Hey,
I've just realized NFSFAN and NagROM are to different ROMs. My phone is currently on NFSFAN v16. Can someone advise which one is better for each carrier or differences between them?
BTW thanks a lot to NFSFAN, Nagrom Nniuq and everyone else for their effort/support on getting us a wm6.5 solution for our Vogue
Even though this has been discussed repeatedly....
NFS's ROM's are of the more stable variety, using tried and true Windows 6.5 builds. In addition he cooks in a long list of useful apps, tweaks, ports and theme. His next release(V17) will be his last Windows 6.5 release, when he will move onto 6.5.1 beta releases.
NagROM is coming from a different direction, his goal is to build ROM's with the newest hottest leaked 6.5.1 ROM's. His ROM's are going to need a lot more tweaking and problem solving than NFSFAN's polished 6.5 releases. From what I have gathered NagROM makes quality ROM's, but you have to be willing work around the large changes Microsoft is making with every new release. That is to say with every new release there seems to be an issue that you have to work around. Lastly NagROM's ROM's are made in a true barebones version and a slightly modified version with a few core apps added along with the new Touch Flo interface.
I have been running NFSFAN ROM's with very few issues for a while now. I have also been eagerly keeping tabs on NagROM's builds waiting for Microsoft to make a 6.5.1 build that is polished enough for me to use daily(although there are plenty of people who do use those ROM's daily).
The carrier and ROM's have nothing to do with each other, you don't have to pick which ROM by the carrier, all are fully supported.
slow88lx said:
Even though this has been discussed repeatedly....
NFS's ROM's are of the more stable variety, using tried and true Windows 6.5 builds. In addition he cooks in a long list of useful apps, tweaks, ports and theme. His next release(V17) will be his last Windows 6.5 release, when he will move onto 6.5.1 beta releases.
NagROM is coming from a different direction, his goal is to build ROM's with the newest hottest leaked 6.5.1 ROM's. His ROM's are going to need a lot more tweaking and problem solving than NFSFAN's polished 6.5 releases. From what I have gathered NagROM makes quality ROM's, but you have to be willing work around the large changes Microsoft is making with every new release. That is to say with every new release there seems to be an issue that you have to work around. Lastly NagROM's ROM's are made in a true barebones version and a slightly modified version with a few core apps added along with the new Touch Flo interface.
I have been running NFSFAN ROM's with very few issues for a while now. I have also been eagerly keeping tabs on NagROM's builds waiting for Microsoft to make a 6.5.1 build that is polished enough for me to use daily(although there are plenty of people who do use those ROM's daily).
The carrier and ROM's have nothing to do with each other, you don't have to pick which ROM by the carrier, all are fully supported.
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well said, basically if you want the very latest build Nag is the way to go, if you can settle for an older but more stable build then NFS.
I go back and forth between both of their roms, and you cant go wrong with either one really.
NFSFAN without a glimpse of a doubt
nfsfan because it seems to do everything i need and then some, on top of that its a definite stable ROM, being im not real good with phones i dont wanna have to worry bout random issues popping up, and anything that ever happens with his ROM is usually addressed within a day or 2 and its very minor
I had NFSfans and it's solid. For some reason my phone doesn't like it. It would randomly lock me out of the phone. The old Windows Mobile Lock screen would come up and when I tried to enter my Password it would not register the button presses. So the only way out was to Take the battery out or soft reset. Both options would hard reset the phone including the memory card if I left it in. (Yes I tried flashing back to Stock about 5 times, hard reset in the new ROM a few times and YES IT REALLY DID CLEAR THE MEM CARD)
Also I thought my company changed something in their server because I could'nt get Outlook exchange to work. Turns out the ROM was the issue. I've switched to Nagrom because I was tired of the random lock-ups. I wasn't expecting Outlook to work because like I said I thought it was my company. Well with Nagrom Outlook Exhchange works just as well as it did in WM6.1. NFSFans Rom is more pretty but in my current experience NAGROM seems the most stable.
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I had NFSfans and it's solid. For some reason my phone doesn't like it. It would randomly lock me out of the phone. The old Windows Mobile Lock screen would come up and when I tried to enter my Password it would not register the button presses. So the only way out was to Take the battery out or soft reset. Both options would hard reset the phone including the memory card if I left it in. (Yes I tried flashing back to Stock about 5 times, hard reset in the new ROM a few times and YES IT REALLY DID CLEAR THE MEM CARD)
Also I thought my company changed something in their server because I could'nt get Outlook exchange to work. Turns out the ROM was the issue. I've switched to Nagrom because I was tired of the random lock-ups. I wasn't expecting Outlook to work because like I said I thought it was my company. Well with Nagrom Outlook Exhchange works just as well as it did in WM6.1. NFSFans Rom is more pretty but in my current experience NAGROM seems the most stable.
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The instructions for Flashing one of NFSFAN's custom ROMS from the Chef himself:
1. Flash from BOOTLOADER mode only, let all customizations run.
2. Hard reset, let all customizations run.
There are users who suggest the "triple flash technique", In another forum NFSFAN himself suggested to a user to flash back to stock first, I think it started from there.
Question is......did you at least follow the chef's instructions?
The only tiime I have ever experienced a random hard reset with a ROM from NFSFAN is when I purposely flashed from active sync and did not hard reset after. One single improper flash. I was able to replicate most of the problems alot of users were reporting......and worse after the self hard reset. My exchange wouldn't sync contacts was one of them.
Following the above procedure (once again.....NFSFAN recommends bootloader mode himself) I have NEVER had a random hard reset, and my exchange works perfect. There was one 6.1 ROM version that had exchange issues (a beta build), but NFSFAN resolved it and I've never seen those problems since.
I can't remember the technical reason NFSFAN gave once for bootloader mode. BUT, it is his own kitchen and his ROM, therefor when he gives instruvtions on hoe to install it I do just that.
Please don't take this as a rant or anything personal. I would be interestred to hear if you flashed according to NFSFAN's instructions, and if not if you tried again and tested your exchange etc.
Cheers and happy flashing (With NFSFAN, VIN, NAG etc we have lots of that to do!!!)
were you really that bored?
right now am using NagROM because of 6.5.1 i llikkee it
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I had NFSfans and it's solid. For some reason my phone doesn't like it. It would randomly lock me out of the phone. The old Windows Mobile Lock screen would come up and when I tried to enter my Password it would not register the button presses. So the only way out was to Take the battery out or soft reset. Both options would hard reset the phone including the memory card if I left it in. (Yes I tried flashing back to Stock about 5 times, hard reset in the new ROM a few times and YES IT REALLY DID CLEAR THE MEM CARD)
Also I thought my company changed something in their server because I could'nt get Outlook exchange to work. Turns out the ROM was the issue. I've switched to Nagrom because I was tired of the random lock-ups. I wasn't expecting Outlook to work because like I said I thought it was my company. Well with Nagrom Outlook Exhchange works just as well as it did in WM6.1. NFSFans Rom is more pretty but in my current experience NAGROM seems the most stable.
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It's a problem with the Windows Default Lock. Change to Windows Classic. Been a week without issues and mine was locking every day or 2.
slow88lx said:
Even though this has been discussed repeatedly....
NFS's ROM's are of the more stable variety, using tried and true Windows 6.5 builds. In addition he cooks in a long list of useful apps, tweaks, ports and theme. His next release(V17) will be his last Windows 6.5 release, when he will move onto 6.5.1 beta releases.
NagROM is coming from a different direction, his goal is to build ROM's with the newest hottest leaked 6.5.1 ROM's. His ROM's are going to need a lot more tweaking and problem solving than NFSFAN's polished 6.5 releases. From what I have gathered NagROM makes quality ROM's, but you have to be willing work around the large changes Microsoft is making with every new release. That is to say with every new release there seems to be an issue that you have to work around. Lastly NagROM's ROM's are made in a true barebones version and a slightly modified version with a few core apps added along with the new Touch Flo interface.
I have been running NFSFAN ROM's with very few issues for a while now. I have also been eagerly keeping tabs on NagROM's builds waiting for Microsoft to make a 6.5.1 build that is polished enough for me to use daily(although there are plenty of people who do use those ROM's daily).
The carrier and ROM's have nothing to do with each other, you don't have to pick which ROM by the carrier, all are fully supported.
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Thanks for an excellent and accurate write up of both of our ROMs!
Related
I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
How many WM6.1 roms can we possibly create!?
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I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I completely agree! In the past I tried several, but ultimately stuck with the Schaps roms. I felt they were the best for me- had what I waned, were fast and stable. Now in this last month with WM6.1, there are so many, and they're all apparently the latest and the greatest. It's confusing too that every cook uses their own revision numbering system also.
I'm using Pays latest rom right now. It's what it claims to be (for me), fast and stable. Will continue with that until Schaps (hopefully soon) releases his final 4.40...
It seems everyone is working very hard to get their own perfect rom happening- but wouldn't it be better if we got more collaboration going between cooks, and worked together to create fewer, better roms? It would probably mean spending less time reinventing the wheel...
Just my thoughts- take them or leave them.
no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
I use Pandora Naked 7.0b2, the last WM6 Naked rom before mattk_r moved on to WM6.1. It's very fast, very stable and comes with nothing extraneous.
miffymiffy said:
no matter what ROM I go to recently, I end up going straight back to this one
I just downloaded the Voice Command file that was on here and im sure you will find it if you use the search function.
It is fast and has alot of storage memory and in my opinion is the most stable ROM i have put on my hermes.
Everyone is different tho...
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I have to agree. I tried all the 6.1's as they were coming out and within a few hours had hard resets. Kept coming back to Berds rom (linked above).
Like Schap rom so much ...... so waiting for full release of Schap's WM6.1
Thank you guys for the input. I'm using Faria's 6.1 ROM. GREAT rom--very stable. Just two things with it though: there's a memory leak somewhere and voice command doesn't work well at all. So i'll see what ROM to flash. I also wanted a lite rom, but it never came out. Might try schap's 6.1 rom when it comes out.
Have you tried Matt's Pandora Naked Roms? They are clean/stable. I've been using his PN7.2 for awhile with VC & no issues. I haven't tried his 9.1 yet (wm6.1). I'm waiting for all the bugs to get worked out.
Chris
No flame, just a lot of opinion... Regardless of what anyone says, if you are looking for stability, speed, memory, etc... then you may want to stay with a WM6.0 rom... Although I have run and am currently running a WM6.1 variant, I would suggest to anyone that either doesn't have the time to flash repeatedly or isn't afflicted with RFWS to stay away from the 6.1 Roms for now...
How much time is actually spent on a rom to consider it stable...? What are the measurements that are taken to consider a rom fast and speedy...? I am not taking anything away from the cooks and wish I had the grey matter to cook roms myself, BUT unless a rom is tested over a period of time (not two weeks) and repeatedly subjected to beta testing how can one say it is stable... We constantly have roms that are released and then we become the Beta Testers (not complaining mind you, its what I live for)... But we do need to remember that this is primarily a development site and as such there will always be releases that some of us consider to be substandard or less than average... There are several factors that determine stability and how often one has to perform soft/hard resets is one of those factors...
Well, let me get off of the soapbox, I personally liked the Black Series of Roms that are no longer under development... And since they are not supported by the cook any longer (for personal reasons), I would recommend Schaps 4.x series of roms... not the WM6.1 variants, but the WM6.0 variants...
Hope this helps...
kareem9nba said:
I've tried many ROMS on my 8525 and they all worked pretty well. Each had their advantages and disadvantages. I want a ROM that has a lot of memory, very stable, and works great with voice command. So if you can just drop by and recommend one. No need to flame or say something about the thread--if you don't like it, don't answer in it. I just want recommendations, thanks.
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I think Schaps v4.01 is very stable. It can use MS VC very effectively plus it is not hifi version compared to the current ROMs. Just the basic necessary things which are required for a good ROM. I have used both his lite and full version. You can try it out.
The ROM thread is situated here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=343942.
I have tried many kinds of different softwares also on this ROM which works pretty well and as desired. You can try it out.
Great to know. I've tried schaps rom actually and liked it but for some reason that i can't remember, i went to faria's. I think i might go back to this one now. Are there any highly anticipated roms coming up like dutty's 6.1 for the kaiser when everybody was talking about it before it came out?
I tried Schaps and just like last time, it freezes up a lot on me for some reason. Things don't go very smooth on it so i might try pay's rom or some other that i find stable. Any further recommendations will be highly accepted.
I was a great fan of Schaps roms but I kept having connectivity issues (ie: bluetooth, wi-fi) so i switched over to TNT roms. Love those. But it all depends on what you're looking for. For example, TNT roms have a lot of 3rd part apps that some people might not want. I personally haven't had any luck with voice command. Not even with the at&t rom. You gotta do your research. Check thru the first few pages of a rom thread that looks appealing to you and see what the immediate problems are and post your concerns/questions. Members here will be more than happy to help you. After all, that's what development is...isn't it?
Guys, I have gone done the same path as so many of you - trying each ROM as it came out. Before 6.1, I was stuck on TNT SE after being a major fan of Schaps for a long while. Now with 6.1, I have found CRC's to be the best. I dont use VC so cant comment.. Randomize is good, but no BT Explorer... have been operating with CRC for a few weeks now. Very rarely have to reset - only if I overload the thing and it locks up at 99% memory utilisation. Try it for yourself... The only comment I have beyond that is related to radio ROM. I have found that 6.1 seems to be more sensitive to which Radio Rom you are using. I have gone back to 1.43 and found it to be superior to 1.54! Be warned though, I have read in some of the other threads that an older radio ROM can cause the phone to freeze up, although I haven't experianced that at all.
RanDomIze Final Storm v2.10
I have tried almost every 6.1 ROM, this on definatly is the best one I have found.
Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
Welcome back buddy! WM6.1 builds have a lot problems for now - freezing and HR - maybe depends on BS, but we don't know at the moment.
Maybe you will be successfull...
PDAVIET is the best!!
FARIA.R-32
I've been using it for few weeks now. And had absoultly no problems at all. Best rom so far (at least for me ).
I reakon CRC's ROMs are the best
Try the stable one if you rely on your phone, or the development one if you want to try the bleeding edge stuff...
I vote PDAViet, clean, BigStorage which makes it darn fast and no stability problems whatsoever. Been running for 2 days now
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I vote PDAViet, clean, BigStorage which makes it darn fast and no stability problems whatsoever. Been running for 2 days now
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I really wouldn't call 2 days stable... If I relied on my phone, I'd be looking for something that has run for weeks before calling it stable
I wouldnt go to 6.1
Many different custom ROMs of WM6.1 that I've tried.
Some crashed to a hard reset
Some frequently froze
Some froze/crashed/kill my dog
All for what? SMS Threading? And it's an ugly SMS threading by the way, and if you got more than a hundred SMS, it would take a while for it to load threaded SMS with each contact. All other features of 6.1 are either useless to common users (such as corporate security junk) or are transferable to 6.0 (such as Office 6.1)
I've went back and forth between 6.1 and 6.0 until sticking to 6.0
It's faster & stable (won't stay "stableR" because 6.1 is NOT stable)
See it this way
WM6.0 = XP
WM6.1 = Vista
One is older than the other, but all the newer version's stuff was transferable to the older version.
Though I wouldnt say WM6.1 has ANY improvement over the GUI like Vista did.
Newer doesnt necessarely mean better.
Eventually, a hardware device is old enough and newer "software" doesnt improve anything at all.
I'm still running mid-2005 Nvidia drivers on my laptop Most stable drivers for THAT laptop (as it's old).
Hermes is old
I've found that it depends on the Windows Mobile build... Out of all the 6.1 builds I've played with:
19199 = WM6.1, seems to be very stable on all devices.
19209 = WM6.1, seems to be stable on some devices, lots of issues on other devices. Can freeze or hard reset, but it's either it works 100% or fails completely. Not 100% sure why as yet.
19400 = WM6.1, haven't been able to get this to even boot as yet.
This is why I've split my development into Stable (uses build 19199) and Development (uses build 19209 - or higher when I get it working).
Oh that's easy - TNT.19199
The full version.
Only need to add FTouch SL
Simply the fastest and the most fully loaded ROM I've ever used.
(probably partially due to the X-button that actually terminates application process when you click it)
And it's fully loaded with things you can actually make use of...
I'm still finding new useful things to do with the apps it comes with.
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I've found that it depends on the Windows Mobile build... Out of all the 6.1 builds I've played with:
19199 = WM6.1, seems to be very stable on all devices.
19209 = WM6.1, seems to be stable on some devices, lots of issues on other devices. Can freeze or hard reset, but it's either it works 100% or fails completely. Not 100% sure why as yet.
19400 = WM6.1, haven't been able to get this to even boot as yet.
This is why I've split my development into Stable (uses build 19199) and Development (uses build 19209 - or higher when I get it working).
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I agree with you 100%
HOWEVER, while 19199 doesn't "hard reset", or crash under "CASUAL" use, it is very sensitive to "torture" use.
6.0 can take in a lot of crap, changing radio bands while turning off bluetooth and having Live Messenger trying to initiate a GPRS connection. 6.1 19199 would most likely just vomit, pass out on face first in the toilet bowl and wake up a while later feeling groggy.
Though it's better than 19209 which would end up overdosing (hard reset)
I dont have any concrete examples of how to stress test 19199 into bugging, but after running 19199 (including your 9.1 ROM, which is the last WM6.1 I tried). I defitively saw the difference between WM6.0 and what is considered to be "stablest" in the WM6.1 kind.
WM6.0 is much more responsive.
i've tried all 6.1 roms and they are excellent in all areas but one - the battery life. it's simply too short no matter what you do.
so, i went back to the best rom i've tried so far - K's final WM 6.0 - it's got the speed and battery life way better than any wm 6.1 rom out there
hi JJ
I am using from PDAviet the DVHa rom version 19209 in combination with radio 1.48. I am using my pushmail alot and the phone last 3 days!!
This is the best I ever had. I have tested nearly every rom in the last year (also black ). I'm running this combination a couple of weeks without a SR or HR!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385047&highlight=pdaviet
I want to test the new rom from DVHa but in that threat there a some people with HR issues!
JJ, glad to hear from you again. Hope all is OK with you. I have been using Pandora Naked ROM for a few months now and it is very stable. I have not had any hard reset so far. Worth a try.
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Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
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speed: faria , it's a bit unstable(but you gotta see it at least once...
stability: pdaviet, clean and stable(fast as well)
Well, well! If it isn't the highly respected JJ! Notwithstanding your great contributions to this community I would direct you as I would any question about which is the "best"; do a seach in the topic titles with the word 'best' and you'll start to get a good idea.
As of the last couple of weeks I would definitely shortlist the ROMs based on the 19209 builds (i.e PDAViet and PDACorner and maybe try some of the newer PDAViet builds).
Let us know how your get on and how they fare against your once ubiquitous roms.
Nothing has been as smooth as black !!, as a noob i've been sticking with Shaps....Please post which one's you like the best after trying, Thanks JJ
jasjamming said:
Its been a while since ive even bothered to snoop at whats going on in the old hermes world. I still have my hermes and am curious to see how far wm6 has progressed.
now the dilemma is that so much has happened since i last worked on black (dont get excited - i hung up my boots) and dont know which one to install.
So which is the "best" in terms of stability/speed etc?
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Get back in #xda-mofos where you belong JJ, and where the **** is walshieau hiding?
Hi Jasjammin, A t this point in time I've used a heap of the wm 6.1 roms. I tend to like (for my jasjam) the PDAViet roms as I dont seem to get the hangups or hard resets I've got in other roms. I quite like the PDAViet rom series 19701, Its BLINDINGLY FAST and no problems yet. Mind you I only had it on a day or two, so.... As for the earlier versions, my Jasjam didnt like 19199 or 19202 but seemed to be ok with 19209& 19400. My radio rom is 154.30.10. Hope this helps... Cheers
Hi Jasjammin, A t this point in time I've used a heap of the wm 6.1 roms. I tend to like (for my jasjam) the PDAViet roms as I dont seem to get the hangups or hard resets I've got in other roms. I quite like the PDAViet rom series 19701, Its BLINDINGLY FAST and no problems yet. Mind you I only had it on a day or two, so.... As for the earlier versions, my Jasjam didnt like 19199 or 19202 but seemed to be ok with 19209& 19400. My radio rom is 154.30.10. Hope this helps... Cheers
Just a quick poll for my own curiosity if nothing else, which WM 6.1 ROM are you using?
If not one of the above, please add a post explaining which.
Also, are there are any newer benchmarks available than those shown here?
You forgot "Binky11's ROM". Best I have used so far.
We seem to be getting a few 'others', but no indication which they are?
I'm currently using Faria's/Dr. Puttingham's ROM but it seems a little unstable, as the OS freezes on me forcing me to pull the battery to reset. I installed it yesterday, with 2 freezes already. I think I'm going to try another one. I use an 8525 btw.
-PB
PDACorner's ROM's have been the cleanest and most stable for me. He is always using the latest builds. I am currently using V.14. build 20226.
Personally I stay away from super storage ROMS. I don't have a need for them, and maybe by sheer coincidence I've only had 1 hard-reset for all the ROMs I've tried, whereas it seems like other folks were having them more often.
I've been a fan of the pdaviet ROMs, but lately have been happy with CRCs... not sure if you need to break out his dev ROMs from stable, since one is just a progression to another.
Stable, with good available program memory.
I used schaps 4 for ages, but I find myself more and more taking a simple "no options" rom (like the PDACorner rom) and adding the dialer, interface, and applications that I really want, instead of using some rom someone else builds.
So I guess you could say I use PDACorner with LOTS of mods.
CRC's 11.2 and 12.2 is the same
Basically re numbered. I too have issues with BS ROMs, my device seems not to agree with it! I would love to try again in the near future, but I use my device for business and can not afford hard resets at all. I go with CRC's ROM for weeks with the only need to power off and on again with side button every other week.
I don't know why but I can't seem to find others that would not hard reset on me, yet.
I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
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I have been using Alex's v5.att.161.home ROM for months now, and I love it.
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Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
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Hmm, it is a hermes forum, ... you've got a tilt.
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Oh. Right. Well, uh, if you ever get a Tilt, you should use this ROM...
i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs. im still using sleuth 3.1 from 7/5/07! =P. it's a PITA to backup data then upgrade, then resync data.
but i'm looking forward to upgrading soon, i think wm6.1 improves performance+stability yes?
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i think the "others" are older WM 6.0 ROMs.
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Agreed, i am sick of using WM6.1 to do the ASSync issue which seems to be present even in the official ROM's
Dvha79_ddt
Its always updated with the latest build. Its clean and stable. Suits my taste.
for what it's worth see my signature...
I have tried at some point just about every 6.1 rom I can find on this forum.
The PDAcorner v16 seemed good, and VERY fast, but I didnt like the UI or the idea of how long it would take me to get it how I like it.
I LOVE CRC's roms, they are clean, stable, and fast. Using 12.2 atm! with a 8meg page pool, dam fast!
For those who speak of the "latest build" ala PDA Viet and PDA corner...is there actually a noticeable difference when u flash to a later build ROM? I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much and then when you consider that you can try the same ROM with so many Pagepool settings, sigh....i could be spending HOURS testing ROMS and just don't have the time to play with them all and at diff settings. That is why I am VERY glad for a thread like this, cause it seems to be frowned upon to compare the ROMS on this site (or mainly to ask the oppinion for a ROM)...i don't exactly understand that, why not discuss and compare them?
what i am wondering, are the latest builds considered to always be the best? i feel like there are so many factors (including unknown ones) that attribute to a ROM being a good working ROM.
for those who have tried lots of the PDAVIET ROMS, any thoughts on which is/are the best?
I can't pick one of the ROMS on the list, but i will say this, i've been on WM6.1 for a while and am considering trying 6.0 again to get a new frame of reference to tell if one is indeed better than the other for me
Shamanix`s WM6 Ultimate v2 FINAL [SuperStorage] With add on's
I'm using CRC12.3 at the moment, but I'm not all that rapt in it.
PDV has had some good ones. Does a nice clean install and removes rubbish that other ROMs leave behind. Got rid of a bug that had plagued me for months.
PDACorner has had some good ones.
Randomize had the best package that needed the least customising by me.
I guess I'm just a ROM junkie.
Been thinking of upgrading to a Samsung i900, but then I'd miss all this fun.
Dillsnik said:
I love flashing a new ROM but it takes me such a long time to get it tweaked to how i like it, so i don't do it so much
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You can use UC/sdconfig.txt to re-install all your favourite programs that run from internal RAM. Most of the stuff I want to add back in runs off my SD card. I just keep the cabs in a separate folder on my SD card and work through them. Only takes a few minutes.
Biggest hassle I had was with contacts and email settings.
But PIMBackup restores contacts in a flash, and Settings Savior restores all my email accounts (about 4 or 5).
Now I can re-flash and be back in operation in under 30 minutes.
I am going to first start off by saying that I'm not a big fan of change and haven't found myself a reason to upgrade to 6.5.1+ yet. So bear with me, as I'm still using 21864 on NFSFAN's 1.0 ROM. I have noticed various things with this ROM build, was wondering if anyone had also noticed them, or even found a solution for them.
The first thing I noticed with it is that if I have a data connection open, it is always 'active' - the arrows never turn gray. I've seen this happen in BOTH of NFSFAN's dialers.
I would assume this problem has to do with the first-- My data connection is interrupted after some time, and I get the "Cannot Connect" error. I have MS Direct Push (Exchange/Activesync) turned on. A simple soft-reset will temporarily fix this, but it seems to happen about twice a day.
Of course next, the alarms don't sound but I'm not worried about this since it's a well-known problem.
The last thing I noticed is that sometimes my D-Pad stops functioning in the software, and touch-scrolling lags. This only happens sometimes and doesn't bother me. I first noticed this when I had Palringo installed, but it also has been doing it after 3-4 hard resets.
EDIT: This is by far the best 6.5 ROM for the Vogue that I have personally used. I also realize that NFSFAN has stopped development with this ROM series.
i don't think nfsfan has stopped developing them... i just think he has no time. (he's a full time uni student) and this is his hobby
i personally use vin's rom... and i was always able to have a data connection stop.
if you want to manually configure when to have data install http://www.4shared.com/file/72428200/ebc177b2/MoDaCo_NoData.html
sorry for the double post. but here it is.
i don't think nfsfan has stopped developing them... i just think he has no time. (he's a full time uni student) and this is his hobby
i personally use vin's rom... and i was always able to have a data connection stop.
if you want to manually configure when to have data install this link here...l
I was a long time NFSFAN user and will no doubt flash his next ROM, but right now I am running Vin's 23506 ROM and it is simply the best ROM I have flashed. It is very fast and I never have to soft reset, like ever.
slow88lx said:
I was a long time NFSFAN user and will no doubt flash his next ROM, but right now I am running Vin's 23506 ROM and it is simply the best ROM I have flashed. It is very fast and I never have to soft reset, like ever.
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+1 on that.His TP ROMs also the best.This guy is a living ppc.Vogue and TP users got lucky
vin255764 said:
+1 on that.His TP ROMs also the best.This guy is a living ppc
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+1 too his Vogue rom was really stable, fast, and with enough features. Right now, I am testing mine, but his is one of the best (no offense to vin, your rom rocks too man!)
I used to use NFSFans, then i switched to Vins.
Couldn't be happier now with Vins, their stable, fast an usually liveable which is the big part, no way could go back to vanilla 6.1.
I agree NFSfans were good, but felt it up an down, where as following Vins till his kitchen crashed has been steady and in touch with his followers.
So, yeah theres little twitches an glitches, lot less then stock WM had so its a win-win, and i found the best continuity on Vins roms for my three vogues.
Sorry o/t an not knocking anyone, just credit where due.
Peace
WR
I have used both of these ROMs and finally decided on Vins(no offense to NFSfan, he is a genius), but the stability and look of Vins V_4 is simply amazing.
I'm pretty new to flashing ROMs, but I'm officially addicted and will for sure try anything that either put out.
Keep up the great work
Thanks for the feedback, guys! I think I do remember trying one of vins older ROMs but I'll catch the latest and try that.
Vin- Much impressed with V4!! Best I've used yet. Just installed no2chem's mass storage, works great.
any benifts to 6.5 on jan 20 ...campared to 6.1
heh?
heh? can you give more details about your question?
He's talking about the WinMo 6.5 upgrade for T-Mobile that is scheduled for official release on 1/20. It's the same leaked one that has been floating around for the last week or so.
To answer the question, I was running it for about 4-5 days. It's a solid ROM, but it's nothing to brag about. It's actually a little slower than most cooked ROMs offered in this forum. If you haven't done HardSPL and tried a cooked ROM, I would suggest doing so. You can always re-SPL/lock your phone if you need to return it for warranty purposes, and now that there is an official T-Mobile ROM you can just re-SPL/lock and then flash the 6.5 T-Mobile ROM to send it back.
T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM
cgigate said:
T-mobile already official released WM 6.5 two days ago, (it is the same one leaked few weeks ago), see here http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1611377
It is a very crappy ROM
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It's the official version, I'm sure, but it's not officially released until it shows up here: Windows Mobile Upgrade. The fact that the link is hidden -- i.e., it's not published on T-Mobile's website nor on HTC's website -- means that they haven't released it.
I don't think it's crappy. Sure, that's a matter of opinion...but I've been running custom roms for months that are well beyond T-Mo's WM6.5, and I have to say it's not bad.
I like the new Tmo rom out now but in time will look at some other roms. Just want to make sure that the official go gets my official go lol. I can tell some effort was put into it so its not bad at all.
Looks to be legit, I stand corrected.
kable said:
Its not the official T-Mobile Rom because it doesn't have the T-Mobile Logo on the Startup animation which means it still needs to be updated if only to add that. Who knows what else might be added or removed. Until then its a prerelease.
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The one I flashed from the hidden-official link (not the leaked link of 7-Jan) has the "Stick Together" boot screen...which is T-Mo USA.
My phone didn't have that boot screen...lost it months ago when I first flashed a custom (WWE) rom.
ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????
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ive been running it now since it was leaked, and I love it.... Im staying on this rom more than likely, but I want to try a custom rom, as its been a while since I flashed any cooked ones........... Of topic but whats a good leo 6.5.3 rom with the least bugs???????? Anyone??????????
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Keep flashing...keep reading...it all depends on what your taste is like, and what you use your phone for!
i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks
I've been running the leaked rom for about 1 week now and so far it's a little slower than the stock 6.1 rom. Probably because it consumes more resources. My memory is always around 60% when it used to be 50% on the old rom.
The bugs i've found were:
I'm getting will not wake from standby about 1-3 times a day.
Music will not play after a soft reboot or after connected to the PC in Mass Storage Mode. It seems the media is scanning in the background but there's no message saying so. It would take about 20 mins before a file can be played for 6gigs of music.
Looking to install the new Rom, it's official now.
I've been using Timor for the past month or so and I've loved it. Very fast and Very stable. I've only had a couple problems where it freezes in the transition from texting to the home screen. Other than that it's my fav so far.
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i hate hearing keep flashing and reading..... Lol read any thread on any custom rom and its nothing but issues..... Im not into taste, I want stability, if ya cant suggest that, please dont suggest the obvious which ive already done, just wondering if anyone could steer in the right bugless rom direction....... But ill do what I always do, read and get discouraged from all the complaints........ thanks
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The cooked ROMs off of this site have worked out better for me than the stock ones. If I find something that doesn't work I can complain about it and the chef get around to fixing the problem. Try getting T-Mobile to fix something and then post it in a decent amount of time.
In my view, cooked ROMS are way way ahead of stock roms, be they wm6.1 or wm6.5.
The stock built ROMS are too "flat", less imaginative and too much of light weights for devices with unlimited potential like my tp2.
I just gotta say that temperbad does have a point. As someone who likes to hear technical issues as well rather than personal thoughts, it can be a bit frustrating to be trying to get some real bugs, issues with a ROM and have to wade throught comments about colors of screens, and how nice the buttons look. I wanna know a) what goes wrong, b) how does it happen, c) is there a fix. Whether the start menu seems shinier than others is irrelevant to me. Perhaps others feel the same?
well i flashed the 6.5 ...its ok ,i like it ...but nothing extra special about it ...the 6.1 was almost the same...all they did was add a few extra features and colors...with my original 6.1 i could get the same cabs of this site,but it is stable...my next move would be flashing a cooked rom ...but i dont now which one till i read the bourd
Flash It!
I flashed it about a week ago and I really, really like it. The RAM usage IS slightly higher, but I would think that's to be expected. But IMO, the new ROM is faster than the old stock 6.1 ROM I was using. Very stable and no freezes and the like, and that is after adding a couple thousand contacts, syncing a gazillion text messages, and adding a boatload of programs. Plus WM 6.5 is negligibly better aesthetically than 6.1....but better nonetheless.
The plan was to try the stock ROM along with a couple other custom ROMs on the same day...but I've been really satisfied with the stock ROM. Which the exception of Sense 2.5, I personally don't know what I'm missing with the custom ROMs...but I'd love it if someone would tell me specifically what that is.
On the same note, as a new member to this site, I love the forum format for FAQ's and such, but I really wish the site was easier to filter through. For instance, I considered flashing a "Energy" ROM. After deciphering the thread topics and finding his kitchen, then seeing that that there were about a million posts in the thread, I just got lazy and stuck with the stock ROM What if each cook had a "store" that he or she controlled with multiple threads in his store for each ROM and iteration of them...? Though I'm new to this community, I don't believe you would sacrifice the essence of the site with more usability. I guess that would take some web developers and additional resources so it's probably wishful thinking. But since they're talking about bringing in non-HTC phones I don't think it should be out of the question.
I also didn't realize initially that a lot of the themes, task bars, ROM's, software, and etc that are compatible with the TP2 are actually in other phone forums that run WM 6.1+ and Sense UI. Then of course, there's the generic applications and themes forums. It can be a bit much at times if you're anal like me and you want a certain clock and a specific taskbar. I don't mind searching at all, but try a search for "transparent clock" or "htc taskbar" only if you're brave...
ANYHOO *back on the trail* I like the new TMO 6.5 ROM. I don't have any benchmark tests or anything, but it "feels" faster to me. And far as I can tell, some of the cooked ROMs are stock ROMs with built in themes, minus bloatware, added tweaks, and built in software. I do all that stuff myself anyways
Try b16b's roms, 6.5.3 leo is awesome least buggiest one for me, and I've tried them all (even the legendary energy roms). You just need to install leo 2g dialer I think because the dialer will be missing, oh and it uses x2 task mgr (no task mgr in others 6.5.1 roms) and Ms stock msg. You'll be missing alot of things but you can always add it, I did.
no thanks he needs to finish the rom ...so we dont have to add cab files