Initial impressions and many problems (long) - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Just came from my Tilt to the Tilt2. Having lots of problems. Device is slow and a bit painful overall.
Background: Not a "chef" level enthusiast but comfortable upgrading ROMs, registry edits, general customization, good device organization/maintenance, etc. Been using WinMo since my trusty PDA2k. Definitely a big HTC fan overall. I was really excited to get this device as on paper it seems so much better than my Tilt. I had my Tilt for quite a while (~2+ yrs) and ended up sending it back twice to HTC for repairs. Each time they fixed something and broke something else. I finally got so sick of the non lighted keyboard (that they broke) I "upgraded" to the Tilt2. Needless to say I have been spending a lot of time here since then...
1. How many folks are sold on TF3D? Sure it looks great, a nice iPhone ripoff but does it really make you more productive, faster, offer a more intuitive UI, etc.? I'll have to say my impression is no. I am certainly giving it a chance. One big gripe is that is was fairly easy with WM 6.1 and a good today screen customizer to get access to everything you needed on a single screen. Under TF3D - no way. How many clicks or gestures does it take to start a new text message? How many to get to your tasks/to-do list? Why do all of the icons in the "top bar" such as BT, 3G, volume all go to the same useless "Notifications" menu? Very keen for feedback from some longer term TF3D-ers.
2. Phone: Used a lot of BT connection to my car system for hands free today. Dropped calls like mad. Way worse than doing the same with my Tilt/WM 6.1. General call quality is substantially improved including clarity, volume and speakerphone. But what the heck how much does quality really matter if you are dropping like mad? To me these devices are phones above all and that means phone and BT should be rock solid. With HTC they simpy NEVER seem to be. I suppose this could simply be AT&T in San Diego but the comparison with the trusty Tilt was so much worse I don't think it is signal strength. How about the slide gesture that is required to take a call? That is clumsy, why not just a red and green screen button, sure I know you can use the hard buttons but I prefer the larger easier to see screen based buttons. Perhaps the justification is less accidentall accpeted calls while reaching into pant pocket...
3. General speed, stability: Not good. Tilt/WM 6.1 was quite a but snappier. Tilt2 hangs more often and many apps are a lot slower. One staple app for me is Resco File Explorer. It is so slow it is almost useless. Just like laptops/desktops CPUs get faster, you get more memory but the overall experience and speed does not really improve.
4. IE: Sure the zooming and panning via TF is nice but when you don't want to use the mobile version of google the page is never loaded at a good size, the cursor does not seem to default in to the search text box. I seem to have to pan and zoom before entering a search. Am I really that much of a noob? Also, I just can't seem to loose the stylus and select URLs with a finger or fingernail. It seems there is a minimum required zoom level to click URLs. In general web pages load substantially slower than with IE in WM 6.1. I need to spend some more time with Opera (or others?) but not happy thus far at all.
5. AT&T bloatware: Removing it requires going through a highly manual process or using a fairly highly customized ROM. Ugh.
6. Clock: Both the fact that you can not change the clock size and the annoying auto-flipping numbers "feature" when the today screen refereshes are enormous oversights IMO. Also main TF home clock does not match clock in the top bar. They can be off by 1-3 minutes.
7. Screen ocassionally gets locked in landscape after keyboard closure. How many versions of hardware and software will it take for the HTC/Win folks to get this right? Why do we need the Gyrator or other software to get this to work like it should out of the box?
There are tons of positives for sure. One huge one is how clear the device talks to your desktop when connecting the cable (sync, disk drive, interner sharing). So much better here than prior WM versions. Of course the screen in general is crystal clear and a real beauty. Keyboard is quite good as well. The in call phone menus are great too.
I'm keen for any encouragement, general advice, ROM advice or specific advice or fixes for any issues above. Thanks.

TF3D is cute, but IMO not useful.. You're right, that stupid "flipping numbers" thing is beyond stupid. What the hell is it really doing? Every time anything changes, it flips random numbers around. Perhaps if the device and graphics were uber fast it wouldn't be bad, but it's.... well, daft.
If your phone is dropping calls, that's hardware/radio, not Wm 6.5...
Personally I had my Tilt 2 about 3 days before I moved my SIM from my Tilt to my Tilt 2. In that time I was setting it up, adding my programs, updating random stuff to go from QVGA to WVGA. Along the way I used TF3D a little, but it was mostly just aggrivating so I went back to Pocket Plus where I can use my Today Screen plugins that I love.
There's a whole thread about not using TF3D, I think you should just read it, I think it covers most of your gripes ;-) TF3D is just a Today Screen plugin, you realize that right? If you want, disable it, use what you used in WM 6.1. It should all work, assuming resolutions or other compatibilities, but personally all of my today screen plugins worked.

swamp2 said:
Just came from my Tilt to the Tilt2. Having lots of problems. Device is slow and a bit painful overall.
Background: Not a "chef" level enthusiast but comfortable upgrading ROMs, registry edits, general customization, good device organization/maintenance, etc...
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If you're comfortable flashing ROM's - try some of the offerings from the chefs here. I used my T-Mo TP2 stock for about 2 days before flashing. They make a huge difference in both performance and usability. I'm partial to AthineOS and NRG's ROM's, currently on the latest AthineOS with WinMo 6.5.1 (Start and OK on the bottom - very finger friendly) TF3D 2.1, as of last night. I use a product called Sashimi (Google it) which automates flashinbe by auto-configuring all my apps, wifi, ActiveSync, customizations, etc. I can now flash a ROM and be up and running as if nothing happened in about 30 minutes. The custom ROM's are all mostly tweaked for speed, and are absolutely faster than my stock ROM was.
Opera is head and shoulders above IE these days, get a copy of 9.7, it compares very well to the Safari browser on the iPhone - the best mobile browser IMHO.
I've had a Tilt (numerous WinMo's actually), iPhone 3GS (still have it), Android G1 (still have it), and think right now this phone beats most.
The one area I will agree is very buggy still is the landscape flipping. I just make sure I'm in a very compatible program (Opera, Mail, Garmin, etc) when opening the slider, and then stay away from TF3D while landscaped. It's a bit of a PITA, but worth it for the awesome keyboard.
Don't give up, this phone has a ton of potential.
-JS

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WM6.1 on Hermes vs Kaiser?

I searched and didn't find answer to this question.
While I understand there are still some things to work out between 6.1 on Hermes, how does Wm6.1 perform on Hermes versus on Kaiser?
Or, is it just not a fair comparison?
Depends on why you're asking this question. Flashed several 6.1 roms on the hermes before it crapped out, just got the kaiser a few days ago and flashed even more 6.1 roms on it, guess what, not a huge difference in performance. Yea the kaiser has more zip, but it's hardly a revolution. In fact, I went back to schaps wm6 4.30. If you like wm 6.1 though, stick with the hermes for now, it's more than adequate
Performance wise its all the same. The only advantage i see is more RAM, which means i can use touchflo applications more easily in a kaiser than a hermes. Also in opinion this means less resets! But they are all crapy usual WM LOL.
Kasier vs Hermes
kaalgoosy said:
Depends on why you're asking this question. Flashed several 6.1 roms on the hermes before it crapped out, just got the kaiser a few days ago and flashed even more 6.1 roms on it, guess what, not a huge difference in performance. Yea the kaiser has more zip, but it's hardly a revolution. In fact, I went back to schaps wm6 4.30. If you like wm 6.1 though, stick with the hermes for now, it's more than adequate
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That's good to know. I am using a variant of Schaps 4.31 (WM6) for some time now. Looking into to flash a WM6.1 mainly for zippier response on my Hermes and also comtemplating to get a Kasier. After seeing a few YouTube demos on Kaiser showing how smooth and fast the Kaiser is was tempting me to get a Kaiser. Perhaps I should hold for now and go to HTC diamond later.
I'd been running Hermes for almost 2 years years, just got a used Tilt (Kaiser) from a friend for $250 because they want to upgrade to the new iPhone 3G. I've had it now for about a week. It's definitely a better phone in my opinion -- not revolutionary, but incrementally better. Things that are better:
1) better bluetooth radio range - I can wander pretty far away from the phone (15 feet or so) before I get the "crackly" bluetooth sound, my Hermes would get crackly just a few steps away
2) GPS built in - way too fun, already used it several times! (Using iNAV iGuidance 4.0, Google Maps, WiFiFoFum)
3) More RAM - really does make a difference, you can leave programs running, I think memory leaks from bad programs don't bring you down as fast
4) Faster memory card access - when running apps from the memory card, they load faster
5) LED based backlight - it can get way brighter than Hermes, and won't age and dim like the Hermes one over the long run
6) Slightly thinner and sleeker
7) Better radio reception in places that used to be dead zones no matter which radio I used on my Hermes
8) 3MP camera - loads faster, takes pictures a little bit faster, but the quality does vary, the auto-focus algorithm doesn't always work right.
9) That "tilt" function actually works pretty nicely when reading an e-book.
10) The phone wakes up much more quickly when pressing the power button, and the clock is always up to date (my Hermes always took a few seconds to wake up when pressing the power button, and then you had to wait a few more seconds for the clock to update when checking the time).
11) I like the spring-loaded keyboard slider, even the stock ROM is very fast to rotate the screen for the majority of apps
12) Earpiece speaker quality is slightly better.
I'm using the latest stock AT&T ROM, WM6, Rom date 01/17/08. I just uninstalled and/or moved most of the AT&T shortcuts out of the way so it looks like a clean ROM.
Downsides of Kaiser versus the Hermes:
1) I haven't ventured into hacking and updating the ROM on it yet - it looks more complicated than ROMs on the Hermes. You have to flash different SPLs depending on what ROM you are using, different radios don't work at all with various ROMs, there are "radios from hell" that can't be removed without serious hackery -- it's a much more complicated landscape. Our ROM cookers for Hermes do a great job of simplifying this stuff for us.
2) It's a bit heavier than Hermes, even though it's a tiny bit thinner.
3) No CommManager hardware button. I figured out how to remap the PTT button for this with help from the Kaiser forum.
4) Weirdness with AT&T proxy manager. Even on the stock ROM, MediaNET still requires some manual loving to get MMSs to work.
5) I like the feel of the Hermes keyboard just a bit better (subjective)
6) The buttons on the bottom aren't flush -so I accidentally rejected several calls while pulling the phone out of my pocket until I installed S2U2.
7) MS Voicecommand doesn't seem to be as accurate on Kaiser as it was on the Hermes.
8) No LED Flash - I miss the flashlight from the Hermes. I still can use the screen, which gets much brighter than the hermes, but that LED light was cool.
9) Camera frame rate goes way down in low light - pretty unusable. There is some kind of fix for this I'm still looking into.
Programs in use: Haali Reader (ebook reader), GMail & Opera Mini, (both of these with GC Java Pack 1.2.4 - it's great!), Google Maps, Total Commander v2.5, Laridian Pocketbible 4, SBSH Weather, SPB Time, WM5torage 1.8 with Kaiser fix and 'disable concurrency ' and 'disable RNDIS on Activate' selected, Microsoft Live Search 3.0.3047.24749, PocketCM (to put hi-res contact pictures in place), iContact 0.741, BatteryStatus 1.05.127, MS Voicecommand, Mortplayer, S2U2 v1.05, SPB Pocket Plus 4.0.2, VITO Audio Notes Touch 1.02, installed NETCFv35, KaiserTweak (to soup a few things up, which really helped), HTC Audio Manager, MortPlayer, and syncing with an exchange server. I can't believe how stable this is.
Kaiser vs Hermes
thedogger,
Thank you very much for the insight. It does sounds like Kaiser is a refinement of Hermes whch provides the stability that everyone using Hermes has been screaming.
Again, thanks. Your experience in the switch and insight is very helpful.
I agree with thedogger with all the pro's and con's with the Kaiser, all that said, if you're due for an upgrade or can find a kaiser within around 150 american or less, it's definitely worth an upgrade. The Kaiser just feels more sophistocated; much more stable, Gps is a huge plus, faster installs, brighter screen, tilt keyboard feels awesome, etc...I wouldn't worry about the Diamond($$$), all I've heard so far is that it's kinda slow for a next gen phone. After a week with the kaiser, its the best upgrade I made so far for the pricetag.

WisBar Advance Desktop

Is it any good compared to TFL3D? Looks nice and possibly better than any other finger like interfaces!!
did a search but not too clear? any help
Go to http://www.lakeridgesoftware.com/forum/index.php - that is the official forum.
It is good and very customisable, if you have a little time and skill with photoshop etc.
To be fair, I think he's looking for some opinion from the community rather than the slightly biased view from the Lakeridge forums. Trouble is, an impartial view will be hard to come by. Lots of people on this site will tell you it's wonderful...with great conviction and some justification.
For what it's worth, I put it on my device a few weeks ago and it came back off pretty much straight away. It certainly is highly customisable - many of the sexier and more complex themes on this site are WAD themes - but customising isn't all that straightforward and that's what put me off. I didn't have the time or the inclination.
Some will love it and some will hate it, but my personal preference is for SPB Mobile Shell. I used TF3d in preference to SPBMS2.x (although I'm currently taking davideuck's excellent WM6.5 ROM for a spin) but will look very seriously at v3 which should be out later this month or early next. There are YouTube videos and a dedicated website kicking about if you search around.
have not tried wisebar advance desktop but wisebar advance does drag the performance of the device in my own observation.
I find that if you want to have better performance, touchflo, mobileshell or pointui offers that.
Agree that the configuration of WAD is no piece of cake, but I love it for...
...as many appointments on main screen as screen permits (and those appointments can also be way in the future)
...16 tabs on main screen and 16 more just a finger touch away (tabs can also be a URL, or macro)
...lots of prefab skins so I dont need to worry about Photoshop...
IMO,
Positive: WAD2 allows for much more customization of screens.
i.e. weather info, plugin imbedding, status info, screen button look, etc.
Negative: not as graphically advanced as TF3d. i.e. weather, mail, stock, etc. animations are much better in TF3d.
Also, it is still a little buggy. Random crashes and such. it seems that WAD2 needs some more fine tuning before it's ready for prime time.
In essence, if you're looking a more infomative overlay, quicker access to functions, and much more customization then WAD2 is fun to play with.
But, if your looking for a stable, graphically advanced, overlay, Tf3D is the way to go.
Personally, I use TF3D because I like the look, feel and responsiveness, especially with the great Roms cooked here. But, I miss WAD's plasticity.
Thanks guys, yeah im looking at SPB v. 3, just need to find a good ROM out there to use!!!

Enjoying PointUI Home2 over Touchflo or SPB etc. Check it out.

I was getting a little bored and irritated at the way Touchflo was making everything so hard to get to.
I put everything back to standard Windows for a while but it obviously wasn't particularly very finger friendly (although not as bad as everyone made out).
I tried SPB 3 but tbh it looks and feels amateur and the UI wasn't as clean as I'd have liked.
I then came across the free version of PointUI Home2 (http://www.pointui.com) and its a really nice replacement for Touchflo. (It also seems to use less memory and is definitely faster.
It has panels like Android which are actually usefull, ie.e displaying all email summaries for an account on homepage etc.
There is a big development community and there are many apps and themes that make it looks and work very nicely. Lots of sliding transitions, and an almost full graphical UI replacement for commonly used menus like start and settings.
If you haven't yet, check it out.
here's a fairly decent run through video (although it does look and work a little better on my TP2 and the default theme is nicer than on this vid:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXIy_9fZBa4
All the Themes available (inc android, sense etc.): http://community.pointui.com/topic/themes-the-themes-store
All the Apps available: http://community.pointui.com/topic/applets-the-applets-store
Probably the best theme, PointSenseUI: http://community.pointui.com/topic/pointsense_s2u2
I used Home on my phone from 1.0 to soon after they released 2. The one thing I couldn't get over was the screen rotate lag on my Tilt. I'm sure that's less of a problem on the TP2 (or I hope?) but it drove me away from it.
That said, each revision from the PointUI team made the program get better and better. There are a ton of UGGGLLLYYY themes but of course there's a gem every now and then. I used the "Seven" theme, I think.
I think the coolest feature of Home2 is how anyone can make an applet. And while some are butt-ugly, some are really nice looking and amazing. It's worth checking out at least for the sheer number of cool apps people add to it.
I (still) don't have my TP2 but I'm going to give TF3D, Chome, and Home2 a fair run. Home2 is a really nice looking program and I don't care if it makes me 10% less productive on my phone, aesthetics can enhance my experience enough to make up for that.
Im finding it is very responsive and enhances my phone greatly.
I've paid for the pro version, and the threaded messages and message timeline feature is worth that alone. Basically you can have a timeline of messages, including all emails and sms all by time, brilliant.
It is very beautiful and i also use 7even. I don't have auto rotate enabled as i dislike rotating displays unless i pull out the keyboard but everything else is great.

TF3D is too slow for my liking, any better options?

Hi all, its been a while since I posted but I am the former user of the 8125,8525, and 8925 (tilt) and haven't used a pocket pc phone since then. I had my stints with the Fuze & Touch HD but thats another story. Anyways Ive been using the iPhone 3g/3gs for the last year and I recently sold it to purchase the AT&T Tilt 2. I must say although the phone is very good looking and this is the best qwerty I have ever used, the phone lags and it is kinda slow especially comparing phones like the iPhone or BBerry Bold 2. What are my options in terms of Navigating the GUI without TF3D? I remember when I used to own my pocketpc's I used a program called "HTC Home" which was simple,fast, and efficient. Does that program still work on the Rhodium? Do I have any options of using something similar to the TF3d but faster? Or will changing my ROM make the difference up in speed? Let me know what you all think and thanks in advance. Also What does "Manilla" mean?
Dude there are so many ways to have a decent UI without manila go through a lot of the rom threads and read about each one, Most have light versions and a titanium version that eliminate tf3d completely. MANILA= TF3D they are one and the same as I see it, some people might get more technical with you but its like a tilt 2 and a touch pro 2 different names for basically the same thing, minus a few hardware differences when talking devices. Also Give SPB Mobile Shell a try, you can download a trial and if yuo like it can either purchase it or do one of those promotions and get it cheap o pm me and I'll let you know where to find it I myself love tf3d and cant wait till it becomes fully modifyable with the ability to make my own tabs for whatever we see fit, It will happen just gonna take a while and have some genius' coding things so quick links can be installed in the script with copy and paste so its easy for everyone to do. I think there may be a few other 3rd party UIs out there too, so just play around and see what fits you. And if you cant fully uninstall something its not like a hard reset cant be done! Always backup what you dont want to lose.
See here for HTC Home for WVGA/VGA devices.
Buy an HD2
Windows default "titanium" is also very customizable and much less RAM eating than TF3D.
I´ll stay with Manila 2.1 working very smooth for me
I really lost interest in this phone the more I used it - I found tf3d to be too slow... Rather than flash ROMS, I gave SPB Mobile Shell a try. It's awesome! I removed all items from the today screen and just run the shell.
Memory usage is different as well. Before I had to keep it under 50% to get the phone to run. With Mobile Shell I just keep opening programs up to 80% and the interface doesn't lag.
Give it a try...
Want a familiar and friendly (as well as FAAST) interface?
Google iPhoneToday. It's mimics the iPhone interface and is very easy to setup shortcuts and icons.
Simply go t your SETTINGS>TODAY button and disable TF3D and ENABLE iPhoneToday.
I love this interface much better as it's quick and to the point. Also less memory uses than TF3D

Where do I start? ATT bloatware eating it alive!

Hello all!
I am just coming off of using a Tilt for 3 years, and finally it died. In my opinion, it was the best phone I ever owned. I had high expectations for this new tilt2, but alas - when it arrived, I was dismayed at all of the crapware, levels of junk, and the lack of ability to control what icons I see on the start menu (which looks like someone vomited icons all over the screen - no organization to them at all - I have to dig 3 menus deep just to find file explorer, and FORGET about the wireless manager! It's hopeless!
Why oh why have they taken away the customization that made WM great?
On my old Tilt, I simply ran the stock rom, and did the reset to avoid all the att crapware, for a plain vanilla WM5 device. I then ran Kaisertweak, and HTC Home customizer. It ran whatever apps I threw at it, and ran them well.
My only complaint would be that compared to the iphone, the apps look and feel clunkier, but as I said, they worked very well, so who cares? Even the freeware Opera browser worked well, if inferior to Safari - but not terrible.
Is there any way to make this one look and act like that? What I wouldnt give for it to run WM5, I swear...
I have owned: Casiopea e150, dell x3, dell x5, royaltech PPC w/ gps, Eten M600, Glofiish X500, ATT 8125, ATT tilt, Iphone 2g, Iphone 3g, and now this.
I am not afraid of tweaking, although I dislike 'cooked' roms - Id rather fix a clean factory release.
Of all of those, the (old) Tilt was my woobee. I might just see if I can find another one somewhere. I like the new screen, and the fact it can play xvid movies without a recode, but damn...is it worth it? I'm afraid to put any software on this thing, because I might never find it again!
subterran said:
Hello all!
I am just coming off of using a Tilt for 3 years, and finally it died. In my opinion, it was the best phone I ever owned. I had high expectations for this new tilt2, but alas - when it arrived, I was dismayed at all of the crapware, levels of junk, and the lack of ability to control what icons I see on the start menu (which looks like someone vomited icons all over the screen - no organization to them at all - I have to dig 3 menus deep just to find file explorer, and FORGET about the wireless manager! It's hopeless!
Why oh why have they taken away the customization that made WM great?
On my old Tilt, I simply ran the stock rom, and did the reset to avoid all the att crapware, for a plain vanilla WM5 device. I then ran Kaisertweak, and HTC Home customizer. It ran whatever apps I threw at it, and ran them well.
My only complaint would be that compared to the iphone, the apps look and feel clunkier, but as I said, they worked very well, so who cares? Even the freeware Opera browser worked well, if inferior to Safari - but not terrible.
Is there any way to make this one look and act like that? What I wouldnt give for it to run WM5, I swear...
I have owned: Casiopea e150, dell x3, dell x5, royaltech PPC w/ gps, Eten M600, Glofiish X500, ATT 8125, ATT tilt, Iphone 2g, Iphone 3g, and now this.
I am not afraid of tweaking, although I dislike 'cooked' roms - Id rather fix a clean factory release.
Of all of those, the (old) Tilt was my woobee. I might just see if I can find another one somewhere. I like the new screen, and the fact it can play xvid movies without a recode, but damn...is it worth it? I'm afraid to put any software on this thing, because I might never find it again!
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Best advice I can offer sense you dont really want a cooked rom is to grab a Program like Total commander and remove the icons you dont want and rearrange it anyway you would like
How about this: can someone point me to a plain vanilla WM6.1 (if that will work) or a WM6.5 ROM and maybe a few device driver cabs?
Oh, and by the way - I hate the 70's flipdown clock. I wish I could at choose how that looks. My god...the WM developers have now painted themselves into a corner!
*grumble grumble*
Subterran-
I think you may be overreacting a bit. I don't understand, with all of your device experience, why you aren't willing to find a cooked ROM that suits your needs and just slap it on there.
I tried the stock HTC ROM from here, http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/Shipped_Roms, and found it to be a good alternative.
There are programs to change the interface, i.e. SPB Mobile Shell, which will let you get rid of what seems to be your biggest complaint.. There are programs to do just about anything you want it to do.
Oh, I also had a Tilt1 (Tytn II) and this one is an improvement over it, though it was a very good device.
subterran said:
Oh, and by the way - I hate the 70's flipdown clock. I wish I could at choose how that looks. My god...the WM developers have now painted themselves into a corner!
*grumble grumble*
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I think that clock is all HTC's doing. I would like some different options for clocks and some of the cooked ones are good.
subterran said:
Hello all!
I am just coming off of using a Tilt for 3 years, and finally it died. In my opinion, it was the best phone I ever owned. I had high expectations for this new tilt2, but alas - when it arrived, I was dismayed at all of the crapware, levels of junk, and the lack of ability to control what icons I see on the start menu (which looks like someone vomited icons all over the screen - no organization to them at all - I have to dig 3 menus deep just to find file explorer, and FORGET about the wireless manager! It's hopeless!
Why oh why have they taken away the customization that made WM great?
On my old Tilt, I simply ran the stock rom, and did the reset to avoid all the att crapware, for a plain vanilla WM5 device. I then ran Kaisertweak, and HTC Home customizer. It ran whatever apps I threw at it, and ran them well.
My only complaint would be that compared to the iphone, the apps look and feel clunkier, but as I said, they worked very well, so who cares? Even the freeware Opera browser worked well, if inferior to Safari - but not terrible.
Is there any way to make this one look and act like that? What I wouldnt give for it to run WM5, I swear...
I have owned: Casiopea e150, dell x3, dell x5, royaltech PPC w/ gps, Eten M600, Glofiish X500, ATT 8125, ATT tilt, Iphone 2g, Iphone 3g, and now this.
I am not afraid of tweaking, although I dislike 'cooked' roms - Id rather fix a clean factory release.
Of all of those, the (old) Tilt was my woobee. I might just see if I can find another one somewhere. I like the new screen, and the fact it can play xvid movies without a recode, but damn...is it worth it? I'm afraid to put any software on this thing, because I might never find it again!
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remove these files http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=UninstallingTilt2Software
Get Crud Scraper, it does it for you. Great app.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587637&highlight=crud+scraper
All better! Thanks all!
OK - yes I must admit, I was overreacting. I jumped out and grabbed the very capable SPD mobile shell, and that took care of me being completely lost because of the worlds nuttiest start menu (!)
Here is my complete load, in case anyone is interested:
Stock 6.5 ATT ROM
Install .net 3.5 so I can use:
Crudscraper (Awesome way to clean the bloatware out, thanks!)
SPB Mobile Shell (this completely bypasses the default start menu / home - good riddance!)
1% Increment Battery Driver
K-Battery (a slick, freeware battery meter that looks great)
Memory Map Weather Radar
Vito Audionotes MP3 recorder
National Geographic Pocket Topo
Odyssey Mobile Navigator
Backcountry Navigator
TCPMP Player (Orb looks ver nice!)
WMWifirouter
Resco Regedit
Phoenix Studio
Then just customize SPB like I want it, and BAM - POW! How you like me now!
I REALLY like the mount-as-disc feature for accessing the microsd. About time! I am much happier with this phone.
Thanks XDA!
Looks like you're settled on Mobile Shell. If you ever feel like using the default start menu, I use JWMD Icon Changer to sort the icons, make folders, and (obviously) change icons. As another mentioned, you can use Total Commander to move the icons.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=567080
I found these alternate TouchFlo 3D clock on these forums.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=526466
Haven't tried them on my Tilt2 yet, but likely will soon.
Also HD Tweak (works just fine on Tilt2 despite being intended for Touch HD) and Advanced Config are great places to start tweaking settings.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=452505
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
And this thread is invaluable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524655

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