SD(HC) Tweaks (oh, and wifi too) - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Do any tweaks need to be performed on the tp2 for SD xfer speed? I saw the tune-up cab posted on this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446366) and was just wondering if it would apply to our phones as well.
Also.. Whats the highest xfer you get over wifi (SMB).. One large(ish) file.. I can only get about 530KB (kilobytes, not bits)... Signal strength is excellent. Laptop is connected via dual-band wireless-n. The average 802.11g client gets about 3.0MBps on my network. The wifi signal strength on my phone doesn't seem to impact the transfer speed (greatly).. meaning.. there is no flux between 5 bars and 3 bars. Doesn't that indicate an internal bottleneck? What bus does this wifi card 'ride'? PCI or usb?
DOH.. should've made a separate thread.

530KB (kilobytes, not bits) equal 4240Kb (kilobits) which is close to 4Mbps.

Once you figure out your bits/bytes come back and edit your post.
If you're getting 3mbit on 802.11g then something is wrong with your wireless, period. For a duplex connection (ie: one radio does send/receive) you'll get about 24mbit max. I get 22-23mibt typically on my wireless laptop to my access point here at the house. I haven't bothered to test the Tilt 2's wifi however.

I don't think I mixed anything up.
G notebook clients get about 3MBps or 24Mbps on my network.. N client to gigabit wired server (router is 610N, gigabit eth ports) gets 11MBps (I think)..
My touch pro2 comes around and gets 4 megabits or ~.5 megabytes/sec.. How does that happen? Probably for the same reason my zune 8gb (flash) gets those speeds. So what is that reason?
Wheres the bottleneck? Wifi antenna? Comm bus between wifi chip and phone storage? What do our wireless cards look like anyways? Perhaps there is one antenna. That wouldn't surprise me..
Regarding the SD isssue: I selected to mount the phone as a usb device instead of active sync.. I got about 3 MBps write. I think I need to get a Class 6 card.

Enabling wifi to stay on during standby and then putting it into standby actually sped things up... Anything remotely proc intensive tends to smack the wifi transfer around a bit. Its not really an issue of SD card access. But then again, the SD card access could be impacted by processor usage and in turn slow down the wifi.
There are a handful of settings in the wifi reg key BCMSDDHD1 that start with SD... Why? I need to fire up the dd-wrt router and see if this actually connecting at 54g.
btw: speed up was from ~430KBps to 600KBps.

I also have this problem with slow wifi connection and wonder if there iare any bottleneck.
I understand what you mean but people probably will get confused when you write about 5 megabytes/sec speed for tp2, dont you mean 5 megabits/sec?

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Wlan G Hack?

Is this a viable option for the Exec
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=38898&highlight=
Basically a simple reg hack has enabled wireless g mode on the wizard
Ive just added the dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8 as a dword into tiacxwln1
rebooting now, lets see what happens
My breath is baited... any news Carnivor?
RE
I've added dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8 as a dword into tiacxwln1 too to my QTEK9000 but see no improvement in speed test at www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest
:roll:
FOSA: How did you run the test? Did you put it on your own webpage (hosted on a PC on your wireless network)? If not, you will only be testing the speed of your ADSL link and not the speed between your Exec and your router.
RE
I just ran if off from the QTEK9000 PIE connected wirelessly to my DLINK router
Is this correct?
Fosa, what result did you get?
Melty, thats what I thought too, but bandwidthplace seemingly allows you to specify your connection type...
Anyway, a test from my laptop, via lan connection to a 4MB internet connection yielded a return of 1.2mbps - from my M5000, via our wireless network (which admittedly is only 11b), the throughput was 605 kbps. I think the only valid test is to move a file via your wireless network to another machine on your lan - I guess there must be an app to measure this type of network activity?
RE
509.2 Kbps. Pretty slow.
Without that entry I got about 564 Kbps
So, no improvement
Theres two entries for the g hack
'HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TNETWLN1\PARMS: dot11SupportedRateMask=1
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\COMM\TNETWLN1\PARMS: dot11SupportedRateMaskG=8
All values are decimal'
But does it connect to your router on 'g' mode only?
I'm at work at the mo cant check, thanks
well, after the change im still connecting to AP's around town, but i cant tell if at b or g, im assuming b, as ive never seen documentation that the universal does g, the wizard has g as me missus got one 2 days ago, so i assume this reg change was to enable g.
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Quote
"But does it connect to your router on 'g' mode only? "
My router is a a/b/g DLINK router.
Is there any way to check the connection type 'b' or 'g' from my PPC?
Thanks
I just tested it from my laptop again, specifying ethernet as the connection type, and got a result of 583 kilobits per second! So, wildly varying results, which I don't really think can be classed as a definitive test.
RE
May be you can try this test site
http://www.numion.com/YourSpeed3/Select.php?Country=sg&Language=Chinese;English&Top100=0
It works on my notebook but can't on my PPC PIE. PIE will pop-up an error message saying the page exceeds more than 10 frames
May be you can get it done :roll:
Don't think this is gonna work. The hardware on the universal is differant than the vario.
The HTC service manual says:
WiFi 802.11b (manufacture option)
? IEEE 802.11b compliant
but the way you can test it is:
set your wlan router to G only (default value is Mixed mode). this way your phone will only connect if it is really G compatible. if it will connect than it works.
testing it with a internet speedtest doesn't say anything about speeds between router and phone.
Rockafello said:
testing it with a internet speedtest doesn't say anything about speeds between router and phone.
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well said! i'm glad it's not just me who thinks WAN speed tests are not going to confirm whether it is working in 'g' mode ... and even if it is working in 'g' mode, the 802.11g standard allows for the rate to be adapted depending on signal strength, so you could be running at 12Mbps (or lower!), rather than the full 54Mbps.
has anyone timed a large SMB file copy from a local LAN PC server to the SD card with 'b' and then with 'g'???
Ok i am being a bit thick here, i found a 10MB file on my laptop then on Exec i used resco file manager and maped the drive, and over standard 11b i copy and pasted the file into my storage ( not storange card incase that slowed it down) it did the 10MB file in 48 seconds The laptop was ""docked"" and on a 100mbs wired conection.
I then set about to do the registery changes to enable 11g but my device )using resco reg edit) is a little different, am i trying to edit some keys or add new ones.
one i get that bit sorted i will delete the downloded file and fix my router on ""g"" only and transfer again
Than ks
John
Rockafello and ericblong: I was relieved to see that you also agree that the internet speed tests are not the answer here (as I posted earlier in this thread). I was beginning to wonder if I'd gone mad... :?:shock::lol:
I saw a link to this in another thread: IP Dashboard Network Monitor 1.9
Maybe it will provide the answer? (I'm at work so I can't test it right now).
I have aplied that reg hack to my exec, and I still can't connect to G only
WLAN networks... Only to B...
What should I do to enable G mode support on my Universal?
Big thx!
I'm 99% sure this hack doesnt enable 'G', it just allows connections to be made to 'G only' access points, although still at the lower 'B' speeds. However this doesnt seem to work on the uni

Wireless LAN cap?

Hi,
I just did a speedtest on dslreports.com with my D810 connected to internet via Wifi. My cable connection has a speed cad at 6M, however, my avareage speed on my D810 was only 1500kbs while my desktop has over 5000kbs. So it leads me to a question that if there is a cap limit the internet speed on the Wifi connection?
Thanks.
like that benchmarks show that our pda's cant keep up with the fastest
SD cards one can get because the sd interface in the devices are not fast enough
it's only nautral to asume the same goes for the bus the wifi chip is connected to
of cause if benchmarks for pure wifi file transfer are much faster
and other browsers give better results it could be ie which is poorly written
if all browsers give that result it could be the tcp protocol which is the culpit
By default - your Trinity won't connect at 802.11g at the battery saving configuration. Try the performance setting instead that would otherwise give you more speed but less battery power.
ww2250-I have already tried the performance setting but it still gave me the same result..

[Q] Restricting wi-fi to connect at 802.11g ONLY

Is it possible ? I have been disappointed with the browsing speed on my TP2 and thought it might be something to do with MTU settings or something like this. However, last weekend I decided to change my router mode from 801.11b/g to 801.11g only. WOW, suddenly my browsing was perfect (the same speed as browsing with my laptop)
So I wondered if it's possible to set something on the TP2 to allow it to connect at g Only - for when using in areas which have a Free Hotspot (like Cafe's or Hotels), since I cannot control the speed that they allow me to connect at.
It's very possible that my TP2 was connecting originally at g speed but that rates were in some way competing against each other.
C
WM will normally default your connection to the better of the two choices. If the option is between b or g, the connection would default to g. There are some things that could be affecting your connection, however. This is most likely a problem with your router broadcasting both signals at once. If you have no use for a b channel, then have it simply focus on sending the g channel.
This is exactly what I have done - shut down the b channel. However, I am trying to ensure that I connect with g ONLY whenever I find a Hotspot in public places.
C
Maybe the problem with browsing speed isn't your phone!
Better check if you are in an area with lots of wireless networks... Try to set your router to use a channel which is 3 channels distance from other WiFi networks.
For example if you have networks on channels 1,3,5,11 you should set your router to use channel 8.
Also try to set "802.11G Protection" to ON, if your router has it!
Any solution? (I know it's old, but I also want to restrict to 801.11g on my android tablet only and I have found nothing on the internet).
Jazzist2014 said:
Any solution? (I know it's old, but I also want to restrict to 801.11g on my android tablet only and I have found nothing on the internet).
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The issue is not with the phone in this case, but the access point. When running in mixed mode, data transfer speeds on wifi access points slow down unless they have multiple dedicated radios. If you want the faster wifi speed, just don't use 802.11b. It's antiquated anyway, especially considering we now have not only g, but n and ac standards on the 802.11 rfc.
CaptJosh said:
The issue is not with the phone in this case, but the access point. When running in mixed mode, data transfer speeds on wifi access points slow down unless they have multiple dedicated radios. If you want the faster wifi speed, just don't use 802.11b. It's antiquated anyway, especially considering we now have not only g, but n and ac standards on the 802.11 rfc.
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i've noticed, however, my phone's (samsumg g-s5) battery drains much quicker when connected to 802.11n network compared to 802.11g. there is no real need for more than 54 Mb/s on my phone, but on my laptop there is. therefore, a way to restrict the phone to use only 802.11g in a mixed-network environment would be beneficial.
scarlion said:
i've noticed, however, my phone's (samsumg g-s5) battery drains much quicker when connected to 802.11n network compared to 802.11g. there is no real need for more than 54 Mb/s on my phone, but on my laptop there is. therefore, a way to restrict the phone to use only 802.11g in a mixed-network environment would be beneficial.
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As far as I know, you can only restrict the mode of the access point, not the phone. I have yet to see any wireless client device, in fact, that lets me restrict which radio mode it uses, save perhaps some homebrew stuff running embedded linux.
EDIT: Pardon the grave-dig. I had been off the site for a while and only just noticed the above reply to my posting from last year after having last night posted a question of my own.

[Q] Wifi Association and Reassociation Priorities and Thresholds

I've been having a few relatively minor (but hopefully solvable) problems with WiFi roaming and association with my Epic 4G Touch. My current baseband version is EL13.
At home, I have two access points to improve coverage. One of them is a relatively new 802.11n/g/b D-Link router. This is the one connected to my modem and set to router mode. The other is an older 802.11g/b Linksys router set to access point only mode connected to the other router via ethernet. In order to allow easy roaming between the two, I have both APs set to the same SSID and security settings. I have them set on channels 1 and 11 respectively to avoid interference (most of my neighbors use the intermediate channels).
With laptops, roaming works well. Not perfectly, possibly because of the lack of 802.11n on the second AP, but they automatically reassociate to the router with a stronger signal at a reasonable difference in strength. There's rarely a time when the link speed falls below 30 mbps.
With my E4GT, roaming is more hit-and-miss. For some reason, once it's connected to an AP, it doesn't like to reassociate until it loses its current signal completely. This can be a problem when I reach the outer reaches of either AP's signal zones. With the 802.11n AP in particular, the E4GT tends to stay connected even when the link speed (as stated by the router) is 1 mbps. The actual performance is, of course, even worse. Latency is at least 500 ms, and often times, data isn't transmitted at all. I might as well be on 1xRTT. This happens when I'm in the same room as the other AP.
Another annoying quirk is that the ET4G seems to prioritize the 802.11n AP over the 802.11g one when it makes its initial association. When I turn WiFi on in the room with the older router, half the time, my phone decides to connect to the very weak 802.11n signal instead of the full bar signal from the AP in the room.
So, my questions:
Has anyone else noticed this problem?
Is there a way to increase the threshold signal strength before the phone tries to reassociate? This would hopefully make roaming more functional.
Is there a way to de-prioritize 802.11n signals, or alternatively, disable 802.11n connectivity altogether? I don't want to disable it in my router because the extra bandwidth comes in handy for my PCs, but 130 mbps is unnecessary for a phone.
Wow you must have a huge house lol.... Maybe you could try adjusting the transmit power strength on one or both of the routers so that the signal will drop off completely and switch to the other access point. Hope I could help.

Slow wifi file transfer

Hi,
I do all my downloading via LTE as I'm on an unlimited data plan and my connection speed is considerably higher than my fixed line internet but when I'm transferring the files to my pc via wifi, it seems abnormally slow. My files download at around 34MB/s (megabytes per second) but when I transfer them to my PC via wifi using cx file explorer (have also tried ES pro) I'm getting around 15MB/s. I'm using 5ghz AC wifi and the link speed in my phones wifi settings is 866mbps. Transferring the same files from my laptop to my PC via wifi is much faster at above 60MB/s.
Does anyone know what's going on here or have any ideas to figure it out?
Also, when transferring files via usb to the nvme drive in my laptop I'm getting 100MB/s, does this sound right? Was kinda expecting more from ufs 3.0.
(My usb cable is 3.1 gen2 10gbps)
Is something wrong here or am I just expecting too much from my phone? Any input will be very much appreciated.
MrMoo232 said:
Hi,
I do all my downloading via LTE as I'm on an unlimited data plan and my connection speed is considerably higher than my fixed line internet but when I'm transferring the files to my pc via wifi, it seems abnormally slow. My files download at around 34MB/s (megabytes per second) but when I transfer them to my PC via wifi using cx file explorer (have also tried ES pro) I'm getting around 15MB/s. I'm using 5ghz AC wifi and the link speed in my phones wifi settings is 866mbps. Transferring the same files from my laptop to my PC via wifi is much faster at above 60MB/s.
Does anyone know what's going on here or have any ideas to figure it out?
Also, when transferring files via usb to the nvme drive in my laptop I'm getting 100MB/s, does this sound right? Was kinda expecting more from ufs 3.0.
(My usb cable is 3.1 gen2 10gbps)
Is something wrong here or am I just expecting too much from my phone? Any input will be very much appreciated.
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Check to make sure that you aren't coming into any issues with wifi signal disruptions. Make sure your router is configured correctly.
Something's to try:
Choose a less congested wifi channel
Make sure you are using AES encryption
Select 40mhz or 80mhz channel bandwidth
Relocate the router to a different area
Restart the router
There is a lot of info on transfer speeds and etc, but suffice it to say a bunch of things come into play. If your running stock firmware then try getting a reliable class 10 microsd card for best read/write speeds. Keep in mind that microsd cards are rated for a max speed of up to X number (in mb/s). Sequential read/write, random read/write speeds will vary in speed.
MicroSD Cards write/read in megabytes per second, which is not the same as megabits per second of your wifi router (or USB 3.1 gigabits per second) speed. Internal storage is faster then microsd, I don't have the specs Infront of me right this second so I can't tell you by how much.
Also your wifi router does not give dedicated speeds per device, it has a set amount of speed that is shared amongst connected devices. More wifi devices connected transmitting/recieving data will cause speeds to decrease. Also the Wifi speed your seeing on the phone doesn't include any overhead from the router (or overheard from SMB/CIFS, etc), so your true speed may vary.
Try the router adjustments and see if that helps. If not then you may just have to live with what your getting speed wise for wifi transfers to/from PC.
* I will do some transfer tests with my wifi today and tomorrow to add more info on transfer speeds/setup. I am expecting a new wifi 6 capable router tomorrow, so I will post results of both of my routers after I get that set up...
**Some test results -
Background:
PC configuration - Windows 10 PC with 65 gigs of ram, Sata HDD, Gigabit Lan connection
Phone Configuration - Android 10, MicroSD Samsung Class 10 EVO microSD Memory Card 32GB
SMB file transfer
First set of read/write is done with my current router. I am connected via 802.11 5Ghz A/N/AC with a manually selected 157 channel using AES encryption. I made 3 attempts with the same file and the stats provided are average speed measurements. Like yourself my phone was indicating the WiFi speed was 866 mbps during the transfer.
Transfer of 695mb file - From PC to MicroSD Storage
21.35 MB/s
23.58 MB/s
22.68 MB/s
Transfer of 695mb file - From MicroSD Storage to PC
20.31 MB/s
21.93 MB/s
20.90 MB/s
Transfer of 695mb file - From PC to Internal Storage
22.80 MB/s
22.91 MB/s
24.93 MB/s
Transfer of 695mb file - From Internal Storage to PC
23.28 MB/s
23.61 MB/s
23.32 MB/s
scottusa2008 said:
Check to make sure that you aren't coming into any issues with wifi signal disruptions. Make sure your router is configured correctly.
Something's to try:
Choose a less congested wifi channel
Make sure you are using AES encryption
Select 40mhz or 80mhz channel bandwidth
Relocate the router to a different area
Restart the router
There is a lot of info on transfer speeds and etc, but suffice it to say a bunch of things come into play. If your running stock firmware then try getting a reliable class 10 microsd card for best read/write speeds. Keep in mind that microsd cards are rated for a max speed of up to X number (in mb/s). Sequential read/write, random read/write speeds will vary in speed.
MicroSD Cards write/read in megabytes per second, which is not the same as megabits per second of your wifi router (or USB 3.1 gigabits per second) speed. Internal storage is faster then microsd, I don't have the specs Infront of me right this second so I can't tell you by how much.
Also your wifi router does not give dedicated speeds per device, it has a set amount of speed that is shared amongst connected devices. More wifi devices connected transmitting/recieving data will cause speeds to decrease. Also the Wifi speed your seeing on the phone doesn't include any overhead from the router (or overheard from SMB/CIFS, etc), so your true speed may vary.
Try the router adjustments and see if that helps. If not then you may just have to live with what your getting speed wise for wifi transfers to/from PC.
* I will do some transfer tests with my wifi today and tomorrow to add more info on transfer speeds/setup. I am expecting a new wifi 6 capable router tomorrow, so I will post results of both of my routers after I get that set up...
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Thanks for the reply,
My 5ghz wifi is running on 80mhz bandwidth, I've used inssider to check for other networks and there are none in my area running at 5ghz. My router is located in a space behind the sofa so I'm basically sat on top of it.
I recently installed the ASUSwrt-merlin firmware on my router (as well as the required full factory reset after the installation) but I've been experiencing the slow transfer speeds before and after installing that firmware. I have also tried putting my phone at the top of the QOS list in the router settings as well as turning QOS off completely.
I'm not using an SD card, all my files are being transferred from internal storage. I understand the difference between megabytes per second (MB/s) and megabits per second (mbps), USB 3.1 rev 2 is 10gbps, therefore has a throughput of 1250MB/s, obviously, you won't get that exact speed in the real world but you can expect a throughput of around 1GB/s providing both devices can handle that speed as well as the cable. I have done a storage speed test on my phone and the sequential read is over 1500MB/s and the write is over 500MB/s, well over what I'm actually getting over USB. I can deal with the USB speeds I'm getting, although it's slower than I expected (about 100MB/s), its fast enough for now.
If you could post the speeds you're getting, that would be great, If you're getting similar speeds then I know I'm just expecting too much from a mobile device (maybe Samsungs wifi module just isn't as powerful as a laptop one?). If not then I know I've got a bottleneck somewhere that needs fixing.
Thanks again for your input
EDIT: I have just read your edited post. Thanks for the thorough speed test, I guess I'm just expecting too much from my phone in comparison to my laptop.
MrMoo232 said:
Hi,
I do all my downloading via LTE as I'm on an unlimited data plan and my connection speed is considerably higher than my fixed line internet but when I'm transferring the files to my pc via wifi, it seems abnormally slow. My files download at around 34MB/s (megabytes per second) but when I transfer them to my PC via wifi using cx file explorer (have also tried ES pro) I'm getting around 15MB/s. I'm using 5ghz AC wifi and the link speed in my phones wifi settings is 866mbps. Transferring the same files from my laptop to my PC via wifi is much faster at above 60MB/s.
Does anyone know what's going on here or have any ideas to figure it out?
Also, when transferring files via usb to the nvme drive in my laptop I'm getting 100MB/s, does this sound right? Was kinda expecting more from ufs 3.0.
(My usb cable is 3.1 gen2 10gbps)
Is something wrong here or am I just expecting too much from my phone? Any input will be very much appreciated.
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I use wifi direct instead of es pro, es pro transfers much slower for me for some weird reason, Maybe it's something to do with the es or cx apps, have you tried wifi direct? I'll try cx file explorer a little later and post my speeds as well.
Edit: ok, cx file explorer took 20 minutes and 8 seconds to transfer a 918 MB file, a direct usb c 3.1 connection to my same laptop took 25 seconds for the same 918 MB file and wifi direct took about 45 seconds for the same 918 MB file. Sorry I dont have the speeds but it looks like it's something to do with the apps. Also have you tried using a cloud storage for transfers like dropbox or onedrive? It's may be faster.
Edit Edit: I also read that the usb cable that comes with the note 10+ only uses usb 2.0 speeds which is what I used.
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