Axim) use the same PTAMS/PQTAA ok.

I will be getting the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and will report the compatibility with the Universal once I have and test it out.

lie_ui said:
I will be getting the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and will report the compatibility with the Universal once I have and test it out.
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Thanks Lie_ui. I also have ordered this, hope it works out...

PQTAA works with Universal!
Good news. I received the PQTAA from PC-Mobile and it works with the Universal! I have tested all functions with my Universal:
- Stereo audio output is carried perfectly to the car stereo, no noise whatsoever.
- Microphone is working great, my voice can be heard clearly.
- The call receive button on the unit is working ok too to receive/pick up incoming call.
This is a great audio adapter (in addition to the fact its a handsfree unit). I find its a lot better way to connect the Universal to the car audio system rather than using other method like BT.
As most car mounting solutions do not include audio adapter to connect the Universal to the car audio system, the PQTAA is a perfect solution.
If you have a cassete player, you can combine it with the casette adapter. If you have an AUX input in your car stereo, thats the best.

Thanks for the info Lei. I also received mine today, haven't been able to really test it out, but it seems nice and it does function as required. Finally!

I finally got a chance to try mine out. The PQTAA works FANTASTICALLY with the Universal!
I tried it in my car, with air conditioning running full blast - the call came in, I was able to answer and hang up using the button on the adaptor. The call was perfectly clear over the car speakers, even with the volume turned up very high the caller reported zero echo from their own voice. They were able to hear me very well even with the mic unit dangling from the rear view mirror (not clipped to my shirt).
Excellent work by PC-Mobile! http://www.pc-mobile.net/pqtaa.htm

can someone tell me step by step ob how to connect universal to car audio ( cd player) what stuff do i need ?
cheers for any info
cudo

cudo said:
can someone tell me step by step ob how to connect universal to car audio ( cd player) what stuff do i need ?
cheers for any info
cudo
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If youve got a cassette player then buy one of those audio cassettes (Sony does a great one) that includes a cable to plug into the headphone socket on the universal.
Then just start your audio player on the universal and the sound is routed through to your car player.
Hope thats what you meant
Matt

thanks for the idea but I have got only cd player..and it has no aux input.is there any chance to onnect my uni to car audio?
cheers, cudo

Here are some options to connect Uni to a car stereo:
1. If the car stereo has AUX input, this is the best.
Get the adapter we discussed above (PQTAA) and connect it from your Uni then link it to your car AUX input. If you connect it directly from the Uni to your AUX input without that adapter, you only get audio routed to the car audio system, but you will not be able to accept phone calls as a normal audio plug will disable the Uni internal microphone.
2. No AUX input, but has casette player, get the casette adapter. I used this in the past and it worked well, too, until I decided to get an MP3 car stereo and then I made sure I got the one with AUX input.
You will also need to the PQTAA adapter.
3. No AUX input, no cassette, only CD....
You better have FM radio, as this is your last option.
Get a FM transmitter, plus the PQTAA adapter. You will feed the audio through the FM to your car audio system. I used this method before and I did not really like it as its kind of troublesome, you have to turn on the FM transmitter, then select the macthing frequency in your car radio, etc. And in my city, its very hard to find unoccupied frequency, thus I always got bad interference with other radio stations.
4. If you do not like connected/cabled mode, then go with Bluetooth.
You car audio must have an AUX input, though. Get a Bluetooth adapter like this one:
http://www.usglobalsat.com/item.asp?itemid=98
Then connect it to the car AUX input. This way, you do not need to plug something to your Uni and can keep it inside your case/purse.
5. Finally, none works for you, and you would like to upgrade your car audio system, then get the new one that has the Bluetooth. This is the cleanest and best solution I guess.
I was looking at this one:
http://www.parrot.biz/products/index.php?id=rhythmnblue
This one even can sync your Contacts and it has a dial pad in the car audio system. Very nice.
Hope this shines you up.

hi Guys,
Yeah been installing plenty of Parrot kits (LS3200, CK3100 and LS3400 with GPS) for the Exec and Mini s etc.
The parrot kits also have a microphone and audio mute, you may need an SOT audio lead depending on your cars configuration, but these kits are simply superb, call quality is fantastic, syncs all your contacts, and the LS range have colour screens with Voice recognition on all.
I can supply these and install them in the UK if your interested, other than that google or ask a local installer nearer to your location,
Ill be Fitting an Exec with a LS3200 soon, ill try and take some images and upload if anyone interested.....basically with the parrot kit, you get the best of both worlds, a nokia style car kit at last for phone based PDAs like the Xda Exec,
Hope that helps,
Bryson

Is there no way to control the mic from being turned off when you plug in normal headphones? This is what I posted in another thread I created:
Hello everyone.
I have a great pair of wired headphones that I love to use for watching movies and listening to mp3's... noise canceling, enhanced bass, extended range, the works... =)
The only problem though is that when I get an incoming call on gsm, there is no way to listen to the call from the headphones and still use the built-in mic of the universal. I'm forced to unplug the headphones and just use the jasjar's built-in speakers like a regular phone. This is especially horrible on the bus, train, etc.
Funny thing is if I use skype on the jasjar, I can hear out of my great headphones and still talk through the built-in mic... i recorded a few voice notes using the built-in mic while having the headphones plugged in the universal...
clearly, from this... the function is available?
but how do I do this using the gsm phone?
I suppose you may want os details and such... I'm using the newest official i-mate jasjar rom
Thanks in advance!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=278604

I can confirm that your findings are indeed true. Other than the phone, other applications that use the microphone (such as Voice Recorder) works regardless there is a normal headphone plugged in or not.
I guess you are right, there should be a way to tweak the OS to enable the microphone all times.
In a meanwhile, the adapter we discussed above would solve your problem too. (It has a microphone and a normal 3.5mm headphone socket).

BT Stereo Headset (earbud) with usb charging, any recommendations?

Hello, can anyone recommend a good Bluetooth Stereo headset. It must be an earbud type, allow change of headset and most importantly chargeable via usb cable. Any ideas?
Thanks
Darry.

Hi Darry,
I have the MotoROKR S9 that I am fairly happy with. Tried the HT820 but wasn't happy with the fit.
I can tell you that the sound will cut in and out if you keep your phone/source in your front pocket. It does explicitly say this in the literature, too. You'll have to get creative where you keep your phone.
It does operate the volume, track, pause, etc. very well, haven't tried the voicecall function yet.
I get a very full day out of a single charge (using the same miniUSB that my phone uses).
I spent a long time looking for a BT unit that would allow me to use my own earbuds but caved on this unit after having salesperson after salesperson look at me like I was talking Greek...
Good luck!

Thanks B73C, I'll take a look at this one.
Darry.

Internal speaker/mic with headphones?

Does anyone know of a way to use the internal speaker/mic on the TP2 with headphones attached?
I want to use the Brodit 3-in-1 car adapter, but this connects to the TP2 as if it's a set of headphones, so the internal speaker is muted (no sat nav directions). Is there some registry switch which can get the audio to come via the internal speaker as normal?

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Does anyone know of a way to use the internal speaker/mic on the TP2 with headphones attached?
I want to use the Brodit 3-in-1 car adapter, but this connects to the TP2 as if it's a set of headphones, so the internal speaker is muted (no sat nav directions). Is there some registry switch which can get the audio to come via the internal speaker as normal?
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elyl, did you get anywhere with this I've just bought one of these and holders and have got exactly the same issue, I want to either fix this or to return it and get a standard active holder.
Cheers

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4250590&highlight=Brodit#post4250590
Ah, looks like I'm guilty of double-posting, but I too have the same headache with the three-in-one Brodit holder.
I don't have an answer but I'll add my query to this thread in the hope that somebody who knows more about these things than me will note our plight

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4250590&highlight=Brodit#post4250590
Ah, looks like I'm guilty of double-posting, but I too have the same headache with the three-in-one Brodit holder.
I don't have an answer but I'll add my query to this thread in the hope that somebody who knows more about these things than me will note our plight
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Paulplex:- I was going to buy an adapter to output sound from the phone to my Aux input on my car stereo head unit, but that still doesn't give me the flexibility of being able to listen to the radio/CD as wouldn't then be able to here driving instructions from TomTom, so I've decided to send my Brodit holder back and get a passive one.
Sorry haven't got any answers for you though, am sure someone far wiser than I, will work out something to fix it.

I've done a little testing and I may have found myself a kind-of solution: although I've not figured out how to disable the automatic 'headphone' profile, you can still output sound if you connect a bluetooth headset to the phone after you've connected the ExtUSB connector from the Brodit car mount.
This means that although you can't use the Brodit car mount and the phones own speakers and microphone, you can still use it with a bluetooth headset - or car stereo that supports bluetooth.
Thats my solution - I'd like to know how to ensure sound goes through the speakers on the phone too, if you've got it connected via an ExtUSB three-in-one adapter, but this now works for me

Paulplex said:
I've done a little testing and I may have found myself a kind-of solution: although I've not figured out how to disable the automatic 'headphone' profile, you can still output sound if you connect a bluetooth headset to the phone after you've connected the ExtUSB connector from the Brodit car mount.
This means that although you can't use the Brodit car mount and the phones own speakers and microphone, you can still use it with a bluetooth headset - or car stereo that supports bluetooth.
Thats my solution - I'd like to know how to ensure sound goes through the speakers on the phone too, if you've got it connected via an ExtUSB three-in-one adapter, but this now works for me
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Paulplex, this is a good solution but not sure I wan't my TomTom bleating in my ear all the time, I've returned the 3in1 holder I bought, am probably going to go back to a passive one, I might try and pick up a 3in1 adapter, which some apparently don't switch off the internal speaker until a headset is plugged into them, that way I can output to my radio AUX from the 3.5mm headphone jack that these adapters have but will have to think about and do some more research. Good luck!
Cheers

Hi huys,
I too have this 3-in-1 holder. awesome! But indeed when not using the aux of my car and listening to the normal radio I want to have my TP2 docked and be able to listen to tomtom instructions directly from the phone...
Technically this should be possible, the ultimate proof is that when docked all sounds go through the aux out (line out) but the normal ring tone of the phone doesn't. So there is not something like a physical switch that doesn't allow you to plat any sounds directly from the TP2 when docked...
smart guys with solutions?

Bluetooth Audio 'hub'??

Hi
Does anyone know of such a thing as a Bluetooth audio hub?
I want to connect my GNex to my existing car stereo via bluetooth, I guess plugged in to the stereo via line input.
It needs to route both audio from media files (podcast) and calls. I assume that it would therefore need a mic for calls.
But in addition to this, I have my music collection on a separate mp3 player (also with bluetooth). So ideally, I'd like both devices to be able to connect, to listen to music from one device but have calls interrupt it from another.
Does such a thing even exist?
At the moment I have a line cable from my GNex to the stereo and a crappy bluetooth visor kit. I have to swap the line cable from my phone to my mp3 if I want to change what I'm listening to. It's far from ideal, and the GNex doesn't even fit in it's holder when I'm listening, thanks to the headphone socket being on the bottom of the device.

i have the jabra sp700, it works via BT to the jabra, then FM to stereo. the fm modulations gets a lot of static because i live in a high radio traffic area and the sound seems quieter than via aux input.
i made a custom aux input for my car and i have been using that lately, sound is much better, more clear.
you may get better results if you used something that goes from BT to wired output to plug into your aux input.

I am using this http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=525857. Works wonderful. But for 2 Devices, i think the new HTC Connect works for what you want.

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you may get better results i you used something that goes from BT to wired output to plug into your aux input.
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That's exactly what I'm looking for, though I guess it'd also need a mic built in.
I've used an FM transmitter before, but as you say the need to keep retuning is a problem. Plus, the need to plug it into the bottom of my GNex means it's not an option because of the cradle, which hides the output.
The Belkin thing looks good, but what I don't get is why an FM receiver costs about £20, a basic BT headset or visor set costs about £20 but something in between (i.e. a BT receiver with wired output) costs £80??

phatdub said:
I am using this http://www.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=525857. Works wonderful. But for 2 Devices, i think the new HTC Connect works for what you want.
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I've just ordered one of those Been using a cheap BT -> aux thing i got off ebay a while ago but it doesn't have a mic so decided to get the Belkin.

bmdixon said:
I've just ordered one of those Been using a cheap BT -> aux thing i got off ebay a while ago but it doesn't have a mic so decided to get the Belkin.
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It works good, sometimes you will find hitting the button twice to resume music does not work. NO biggie either toggle Bluetooth on\off or manually hit play on the GNex. For some reason though, it will re pair but not resume music, calls always work as normal over Bluetooth.

Does it work with two devices? I guess not? (i.e. music from one, calls from another?)

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Does it work with two devices? I guess not? (i.e. music from one, calls from another?)
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I swear i saw a device that does that. Ill keep looking. Nokia maybe....
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I swear i saw a device that does that. Ill keep looking. Nokia maybe....
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Nokia Stereo Bluetooth Headset BH-221
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1692169
In the thread they stated that the BH-214 supported dual devices, not sure if they got the the 221 to do the same.
From the thread ;
As for a dual connection, the 214 supports it, which I didn't realize until having my EVO be the primary media device on the 214/221 (unchecking the "Connect to Phone" option under EVO's BT Settings) & making the Nexus the primary phone device (unchecking the "Connect to Media" option). Since I don't have any cell service on the EVO, I can't verify that it'd connect to the phone anyway, but I know I can get my Nexus to connect to both phone/media if the EVO BT isn't on or near.

I'm pretty sure this one doesn't handle 2 devices at once, but if you're looking for something with a built in microphone and is very unobtrusive you might consider the BlueTrip Aux. I've been using it for about a month and it has worked well for me.

The Nokia ones look perfect! Is the mic part of the little clip unit? Guess so...

TomTom MKI9200 here. Two phones synced and supports A2DP. Works well with GNex 4.1. Supports USB mass storage, SD card and regular line in too.
No idea about standalone MP3 player via BT. Does anyone still use them?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

The product you are looking for is this :
Kensington Bluetooth LiquidAUX
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kensington-LiquidAUX-Bluetooth-For-Phone/dp/B0011UIX2K
or
Griffin BlueTrip
http://www.amazon.com/Griffin-Techn...1748219&sr=8-11&keywords=kensington+bluetooth
I have the Kensington one, works perfect. It adds bluetooth handsfree/streaming to any car that has a aux in. No need for batteries.

Suggestions for a BT enabled Car Deck

Alright, just got a new used car.
For my current phone (Captivate) and any future phones/tablets I buy (Nexus/7) I just wanted to know which decks that anyone out there has been using that works well for calls and playing music.. My BT Motorola T305 speakerphone is a bit spotty and would like to just integrate everything into the deck.
For reference, the devices will be plugged in while in the car, so power consumption is not an issue. Thanks all.

Bane99 said:
Alright, just got a new used car.
For my current phone (Captivate) and any future phones/tablets I buy (Nexus/7) I just wanted to know which decks that anyone out there has been using that works well for calls and playing music.. My BT Motorola T305 speakerphone is a bit spotty and would like to just integrate everything into the deck.
For reference, the devices will be plugged in while in the car, so power consumption is not an issue. Thanks all.
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I have the alpine 136bt and it works great with my phone.

Whoops sorry I haven't responded to this. I'll definitely look into it thanks.

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Bane99 said:
Alright, just got a new used car.
For my current phone (Captivate) and any future phones/tablets I buy (Nexus/7) I just wanted to know which decks that anyone out there has been using that works well for calls and playing music.. My BT Motorola T305 speakerphone is a bit spotty and would like to just integrate everything into the deck.
For reference, the devices will be plugged in while in the car, so power consumption is not an issue. Thanks all.
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Jabras are usually the best for cars..try them out..

Dension Car Dock(nice design, power usb and audio line or FM) or bluetooth kit for stock radio.

I have only used Kenwood and Alpine decks.
The Kenwood has better noise cancelling external mic for calls. Problem with Kenwoods was the bluetooth features weren't the same across decks, as price went up you got more bluetooth profiles(say like A2DP). i.e low end deck has bluetooth for calls only, higher end had you could call and stream music with car stereo as output speaker without having to hook in a cable.
The Alpine was more of the same, didn't like the external mic as much. For Apple products which you don't have it had integrated Pandora to control the app from the stereo. My next purchase may revolve around how it handles the phone address book.