i'm about to try to extend my ram using 128mb chip. the question is:
how to check if my rom is 64mb fixed or autodetect & can it be changed in kitchen?
i'm using tomme45i 6.5 b23017 classic rom cooked in his kitchen
thnx in advice
matu said:
i'm about to try to extend my ram using 128mb chip. the question is:
how to check if my rom is 64mb fixed or autodetect & can it be changed in kitchen?
i'm using tomme45i 6.5 b23017 classic rom cooked in his kitchen
thnx in advice
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How are you doing that??? I'm interested...
Yes I imagine many of us are waiting eagerly to see how this works out
(I had subscribed the thread as soon as I saw it posted )
the.decoy said:
Yes I imagine many of us are waiting eagerly to see how this works out
(I had subscribed the thread as soon as I saw it posted )
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like on every ppc - phisically install new ram chip.
but before that procedure i need to know if ram is locked on 64mb or free to scan.
on dell x51v ram is unlocked. and upgrade to 64mb is pretty simple.
matu said:
like on every ppc - phisically install new ram chip.
but before that procedure i need to know if ram is locked on 64mb or free to scan.
on dell x51v ram is unlocked. and upgrade to 64mb is pretty simple.
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Sorry, what I meant was to see if it is indeed locked or unlocked
I can't imagine any part of the SYS or MSXIP will be a problem ... it really just boils down to how the OEMXIP will handle it.
Kudos to you for doing this!
I have wondered if this was possible ever since I realised how painfully limiting 64MB is to this device.
Please share as much detail about the procedure as you are willing to
Oh ... damn, I just realised something as I posted that ... I think there may well be an issue with you using an existing cooked ROM ... see this memory map from a Trinity ROM I have cooked:
Memory Map...
SLOT 0: 0x02000000 - 0x01e00000 (END: 0x00060000, 0 MODULES)
0x02000000 - 0x01fe0000 - ROM 0
0x01fa0000 - 0x01e00000 - ROM 1
SLOT 1: 0x04000000 - 0x02020000 (END: 0x02020000, 298 MODULES)
RAM IMAGE: 0x80000000 - 0x80276928
RAM: 0x80277000 - 0x802ac000 - Used for kernel modules
0x802ac000 - 0x83a00000 - 55 MB free
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Now that is in the kitchen itself ... it's memory addressing is setup for 64MB prior to any contact with the actual device
I will have to investigate in the kitchen some more to see if that RAM image address range can be altered ... will look into it and post back.
We may need to enlist the advice of some of the more hardcore devs on xda-dev (like those who wrote these kitchen tools) to work it out.
EDIT: At this stage I am pretty sure that you will need (someone) to modify the "RAM end" address (and probably relocate all the other addresses to suit) somewhere in the XIP ... probably the NK.exe or possibly in the ROMHDR ... sorry this particular stuff is still a little out my league I'm afraid.
The answer will no doubt involve some of the techniques outlined in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438676
If I can be of any more help I will get back to you.
matu said:
like on every ppc - phisically install new ram chip.
but before that procedure i need to know if ram is locked on 64mb or free to scan.
on dell x51v ram is unlocked. and upgrade to 64mb is pretty simple.
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I was wondering about the physical changing of the chip. I'm assuming it is a soldered chip? I've never really looked inside to determine that. I went in to fix a loose vibrator, but never looked around.
Don't tell my wife.
About vibrator or looking around?
and on the subject:
maybe he can use P6300 ROM/XIP or even TyTNII
P3600 Tinity vs P6300
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=1993&idPhone1=1694
P3600 Tinity vs TyTNII
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=2024&idPhone1=1694
here u can compare it to other models:
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idMaker2=45&idPhone1=1694
_X_ said:
and on the subject:
maybe he can use P6300 ROM/XIP or even TyTNII
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Not that I have tested it but I would be pretty sure that the Samsung vs Qualcomm CPU difference would spoil that plan
ehem ... forget about TyTNII
the.decoy said:
Oh ... damn, I just realised something as I posted that ... I think there may well be an issue with you using an existing cooked ROM ... see this memory map from a Trinity ROM I have cooked:
Now that is in the kitchen itself ... it's memory addressing is setup for 64MB prior to any contact with the actual device
I will have to investigate in the kitchen some more to see if that RAM image address range can be altered ... will look into it and post back.
We may need to enlist the advice of some of the more hardcore devs on xda-dev (like those who wrote these kitchen tools) to work it out.
EDIT: At this stage I am pretty sure that you will need (someone) to modify the "RAM end" address (and probably relocate all the other addresses to suit) somewhere in the XIP ... probably the NK.exe or possibly in the ROMHDR ... sorry this particular stuff is still a little out my league I'm afraid.
The answer will no doubt involve some of the techniques outlined in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=438676
If I can be of any more help I will get back to you.
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Indeed, in both of them. The best choice is to use an nk.exe of P3600i (rev3), the romhdr.bin is for cooking as P3600i has 128MB it should be ok.
mac_es said:
Indeed, in both of them. The best choice is to use an nk.exe of P3600i (rev3), the romhdr.bin is for cooking as P3600i has 128MB it should be ok.
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There was a P3600i that had 128M ram???
I know we have double the Storage mem of the Trinity (256M) but my "i" model and every other one I am aware of still only have 64M ram.
the.decoy said:
There was a P3600i that had 128M ram???
I know we have double the Storage mem of the Trinity (256M) but my "i" model and every other one I am aware of still only have 64M ram.
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I thought all P3600i's had 128MB.
Yeap
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=1694&idPhone1=2126
only doubled storage, amount of RAM is the same
_X_ said:
Yeap
http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone2=1694&idPhone1=2126
only doubled storage, amount of RAM is the same
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Wow, all this time I thought they had it so good for cooking...
they got faster CPU also
SuperSport said:
Wow, all this time I thought they had it so good for cooking...
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heeeell no
We are in exactly the same boat as you guys ... that's why I have put all that effort into cleaning up the VM Slot0 lately.
The only real difference is that we don't need to go nuts removing SYS packages to eek out extra bits of Storage mem. Even the biggest of roms fits reasonably onto 256M.
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they got faster CPU also
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Actually yes that is true, I forgot about that. lol, not that we ever have enough ram to run anything that will tax the CPU enough to tell the difference
So again ... I think some serious hex hacking (or G'reloc skills) would be required on the NK.exe to change those RAM address locations to make use of the larger RAM chip.
the.decoy said:
heeeell no
We are in exactly the same boat as you guys ... that's why I have put all that effort into cleaning up the VM Slot0 lately.
The only real difference is that we don't need to go nuts removing SYS packages to eek out extra bits of Storage mem. Even the biggest of roms fits reasonably onto 256M.
Actually yes that is true, I forgot about that. lol, not that we ever have enough ram to run anything that will tax the CPU enough to tell the difference
So again ... I think some serious hex hacking (or G'reloc skills) would be required on the NK.exe to change those RAM address locations to make use of the larger RAM chip.
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Ops! It hought that it was the 128MB in RAM too.
Caution whith removing every module from slot0. Some modules need to run in slot 0 because of security reasons... basically are some old modules, and as we are using WM5 drivers...
The faster CPU is the reason why the nk.exe of P3600 is not working in P3600i.
In the thread of erviuskitchen, ervius provided to me a modified nk.exe (for P3600) which reclaimed more RAM. You can try it...
The g'reloc part is the same, as we haven't a new nk.exe we only have 2 slots to fit modules...
mac_es said:
Caution whith removing every module from slot0. Some modules need to run in slot 0 because of security reasons... basically are some old modules, and as we are using WM5 drivers...
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Oh, believe me it was a painstaking process of identifying just what SYS modules I needed to convert to get exactly slot0=empty & slot1=full
I would never recmod anything from OEM for the reasons you outlined (and there are plenty of SYS modules that I would never do either). I pretty much tried my best to only recmod modules for large exe & dll that were not being utilised all the time anyway. Judging by the stability I now have I think it has paid off
mac_es said:
The faster CPU is the reason why the nk.exe of P3600 is not working in P3600i.
In the thread of erviuskitchen, ervius provided to me a modified nk.exe (for P3600) which reclaimed more RAM. You can try it...
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Interesting, I will have to check that out. Unfortunately because I didn't start cooking until wonderful tools like VK were already here, I never had to learn all that heavy low level stuff from manual XIP porting and so I am kinda learning some of it in reverse now
Related
Dpdurst is graciously hosting all ROMS for the 4700. The link is: http://wm6.winmobile.us/hpmain.htm
This is finest and most complete collection of 4700 ROMs. For those interested in my SL61V3_lite ROM, the link is:
http://rapidshare.com/files/102132189/SL61V3_lite.zip
My best wishes to all who continue development for the 4700.
Regards,
Sanjay
Thanks for the effort
I tried the untouched pdaviet version but had a couple issues with it, but will try your modified version.
Keyboard is back to looking presentable!!! Thanks algasystems. Hey sanjay I still have the Windows Mobile Lawn boot screen though... It looks the same as the pdaviet rom I think... I'm not gonna reflash back to check but i'm pretty sure.
I guess it's a good thing you started this thread... the vulcan was probably going to loose it any day now.
I'm using the 4700 rom editor for mods, what are you using.
Thanks for saving me the work of cleaning up the rom!!!
Later..
Chemong: I wish you good luck, but don't believe you will find my variation fixes any issues such as battery problems. This is just a cleaner version of the same rom.
MannyMania: Interesting that you are still seeing the lawn. Here's the boot screen I now see. Oh well, at least the keyboard is fixed. I don't intend to do anymore to this since it now is good enough until Kozhura returns but hopefully others will take this and improve it.
I've used Vivi's kitchen in the past, but for simple changes such as these, I just use mamaich's tools directly. I credited Chamine in earlier posts for the boot splash change tips.
Hope this works for you.
Regards.
Just flashed to HX4700 PDAVIET wm6.1 and the keyboard looks familiar to me, thanx.
Ciao
Just a note:
The first time I tried the PDAViet version, I saw the rather undesireable bootsplash. I tried re-flashing the previous WM6.0, which did not un-do the bootsplash.
I found that the only way to get the original blue and white HP bootsplash is to re-flash your device with the official WM5 upgrade. If you don't have the WM5 upgrade, I bet any of the WM2003 ROM update patches will yield the same results (just visit HP's website and search for your device to visit the downloads).
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=420535&taskId=135&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=420534&submit.y=0&submit.x=0&lang=en&cc=us
(This only applies if you want to revert back to WM6.0.)
Nice job, Sanjay! I ony had PDAVIet's version installed for a few minutes before I promptly removed it. You have solved every issue I had with their version.
what did i do wrong?
First of all, greetings and thanks to everyone who made WM6 possible on hx4700!
I noticed that my device shows only 54.33 program memory? On your screenshot it shows 100 and something. How to enable this?
Thanks!
sleeps said:
First of all, greetings and thanks to everyone who made WM6 possible on hx4700!
I noticed that my device shows only 54.33 program memory? On your screenshot it shows 100 and something. How to enable this?
Thanks!
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If you didn't add your ram to 128mb, that's normal
SleepyPrince said:
If you didn't add your ram to 128mb, that's normal
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You mean physically welded another memory chip?
sleeps said:
You mean physically welded another memory chip?
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Well possibly, but I would not recommend doing it yourself!!
http://www.pocketpctechs.com
MaffooClock said:
Just a note:
The first time I tried the PDAViet version, I saw the rather undesireable bootsplash. I tried re-flashing the previous WM6.0, which did not un-do the bootsplash.
I found that the only way to get the original blue and white HP bootsplash is to re-flash your device with the official WM5 upgrade. If you don't have the WM5 upgrade, I bet any of the WM2003 ROM update patches will yield the same results (just visit HP's website and search for your device to visit the downloads).
http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/DriverDownload.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodNameId=420535&taskId=135&prodTypeId=215348&prodSeriesId=420534&submit.y=0&submit.x=0&lang=en&cc=us
(This only applies if you want to revert back to WM6.0.)
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MaffooClock:
Interesting. If people are seeing the PDAVIET splash and I'm not, your explanation may be why. When I reflashed my 4700 with the latest ROM, my previous flash may not have been undone. So thank you for the experiments.
Because of the capabilities of the 4700 (e.g. no phone), I believe this ROM can be made even leaner. I will try to repeat your steps and fix the flash the next time.
Do you think reflashing with a Kozhura WM6 ROM would accomplish the same thing? Even the thought of reverting back to the HP WM5 disaster causes me to shudder.
Regards.
sanjay1951 said:
Well possibly, but I would not recommend doing it yourself!!
http://www.pocketpctechs.com
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uhhh, so everything os OK with mine
Thanks!
I did the upgrade from PPC techs and my 4700 works fine, been over a year since they did it and no effects at all.
Also posted the new Sanjay 6.1 build to my website for those that don't want to use rapidshare.
http://wm6.flyingarizona.net
sanjay1951,
Great work.
Does this ROM has all rgu files or you deleted them all ?
vivi
Edit : I dumped it , no rgu files.
vivi
vivi said:
sanjay1951,
Great work.
Does this ROM has all rgu files or you deleted them all ?
vivi
Edit : I dumped it , no rgu files.
vivi
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Thank you Vivi. I've found your kitchen to be excellent as well and a great help for ROM tuning. I also read your tips including ones to remove the RGU files, but PDAVIET already had these deleted so I did not need to remove them. I still feel though that for the 4700 capabilities, there are other files that can be removed to free up more space. I will experiment more to see what I can do with this.
Regards,
Sanjay
dpdurst said:
I did the upgrade from PPC techs and my 4700 works fine, been over a year since they did it and no effects at all.
Also posted the new Sanjay 6.1 build to my website for those that don't want to use rapidshare.
http://wm6.flyingarizona.net
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Thank you dpdurst for posting the rom to your site. I don't have a site so I appreciate you doing this. It's the contribution of many and sharing that makes this better for all of us.
Regards.
Oh...and Happy Anniversary!
sanjay1951 said:
Thank you Vivi. I've found your kitchen to be excellent as well and a great help for ROM tuning. I also read your tips including ones to remove the RGU files, but PDAVIET already had these deleted so I did not need to remove them. I still feel though that for the 4700 capabilities, there are other files that can be removed to free up more space. I will experiment more to see what I can do with this.
Regards,
Sanjay
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Thanks Sanjay,
rgu files are needed in using ROM Kitchen.
If no rgu files in ROM, no way to re-packages from that ROM and use ROM Kitchen.
I want to try this ROM but I also want to add my favorite programs in this ROM also.If no rgu files,then I have to manually add and edit it.
I am working with WM6.1 ROM for ASUS P525 and fixing WiFi error with no success , so no time to build Hx4700 WM6.1 from scratch.
BTW,thanks.
vivi
Someone should post the ATI drivers from the hx4700 on here.
--James
sleeps said:
You mean physically welded another memory chip?
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Yes, actually is replace the 64MB memory
Hello all.
Photos of my 128mb RAM Loox N560, all info will be posted later... After testing...
Very good freepk, i'm waiting!
freepk said:
Hello all.
Photos of my 128mb RAM Loox N560, all info will be posted later... After testing...
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NICE
We used to do this to my palm V, haha... upgrade from 4meg to 8meg
Can't wait for details and $$ costs..
I had a feeling this was possible! THANK YOU FREEPK! The next question is anyone offering to do this as a service? I would definately pay good money to do this (and also upgrade to WinMo 6.1 whenever a perfect version is ready... and also maybe SDHC working with wifi)
That's GREAT! Waiting for detials!!!
great.
is it possible to increase the size of the rom to 256m as well? anyway, I'm also waiting for the details.
freepk said:
Hello all.
Photos of my 128mb RAM Loox N560, all info will be posted later... After testing...
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any update on the upgrade?
another question freepk (if you still read this thread)...
Did you have to make a customised ROM to recognise the new amount of RAM?
Sorry all for long pause.
For RAM upgrade u just need two things
1) Hardware chips upgrade, i use two HYB25L512160AC-7.5 (like in other devides, Uni, 4700, Axim)
2) Patched NK.EXE in XIP, i made test firmware for this - http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/1592182/n560.128mb.rar
Without software patch u will work fine with new chips, but OS can use just 64mb.
U can also try translate this thread with google - http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=75722
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2) Patched NK.EXE in XIP, i made test firmware for this - http://4pda.ru/forum/attach/1592182/n560.128mb.rar
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Can you tell us how to patch WM6 to make this work?
Google translate is not doing a very good job, so the 2.5V and 1.8V is not an issue?
Any news on the RAM upgrade detail??
After upgrading my loox n560 to 128 MB ram i need a patched WM6 version.
Is there anyone who can explain me how to patch the MK.exe or have anyone a patched WM6 version ?
Greats from Germany
Cyborger said:
After upgrading my loox n560 to 128 MB ram i need a patched WM6 version.
Is there anyone who can explain me how to patch the MK.exe or have anyone a patched WM6 version ?
Greats from Germany
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i think freepk's earlier post mentioned something about a patch. have you tried that?
Also, can you tell us where you were able to buy the ram and the technique you used to swap them?
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i think freepk's earlier post mentioned something about a patch. have you tried that?
Also, can you tell us where you were able to buy the ram and the technique you used to swap them?
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I found a repair center in Germany for upgrading my ram. The Rom from freepk's is still WM5 and it works but i want upgrade my WM back to WM6 so i need a how to patch the mk.exe or a ready to go WM6 Rom with the patch included.
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I found a repair center in Germany for upgrading my ram. The Rom from freepk's is still WM5 and it works but i want upgrade my WM back to WM6 so i need a how to patch the mk.exe or a ready to go WM6 Rom with the patch included.
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That's a fantastic idea to find a repair center to upgrade the ram!!! by the way, how much did you pay to get the upgrade done?
about the patch, i don't know the exact solution, but here's what I found http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128MBRAM. seems like tweaking the NK.exe in the ROM is the way to go.... perhaps try contacting newplow on his website for the WM6 series about it.
Keep us updated for any developments!
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That's a fantastic idea to find a repair center to upgrade the ram!!! by the way, how much did you pay to get the upgrade done?
about the patch, i don't know the exact solution, but here's what I found http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_128MBRAM. seems like tweaking the NK.exe in the ROM is the way to go.... perhaps try contacting newplow on his website for the WM6 series about it.
Keep us updated for any developments!
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Hi Skyline
I payed 79€ for the upgrade.
I already asked newplow about the guest book some days ago for an patched WM6 version but the translation from Russian to English about Google is very bad. So i'm not sure what he really answered. I think the best way is when freepk tell us how to patch the mk.exe.
128mb Upgrade For N560
Could I send my n560 from uk to germany for this upgrade and could I contact them first . Do you have a email address or just a address cheers also does yours work and did your system recognise it. how did you get it to work?
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Could I send my n560 from uk to germany for this upgrade and could I contact them first . Do you have a email address or just a address cheers also does yours work and did your system recognise it. how did you get it to work?
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Hi RAYMOND A
Here is the URL from the repair center : http://www.srsgmbh.de/index_.html
After the Ram upgrade made by the repair center you have to flash the ROM yourself to an patched wm5 version. I'm pretty sure i used the ROM from freekpk (look for the attachment on the first side).
Loox Memory Upgrade
Thanks ,Why didnt you go for a 256mb upgrade and will the system recognise it?
As i can read on the translated Russian side (http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=75722) the are incompatibilities between the 128MB and the 64MB chips.
I am a WM6 user (Faman 3.3 light), I have tried may other firmwares (6.0 or 6.1) but I am facing the same issue with all of them: some programs need a lot of memory (RAM, not storage) to be executed.
Since I have been using Igo 8, this becomes crucial as this software is really great but requires a lot of RAM... (I have already ran out of memory when giving a phone call whith Igo guiding on a long trip!).
Currently with my Faman firmware, after a cold start I have 27,5Mb free RAM. I have only one tiny today plug-in - Metrix - to adjust the backlight.
Has anybody found a firmware that would allow to have more free RAM?
OR
Do you have solutions, tweaks, or softwares to increase that amount of memory?
Again I am not talking about the storage memory, but only the program memory or RAM.
Thx!
Hello, you could try another backlight manager that doesn't need a today plugin but a short cut ( on a hardware button) like this one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=379270
Perhaps you can use from time to time the OXIOS apps ( freeram and appkiller).
Hope it help you.
Those softwares only free up the memory which has been allocated.
My goal is to free more RAM at the system level to increase the available amount I have after a cold start.
Thanks anyway for your answer.
Any other idea?
click_fr said:
Those softwares only free up the memory which has been allocated.
My goal is to free more RAM at the system level to increase the available amount I have after a cold start.
Thanks anyway for your answer.
Any other idea?
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You can't do it unless you cook your own ROM, but I haven't seen any Trinity ROM that has more than 28-29 MB free RAM.
Hi,
I have tried lot of roms (wm6, wm6.1) but wm6.1 are really bad in RAM i think...
So I use Schaps 4.30 wm6 rom !!! I think it's great. RAM at start: 28-29mb !!
I have SPB Mobile Shell 2.00 on my Trinity, which need lot ram, but no problem.
I start in this case with about 26-27mb ram and I never seen message on igo8: Memory full or something error. I can call, speak on phone and see my way on igo8 in the SAME TIME !!
I think, this is the best Trinity ROM: Schaps 4.30 wm6 FULL
so, if we cook own rom, we can allocate more mem? so igot to search more .. maybe..
Here you go
Take a look if this helps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386948
Yes we have it
It's not new but stable and have big storage and ram
HTC Trinity WM 6.0 "SuperLight" от XTreme
see here
After install the ROM-
programm-31.75Mb(i have after fist boot 32mb)
storage-80.90mb
xtreme-light-3.71.09t-wwe.zip
Wow fantastic
lukost said:
It's not new but stable and have big storage and ram
HTC Trinity WM 6.0 "SuperLight" от XTreme
see here
After install the ROM-
programm-31.75Mb(i have after fist boot 32mb)
storage-80.90mb
xtreme-light-3.71.09t-wwe.zip
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but can i ask is this an English Rom or..............?
thanks
queer~dude said:
but can i ask is this an English Rom or..............?
thanks
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WWE is english... on the last link of lukost. Thanks for it!
lukost said:
It's not new but stable and have big storage and ram
HTC Trinity WM 6.0 "SuperLight" от XTreme
see here
After install the ROM-
programm-31.75Mb(i have after fist boot 32mb)
storage-80.90mb
xtreme-light-3.71.09t-wwe.zip
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Big Thanks for this Rom, Stable and fast !! I'm very happy with it...If, there is a newer build with the same Ram available...I'm on it ...
Maybe a 3.71.10 soon ??!!
hi all
in my BA changing the pagepool increase dramatclly the device performance.
does anyone know how much page pool the Diamond has?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276630
Aviad
Interesting.
I just had blown off the dust of my Magician and ran Igo8 on that ... never seen a navigation-program RUN SO DARN FAST. It has I guess 25fps during navigation, where diamond has .. 4?
So, reading about the WM2003 performances in that topic ...
unfortunitally, after my kid bite my BA, I deleted all the files I had for the BA and I can't find the setoperator.bat file anymore anywhere in the network or XDA
it will be great if the gurus of this forum could check this point and maybe we all going to get a small rocket in our pockets
Is there any tool for viewing and changing the pagepool size for Diamond ROMs ???
adotan said:
hi all
in my BA changing the pagepool increase dramatclly the device performance.
does anyone know how much page pool the Diamond has?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276630
Aviad
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I think it has 12MB , Because in a config file when building rom , i found a entry called set_diamond_page12M=1 !!!
Yes. Def PP is 12 MB
I tryed to disable PP and got 123 mb of available RAM.
Then got a very cool device speed) but free memory was only about 55 mb on full rom. so that is useless trick)
mun_rus said:
Yes. Def PP is 12 MB
I tryed to disable PP and got 123 mb of available RAM.
Then got a very cool device speed) but free memory was only about 55 mb on full rom. so that is useless trick)
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hi bro, i have one dumb question... where to disable that? while rom building or in registry
GPSSlovakia said:
Is there any tool for viewing and changing the pagepool size for Diamond ROMs ???
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
@ruffruff: download the tool and you'll get your answer.
^.^
adwinp said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=323269
@ruffruff: download the tool and you'll get your answer.
^.^
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Diamond has another mechanism of PP changing. So this tool wont work.
HI~mun_rus..how can change diamond PP?? THX
Hi!
Anybody succeeded to find the tool for changing pagepool size on Diamond ?
from what I remember while chaning the PP at BA ROMs
the change was done on the .nb file - even for the WM 6.1 versions
so it sound strange to me that the diamond has a diffrent window mechnism
mun_rus said:
Diamond has another mechanism of PP changing. So this tool wont work.
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This tool works absolutely fine, i used the 1.93.405.1 rom (official uk) which had a 6mb pagepool, and now has a 0mb pagepool and runs like a rocket...
Try it, it definitely works, had no problems for the last 12 hours...
Amz
Changing PP to 0 is better?
I saw that the SpeedUP TOR Rom uses 64MB PP size and is supposed to be quite fast as well?
amzchhabra said:
This tool works absolutely fine, i used the 1.93.405.1 rom (official uk) which had a 6mb pagepool, and now has a 0mb pagepool and runs like a rocket...
Try it, it definitely works, had no problems for the last 12 hours...
Amz
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PP set to 0 ??? Really?
TOR 2.0 has a dynamic PagePool (0mb), TOR 2.1 has a 64MB PagePool...
I am currently running 1.93.405.1 with NetCF 3.5 installed via CAB and made default using NetCFCfg.exe... I am running a 0mb PagePool and I have tweaked the rom using DiamondTweak 0.5 setting all TF3D and Performance Tweaks on "advised"
My phone feels superb, quick, stable, and the best bit about it is that it is OEM in appearance which is what I want!
I did run SPB Benchmark and to be honest the values I got were low, but I have never seen my Diamond run so smoothly, even with some of the "Premier Cooked" roms found in this forum...
Now if I can work out how to cook NetCF 3.5 into the rom it will be perfect!
Amz
amzchhabra said:
Now if I can work out how to cook NetCF 3.5 into the rom it will be perfect!
Amz
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Just take a look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=413782
and you'll find the answer
Good luck!
amzchhabra said:
This tool works absolutely fine, i used the 1.93.405.1 rom (official uk) which had a 6mb pagepool, and now has a 0mb pagepool and runs like a rocket...
Try it, it definitely works, had no problems for the last 12 hours...
Amz
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but will this work with a cooked ROM? as some of the chefs apparently lock their ROMs.
I think it will only work on a ROM that is not protected.... Try Panosha 1.8
I noticed other Chef's are releasing ROM's with different page pools configured so you can try which one you like...
Using Panoshas 1.8 with PP set to 0mgbs
Speed is amazing, up till now no probs.
And again I dont run more than 2 progs at the time. Max 3.
Set to close with X.
WM6.5 V3.00.707.50 - HTC TRINITY
CE OS 5.2.21231 Build 21231.5.0.1
ROM WM6.5 V50
link :-
http://rapidshare.com/files/233251358/TRIN_WM6.5__3_00_707_50__B21231.rar
pass :- PhamQuang
Thanks to PhamQuang , its agood rom
downloading
Will try it over the weekend. Will be a hard one to beat Chanvi's 21501... but worth trying as there is no other WM6.5 to test currently...
BigE
Dynamic page pool, only 19M free RAM
First impression- it seems this rom has a page pool set to zero. Although the phone is amazingly fast, It has only 20M free RAM initially, without trying to install anything. Also- the memory vary down to 16M from time to time without any open app. SKTOOLS makes it 21M but it is too low for my needs. I have changed PP to be 2M and will re-flash and report.
Besides that, from 4 minutes playing with it, very nice look and feel. Will keep posting results soon.
BigE
Great ROM but not for me
So sorry to say that, but I can't have a use of this rom. i love everything about it, really, It is well cooked, with everything i need and very little to add.
But it has too much RAM occupied all the time. I tried canceling tasks and gain memory and it does not get enough free RAM for me. To begin with only 48M RAm are available (Chanvi gets 51M) and about 65%-66% is taken at all times without any plugin. iGO will not run properly with less than 20M RAM free. I am short 4-5M to be happy, so although i really think it is one hack of a rom, I can't use it for my needs.
If you don't need memory like i am- I recommend it. Best SIP/Keyboard and GUI I have seen up to date... just memory kills me.
BigE
nice feedback bigE!
very informative
Last V49 was good and I believe that this one is good too. I am against mixing of Manila2D and Titanium especially for Trinity. We need as much free RAM and Storage as we can get. So there is no need to have two interfaces. I tried to contact PhamQuang but without any success so am asking you people especially you arnooo to try to arrange with PhamQuang to cook Titanium only ROM.
Thanks.
Guys, if you want to have a lot of free RAM, my advice is stop using Manila2D or TF3D especially on WM 6.5!
The rom has a bug "RING TONE" - This ring tone file is corrupted or unavaible please choose a different ring tone .. the ring tone are all corruped
malamen123 said:
The rom has a bug "RING TONE" - This ring tone file is corrupted or unavaible please choose a different ring tone .. the ring tone are all corruped
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cool nathing wrong , no bugs . the file running smoothly . cross check again .
Ring tone file is "corrupted" I reinstall again and still same!
RAM
tomme45i said:
Guys, if you want to have a lot of free RAM, my advice is stop using Manila2D or TF3D especially on WM 6.5!
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Ahhh, great advice. I don't use CHome, M2D and SPB when I need RAM freed. I turn today plugins off when I need memory yet even as 'naked' this rom is about 10M short of memory. Chanvi has cooked some better memory sensitive roms than that. However- as far as GUI and beauty, I like this one better. So in the matter of chosing between beauty and memory, alas, I chose Chanvi's.
There is no one Oz. of criticism here. Just an opinion.
BigE
This is a great rom I have had a good play with quite a few now and this one seems to be the better one as far as speed. I had a few problems with getting tomtom 7.9 to work but over come these all ok now.
GREAT WORK.
I tried to install this rom from as much as 4 different computers running XP and Vista, and could not flash. Every time the RUU gives me the Error 200 saying I must update the flashing tool. I tried the same ROM image with different RUU versions and none of them seems to work.
Am I missing something??
Thanks!!
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I tried to install this rom from as much as 4 different computers running XP and Vista, and could not flash. Every time the RUU gives me the Error 200 saying I must update the flashing tool. I tried the same ROM image with different RUU versions and none of them seems to work.
Am I missing something??
Thanks!!
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Probably a corrupt download? Just guessing...
SuperSport said:
Probably a corrupt download? Just guessing...
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downloaded it twice from different pc-s, different networks must be something else
It works grat. I really like the look, and it's really fast. Only problem is that it eats too much memory. I hope newer version will be bit more optimized.
egster said:
downloaded it twice from different pc-s, different networks must be something else
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Do you have SPL and radio rom updated. Try this link http://trinityguides.info , and try to update this first.
Do you have p3600 or p3600(I)? Very important!
This ROM is for P3600.
Regards,
Pozdrav drug Slovenac
I am currently running an older version of WM6.5 and did all upgrades before with no problems at all.
Radio: 1.56.70.11
SPL: SPR-1.20.Olipro
Thanks!
Pa pozdrav nazaj
Maybe something happened with that SPL. The last thing that I can suggest to you is to try to flash the HARD SPL again. Im using Des' Crash-Proof SPL and I think that I also had a problem with the Olipro.
Do you flashing from the three color screen or from the booted device?
Tried both, from bootloader and booted device :S I will now try to install this Hard-SPL you suggested and the new V51 rom