HOWTO: Bypass activation and use your old simcard. (pics) - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Just unboxed my TP2 (photos are in <here>, in case you're interested).
I decided that I'll skip this whole new simcard activation nonsense.. Now, whether they will disable my old simcard or not - I don't know. If they will, I will activate my new simcard then.
So, the problem is that AT&T is trying to be "cute" with us - they glued a piece of plastic on top of the simcard and somehow disabled the simcard locking mechanism from unlocking the simcard.
Meh, nothing a Victorinox pocket knife can't fix.
DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK. I'm not responsible for anything, YOU ARE.
Here is how to remove it and stick an old simcard in:
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Here's proof that it worked right after a reset (3G, HSDPA is not enabled by default, I presume):
Hope this helps someone.

What is AT&T's motivation for doing this? Is the phone perhaps arriving from HTC unlocked?
Why would AT&T want to go through the needless, employee-centric hassle of activating a new sim card, when I could simply stick my old one in it?
I don't get it?

XATAGuy said:
What is AT&T's motivation for doing this? Is the phone perhaps arriving from HTC unlocked?
Why would AT&T want to go through the needless, employee-centric hassle of activating a new sim card, when I could simply stick my old one in it?
I don't get it?
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No idea.. My old simcard works perfectly fine.. and it's actually about 4 years old (2 contracts).. I'm keepin' my $19/mo unlim data for as long as I can.

why are you using a knife to remove the sim card? you can easily remove the card by following the directions on the huge picture bext to the sim card by using the stylus to slide out the sim card.

Ludacrisvp said:
why are you using a knife to remove the sim card? you can easily remove the card by following the directions on the huge picture bext to the sim card by using the stylus to slide out the sim card.
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You mean the picture under the battery?
It doesn't slide out like that.. Did it work for you on Tilt2?

Dunno about the tape, but it is pretty hard to get the SIM out of the Q9h.
(nope, it does not have the unlock mechanism either) I just press down on the actual SIM & slide it out as much as I can with friction and then insert my nails into the slots on the side of the SIM and pull it out..
Pretty much standard procedure on most phones - the unlock mechanism, etc cost $$ and have been taken out on a lot of phones - welcome to cheapo manufacturing..
Still waiting anxiously for my Tilt2 - will report how this works there..

DarkDvr said:
You mean the picture under the battery?
It doesn't slide out like that.. Did it work for you on Tilt2?
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Yes, I am referring to the picture under the battery.
There is a little hole above the SIM card that you poke your stylus into and use that to push out the SIM card. Works fine on the Touch Pro2 Verizon, there is no difficulty in that method at all.

motoq9h said:
Still waiting anxiously for my Tilt2 - will report how this works there..
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Didn't want to use my stylus. Used this:
Came out very easily..
Note: the tip is blunted/bent.. Do that to avoid inadvertent scratches

Yeah my sim card came out easily using the little hole for the stylus.
I guess AT&T just wanted to cover that "ugly" piece of metal lol.

If the SIM card is taped down and extra difficult to remove, then maybe that is how they are enforcing the new data plan requirements.
As has been pointed out though, I have the unlocked Touch Pro 2 and I have to use the stylus to remove the SIM card. No tape holding it down though, that's pretty weird.

Just use the hole above the SIM card slot. Took me a little to figure it out because I was so used to sliding the card out the normal way.

i personally was never told to activate my phone. the day i got it i called the business line and they said i could use the new sim or the old one and keep the new one as a backup(which i did). and i don't think they tried to make them hard to remove because it's the same for the gsm tp2. you have to use the stylus.

Got mine this morning, and it had no tape and no little lock tab. Popped it out exactly like the instructions showed, and slid in the old one. Worked beautifully.

LOL yeah you just poke your stylus in the little hole and "push" it out. No need for surgery...

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Dual sim software

I have a dual sim adapter fitted in my i-mate, to have my cake and eat it as it were, having loads of free minutes on a contract sim, and free texts on a pay as you go sim.
What I have been searching for unsuccessfully is a piece of software which will let me select the sim I want to use, rather than turning the phone (Flight mode) on and off. Has anyone come across such a piece of software? Is the i-mate already capable of this feature?
Thanks for your assistance.
Where did you found that dual sim adapter, I still need one.
try this one...
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tnx I'll try
not sure if this will help but .........
http://www.2-phones-in-1.com/index.html
shows a picture in there download section which looks like an options menu to do just what your asking. Maybe the web owner could shed some light.
Would like to know the answer myself as this would solve the problem of carrying 2 phones (my own and a work phone)
cheers
Goog
Software soon available at www.wivit.com
I bought that King of Double from SaintJoy, but it doesn't fit! Has anyone have a solution?
They do fit but i agree there could be a better solution , the little ribbon cable you get could be alot longer.
Anyway to fit it, you have to release the sim card lock thing then carefully pull the plastic clip off the hinges that it fits to.
Then slide the double card adapter in with the ribbon cable pointing to the bottom.
now flip the cable back over the side of the clip and replace the plastic sim clip back onto its hinges.
lock the sim down with the slide lock.
Replace the battery but make sure the ribbon cable goes over the side of the battery, so that it fits on top of the battery while in use (i tried it underneath the battery and it hard reset my PDA, evey time you pressed slightly on the battery.)
now the top case plastic will be hard to get on now , but it does go down (with a struggle)
I can post pics if you need
P.S. to swap sims when the PDA is on, just select "Flight Mode on" then "Flight Mode off" again.
There is a thread http://www.ppcsg.com/index.php?showtopic=48824&hl=dual+sim you can refer to for more info.
The shop that sells the dual sim holder is at:
http://www.kenarservices.com/handphone-others.htm.
cheers,
Patrick
Danny-B- said:
They do fit but i agree there could be a better solution , the little ribbon cable you get could be alot longer.
Anyway to fit it, you have to release the sim card lock thing then carefully pull the plastic clip off the hinges that it fits to.
Then slide the double card adapter in with the ribbon cable pointing to the bottom.
now flip the cable back over the side of the clip and replace the plastic sim clip back onto its hinges.
lock the sim down with the slide lock.
Replace the battery but make sure the ribbon cable goes over the side of the battery, so that it fits on top of the battery while in use (i tried it underneath the battery and it hard reset my PDA, evey time you pressed slightly on the battery.)
now the top case plastic will be hard to get on now , but it does go down (with a struggle)
I can post pics if you need
P.S. to swap sims when the PDA is on, just select "Flight Mode on" then "Flight Mode off" again.
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This is what you need. My little brothers using one in his i-mate JAM. You will have to cut the SIM cards up to get it to fit but it works fine. It takes about 3-4 seconds to swtich over each SIM. Probably the easiest way. They should be available in just over a week.
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/6579.htm
16 SIM in one SIM
*i use this in my Himalaya and Blue Angel.
i can switch the numbers/carier when i need with STK.
Plese see the link(japanese site so just see the photo)
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/845414.html
this is useing sirial port to copy your sim to PC, then copy to SuperSIM.
it takes 6 hours or something for one sim copy. only SIM V,1 can copy.
*also tested 6 sim in one with usb as follow
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/2361582.html
only takes 40min for one SIM. also v1 sim is able.V2 sim cant(V2=large rom sim, 3G/2.5G or CDMA somelike high function)
*cut 2 sims rom and past on to one sim kit
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/932429.html
Re: Supersim 16 in 1
I use supersim too. It works fine. I have 8 number on it.
But I think you are not right! I can use 3G with V1 sim cards too!
I created a software for myself, so I can switch between the numbers using the hardware buttons.
Supersim is the best solution to use more number in a phone. But our country is not easy to get older sims (V1) - becouse I can only clone this cards or write to supersim.
ya, i knew some 3G can copy into Super sim, but all of them are not able to be done, some of the Carriers of 3G seems protect to copy,
Also some kinds of SIM will be broken if try to copy, so i had better say 3G is not copied. it safty for friends.
thanks.
Re: Supersim 16 in 1
I use a 3G network with my supersim. There is no problem with it.
I don't understand what does "copy 3G into Supersim" meen. Becouse I cloned my sim card to Supesim and I ordered the 3G from my network provider and it worked. Do you use the 3G? Or doesn't work it with your supersim?
yes i use hk csl 3G in my superSim. ok i should use another words. some of them can copy to super-s,some of them cant. not all of 3G cant. many japnese friends of mine tested with Thailand Sim,philipine sim, japan sim,Hk sim,china sim, vietnam sim, singarepole sim, some of them can use in supersim,some of them cant. depend on the cariers,or version of sim. or size of sim,and many of 3G sim cant. also big size memory sim cant,cdma either,edge either,japan vodafone either,ais either,all of philippines cariers sim either,generaly speaking,high version sim cant,lower version is can. just generaly, because i never tested sims all over the world.this is what i want say. hope u can understand what i want to say.
Re: Supersim 16 in 1
Ok. Ok. I understand! Thanks for the information!
Where can we buy the Supersim ?
it was from Taiwan company, but produced in china.
i only know it was sold in HongKon, Taiwan, China. but no idea in Europe,
Mr,freelovsky may know about it
i am also selling this, but i think the freight to europe is very costy. you had better find it in Europe.
I am using the King of DoubleCard dual sim adapter for more than a year now.
I fits a bit tight, but you dont have to cut sims!
Just recently I joined the Sim Status Switcher by www.wivit.com beta test program.
THIS is the software one needs for switching SIMs and always being able to see what SIM is active: It shows (apart for operator) the phone number too (so you can identify the active sim when roaming too) via a today plugin.
It has quite some options (see demo slides on the site).
Although it is still in beta, no real bugs are there. Hopefully it will be officially released soon.

[SOLUTION] for T989 user on Mobilicity network taking a long time to register

There was a thread (I can't seem to find it) from a bunch of Mobilicity subscribers that complain about this phone taking a very long time (5+ minutes) to register on Mobilicity's network after a reboot. I think I've come across with a solution. Go to a (different) store and pick up a new SIM card. Tell them the old SIM is defective.
Using my previous SIM it takes me a good 5+ minutes to register onto Mobi's network even if everything is set correctly, after I got my new SIM and tried it numerous times now, issue seems to be fixed. I haven't changed anything on my phone so I strongly suspect it's the new SIM that did the trick. It now takes around 10 seconds to find the network. Not as fast as registering to Rogers's network using a Rogers SIM (which is almost instant) but much better performance now.
YMMV but give it a try!
EDIT:
Remember, in phone settings set "WCDMA only" and dial *#*#2263#*#* to set "WCDMA 1700 preferred".
that's a good suggestion
i recall a similar scenario on my old Nexus S and using older SIMs will sometime has problems, then i got a new SIM, and all the issues went away.,
Do you think it's possible that this happens on Telus' network as well? It takes me a good 5 minutes after any reboot to get service. I've got my SIM card from my Motorola Milestone (December 2010) so I'm not sure if the SIM card is old or not.
any physical differences or markings on the newer sims?
madman604 said:
any physical differences or markings on the newer sims?
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No except for the lining pattern on the chip is different (not sure if that means anything).
And also I know it's definitely a different batch of SIM because the numbers pre-programmed in the SIM are different. Go to "SIMTookit" you'll see what's programmed in there.
The previous batch has "*TAXI" which the newer batch doesn't.
513263337 said:
No except for the lining pattern on the chip is different (not sure if that means anything).
And also I know it's definitely a different batch of SIM because the numbers pre-programmed in the SIM are different. Go to "SIMTookit" you'll see what's programmed in there.
The previous batch has "*TAXI" which the newer batch doesn't.
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My Telus SIM card doesn't have that, but I feel like it is affected just like your SIM Card, in terms of when I reboot, I have no service for a good 2-3 minutes..
513263337 said:
No except for the lining pattern on the chip is different (not sure if that means anything).
And also I know it's definitely a different batch of SIM because the numbers pre-programmed in the SIM are different. Go to "SIMTookit" you'll see what's programmed in there.
The previous batch has "*TAXI" which the newer batch doesn't.
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can you take a photo to compare?
madman604 said:
can you take a photo to compare?
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agreed, please and thanks
while mine does not say taxi, the gold part seems to have an X pattern. new or old?
skadude66 said:
Do you think it's possible that this happens on Telus' network as well? It takes me a good 5 minutes after any reboot to get service. I've got my SIM card from my Motorola Milestone (December 2010) so I'm not sure if the SIM card is old or not.
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they changed my SIM for my phone because i had an older one from november 09... all i know is that the chip on the new one is half the size of the older one.
kriEv said:
they changed my SIM for my phone because i had an older one from november 09... all i know is that the chip on the new one is half the size of the older one.
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It's a microSIM card?
no the sim is the same size. the gold connecter area is smaller.
madman604 said:
no the sim is the same size. the gold connecter area is smaller.
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Hmmm, does it cost anything to get a new SIM card? Not sure if I have the latest one or not. Or if it may even alleviate the issue.
Any way u could post a pick or gave us the numbers they use to start with?
Mine starts with 89302 32XXX XXXXX XX866 and I got it back in May I think, it may be before than that.
OLD SIM
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Does anyone have a better solution? It takes me 2min and 30sec to find mobi's signal. I would like to get it down to less than a min.
Worked like a CHARM! Many thanks for this simple yet effective fix. Now I've just got to find a Rom/Kernel/Radio combo to have my S2X get reception as well as my Mobi BB 9360.
Rom: CM9.1.0
Kernel: Default
Radio: TLLE4

Ion doesn't need micro-SIM

I haven't seen anyone mention it on XDA or anywhere else online, so I thought I'd put it out there for people picking up Ions used or as AT&T free phones. Most sites tell you to cut your standard SIM down to Micro, but there's an easier and less risky option, though you still might want to make a small mod to your old SIM. The Ion uses a small tray to hold the Micro-SIM, and that tray just happens to be near the exact dimensions of a standard sized SIM:
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The tray is a little thicker, but otherwise it's basically a Micro-SIM to SIM adapter (which negates any benefit of using Micro-SIM in the first place...no space is saved). I went ahead and took a chance and just slid my standard sized SIM down into the slot where the tray would go, after establishing with reasonable confidence that the contacts should line up--it was just a question of whether the SIM's thickness would fit securely enough to stay in good contact. And yes, it did. Once I got the card about halfway in, the slot gripped it firmly--there must be some sort of retractable mechanism in there putting pressure on whatever you insert.
One problem I recognized but decided not to worry about at the time is how to get the SIM out of there again. Only one little corner protrudes, so I'll be trying desperately to slide it out with a pencil eraser or something if I ever have to remove it. The simple solution would be to drill a small hole or make a notch in that corner of the card, which wouldn't compromise the card's functionality in any phone but would give you somewhere to grip.
or u can use tweezers to remove it.
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or u can use tweezers to remove it.
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Maybe, but I'm not too sure if you could get a grip even with tweezers. It's really a tiny corner that sticks out, and flush against the back of the slot.
I had the same problem when I got my ion and yes you can remove it with tweezers.
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use small amount of tape
I use a ion with small tape on sim card and it works fine, this way when I need to remove the sim I just pull the tape and it pulls the sim card.http://forum.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/tongue.gif
maksofiaol said:
I use a ion with small tape on sim card and it works fine, this way when I need to remove the sim I just pull the tape and it pulls the sim card.
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Now that's simple--wish I'd thought of it
Bleh
I got it set up that way two days ago. The owner wanted to strangle me for trying, but in the end even he can see the benefits.
IMHO, micro and nanosims are unnecessary. The space saved is minimal as to justify the different format. Like when they sold us non standard chargers and non standard hands free (oh, and non standard "data cables) remember?
pppppp said:
IMHO, micro and nanosims are unnecessary. The space saved is minimal as to justify the different format. Like when they sold us non standard chargers and non standard hands free (oh, and non standard "data cables) remember?
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It's maybe useful if you actually save the space, but in the Ion the unnecessary tray actually takes up slightly more space than a standard SIM. I can only guess that AT&T insisted on that format out of their usual twisted marketing philosophy that if you just introduce enough artificial constraints, the consumer will pay you more to f*** them more gently.

[Q] [SOLVED] Possibly damaged SIM slot?

In my Galaxy S4 mini's whole lifetime only twice has a micro sim been inserted. The first time I inserted a SIM card inside there, it worked immediatelly without any problems as soon as I powered on the phone (the sim card was cut from a normal one manually by me).
Then I left the phone unused without a SIM inside it for about 2 weeks and just today I tried to put back the same SIM card and the phone always displays "No SIM". Tried taking it on and off like a thousand times but still no effect.
The card is working on another phone but with an adapter as I don't have another phone that uses only Micro-SIM so I can't really test.
Any ideas?
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Here is an image of what the SIM looks like and how it is inserted. I would greatly appreciate if someone from here checks the exact form and placement of theirs and compare it to this image:
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Use an original uncut microsim
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Use an original uncut microsim
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Are you saying it could be possible that I just cut the SIM card badly? I'm planning on heading to the store and asking for an original Micro-SIM from my carrier but I'm afraid that might not be the solution and it would be a waste of money.
Yes, I would try it
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you can buy another if you think is broken from this link
http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/Rep...ung-Galaxy-S4-Mini-i9190-i9195-SAMF-I9190-05/
Or just ask a friend to check an original microsim
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you can buy another if you think is broken from this link
http://www.tvc-mall.com/details/Rep...ung-Galaxy-S4-Mini-i9190-i9195-SAMF-I9190-05/
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Wasn't expecting it to be that cheap to replace, thanks! :good:
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Or just ask a friend to check an original microsim
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Problem is, all of my friends use normal SIM.
I just watched a video how a person types a hidden code into the dialer which takes him to an advanced service mode and from there after choosing some options, the "No SIM" error immediatelly disappears even without the need of a reboot. I believe he reset the modem or something.
I thought it was a firmware related issue but that might not be the case also as I flashed two different firmwares (both for my region) with Odin and it's still the same.
Is it normal that the center pin is a bit down than the left and right one?
There was previously a user who broke one of the sim card reader clips. It could be possible?
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There was previously a user who broke one of the sim card reader clips. It could be possible?
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Yep it turned out that was the case, no firmware issues or anything of the sort. Luckaly mine wasn't actually broken but it just somehow went into the bottom too much. I used a small needle and tweaked it a bit hoping to push it back up and achieved it without breaking it.
Now it reads my cut Micro SIM just fine. :victory:
Mitko said:
Yep it turned out that was the case, no firmware issues or anything of the sort. Luckaly mine wasn't actually broken but it just somehow went into the bottom too much. I used a small needle and tweaked it a bit hoping to push it back up and achieved it without breaking it.
Now it reads my cut Micro SIM just fine. :victory:
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Scary that those pins can bend so easily.
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I've just had the same problem on my mom's S4 mini: central pin lower than the other two. Bending it up a bit solved the problem.
In fact on other S4 minis the three pins are level.
Cheers

SIM Not Detected - FIX

Since this has been an issue for me for a LONG time, and Samsung as well as carriers aren't clear on a repair - I'm going to explain what all I did to fix it.
It started over a year ago. I was waiting on a friend to contact me that came all the way up from Portland. Waiting all day, I went to give her a call and it said "No SIM card detected, please reboot to detect your SIM card". Rebooted, gave her a call and found out she was trying to get a hold of me all day and had to head back. I can understand how frustrating this can be for anyone.
There are MANY factors that can cause this, which is why this issue hasn't been completely resolved by Samsung. These factors include:
* The SIM itself
* The SIM slot
* The connector that connects the SIM / SD holder to the motherboard
* The motherboard
* The firmware
It will take some trial-and-error to find out what will work, but the first thing you can try is cleaning your SIM / Slot contacts with a piece of paper and a cleaner of your choice (I use QD electronic cleaner, and a piece of paper). After cleaning, reinstall and wipe the cache. This worked for a while.
I looked at the SIM contacts after replacing the holder. These contacts on the S4, at least my original holder, are VERY flimsy, and even just applying downward force (with a pencil eraser or your finger) to get a grip on the SIM to pull it out can throw them out of alignment. I suggest using needle-nose pliers or tweezers to GENTLY grip the SIM (by the side), after first unlatching the SIM (Push Forward).
What finally worked for me is replacing the SIM slot (for the 6th time) and the SIM card. There are actually many different versions of the SIM and SIM slot, so here's the versions that worked for me (T-Mobile customer)
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The version is to the top-right of the SIM holder. This is the one that worked for me, or "I9505 R0.3" Also note that the bottom right of the SIM slot itself has the mark "TE" for "TE Electronics" or "Tyco Electronics". If you have heard of Tyco (Electronics - not toy company), they are a major player. TE Electronics makes high quality parts for harsh environments. This brand mark is a good bet you have quality contacts for your new SIM. Here is where I bought it: http://www.ebay.com/itm/171514317032
After installing it, it did not work yet. It worked with every other provider BUT T-Mobile. Seeing as though this is a T-Mobile phone, I called them to see what was up. It was not blacklisted, so they sent me a new SIM card for free (since I paid for one that didn't work). Popped the new one they shipped me in, and it works!
There are MANY different kinds of SIM cards. Different carriers, different manufacturers, different versions, thickness, size of the contacts, are just a few of the factors that can be an issue with the SIM itself. A T-Mobile SIM has it's version on the back of the SIM, near the ICCID (SIM Number). Mine is the "Universal" Mini/Micro/Nano SIM, version: TM9260 06.00.
After installing, I wiped the cache partition, for good measure. BAM! Works!
This issue has been frustrating for me for a while. I hope this helps. If it does, please reply and/or share. I'm not looking for credit, I just am trying to narrow down all the factors and troubleshoot what is the actual issue. Good luck!

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