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Hi all
first of all i would like to commend everybody who makes xda-devs what it is!
i have one small feature request however, and i do hope it can be implemented
in the 'development and hacking' forum, it appears there is an awful lot of threads concerning development of customisation for our beloved handsets
and i realise this is still development and it is indeed in the correct forum, however, with the vast numbers of different threads going on, it is easy to lose a thread just from this morning 4/5 pages back!
as such, i call on the moderators/administrators of xda-devs to set aside a seperate section purely for development of 'eye candy' or 'customisation' which is of course general to all the handsets
i look forward to a reply on this! many many thanks
I'm surprised that there's no one interested in this great idea.
I was thinking about something similar, maybe add "skining" to the section title, or even "visual interfaces" (to host TouchFlo, and whatever is coming). Development and hacking section is just too poluted, it seems that people gone crazy after iPhone appearance...
Really hoping that this initiative will see daylight, or at least get any comment form admins.
duke_sti
Quite a good idea - however, you have to consider that every device itself has subforums that might cater to these needs.
I think it's not a bad idea though, as most customisations these days works across all devices, not just one model.
I'll suggest it to the mods.
V
I agree, meschle posted an annoucment on Dev and Hacking a while ago about what should be in there (ignored by most). If the customisations could be moderated to a new area, this would help I beleive.
My 2c's
Ta
Dave
To the Mods,
I know I am just a junior member so please don't rip me a new one if you don't like my suggestion.
I'm wondering if you think it might be a good idea to creat a sub-forum inside Development and Hacking for all of the Skins and Customizations such as Mobile Shell skins and mods for s2u2.
I know that a sticky was started by TheChampJT for skins but in my opinion taking a step further and creating a sub-forum and moving the sticky into it would be even better.
I know it's odd coming from a member with such a low post count, in fact this is my way of trying to contribute since all of the tech. stuff is so far over my head.
Thanks
My post count is pretty low too... but I for one agree. It seems like the Development forum has gotten a little bogged down in themes and skins - which are really good, don't get me wrong! I just think it might help the skinners concentrate on skinning and developers concentrate on developing if the two forums were seperate.
This has been discussed a few times before now:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395209
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400854
I'm sure there's a third thread I can't find as well
Thanks
Dave
Not only is development and hacking clogged up by numerous threads all just regarding themes and theme issues but so are all the sub forums. So why not have a specific section just for themes? I think that this would tidy up the entire site, for example tf3d themes are now spread across quite a few forums and there are loads of wallpaper threads in every forum, development and hacking is starting to fill up with titanium themes.
So my idea is to have a new section....Themes and UIs ....everything together, multi device.
What do you think?
Not sure if im blind or just missed it...but you didnt explain where you wanted it. Im thinking your talking about the dream forum b/c I am in there a lot, but I read it and said nah b/c there is a theme forum. You have to specify where if you want some assistance .
Thanks for the reply I actually meant an entire new forum devoted to themes and UIs for any device in the main section right here at the top.
Any Mods got an opinion?...bump....this has to be the quietest place on xda devs.
You might want to consider reposting in this thread.
I agree with the skins theme forum, well, maybe not completely. A sub forum should be more than enough, not a full section dedicated to skins.
Also, what exactly do you mean by UI? If you are talking about things like M2D, PointUI, IFonz, etc... those things really are part of Dev and Hacking (more D than H), but they should be there simply because they are being developed/ported/made by other site members who rely on the feedback, knowledge, and expertise of other developers to debug and complete their apps.
Just my two cents.
I agree completely. Would help the site and the user. Users would be able to find themes more easily.
egzthunder1 said:
I agree with the skins theme forum, well, maybe not completely. A sub forum should be more than enough, not a full section dedicated to skins.
Also, what exactly do you mean by UI? If you are talking about things like M2D, PointUI, IFonz, etc... those things really are part of Dev and Hacking (more D than H), but they should be there simply because they are being developed/ported/made by other site members who rely on the feedback, knowledge, and expertise of other developers to debug and complete their apps.
Just my two cents.
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Yes UI=User Interface, I know what you mean, developement does belong in D&H but it is overflowing with UI stuff at the moment, stuff like M2D would still get developed and supported, just somewhere else. I think it would be one of the busiest forums on the site and that a new forum would unburden Dev and Hacking leaving it free for all other development.
With a dedicated themes section it would be great to have a few things like a dedicated photoshop tips and questions thread and a place where people could share all their custom graphics and knowledge in one place.
Well, not a lot of votes, but there does seem to be a bit of a swing.
Please if you do view this thread you might as well vote, it does not take very long.
Vote added...nice thread.
+1. Perhaps a sub-forum of Dev & Hacking would be nice, instead of a seperate section itself.
I think it is a good idea
that will save time and keep out the interruption thread what take our attention if we are searching for themes and UIs only
Makes the site more arranged
you have my voice
Connect the Devs
Thanks to everyone who has voted so far.
Another point that occurred to me which I have not put too clearly to date, is that not only would all the themes be in one place, but so would all the theme developers! Which to me seems possibly like the biggest advantage of all, to help connect all the theme developers from across all the boards, now that would be good to do.
good idea...clearly people like this and it should be implemented into the website
now we should vote on where in the forums it should be.
New section or under dev/hacks or somethin?
vote added.. separate section would clear up Themes/Skin Developments frm Software Developments and make navigation easy!
Good idea !!! I'm for it.
Windows Phone 6.5
Windows Phone 6.5 themes are where it's at now; are you planning on heading that direction?
@ Black C5, yes definitely wm 6.5 themes are huge in development and hacking right now. If I had my way there would be a sub section of the Themes and UI's section dedicated to WM 6.5 themes with a big sticky near the top linking to all available widgets and add ons etc. I think that dev and hacking is the right place for widgets since they fall into the catagory of software development but themes don't, if it's mainly graphical it should be in the hypothetical themes and ui's section.
What next?
So how many votes are needed to make this happen? and how do I/we go about making it happen?
uniqueboy said:
So how many votes are needed to make this happen? and how do I/we go about making it happen?
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Well To put it bluntly, This isn't a democracy so there is no magic number of votes that will make this happen.
this may happen if and only if the Admins decide that they want to do so.
However that's not to say this is of no use, the admins like to give the people what they want. But don't think that they will automatically create this section just because you got x amount of votes.
When the time is right, and they decide, then it will happen.
seriously, this one forum is cluttered with hundreds of threads about ROMs, Recovery, Root, Guides, and other off-the-wall stuff. Can we get subforums made specifically for ROMs, Recoveries, Root (and only Root-related discussion), and Guides? this will organize the forum more efficiently, and we won't have to sift through hundreds of threads and thousands of posts to look for what we need. thanks for the good work so far!
bump, seriously, the Evo Development forum is a mess! we really need some subforums to help keep it organized.
do u mean like this? ~> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=709267
i feel creating a entire subforum will cause more harm then good. the wikis organize things a bit and are stickied to the top of every subforum in the EVO 4G section. these wikis can be maintained and updated by all users of the forum. also it makes it possible to organize the guides and roms by type and such. i do see ur point though and that is why i created the wikis in the first place. i thought about creating a new subforum for a while, but the truth is that it will end up cluttered just the same. at least with the wiki u can look on one page and see all the roms,recoveries, and guides that relate to our device, not having to sift through the most popular to fine roms that arent. at the same time u can see that some roms are development roms and therefor still worthy of the development section. i just know from working on the Sprint HeroC that the wikis were life savers. specially months into owning the device, with old roms no longer being supported and buried by new roms. i hope this helps resolve ur issues. please PM me if u have more to add. thanx for the suggestions as ideas are always welcomed.
i just think it would make the Dev forum look a lot cleaner and organized if all the ROM threads were in a "ROMs" subforum; all the guides threads in a "Guides" subforum; all the kernel threads in a "Kernels" subforum; etc etc.
wikis are nice, and are very helpful in organizing information, but they don't make the forum look neater or any less intimidating, and the forum is where most people go for the most up-to-date information on everything.
right now, everything is just thrown into a single place. It's the equivalent of having a single forum called "HTC Phone Discussion" that is flooded with 1000s of threads related to MyTouch's, Evo's, Diamonds, Dreams, Hero's, Nexus', HD2's, etc etc. it's really inefficient and hard to sift through because everyone's threads are getting lost in the forum. albeit, on a much smaller scale, but you get the point.
agreed
Yes, def be a big help...
I feel we do need to keep better control over the threads and make a few different sections.
yeah - would definitely make things easier.
I agree. At least group some threads, such as tons and rooting guides (there's plenty of those!) This would help make other threads a little easier to find. Not everything needs a subforum, but some things would fit naturally. With evo dev so hot right now many threads are getting buried faster then you can find them.
+1 on this, the Nexus One android development forum also has the same issue, it is full of Rom's (which is great) but you cannot find the actual development threads any more..
yeah, we dont need a subforum for everything. i think 2 will suffice: "ROMs/Kernels/Recovery" and "Guides".
+1 to this suggestion for N1 too.
bump.
do the admins even read this board?
cnstarz said:
bump.
do the admins even read this board?
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Of course we do! We'll have a resolution in the coming days. Sorry for the delay.
no worries. my thing is this:
why does xda have forums for every phone they support; why not just create a single wiki for every single phone? because having just one forum and wiki for 100 different phones is ridiculous. it'd be impossible to keep up with updates because everything would get burried. the same thing is happening to the dev forum.
Hello proud SGS-owners!
(Beware, wall-of-text)
I've been lurking around the xda forums since I got my first Android phone (Hero). Now that I've gotten myself an SGS I've "moved" from the Hero forums to the SGS forums. My first impression was that the SGS forum community is far behind that of the Hero community, which is understandable considering that SGS is a much newer phone and doesn't have as many users (yet).
I never felt that I had anything to contribute to the Hero community because it was already flourishing when I came there. I'd like to help the SGS community to move forward and reach that same level, and hopefully beyond. The SGS have the potential to be the real (iPhone?!) kick-ass phone we've all been waiting for, so why not have a kick-ass community?
It took me hours, scouring the threads, to learn how to safely flash and root my phone, but it was well worth it. The problem is, most people don't have the same patience or time to do so. So, for starters. How about we combine our shared knowledge and put up a post that will hold all the necessary info on all current FWs, basic info on how you flash, root, what odin is, how-to's and not-to-do's, and so forth.
All of this can and should also be put in the wiki, but I believe we also need a thread for it here or many people will miss out on the info. Perhaps something in between, the best of two worlds? Right now the SGS wiki is really lacking...
Any ideas or opinions? I'm all ears and open for discussion
To the mods: You can move this thread to general if you think it's out of context. However, this is first and foremost targeted at the dev-community so I think it should be left here.
Best regards,
Marcus
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Hello proud SGS-owners!
(Beware, wall-of-text)
I've been lurking around the xda forums since I got my first Android phone (Hero). Now that I've gotten myself an SGS I've "moved" from the Hero forums to the SGS forums. My first impression was that the SGS forum community is far behind that of the Hero community, which is understandable considering that SGS is a much newer phone and doesn't have as many users (yet).
I never felt that I had anything to contribute to the Hero community because it was already flourishing when I came there. I'd like to help the SGS community to move forward and reach that same level, and hopefully beyond. The SGS have the potential to be the real (iPhone?!) kick-ass phone we've all been waiting for, so why not have a kick-ass community?
It took me hours, scouring the threads, to learn how to safely flash and root my phone, but it was well worth it. The problem is, most people don't have the same patience or time to do so. So, for starters. How about we combine our shared knowledge and put up a post that will hold all the necessary info on all current FWs, basic info on how you flash, root, what odin is, how-to's and not-to-do's, and so forth.
All of this can and should also be put in the wiki, but I believe we also need a thread for it here or many people will miss out on the info. Perhaps something in between, the best of two worlds? Right now the SGS wiki is really lacking...
Any ideas or opinions? I'm all ears and open for discussion
To the mods: You can move this thread to general if you think it's out of context. However, this is first and foremost targeted at the dev-community so I think it should be left here.
Best regards,
Marcus
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Great idea to collect as many information as possible. But there's a already a thread for this: the big faq thread.
I like your intiative though. And yes, it would be very nice to have an updated wiki.
BTW, for the general section it would be nice to have a sticky tips and tricks thread, like the one tboy2000 created for the HTC HD2. We need someone though that will maintain that post.
appelflap said:
Great idea to collect as many information as possible. But there's a already a thread for this: the big faq thread.
I like your intiative though. And yes, it would be very nice to have an updated wiki.
BTW, for the general section it would be nice to have a sticky tips and tricks thread, like the one tboy2000 created for the HTC HD2. We need someone though that will maintain that post.
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Shame on me. How on earth did I miss that thread?!
Do you know if you can you let other people edit the original post in some way? That would help alot
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Shame on me. How on earth did I miss that thread?!
Do you know if you can you let other people edit the original post in some way? That would help alot
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I surely does ... But i don't believe it can be done.
BTW that would be a nice tip for XDA-dev forum developers: create an option to let multiple (selected?) users colaborate and edit one opening post. But then again, that would be almost be the same functionality as a wiki
I agree with the op, the faq thread is good but this forum could really use a 'getting started' thread for people that just got their phone. And it should be in the general forum instead of development.