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What apps do you use on today screen????

Looking to make my hermes more "user friendly".... What have you found that makes it easier/faster to use?
I mainly use mine at work, need to take notes, phone numbers, drawings, pictures... I send pictures via email, mms..
Thanks!

I love my htc home and spb phone suite and mobile shell will post tomorrow or if you bothered looking in the pdacorner thread I have some shots there. posting from my hermes now using opera 8.5
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dont forget HomeScreen++
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_batterystatus_xda_neo_wm5_im_cs.htm

I'm using Homescreen ++ and SPB Pocket Plus.

My favorite app that eliminates everything from my today screen is the Slide to Unlock app, S2U2. That does everything I need my today screen to do, but I also have SPB mobile suite and SPB weather which are kind of space fillers so my screen doesnt look empty.

Pocket Ion Clock
Today Agenda
the stock email
and owner info
plus wktask to pull up shortcuts to notepad, file explorer, etc...

here is mine!
UL
BS
TodayAgenda
rlToday

I'm using stock standard WM6.1 today screen. I don't see anything wrong with it.

according to my needs
Battery Gauge
Samsung Time
SPB Mobile Shell
SPB Phone Suite
RescoExplorer Today plugin
Pocket Islam with Hijri (Islamic) calendar
Sun 'n' Moon
SPB Diary

farres said:
Battery Gauge
Samsung Time
SPB Mobile Shell
SPB Phone Suite
RescoExplorer Today plugin
Pocket Islam with Hijri (Islamic) calendar
Sun 'n' Moon
SPB Diary
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you running a TNT ROM?

-Pocket Digital Clock
-Standard WM wireless
-Standard WM Messaging
-Calender +
-Standard WM device lock
Boreing but works

zocster said:
you running a TNT ROM?
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as far as I'm aware of, TNT did not realease a ROM with the 1% increment battery feature, and to be honest I haven't tried his ROM... what made you think it's TNT's? this is actually CRC's v13 ROM

farres said:
Battery Gauge
Samsung Time
SPB Mobile Shell
SPB Phone Suite
RescoExplorer Today plugin
Pocket Islam with Hijri (Islamic) calendar
Sun 'n' Moon
SPB Diary
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Damn lot of info bro!

farres said:
as far as I'm aware of, TNT did not realease a ROM with the 1% increment battery feature, and to be honest I haven't tried his ROM... what made you think it's TNT's? this is actually CRC's v13 ROM
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oh true, but yeah there are coloured line on top of the screen like rainbow .. didn't have that when I was running his, only when I installed TNT

ai6908 said:
Damn lot of info bro!
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yes it's quite enough, you gotta see Galaxy's Today screen
zocster said:
oh true, but yeah there are coloured line on top of the screen like rainbow .. didn't have that when I was running his, only when I installed TNT
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this is a battery meter called Battery Gauge... I like this app

farres said:
yes it's quite enough, you gotta see Galaxy's Today screen
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LOL...here it is (batterystatus & weatherpanel) so that they get the picture!

- HTC Home with Diamond skin
- TodayAgenda 1.1

I am a bit surprised to see that I am the first one to say Manila 2D.
But before M2D I was using:
Pocket Digital Clock
Pocket Islam
cLaunch
Stock calendar plugin

I like to keep it simple and useful - QuickMenu for battery/RAM, HTC Home, TodayAgenda, SPB Phone Suite, and on softkeys iContact + HTC Action Screen.

zocster said:
I love my htc home and spb phone suite and mobile shell will post tomorrow or if you bothered looking in the pdacorner thread I have some shots there. posting from my hermes now using opera 8.5
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Nice, how do you get the yellow 3G and the colored battery icon??

List the programs you use with your Vogue NOT included in NFS V15 ROM

just curious what people use, might be some programs i never thought of or knew about id like to get ahold of
i personally install these programs everytime..
Beejive IM
Bing WM6
Iris Browser
Pocketwit
UCWEB
HTC Addicts CleanRAM
Speedbooster
Task Facade
i tried messing with the finger menus is it? i didnt quite understand what the use was, i dunno i didnt mess with it to long
as far as browsers.. my default will ALWAYS will UCWEB.. **** is fast, fits everything to the screen, i love it.. but for other things that browser might not be able to do, i use Iris.. cause UCWEB doesn't work with rapidshare, it won't countdown the time, Iris will, among other things

-NFSFAN's Opera 9.5
-Skyfire 1.0(a must have browser for flash support and secure websites)
-Kinoma Play
-Google Navigator
-hTorch
-Bing
-Facebook
-Resco Keyboard
-Nitrogen
-Pandora
-SPB Mobile Shell 3.0(I moved on to PointUI)
-PointUI w/ Point Sense theme
-TaskMgr

Opera, Skyfire, Nitrogen, FingerKeyboard, Seven, Palringo

Is Pandora not available with Bell?

patdaman said:
Is Pandora not available with Bell?
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I'm not sure of your question. Pandora can be used on any carrier. There is a fix for making Pandora work in NFSFAN's FAQ thread.

slow88lx said:
I'm not sure of your question. Pandora can be used on any carrier. There is a fix for making Pandora work in NFSFAN's FAQ thread.
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thanks, i will check it out.

So after installing I get a error "Pandora is not able to be used outside of the US." ?

slow88lx said:
-NFSFAN's Opera 9.5
-Skyfire 1.0(a must have browser for flash support and secure websites)
-Kinoma Play
-Google Navigator
-hTorch
-Bing
-Facebook
-Resco Keyboard
-Nitrogen
-Pandora
-SPB Mobile Shell 3.0(I moved on to PointUI)
-PointUI w/ Point Sense theme
-TaskMgr
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I shoulda asked for what is what as well..
I've never heard of the Resco Keyboard, Nitrogen, SPB Mobile Shell 3.0, hTorch, Kinoma Play, or PointUI haha basically half your list, any chance you could fill me in some more?

Nevermnd I looked up most, the mobile shell 3.0 though looked promising what exactly is it/does it do and its not a free program is it?
The Resco keyboard too, but it only has a 7 day trial i think it said?

patdaman said:
So after installing I get a error "Pandora is not able to be used outside of the US." ?
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Are you indeed not in the US?

slow88lx said:
Are you indeed not in the US?
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indeed I'm not. I guess I'm out of luck. I figured XDA would have found a way to crack this issue

PointUI and SPB Mobile Shell 3 are "today" programs....they would replace Titanium or Manilla. Both have free trials, the full verison of SPB MS3 can be found in hacked form for free.....PointUI is mostly functional in free form, with only a few nice features in the full version.
PointUI w/ Point Sense theme
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j18yo said:
Nevermnd I looked up most, the mobile shell 3.0 though looked promising what exactly is it/does it do and its not a free program is it?
The Resco keyboard too, but it only has a 7 day trial i think it said?
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If you're not above stealing software, then ppcwarez and ppcwarez2 are your friends. That's how I got the Resco keyboard.

and these today programs that replace manilla, id just get them and install it will it automatically replace manilla or i have to go about uninstalling?
its probably somethin i can check but im on my phone internet on my way to work, i liked what i seen in that pic though, just a change from the norm would be good

Point UI hero Sense Theme
Skyfire
Mobile Media Center
Skype
Vtap
Remote Touch
Slide to Shutdown
Pandora
CleanRam
Google Navigator
WhiteAlien Taskbar
Music ID
TCPMP
Sprite Backup
My Mobiler
Csdevctrl
qwertymemory and dcibttery
Sportypal

slow88lx said:
If you're not above stealing software, then ppcwarez and ppcwarez2 are your friends. That's how I got the Resco keyboard.
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You don't want to talk about this here. These posts could get you banned if a moderator sees it.

Here's what I use:
CHeroClock (Titanium plugin that gives Sense "Hero" clock with weather and next appointments)
Titanium notifications (Missed calls, voicemail, sms and e-mails, all the the same titanium pannel)
Facebook and FIM
NFSFAN's Opera Mobile
TomTom Navigator 7 (GPS software)
My Mobiler
Games: Kevtris (Tetris), Pocketman (PacMan), HDWobble (boobs wobbling game)

socrate007 said:
Here's what I use:
CHeroClock (Titanium plugin that gives Sense "Hero" clock with weather and next appointments)
Titanium notifications (Missed calls, voicemail, sms and e-mails, all the the same titanium pannel)
Facebook and FIM
NFSFAN's Opera Mobile
TomTom Navigator 7 (GPS software)
My Mobiler
Games: Kevtris (Tetris), Pocketman (PacMan), HDWobble (boobs wobbling game)
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How do you use HDWobble on a Vogue? I though it needed the g-sensor to work.

it works with screen taps and drags too

incubus26jc said:
it works with screen taps and drags too
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Ah! I see!

[REQ] Naked, barebones WM 6.5.3 ROM.

To any active Hermes ROM cookers. Could you please do a naked, barebones, WM 6.5.3 ROM and just concentrate on having as much free RAM as possible.
No front end like Sense, SPB, PointUI. Doesn't even need Office. All these things can be added. Just the basic functions like SMS, Bluetooth, need to be stable.
If there are any cookers still left out there this is what the remaining users REALLY need and want.
You will have the undying gratitude of people from disparate parts of this world.

I need something like that too. Most recent OS with working camera, bluetooth and infrared. No need for programs like office or messenger. If I need them I will install them later.

Yeah, that would be great!

ok will do..

I agree with all this...And i don't even need wm 6.5.3, maybe a good 6.1 and 6.5 Hybrid
would do the work, as long as it has 28MB or more ram...All of the other things are
installable so we can have what we want...And yes there should be .net CF

I don't have a wm6.1 kitchen yet

It's ok man...You do your work just fine I just made suggestion because it is noticeable
that with wm 6.1 Hermes works better and all applications work (like pim organizer and
morphgear emulator) and i think with wm 6.1 there could be a way to get more ram...
Only thing with wm 6.1 is that it's not so finger friendly so if some features from 6.5 roms
(like finger scroll and larger menus) could be implemented in 6.1 it would be the best!This is
just my opinion...

Well, I'm trying to cook half-naked 6.5 (NOT 6.5.3, the large menu are useless on 2.8") with the basic things directly in the ROM (the really usefull things will probably install itself via PreConfig and will be uninstallable/upgradeable) - I want as much RAM as possible and stability. This "model" worked for me perfectly on 6.1
But I can't cook much in the week (school). And few things in the kitchen I use (SJK) is are broken ... maybe I'll try to fix it myself, we'll see.
But I can share with rest of you, when I complete it. But I'll be cooking it for myself, so it will be under No Whining "licence".

psycho84 said:
It's ok man...You do your work just fine I just made suggestion because it is noticeable
that with wm 6.1 Hermes works better and all applications work (like pim organizer and
morphgear emulator) and i think with wm 6.1 there could be a way to get more ram...
Only thing with wm 6.1 is that it's not so finger friendly so if some features from 6.5 roms
(like finger scroll and larger menus) could be implemented in 6.1 it would be the best!This is
just my opinion...
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I see where you're coming from. Though in some sense we have a naked 6.1 ROM with CRC's, though this still gives me problems.
It is true that some things I like to use just don't work with 6.5.x but there has always been a severe lack of vanilla 6.5 ROMS and before all the Hermes ROM cookers go to that great ROM cookers place in the sky, it would be nice to have a one.

Have you tried "Darkvisions final" on 1st boot it provides around 28MB RAM, I use SPB Mobile Shell and still have 22-23MB free and still has many extra's installed

glenest said:
Have you tried "Darkvisions final" on 1st boot it provides around 28MB RAM, I use SPB Mobile Shell and still have 22-23MB free and still has many extra's installed
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I used Dark Visions 5.0 final when it first came out and tried it again later but always ran into terminal problems i.e with the bluetooth.
I was hoping he would release a Dark Visions 6.0 that he mentioned he had finished but it looks like he's also gone to the Great Rom Cookers resting place.
I am just about to try out the one kindly done by MrDSL to see if this meets the criteria...

glenest said:
Have you tried "Darkvisions final" on 1st boot it provides around 28MB RAM, I use SPB Mobile Shell and still have 22-23MB free and still has many extra's installed
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I haven't tried it but i am having a thought on doing that because crc's 13.5
rom is giving me a bit trouble last few days...It is one of the best rom there is
blazing fast and pretty good on ram, but i had a few phone freeze (not whole
phone but some of the graphics frozen and i could still receive calls and so).
But i wonder if things like pim organizer (very useful tool) and Morphgear still
works on Darkvisions v5.0?

MrDSL said:
ok will do..
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thank you in advance, MrDSL.

I have a barebones 2g 3g, and the SE unleash lite has 28MB cause it dont has anything you can search lil more in... XDAroms.com

+ Que PPC said:
I have a barebones 2g 3g, and the SE unleash lite has 28MB cause it dont has anything you can search lil more in... XDAroms.com
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It's not clearly labeled on XDARoms.com because I can not see any of the ROM you mentioned.

MrDSL said:
I don't have a wm6.1 kitchen yet
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dump crc's 13.5 with the ervius kitchen and you have an awesome 6.1 base! I dummped both his naked and full, then used the naked as my base, and added the things I wanted.

psycho84 said:
It's ok man...You do your work just fine I just made suggestion because it is noticeable
that with wm 6.1 Hermes works better and all applications work (like pim organizer and
morphgear emulator) and i think with wm 6.1 there could be a way to get more ram...
Only thing with wm 6.1 is that it's not so finger friendly so if some features from 6.5 roms
(like finger scroll and larger menus) could be implemented in 6.1 it would be the best!This is
just my opinion...
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I underline your posting and your wish. I've the same idea. DarkVision goes in that direction.
And for more finger friendlyness, exists a great "old" tool FTouchflo - since the days of the great GERMAN ROMs of Schap... :
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Thanks to all the cookers, the last weeks is more "action" here, many new Roms to play with it.
Maybe, one day, I cook my own german mixed ROM... if I've the time, to give my Hermes to my mother, who isn't an english-speaker...

You can use V29 23060 lite http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=461680

Thanks keraunos, I'll try this, maybe again, I've forgotten how this ROM was, and if I can open Opera without problems or memory shortings, like in the big Manila 2D Versions. I don't like Versions, where the Manila every time starts again, when I switch from another opened program.
Better perfomance in 6.5 oder 6.1+6.5 mixed Roms has the SPB Mobileshell GUI, or others.
But I like trial and error in testing roms. I think it's a good idea, to write down, which I've tested, and wich was fine for me, cause my brain memory is obviously full...

For me is the best rom until other beter will be release.

[Panels]Sense/TouchFlo3D, Titanium, SPB Mobile Shell, Androkkid, iFonz 2, Infinity

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What will these do?
These panels will convert various home interfaces into panel.
What are benefits of using these?
There are 2 major benefits:
Easy changing between interfaces
Better performance and stability of device because you have only one interface loaded at a time.
These panels need appropriate software to run. For example you need to have SPB mobile shell installed to use SPB panel. Here are the links to find it:
TouchFLO3D: DOWNLOAD
Sense: Only cooked in ROMs. Find ROM that have it.
Titanium: Preinstalled in WM 6.5
SPB Mobile Shell: INFO & BUY / TRIAL
Androkkid: DOWNLOAD
iFonz 2: DOWNLOAD
Infinity: DOWNLOAD
How to install it?
Scroll to bottom of this post to attachments
Download these files
Copy them to device
Open files with file manager and install
Do i need to install all of them?
No, you don't have to install all of them (for example don't install spb panel if you don't use spb mobile shell).
To get best results, disable auto startup of every "paneled" interface:
Before changing these, is recommended switch to today panel.
Sense/TouchFlo3D: Go to today settings and uncheck "TouchFLO3D" and/or "Sense"
Titanium: Go to today settings and uncheck "Windows Default"
SPB Mobile Shell: Browse to \Windows\Startup with file explorer and delete SpbMobileShell file
Androkkid:Go to Androkkid settings and uncheck "Start with Windows"
iFonz 2:Go to iFonz 2 settings and uncheck "Start with Windows"
What is NewSensePanel?
This is new experimental panel that uses pure panel manager without any extra apps to launch sense. We could even say that this is actual sense panel and not panel launcher.
NewSensePanel is runnning directly in panel manager, which makes switching very smooth and fast. While normal SensePanel closes panel manager and uses standard today screen,which will minimalize problems, but switching will be little slower. Decide for yourself
You need .NET Compact Framework to run these panels
Post request in this thread, if you wish panel for another interface.
If you are using infinity panel, exit infinity before switching to another panel. Closing mechanism is currently broken.

thank u for your share,
Can it work on my X1 ROM R7A-016? are u test

I dont know, test it by yourself

matejdro said:
After hours of figuring damn thing out, here are first results.
I made two panels that allows you to quick switch between today screen, panels, touchflo3d/sense and titanium. Im also working on SPB launcher panel, so you could quickly switch between those too.
I recommend you turn titanium and touchflo3d/sense off in today settings before trying this.
Whole stuff is still in BETA because i didnt have a chance to do much testing.
Please test and report results.
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Great work...thanks for sharing.Let me test it.

Added SPB panel.

im surprized theres not not more responses on this....I thought alot of people were looking for it...this might make me reinstall panelmanager!

Maybe its not working or is working too bad that people dont bother posting.
Anyway, NewSensePanel added.

Thank you so much, I think this is great!
Edit: Just installed everything and it works perfectly! Oh and when you install the NewSensePanel you can have Titanium on your today screen and Sense on a seperate panel, so you don't need to install the separate titanium panel launcher anymore. I am very happy with this

Just tried... is just me or its not automatic run current panel at startup?

Panel manager runs today panel at startup. I remember seing app to change that, but i dont remember where.

matejdro said:
Panel manager runs today panel at startup. I remember seing app to change that, but i dont remember where.
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haha lol... ok mate

@ matejdro
Thank you for sharing! Great work!
Do anyone know of a Sense cab? I don't like it so much, nor the rom's with it, but with this solution, I wouldn't mind having it installed.

Hey guys!
It looks pretty good! thx for matejdro!!
Some problems will fix by using SensePanel (not New) but the New one is more developed))
it works with all versions of Mobile Shell ever made and the WindowsTitaniumInterface is as functional as it is staying on the Today Screen)
+1 for the author

vmiguel said:
@ matejdro
Thank you for sharing! Great work!
Do anyone know of a Sense cab? I don't like it so much, nor the rom's with it, but with this solution, I wouldn't mind having it installed.
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Hey, u can search it on the forum topics (it has a name TouchHDfull.cab or something that sounds like this) it is a panel for xperia
mb the original Sense.cab from the ROM with it is already posted, I dont know

Reanrean said:
Hey guys!
It looks pretty good! thx for matejdro!!
Some problems will fix by using SensePanel (not New) but the New one is more developed))
it works with all versions of Mobile Shell ever made and the WindowsTitaniumInterface is as functional as it is staying on the Today Screen)
+1 for the author
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SensePanel (not New) is not getting less developed. Maybe i didnt hit the name, AltSensePanel would be better i think. These panels are both having advantages and disadvantages. SensePanel closes down panel manager and launches sense its in native enviroment (today screen) while in NewSensePanel panelmanager manages sense, which means its run on panel instead of today screen.
ACtually if one is getting less developed, it will be NewSensePanel, because there is not much to do. Sense is launched and managed directly from panel manager without any external apps.

matejdro said:
SensePanel (not New) is not getting less developed. Maybe i didnt hit the name, AltSensePanel would be better i think. These panels are both having advantages and disadvantages. SensePanel closes down panel manager and launches sense its in native enviroment (today screen) while in NewSensePanel panelmanager manages sense, which means its run on panel instead of today screen.
ACtually if one is getting less developed, it will be NewSensePanel, because there is not much to do. Sense is launched and managed directly from panel manager without any external apps.
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maybe. but IMHO is better to use New one. but tastes r different

how can i updatet my microsoft frameware?
sry for my english its juft school english

Install and download this:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3C6B-42F1-9FD9-0041345B3385&displaylang=en

how can i updatet my microsoft frameware?
sry for my english its just school english

ok thanks
it woks =)

Slow Start Up ?

Anyone have any tips to increase the start up time after a reset/boot up? It takes longer than usual to load HTC Touch Flo and get to the home screen with the clock etc. Just before the Touch Flo home screen loads, it hangs a bit and lags at the background that you usually see when you go to the Start Menu, and the silver HTC lettering is at the center of the screen. After the Touch Flo home screen loads and I see the clock etc. it still takes a while to start up because the task menu at the top right corner (to close programs) is still not present. Then it eventually does load
Any tips would be appreciated!

I would like to know this too
please

I can tell you the answer, but I don't think you are going to like it. Turn off TouchFlo. IMO it is a very poor interface to begin with. And it eats up way too many resources for an always-on app. Which then leads to the obvious, spb Mobile Shell. This is a highly functional, fairly customizable interface with a definite sex appeal built in. But it is a memory hog like no other app. And the more you customize it the slower your startup will be. I ran it for about 4months and could not stand the slow startup and operational lags. Now I run spb Pocket Plus. And my device has no lags whatsoever and the startup time is easily half of Mobile Shell or Touchflo. My device is now highly customizable and as fast as can be...much more so than with either of the two aforementioned apps. Sure, it is not as sexy as Mobile Shell, but take these points into consideration.
Allows for 6 finger-friendly tabs to run across the top of the home screen. More tabs can be added but they get smaller and harder to click after the 6th tab. This gives much quicker access to the different tabs than the flick-scrolling left and right in mobile shell.
If you add a nice background image and change the Pocket Plus icon settings to "large" and to not "show label", you will get a good-looking interface. See below.
While displaying large icons you can get 36 icons/apps per tab. I choose to spread mine out so it is not so tight and still get 16 per tab, plenty enough for me.
You actually get some customization that you cannot get in Mobile Shell. For example, see my second pic below which shows my internet tab. I can have my different browsers as large icons at the top, and then have my shortcuts to actual web sites as smaller icons with descriptive text. This allows me to launch 20+ of my favorite sites from the home screen.
It gives you built in access to certain system settings as well as many plugins (but the plugins will slow down the interface, so I do not use any). See my third picture that shows my "Settings" tab.
You can add any program, file or shortcut that resides in your "My Documents" folder or "Start Menu" folder. Pocket Plus along with Rhodium Keyboard Controller allows me to get to anything on my device withing 2 or 3 seconds.
Also comes with an Alt-Tab program switch feature, a Safe mode as well as several other add-ins that may be worth your while.
You can spend half your life using all of the Mobile Shell tweaks to get your device to do exactly what you like or you can spend 30 minutes setting up Pocket Plus and getting twice the responsiveness as well. Now, understand that Mobile Shell users are as rabid as iPhone users. So they are going to follow up my post saying that Mobile Shell has no lag on their device and is just as fast operationally. It just isn't so. Run a process tool like MemMaid or dotFred while Touchflo is running, then Mobile Shell, then Pocket Plus. No comparison. Do yourself a favor and try Pocket Plus. If you own a TP2 device then you are really too old to be seduced by form over function, aren't you? Pocket Plus gives you a happy medium for both.
One last point. No matter what home screen or launcher app you use, you will always get hammered in the reboot time, responsiveness and battery life departments if you are using the gimmicky widgets that are contiuously pushing info and searching for updates. I quickly got over the novelty of Weather, Stock, Sports apps and the like after I realized how poorly they were making my device perform. With Pocket Plus and 3G I am only a click away and a 5 second wait from getting all of that same info without it being always on and dragging my system to a crawl. Be smart and your device will once again perform as good as any other on the market.
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ChasDun:
This might sound crazy, but I recently did a hard reset to get rid of a lot of junk and it worked fine. After I loaded TomTom Navigator 7 I started seeing this problem. Someone on the Tmobile forums said that another reason is that TouchFlo loads all the music & photos you have when it is loading at start up. They said to un check the music tab and photos tab on HTC touch flo. Do you think TomTom might have to do with it?

ChasDun said:
You can spend half your life using all of the Mobile Shell tweaks to get your device to do exactly what you like or you can spend 30 minutes setting up Pocket Plus and getting twice the responsiveness as well. Now, understand that Mobile Shell users are as rabid as iPhone users. So they are going to follow up my post saying that Mobile Shell has no lag on their device and is just as fast operationally. It just isn't so. Run a process tool like MemMaid or dotFred while Touchflo is running, then Mobile Shell, then Pocket Plus. No comparison. Do yourself a favor and try Pocket Plus. If you own a TP2 device then you are really too old to be seduced by form over function, aren't you? Pocket Plus gives you a happy medium for both.
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Actually, I have both MS and Plus. I use some of the components of Plus, but MS is my primary interface. I just prefer it. However you are correct about less memory; Plus is using only the stock WM 6 interface. The biggest issue I have with mine is how much CPU time the built in WM apps (messaging, word, excel) use, and how long it takes for the CPU to return off 100% once these apps are used. And don't get me started on how those apps leak memory...