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I am getting started with the Blue angel (O2 Xda IIs)
I like it a lot this will probably become my best buddy during my travels
I intend to use it for business purposes, mainly Internet through
Wifi and GPRS, pdf and offices documents.
I saw on this forum that you advise to change from WM 2003SE to Windows Mobile 6 (the last published by Microsoft)
-My question is: This PDA is already a bit old now, is it going to work smoothly wit the very last OS, which is designed for more recent PDAs (i.e which should be more efficient).
I mainly want to use it for Internet, wich browser do you recommend ?
Internet explorer? Opera Mobile? Opera Mini? other browser?
By the way what is the difference between Opera Mobile and Opera Mini
1. I propose you to search for information about differences between 2003 and wm5/6. Ity is hudge.
2. Look for problems you might encounter after update (not to be suprised). WM5 was never officially prepared and unleashed for BA, so it's straightforward and problem-free, but it works fine after all, if you know what you are doing.
3. Yes, WM5, WM6 and even WM6 work fine on BA (with some usual small problems). Speed is very good and much better than many other devices (for example my HTC Hermes is MUUUUCH slower that BA).
4. It's worth updating mostly because new software is usually not compatibile with PPC2003 any more.
5. Browsers: you have to test and decide on your own what you need, how you want it be feed and what are your restictions (speed, security). Like there is no one car for everyone (apart from Ford T) there is also no one browser for everyone. Test, try and choose on your own. You have the choice now (IE, Opera Mobile, Opera Mini, Netfront and 2 other experimental based on WebKit).
Opera mini is a java applet: you request a page, it is prerendered on proxy server in Norway (at Opera) and send back to your phone in scaled down version. Cheaper, faster, but less secure (never use it for your online banking). Works on virtually any java-enabled cell phone with internet access.
Opera Mobile is full Windows Mobile browser that downloads and renders everything directly on your phone. Worth trying, especially upcoming 9 series looks promising (alphas are already circulating on XDA forums).
This is a beta of the new browser from netfront. It lets you use touch movements. Kinda like Safari for the iphone. here is the linkhttp://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
I am loving so far.
Enjoy
Was released quite some time ago. Yes, its better than any other browser including opera.
I even wrote a video review here.
Regards,
Carty..
link is dead!
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link is dead!
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I think the whole company is dead - or gone to a totally different distribution model. Can still download 3.5 concept version, but nothing else.
Can't find any commercial versions to buy anywhere on the web, either.
They seem to have gone into partnership with NTT and only make for OEMs now, mainly Linux OS's. Real shame if we can't get a WM5/6 version. It's the best browser out there at the moment with some great functionality.
If only the concept version had plug-ins enabled then I could live with that version. 3.4 was also great until 29 Feb when it's timebomb activated.
I now see that Opera 9 was actually better. Only bad thing is that, at the moment there is only a VGA version. Works awesome on Athena. Since there is 128 MB RAM in Athena, I can't really comment on anything about Opera's memory usage. Maybe I'll try having a deeper look at it sometime later. Opera will win ofcourse.
HTC has chosen Opera too. Their new Diamond is supposed to have a customized version of Opera 9 in ROM! Awesome
Regards,
Carty..
I'm using this browser also but unfortunately I can't say it's a great one.
my browser detail: v3.5. BuildNo: 435. Beta version: No
anybody need the cab installer of it?
Sure, if it's different than what's on their website.
Net Front Browser 3.5
here you go
http://rapidshare.com/files/113649004/NFB.zip.html
Love this Browser
I love this browser! smooth, and almost fast. But easy to use on the fly...
I found this link from a russian site, not sure what version it is, but here ya go:
http://depositfiles.com/en/files/3497906
I stumbled upon a new Mobile Browser for our HTC Dash, its called UCWEB Super Browser v6.0.1. While it is still a Beta, it is very stable (has not crached or froze up yet and I've been using it for a few days), it is very fast, has TONS of options and well (I hate to say it) is a bit better then Opera Mobile. It works flawlessly with Google (like Googles new "my location" feature on mobile search, GMail and others where Opera does not work or only half works. Security is very good and its fast as heck in rendering (it renders pages on the device not a remote server) pages and gives you the option of preformating to your devices screen size.
A quick feature summery:
Main Features:
• FREEWARE - Its free cant get better then that
• Adaptation for small screen
• Data traffic statistics
• Visited history
• Domain name quickly input
• Supporting multi-formatted file
• Supporting web local-storage
• Multi-windows browsing
• Page dynamic optimization
• Picture optimizing display
• Shortcut Keys (user defined)
• RSS Feed Subscriptions
• Built in E-mail Client for POP3 and IMAP, full support for attachments
• Comprehensive search features (user definable)
• Download Manager - Resume broken download connections
• Personal Data Manager - Saves web sites to your device, export bookmarks
All in all I give it a solid 9 out of 10 (and its still in Beta)
Check it out here: UCWEB Super Browser v6.0.1 beta
Download the Windows Mobile 5 and 6 CAB file here: UCWEB Super Browser for WM 5 & 6
Crashes Dash on first try will install to phone mem and give a try.
No such luck just shows a black bar @ top and crashes phone
I can't get it to load after installing the cab. Freed up memory and closed everything in task. Hmmm when I get time I'll try again. I checked out the website and phone model not supported. They have a generic option. What phone did you select Keith?
I download the HP -> iPAQ 512 and installed fine.
Could be that the cab Keith upload got corrupted.
*Thanks to NRG for suggesting compatible phone to Dash*
Mikey1022 said:
I download the HP -> iPAQ 512 and installed fine.
Could be that the cab Keith upload got corrupted.
*Thanks to NRG for suggesting compatible phone to Dash*
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Which one did you go for as there is 2 with different file names?
http://wap.ucweb.com/dl_platform/publish/scripts/mobiledetail.php?project_code=100&mobileid=3000
Or could you just media share the file please.
Thanks in advance
Honestly...you're not hip to the Chinese language?? wow
I honestly flipped a coin and picked 2. lol
Here you go
Update: Although playing with it, not knowing if that is the right picking, it is a bit buggy.
I installed the generic, Java. I like that a whole lot better.
Maybe Keith can enlighten us on picking the right phone for our Excaliburs.
Yeah I installed the java generic earlier today and it worked fine but the Chinese is a killer. It makes you crave rice...
It's quicker than skyfire but not so sure it's faster than mini.
I'll try the HP cab.
Mikey1022 said:
Honestly...you're not hip to the Chinese language?? wow
I honestly flipped a coin and picked 2. lol
Here you go
Update: Although playing with it, not knowing if that is the right picking, it is a bit buggy.
I installed the generic, Java. I like that a whole lot better.
Maybe Keith can enlighten us on picking the right phone for our Excaliburs.
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Nice one, how did you know which Java one to get? Or was it lucky dip again?
Look @ this for a translation http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translat...pts/webcommon.php&lp=zt_en&btnTrUrl=Translate
rather funny
i didnt download the cab
i did it through wap site on phone
I saw "English" and clicked on it and it translate the steps.
Any idea if this works over t-zones??.....
Visit the wap site with your phone http://wap.ucweb.com . I downloaded mine directly from the wap site and it autodetected my Dash (I run 6.1 Kav by the way) and I had no problems. The above CAB is for WM 5 or 6, I guess it looks like it wont work on 6.1 or perhaps the CAB got messed up on upload.. I'll reupload it.
this is what you want right?
the Dopod 720w is the same as the Dash so this is the version you want am i correct?
also acording to translation the first download link is the most current version where as the second link is last stable.
I find that the fist link does not work however the second link works. (as far as running the programm goes)
i must also say its very beautiful nice find, its fast like opera mini but functional like skyfire of corse sacrific on both but meets in the middle somewhere.
The English version works fine on my HTC Touch Pro (Raphael). Up to yesterday, the file name for HTC Diamond (should be OK for Touch Pro I believe) is:
UCWEB6-61-300-31-08081214.cab
Chinese HTC is re-branded as Dopod or 多普达, Touch Diamand is calleds900.
I love the browser not just because I speak Chinese but for its unmatched features that not found with other browsers. But I don't put all my eggs in one basket, BTW.
It can use vodafone's 3G high speed Internet or Wifi (not USB with ActiveSync ).
The function that I would like to have in future versions is Flash!
Thx for the info on ucweb
thx bupahs ucweb is awesome i like it more than opera mini,more options plus when i edit my cpr file my font is the font for all applications in ucweb ,cool
It took me several tries to get the right version from their website. First I should have scrolled down to where I could switch the language to English. Instead, I downloaded the first one that appeared to be for a Windows Mobile SP. It turned out to be the latest Chinese version and even the chinese characters wouldn't show up on my phone.
Then I installed a Windows version, but I got warnings that it wasn't for my phone. It worked anyways, but I did want to get rid of the warning so I tried again. I recall someone mentioning that the HTC Dash and the Dopod C720W are the same. So I found that particular version and it is really fast! It's amazing as well that it's running natively and not as a Java App.
Uninstalling the other incorrect versions didn't go so smoothly though. The icons remained in Start/Programs. Therefore, I restored my phone from an earlier backup and then reinstalled the UCWeb browser.
Thanks again for this great find!
Thank you,
Tim
Screenshots are a must!!!!
UCWEB....
I downloaded,works great except for streaming videos.Says i need the latest version of flash player....when i try to update,it asks what OS i have.i`m not sure which to pick...I feel stupid but can i get alittle help?A link maybe? Thanks in advance.....
i have to say this is my new favorite web browser.
Definitely a great browser so far! It's quick, renders well, and is very flexible (options-wise).
the only thing i don't like is that i can't see facebook like in opera mini otherwise is awsome
i have the latest version 6.3
Wondering if anyone has been able to install and successfully operate opera mini. This is one of my favorite browsers. When I installed the cab file it didnt load. I then went to the site and tried to download it and it would not open. If anyone has been able to do this or if you are able to find a solution I would be very grateful if you posted a working cab of the browser here in this thread. Thanks in advance!
Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks. hold on while i find the cab for you
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download the Opera Mini - large fonts (VGA) cab and put on your phone. You don't need the opera mini tweaks.
This will install Jbed java manager & install Opera Mini for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398567
Thanks for the quick response. I went to the link and attempted downloading the cab. The cab file says its 2.90mb but for some reason my tp2 is only dling 1.37mb. So the cab is not working. Anyway you can post the cab file here so I can download it direct? I need another source cause that site isnt cooperating with my phone.
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
I have Opera Mobile. I would like Opera Mini. I just cant seem to download the entire cab from that site
unfortunately the cab is too big to upload. download it from that thread on to your computer & then move it to your phone
wow that sucks. i am going to try downloading it with my Kaiser then. My computer is currently down and awaiting repair so I am screwed for the moment. I cant even flash a new rom :-(
dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones
dkb218 said:
Try Opera Mobile Beta 9.7. It has Turbo. The thing is FAST!!!
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but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?
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but the zoom bar does not work. Any other way to zoom in?
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that's why i went with Mini, since the scroll bar doesn't work. Plus i love the syncing bookmarks feature.
I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.
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I just gave 9.7 beta a try and to be honest I didn' notice a speed boost over the Opera browser that already comes packaged with the tp2. Even with turbo on i noticed nothing. Also its a very glitchy beta version. I miss mini :-( I will probably try the 9.7 once its finished but I still believe mini is the fastest.
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I agree, the one that is installed is perfectly fine and you dont have to worry about all these bugs
Just wanted to thank you again for posting the cab. I was finally able to download it using internet exploer and its working great. Just my 2 cents, 3g plus opera mini equals fastest mobile internet experience ever only to be rivaled by wifi which is not so mobile.
You're welcome. I hear ya buddy, I like Opera Mini more than any of the other mobile browsers except Safari. I still use it even though I have full 3G & could Opera Mobile, but Mobile just sucks, right along with IE.
xnifex said:
Yes. it's my browser of choice, although the Jblend java manager sucks.
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What are the trade-offs between using Jblend vs. Jbed?
It's been a while since I've used Jbed. I remember it had a background mode, which Jblend still doesn't have. And I'm not crazy about how Jblend throws a wobbly when I change screen orientation.
But, beyond that I don't know how the Jblend version on the TP2 compares with the current Jbed. I haven't found any good comparisons that were less than a year or two old. Even the MIDlet Bible is out of date now.
I don't have a particular attachment to Jblend, but saying it "sucks" isn't a real compelling argument against it. Are there any real performance comparisons you're aware of between Jblend and other JVMs?
I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.
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+1 for this!
mini is for smaller and simpler smartphones
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I use mini instead of 9.7b w/ turbo.
Why:
Mini is an order of magnitude faster in real life.
9.7b is still buggy as hell, often crashing.
Scrolling on 9.7b is painfully slow and redraws take a long time compared to Mini Opera.
Granted, one must install the above linked JBED+signed Opera Mini+associated quick link to get anywhere near usable installation of Opera Mini, and even after that one has to tweak the font size.
But once this is done, there's no contenst - at least for me. Mini Opera is waaaay faster than Opera 9.7b with turbo enabled.
Faster is not always better
both mini and mobile are great versions of the browser
what I like more from mobile is that is more complete more similar to a laptop browser, yes mini is faster but I still prefer opera mobile!
I have plenty of free memory and RAM to run it smoothly
And let´s wait to have the final stable release! that would be great!
just my opinion,
Mini is not just a little bit faster, its a lot faster. At least for me it is. Sure Mobile has more of a desktop look and feel and offers a more complete webpage experience. Thing is I dont need all the fancy flash animations and things of that nature when I am just trying to quickly check a website like this forum. I have both mini and mobile in case I have a problem with a certain site and even mobile gave me problems which made me resort to IE just to download a cab file.
I do have one problem though. Anyway to make the images larger on mini? I dled the hi res version as suggested and now all pics and certain buttons are very tiny. I tried settings and changed the image quality but this did nothing for the image size. Any solution?
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I base my statement off the fact that if you open/close the keyboard, the whole thing crashes/resets/whatever... That right there was the deal breaker.
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Yeah, that's definitely a nuisance, but so far it hasn't been a deal breaker for me. I use TouchPal as an on-screen keyboard most of the time, although I wouldn't give up the TP2 keyboard...when I feel the need for it, it's great. I still don't know if I'd label Jblend with "sucks", since I don't know how its performance compares overall, but if I changed orientations a lot when browsing and had to keep re-running Opera Mini, I'd be switching JVMs too!
Opera just released Opera Mini 5 for Windows Mobile requiring no Java. It runs a lot faster than the Java version and doesnt have that big annoying keyboard as an option. It also automatically connects your data connection taking away any lag when starting up and selecting a bookmark. Here are 3 downloads. A CAB, and an OEM or EXT package for Chefs. OEM for Build OS, EXT for Visual Kitchen.
Opera Mini 5 for Windows Mobile CAB
Opera Mini 5 for Windows Mobile OEM
Opera Mini 5 for Windows Mobile EXT
Enjoy!
thanks cooking [email protected]
Had read bad things about the non Java version but in fact works a lot better, always had mini 5 java version crash on me to the point i'm using 4.2 signed still
Thanks will cook in and test some more
stylez said:
Had read bad things about the non Java version but in fact works a lot better, always had mini 5 java version crash on me to the point i'm using 4.2 signed still
Thanks will cook in and test some more
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Yea I hear you on the 5 java version, it would either crash or get stuck in memory. I am pleased with the non java version for sure though. Let me know how it goes I havent cooked it in yet. Just using the CAB.
I have the OLD I mean Old Tmobile SDA and it works the only downside is that you need a qwerty key board in your phone, otherwise you can only type numbers... Kinda sad but if you really want it to use it bad just use windword and copy and paste your words... lol
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I have the OLD I mean Old Tmobile SDA and it works the only downside is that you need a qwerty key board in your phone, otherwise you can only type numbers... Kinda sad but if you really want it to use it bad just use windword and copy and paste your words... lol
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Thats a shame buddy, just look for a newer device on ebay and flash it for tmobile. You should be able to score at least a touch screen pda for 100 or less.
Edit: I just checked and seems you should be able to use a number pad to type with this version. This is taken from the multitapbream.ini file included in the install.
Code:
[MultiTap_abc]
KEY0=" 0"
KEY1=./,[email protected]&~!_'"1+-()%:=
KEY2=abc2
KEY3=def3
KEY4=ghi4
KEY5=jkl5
KEY6=mno6
KEY7=pqrs7
KEY8=tuv8
KEY9=wxyz9
[MultiTap_ABC]
KEY0=" 0"
KEY1=./,[email protected]&~!_'"1+-()%:=
KEY2=ABC2
KEY3=DEF3
KEY4=GHI4
KEY5=JKL5
KEY6=MNO6
KEY7=PQRS7
KEY8=TUV8
KEY9=WXYZ9
[MultiTap_123]
KEY0=0
KEY1=1
KEY2=2
KEY3=3
KEY4=4
KEY5=5
KEY6=6
KEY7=7
KEY8=8
KEY9=9
Just re-did all the files so that it installs into the windows directory. I was unsure if that was possible but I just confirmed it. This will save space!
cooked in my manila 2012 rom, works fine so far. no annoying pop up windows asking to connect.
Is there anywya to make this my default browser instead of IE in manila?
RyanMogul6800 said:
Yea I hear you on the 5 java version, it would either crash or get stuck in memory. I am pleased with the non java version for sure though. Let me know how it goes I havent cooked it in yet. Just using the CAB.
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Works a treat cooked in not stalled on me once Didn't change location to WinDir for .cab read your post after cooking just a good job plenty of storage space in TouchPro
Haven't noticed anything different regards data usage.
Impressed
is there a possibility to cange the font size... i mean not in the menue. the "small" letters are still to big...
how do i make sense 2.5 internet tab load this by default? it still opens 9.7 when i press the globe, a link, or search
login glitches!
nice try man! but test it thoroughly on your device because the biggest problem of opera mini 5 is that it cannot get you logged in to some of your online accounts. i been using that for a week but stii have no success. even if i switched connection to socket or http.
but still... good luck!
ebautista said:
nice try man! but test it thoroughly on your device because the biggest problem of opera mini 5 is that it cannot get you logged in to some of your online accounts. i been using that for a week but stii have no success. even if i switched connection to socket or http.
but still... good luck!
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Works fine for me, 3 different forums, online banking, phone account, ebay, and paypal all work for me.
opera mini keypad problem
Hi RyanMogul6800!
can u pls tell me how to edit the file multitapbream.ini and where to find it
i also have da same problem with om5wm..it only accept numbers, cant type the letters. thank buddy.
Hey Ryan, is it up to Opera to release a new Mini 5.1 cab that doesn't require java, or is it something you can cab up?
Excellently working, but I've a question ..
Both Opera 9.7 & Opera 10 can read Arabic words/sentences normally after installing my language package, but Opera Mini shows them in reverse & with letters unconnected. Is it possible that someone knows what how to get over this? Noting that Opera Mini could read Arabic normally on my previous Symbian phones (Nokia).
Thanks in advance.
Is it possible to have English UI when the Reginal Setting in the handset is in another Language like Opera 9.7
Opera Mini 5 + Extra options
do you want to try my opera mini? I hope you like it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=781203