Get a TP2 now from att or wait for Leo - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

For those of us who do not have a TP2 yet (waiting for att), hearing now that the leo will be released in the coming weeks in Europe and the US in Q1 of 2010, would you still buy the TP2? There is no doubt it is a great phone but with the Leo 5 months away at most for the US market, does it pay to buy it now when Att releases it or wait for the Leo?
What are you guys doing (or would do)?

Absolutely not! You should DEFINITELY wait for the Leo...
... oh but wait, when it's finally time to get Leo, the next new line from HTC will be available in 5~6 months time. Maybe you should wait for that instead!
(Quite a pickle of a "vicious cycle" you've gotten yourself into.)

cmd512 said:
Absolutely not! You should DEFINITELY wait for the Leo...
... oh but wait, when it's finally time to get Leo, the next new line from HTC will be available in 5~6 months time. Maybe you should wait for that instead!
(Quite a pickle of a "vicious cycle" you've gotten yourself into.)
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Normally I would agree with you as there is always something better coming out, but that is normally a year away or so. Q1 2010 can be anywhere from 3-5 months and isn't the longest wait.

depends on what you want from a device. If you want a HW keyboard, go for the TP2. If you do not need this, wait for the Leo/HD2. On the other hand, new devices are released so fast, you will always be confronted with the question buy or wait. Choices, choices, ......

argoldst said:
Normally I would agree with you as there is always something better coming out, but that is normally a year away or so. Q1 2010 can be anywhere from 3-5 months and isn't the longest wait.
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WRONG. What we can all clearly see is that HTC has staggered the release of the HD/Leo line vs the Diamond2/TP2 line. Maybe there are two separate development teams working on these devices... or simply maybe, they did this for marketing reasons.
Therefore, it is very safe to assume that once Leo launches, TP3/Diamond3 or something along those lines will only be a few months off.
Given this, you're still stuck in the same pickle I mentioned earlier.

My thought is this, Q1 2010 in the US but no specific carrier yet.
If you are going to be waiting for AT&T to get the Leo it will likely come out months after everyone else. And that puts it in iPhone 4G range, so they won't launch it then. The likelihood of AT&T releasing it at all is very slim.

kuzibri said:
depends on what you want from a device. If you want a HW keyboard, go for the TP2. If you do not need this, wait for the Leo/HD2. On the other hand, new devices are released so fast, you will always be confronted with the question buy or wait. Choices, choices, ......
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Seconding this. The Leo kind of rules but there's no question in my mind that when it is released I will still want my TP2. I don't know if I'll ever be sold on soft keyboards.

Thirding this! Even when the HTC Leo/HD2 hits the street, I will stick to my TP2!

Fourthing this as well, I want hardware keyboard and hand writing recognition of which the Leo has neither

Common sense
We have to realize that manufacturers/media folks are forcing us/trying to convince us to buy the latest devices. They' re releasing/reviewing device after device with the speed of light with even more impressing specs after months of speculations about a particular device (FI the Leo). They want us to drool over these new devices and have sleepless nights on what to do. They do not care about that, they just want to sell or stay popular. All in all, we are in principle the fools who run after them, always wanting the newest of the newest without asking ourselves: do we need this device or are we happy with our current device. Furthermore, if we look at the customer service companies are given us (alas to say, with the exception of Apple) after having bought a certain device (FI the HTC Touch HD), you will be very disappointed: no real upgrades, just hot fixes. If we want companies to change their selling policy, we have to stop "this devices rat race". Of course I know that there are people who always want the latest, but nevertheless I think we have to bring this rat race to an end and ask for more customer service for the device we just bought.

For anyone excited about purchasing the Tilt2, as I have been for the last 4 months, then seeing the Leo and the specs of that phone, I've decided to wait until Q1 2010 for the Leo. The main reason is, you get the phone with specs no one can touch at that time. If you purchase the Tilt2, spec wise, it's not that much of a difference over the Tilt (other than WM 6.5). My contract has been expired for the last 4 months. However, I am not going to sign a 2-yr. commitment for the Tilt2, when in the 2nd year of that contract, people will be using phones with WM 7.0. At least waiting for AT&T to possibly release the HD2, then signing a 2-yr contract at that time- you would at least have the experience of upgrading to WM 7.0 because the HD2 will meet the minimum requirements. Those purchasing the Tilt2, will be stuck with WM 6.5 for the life of the phone. And as some of you have thought while reading this (there is no way AT&T will sign a contract to sell the HD2 because of thier love affair with the iphone), I'm ready to bolt to the first US cell carrier who will offer this phone. I'll give them my two years, instead of AT&T releasing hacked up keyboards. And that leads to the last decision. If you must have a keyboard, you can go for the Tilt2, but I believe with the screen size of the HD2, the touchscreen keyboard will be so broad, there will be the slightest of chances to tap an incorrect key. I will enjoy the iphone experience with this HD2, with the added bonus of HTC touchflo 3D platform, and the opportunity for more customization than the iphone could ever offer. Here's hoping AT&T picks up the HD2 as soon as possible, but if they don't, it's been real, and it's been fun, but the my AT&T experience hasn't been real fun.

YodaJM said:
My thought is this, Q1 2010 in the US but no specific carrier yet.
If you are going to be waiting for AT&T to get the Leo it will likely come out months after everyone else. And that puts it in iPhone 4G range, so they won't launch it then. The likelihood of AT&T releasing it at all is very slim.
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+1, excellent point. The HTC Asia/EU TP2 was released what... 4~6 months ago? Chance of you seeing a Leo at any of the US carriers in 5 months is slim to none.

I'm going for the TP2. By the time the Leo comes out with U.S. 3G compatibility, WM7 will be closer and with it, many new devices. Also, the Leo's specs are the minimum requirement for WM7. I think next years phones will blow the Leo away. If I could get a Leo today, unlocked and with U.S. 3G, I would, but I think the TP2 will hold me for a year at least.

Absolutely going with the TP2. Mainly no hardware keyboard, but also that the next phone I buy I want to come stock with WinMo7. Sure the Leo has the specs for it, but will HTC be updating it to 7 almost a year later? Obviously the cooks here will be porting it, but I'd rather be sure. Plus the next snapdragon cpu is going to be dual core @ 1.5GHz. Count me in for that one

As stated before
TP2 definetly!!
hardware keyboard is a must for me, even if Leo has better specs.
By now TP2 is the best hardware keyboard device on the market, perhaps when TP3 is anounced...

get tp2
if you need now then Get TP2 its available now otherwise Definitely wait for leo

If you're in Europe, wait for the Leo (unless you particularly need a hardware keyboard or you need to use it wearing gloves). If you're in the US, get a TP2.

argoldst said:
For those of us who do not have a TP2 yet (waiting for att), hearing now that the leo will be released in the coming weeks in Europe and the US in Q1 of 2010, would you still buy the TP2? There is no doubt it is a great phone but with the Leo 5 months away at most for the US market, does it pay to buy it now when Att releases it or wait for the Leo?
What are you guys doing (or would do)?
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Depend on your needs. If you like hardware keyboard go with TP2 or wait for a kind of TP3. Otherwise I would wait for Leo..
I'm pretty happy with TP2 and will only change it for a Leo with hardware keyboard.

Why do you guys make everything so hard. Buy the TP2 and when the Leo comes out get that. Sell off your TP2 on ebay or wherever and take that money as a subsidy against the Leo. Should be very simple. That's what I'm going to do. If I don't like the Leo (doubtful) I'll just return it.

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Android on S620

How much will we wait until htc will public android for are S620 (if it will ever come out).
This is a call to all:
IS THERE ANYBODY WITH SKILLS THAT WOULD LIKE TO START WORKING ON ANDROID S620
I know its not easy but a lot of you have great programming skill, and I'm 100% that something will come out.
You're not going to get it from HTC if it even comes to the Excalibur. HTC have pledged not to "recycle" old Windows Mobile phones for Android. They're planning on issuing different phones with different hardware specs for each respective OS.
besides android is solely based on touch screen and i just dont see how it will work on a non touch screen device which specs are like 2yrs old...im sorry to say but the s620, while is/was a great phone (i have one), technology wise its out of date..most phones that are coming out now(well the good ones)will mostly be touch screen..they are the way of the future and im just waiting to update to the htc touch pro/ raphael
now a phone like that should be more customizable than how the s620 was!!
thedoctor1 said:
besides android is solely based on touch screen and i just dont see how it will work on a non touch screen device which specs are like 2yrs old...im sorry to say but the s620, while is/was a great phone (i have one), technology wise its out of date..most phones that are coming out now(well the good ones)will mostly be touch screen..they are the way of the future and im just waiting to update to the htc touch pro/ raphael
now a phone like that should be more customizable than how the s620 was!!
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Unless the device have a keyboard or keypad, i would never consider a device with on-screen dialer (even the one on iPhone didn't impress me).
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My buddy has a HTC Touch and I hate using it. Texting is such a pain with that onscreen keyboard.
Just my own personal bias, but I'd rather see things like openmoko and qtopia take center stage. Google has the corporate money behind it to put out yet another cash cow. The only difference between Windows Mobile and Android in terms of freedom is the company behind it. There will still be deals with carriers and manufacturers as well as measures in place to limit what you can do with your phone.
I don't understand how people even have phones running Android yet. Google's license agreement for downloading the SDK is so strict, you can't even install it on current hardware without incurring legal action.
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Just my own personal bias, but I'd rather see things like openmoko and qtopia take center stage. Google has the corporate money behind it to put out yet another cash cow. The only difference between Windows Mobile and Android in terms of freedom is the company behind it. There will still be deals with carriers and manufacturers as well as measures in place to limit what you can do with your phone.
I don't understand how people even have phones running Android yet. Google's license agreement for downloading the SDK is so strict, you can't even install it on current hardware without incurring legal action.
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I like the openmoko idea but its since forever that's on beta and its a year that they sold out the beta ones. Will the openmoko OS work on S620?
I don't think that android will be available only for touch smartphones, plus I'm sure someone is going customize it for its own phone and he is going to share it.
Your right about the google corp. and restriction even with android will have them, but I think it will be much easier to go around them. I'm looking forward to by the sgh i780 (even if I prefer HTC) they said its going to be 1st phone with android I wonder what price it will hava, I heard that phones with android are going to cost much less but I'm worried about this. How much do I have to wait to see that phone in stores or internet, they said it would of been out by mid jun but still no trace on the web.
I'm doubting anything is going to be ported to the S620. The Xanadux project has been working on Linux-based software for HTC phones for years, and nothing has come out for the Excalibur yet.
I'm not looking to buy an Android phone. Some members of the Android community have said that, even this phone with a free OS, will cost almost the initial price of the iphone. I don't have one of those either

Who is still planning to stay with WinMo?

Just a simple poll. Please leave a comment as well.
I love HTC to death and everything, but I believe its now time to switch for me. I'll be picking up the Sony Ericsson Xperia X10 once it comes out.
One of the main reasons is that Microsoft is really slow to change. Android has gone through a number of great revisions, whereas it took Microsoft plenty years to go from 6 to 7. Also, I would like a phone that can be used to its full potential by a myriad of apps of out there.
Right now I'm giving myself the impression that I will likely pick up a WP7 eventually. I won't be an early adopter as I love my TP2, and I'm still under contract for a while. But once I'm freed up from that, I'm definitely open to it. There are some things I don't like about WP7, like loosing all my WM6 apps (assuming no one releases an emulator, which I personally think is unlikely), but I think the benefits could outweigh the downsides. Only time will tell though.
Android is flexible, well styled, fast and an ever growing community. was close to getting a HD2 but held out til MWC ... I'm glad I did. I'll be grabbing the Desire in april. while wm 7 looks nice, it's still another 8 or so months away and by then android will probly have a new update on the horizon.
I'm swithering, WM7 looks good but very tempted to go back to Apple when iPhone 4G is launched.
chrism_scotland said:
I'm swithering, WM7 looks good but very tempted to go back to Apple when iPhone 4G is launched.
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I doubt that they will come up with anything that can challenge the HTC Desire...
Seriously, do you expect them to add a bigger WVGA screen, a good camera, faster processor AND more RAM with one single update?
No, that's not how Apple works.
Plus, they would have to add multitasking, cutomizability, better call handling features and a perfect way of handling notifications (because Android DOES is perfectly).
No way.
EDIT: And did I mention the crappy build quality of the iPhone? They knew about issues like hairline cracks and the scratched Apple logo and chrome frame with the 3G, yet they released the 3GS with exactly the same casing that's a piece of junk.
Now I did
I am a newbie in wm world and i find it huge, planning to stay for a while
Anyone looking at the Xperia X10?
btw, that poll here is pure absurd.
consider adding: "No, PDA is dead already", or precise if that poll is just for PHONE users. not everyone has to choose between feeble android, moronic iphone or wm.
if i search for phone, i'd choose PHONE, not moronic trendy BS.
i was with wm because i needed portable computer with all its software(that will soon cease to WORK(or already DID(6.5.x))).
wm7 is end of PDA, imho.
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theomni, are you WM kicker? Android fan or sth?
Android has gone through a number of great revisions, whereas it took Microsoft plenty years to go from 6 to 7. Also, I would like a phone that can be used to its full potential by a myriad of apps of out there.
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Google paid you for this bs or what? android has myriad of BS, not apps, first. there is NOTHING that could be substitute of apps i know for years(since wm03).
it is funny that wm7 will kill MYRIAD of useful apps, especially perfect, freeware ones, made for WM by great people(BEFORE xdadev era, i am not talking about fockin manilla skins here).
happy marketBSplace welcomes, thank you for killing portable computers with mobile windows by turning it into phones for masses(epic FAIL).
and yeah, sorry for my engrish, i dont care.
(topic not suscribed, waste of time).
I'm not going anywhere Windows Phones are awesome
I can honestly say that I will be at the Verizon store the day WP7 comes out. I'll have an upgrade in a couple months, but I'm saving it for WP7.
Just give me 4.3" WP7 and I will buy immediately
No, I wont switch to other platform. I will stick to WM (Currently WM6.1 on HTC Kaiser).
Android is nice, I was about to switch until I saw WP7.
Lucky, I can still "play" around with Android on my HTC Kaiser
I want WP7 on my HD2, winmo for me .
I either will buy a WinMo7 phone - or better - hope there will be a custom ROM for my TouchPro
My take on this is that I'm hoping there will be cooked HD2 ROMs based on WP7, and that I will try them out if there are. I'm currently only 3 months into an 18 month contract with my HD2, and right now I don't see any pressing need to upgrade before the end of the contract period. By that time we may be close to the launch of the next iPhone model after this year's, and Android and Maemo will likely have improved dramatically; so it's impossible to predict what I might do then!
You need more options, my answer would have be HELL YES! WP7! Xbox and Zune and Windows Mobile, what more could I want!
And all these people who keep saying there going to change to android, I really dont get it, Yeh its a nice os, but it still doesnt feel finished to me.
It depends only on upgradeability.
If the HTC HD2 will get the WP7 upgrade, I'll still be buying a Windows Phone. If not, I'll go to Android.
I don't want my $800 device to be obsolete after 3 months.
I love Windows, however I'm going to have to give it up due to my company offering me service from sprint.
You should add another selection for your poll, to early to tell.
We don't know much about the OS yet, and picking a phone is more than just the OS. The actual hardware & features matter too.
Android
Android still has to be rooted before the fun begins,maemo does not.
Have Iphone 3gs today,really good but SOOOO mainstream and booring.
Winmo,big NO think this one have done it`s thing but it was good really good back then.
Maemo for me.
i think its kind of early to make a decision, i've always been a fan of WM but i have to wait for the MIX on march to see how apps will go, and whether WP7 provides access to registry and filesystem in order for us to be able to tweak some things (although i find that unlikely).
we should also wait and see apple's response to WP7 during the summer.
if i move away from windows it will probably be for android, but as i said, i didnt vote because the info we have at this time is very little on the platform

Microsoft (re)confirms HTC HD2s won't run Windows Phone 7 operating system [zdnet]

http://blogs.zdnet.com/microsoft/?p=5475&tag=content;col1
As HD2 owner I am dissapointed.
Again!!
But its just a spokeperson.. so we can't track the source... wich makes it a rumor..
Who cares what someone says at microsoft......they keep saying "No No No" like Amy winehouse....... HD2 can support it with EASE.
The reason why they say "No" is that microsoft has promised manufactuers that NEW OS equals Great Sales.....extacly how they did with the VISTA series !!!
What ever I say to microsoft......they like it or not....WE WILL get WP7S on out HD2 phones.....I love XDA !
One of the main reasons I got the HD2 was that I thought it would be upgradeable... I'm still hoping that it'll happen, one way or another.
I'm passing on the HD2 just beacuse of this reason I got my TP2 and when the HD2 came out I said I would just wait to see what WM7 is going to look like before I upgrade. I'm glad I waited. Guess you guys should have done the same. No one nows if porting to the HD2 will be possible yet so I wouldn't get too excited.
vardig said:
The reason why they say "No" is that microsoft has promised manufactuers that NEW OS equals Great Sales.....extacly how they did with the VISTA series !!!
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Existing hardware on desktops is upgradeable and Microsoft even gave free updates for systems purchased within the months leading up to release.
It's funny how they still leave the door slightly open with their statement.
The first device that has WP7 on it (as long as it doesn't suck) I'll be buying. My Touch Pro is due for retirement.
if you have read the article you will clearly see that the Microsoft spokesperson said that they currently dont have plans to update the HD2...key word being currently. but WP7 wont be out until around christmas....so curruntly they may not have have an update, but by release time they might. sometimes u have to read in between the lines...its something they are deffinatley working on, because if they werent, they could just give a straight answer instead of beating around the bush.
as a owner of an hd2 I would he dissapointed but I am really positive about this for simple reasons. i may be wrong about this but still ill say my opinion .
as a lot of ppl have seen on YouTube there is a video of someone from Adobe with hd2 with flash 10.1 and a (new kind of IE) which according to me is available on wp7s (according to MS a renewed browser with pinch to zoom )
BTW the home button of hd2 can somehow be reprogramed as the search button.
ok on YouTube you see the start menu but you don't see him opening the browser.
as i said I may be wrong but its my opinion.
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the Microsoft spokesperson said that they currently dont have plans to update the HD2...key word being currently
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No, the key word is "don't".
Yeah when someone says they currently don't have any plans it means they aren't going to do it unless it has a major effect on their business if they don't.
really?
Then that means all the 6.X device can not update to windows phone 7 severies !
Hope some oone could tans 7 to 6.X.
I am waiting
If nothing could do to refresh i will think about android or other os.........
Kloc said:
I'm passing on the HD2 just beacuse of this reason I got my TP2 and when the HD2 came out I said I would just wait to see what WM7 is going to look like before I upgrade. I'm glad I waited. Guess you guys should have done the same. No one nows if porting to the HD2 will be possible yet so I wouldn't get too excited.
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Not really... I'm really annoyed that I, (probably) won't be able to get the new OS on my new 'phone, but let's not forget that the HD2 is still one kick-ass mobile, and I am still seriously impressed with it.
The only thing that annoys me is the amount of people who, on seeing my phone for the first time, say "Ooh, is that an iPhone"
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as a owner of an hd2 I would he dissapointed but I am really positive about this for simple reasons. i may be wrong about this but still ill say my opinion .
as a lot of ppl have seen on YouTube there is a video of someone from Adobe with hd2 with flash 10.1 and a (new kind of IE) which according to me is available on wp7s (according to MS a renewed browser with pinch to zoom )
BTW the home button of hd2 can somehow be reprogramed as the search button.
ok on YouTube you see the start menu but you don't see him opening the browser.
as i said I may be wrong but its my opinion.
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Really have no idea what you're talking about, mate.
what a fail...and right before tmo usa will launch their touch hd2...i wonder how this will impact sales. I know I won't switch fully to tmo because of this and unless there's a beta on xda developers very soon, I will not go to touch hd2. I will wait
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what a fail...and right before tmo usa will launch their touch hd2...i wonder how this will impact sales. I know I won't switch fully to tmo because of this and unless there's a beta on xda developers very soon, I will not go to touch hd2. I will wait
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I'm definitely waiting. I was thinking about upgrading to HD2 but I'll just stick with my Touch Pro2 til the holidays.
I've wanted the HD2 from the second I put my eyes on it. It's everything I wanted in a phone minus the slide out keyboard, but the screen size made me willing to bypass that. Then I saw Windows Phone 7 and realized I wanted it on my HD2. Not being able to have it on the HD2 is surely making me reevalutate my future purchase of the tmo HD2 which is released on 3/24.
I may not get the phone at all and I really find that to be a sad thing for myself, HTC, Microsoft and TMobile USA.
Not a huge disappointment. I love the HD2 the way it is. WM 6.5 with HTC Sense does a very nice job in everything I need and use the phone for.
What I don't need is a closed OS with a lot of eyecandy (well, one can argue about that) and xbox integration. Microsoft can state "everything what ppl care about directly at the homescreen" as often as they want. But what I actually care about is efficiency on how I can use the phone. And having big colored blocks on the screen for every possible program/contact/bookmark/pictures/appointment etc. is neither very efficient, nor very effective ...
So glad I didn't wait
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Not a huge disappointment. I love the HD2 the way it is. WM 6.5 with HTC Sense does a very nice job in everything I need and use the phone for.
What I don't need is a closed OS with a lot of eyecandy (well, one can argue about that) and xbox integration. Microsoft can state "everything what ppl care about directly at the homescreen" as often as they want. But what I actually care about is efficiency on how I can use the phone. And having big colored blocks on the screen for every possible program/contact/bookmark/pictures/appointment etc. is neither very efficient, nor very effective ...
So glad I didn't wait
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Well... I should have waited for a good Android phone instead of the HD2.
I'm not at all interested in the dumb iPhone copycat OS that WP7S is. Good UI, but other than that, they've just copied Apple's bad bad policies (out of envy, I think).
I'm not going to adjust myself to an OS that doesn't multitask, doesn't let me install the stuff I want because of Marketplace censorship, doesn't let me manage my files on my own etc.
With Android, like WM6.5, I can have an OS that simply does what I want it to do. I don't have to adjust myself. That's how it should be.
Thus, the only regret I have is that I've not waited for a good Android phone, because WM6.5 is doomed and now nobody will develop anymore for it, whereas the quantity AND quality of the applications on Android has now surpassed Windows Mobile, and the OS itself is almost there.
I'm not sorry either... I change my phones every year - as flashy and useful and nice as they are, they don't last as long as $50 Nokia dumbphones did.
I use my HD2 very heavily and, apart from increased tear, this toy is much more important to me than a regular phone. As such, it absolutely needs to be the best toy around.
Also, the earlier I sell my phones, the more money I'll get.
I love it and enjoy using it for the most part, but by the end of the year I'm sure there will be devices available that I'll want more, and the love affair with HD2 will be pretty much a thing of the past.
Finally, even though I like what I see as regards to WP7, I'm not at all sure it will have the essential apps I need or that it will live up to the promise in its v.1 incarnation.
Android... I can't force myself to like either the OS or the phones carrying it. Yeah, they have multitasking and all, but I'm not buying a principle, I'm buying a phone.
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Android... I can't force myself to like either the OS or the phones carrying it. Yeah, they have multitasking and all, but I'm not buying a principle, I'm buying a phone.
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So Android buyers buy a principle?! Nonsense... they buy Android phones. Simple as that.
And of course, they buy them because they prefer them to other phones.
And of course, Android's features are reasons to prefer Android phones to other phones - and multitasking, for example, is one of them.
I don't like Google, I don't like Java... but if Google's OS is the only one to suit my needs, then I buy a Google phone. Because I'm not buying a principle (i.e. not Google or not Java), I am buying a phone (i.e. the phone that does what I need it to do).

New HTC Windows 7 handset

Does anyone have any news of a new handset from HTC to replace the TP2?
Now that Windows 7 is released I would be expecting HTC to release an updated top-of-the-range business handset to replace the TP2. I've had a TP2 since it came out (and every model prior to that), but it's a bit tired now (not to mention scratched to buggery!). Surely there must be a new flag-ship handset on its way?
I comtacted HTC who in their usual helpful way said "I can help with that question" and then proceded to not help me in the slightest! Their stock answer is we'll tell you when (or if) we feel like it! Obviously, this really encourages me to stay with HTC! These forums tend to be far more informed than anyone else and so maybe someone here has some news, rumours etc?
timfoster said:
Their stock answer is we'll tell you when (or if) we feel like it! Obviously, this really encourages me to stay with HTC!
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Oh come on, all companies don't disclose such information prior to official announcements.
I wouldn't expect minute details of their latest project, but since everyone knows they will be launching a Windows 7 handset, I wouldn't have though it beyond the realms of possibility for them to say we're looking for a Q4 2011 release". Every other company does this, and it not exactly a secret that a handset manufacturer will launch a new handset sometime soon!
And why would you ask something that you obviously already know?
I don't already know. If I did, I wouldn't have been asking. If they aren't going to be releasing one for another year, I'll look at buying an xperia. If they are, I'll hang on.
There are lots of rumors; according to them, they will release maybe not one but several handsets. Officially they are announced as launch partners by Microsoft. There are no official statements from HTC that their support staff can distribute though, so I don't see why you prefer to bug them instead of googling, it'd bring you better results with much less effort.
Before he left, Conflipper disclosed a bunch of previously unknown WP7 and Android HTC devices. That's on top of the Mozart, Mondrian, Spark, Gold, and Schubert that are already rumored.
You got a link?
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You got a link?
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Here
http://wmpoweruser.com/renowned-modder-conflippers-parting-treats/
I read that the HTC Gold_W will come to Sprint with WP7. The _W might be World Phone speculation. No word on CPU but I would prefer a Tegra or Tegra 2 CPU dual core CPU. World phone would be nice. I just hope HTC does not screw up the camera or video recording as usual.
One thing that gets me is the wait till the Holiday season.. I mean common, release at least early/mid November at the latest since I do not want to be waiting in line for a device while I need to get Christmas Shopping done.
(Seriously thinking of Pre-ordering/Waiting in line (if their is one) for the first Sprint based device) I really want to get my hands on one early to see the OS grow, Market it to friends, family, iUsers, and hopefully work my way into a Marketing Position for Microsoft's Mobile Marketing or HTC's Marketing Devision. Both of them really need to push Windows Phone better than any past device thus far.
^ You won't see a CDMA device until sometime next year.
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^ You won't see a CDMA device until sometime next year.
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vetvito said:
^ You won't see a CDMA device until sometime next year.
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yes plz provide info on this Im on a cdma carrier & im waiting for this, I mite have to switch to T-mobile if this is true
No way I am switching from Sprint. I am Pretty darn sure that every carrier is onboard to provide a relase day device (and HTC has the devices for them). No ATT only crap even if they are a "Premiere Partner"
I'm not sure I'm sticking w/ HTC - I want to see what all the devices are and I don't have enough info at this time. I'd like something with a 1.3 or 1.5 GHz dual core, and a nice keyboard is a MAJOR bonus for me... so, we'll see which device has what specs, then I'll decide
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I'm not sure I'm sticking w/ HTC - I want to see what all the devices are and I don't have enough info at this time. I'd like something with a 1.3 or 1.5 GHz dual core, and a nice keyboard is a MAJOR bonus for me... so, we'll see which device has what specs, then I'll decide
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Correct me if I'm wrong (cuz I'm not 100% knowledgable on "dual-core") , but you want a device that runs at 3 ghz?! No one is going to be able to provide that for you at least until Q4 of 2011. Motorola is showing off with their 2 ghz phone in Q4 2010 but 3 Gigs is just impossible...
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Correct me if I'm wrong (cuz I'm not 100% knowledgable on "dual-core") , but you want a device that runs at 3 ghz?! No one is going to be able to provide that for you at least until Q4 of 2011. Motorola is showing off with their 2 ghz phone in Q4 2010 but 3 Gigs is just impossible...
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They've been rumored for a few months, but this is the article I read today that helped me understand the hardware a bit better (and made me think I'll hold out just a touch, if what I'm looking for isn't ready when WP7 goes live).
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sna...bile-CPU-war-beyond-1GHz-article-a_12546.html
If you just google 1.5 GHz Snapdragon and you'll get a ton of rumors etc.
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My bad, I read wrong.
http://www.cellphoneinn.com/2010/07/26/htc-wp7-phone-leaked-hp-show-no-interest-in-wp7/
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They've been rumored for a few months, but this is the article I read today that helped me understand the hardware a bit better (and made me think I'll hold out just a touch, if what I'm looking for isn't ready when WP7 goes live).
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sna...bile-CPU-war-beyond-1GHz-article-a_12546.html
If you just google 1.5 GHz Snapdragon and you'll get a ton of rumors etc.
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WOW, I didn't expect that coming... Imagine an HTC Touch Pro 3 with that dual-core, but I'm still surprised at how Samsung's Hummingbird is performing twice as good as the dual-core when it comes to 2D...

[Q] Any new WP7 phones?

Hi. Fist i want to apologise for my engilsh. In this moment i have android phone Desire Z. I am happy with him, but i really like WP7 UI. I think that WP7 is more faster than Android, more intuitive and more user friendly. Android is too cumbersome. I want to buy some device with WP7, but i think that every device on the market is too old. I mainly point on hardware(CPU, etc..). I know that now it is enought good, but i am looking into the future. I don't want to buy one and after half year buy new one because my is too slow. They show them when Microsoft introduced WP7 and then nothing. I hear every moment about any new Android phone but WP7 totally nothing. Maybe Nokia is going to release any phone but i don't like Nokia. So i ask if is any new phone going to come or no. Maybe from HTC? Samsung? LG?
WooDoo.CZ said:
Hi. Fist i want to apologise for my engilsh. In this moment i have android phone Desire Z. I am happy with him, but i really like WP7 UI. I think that WP7 is more faster than Android, more intuitive and more user friendly. Android is too cumbersome. I want to buy some device with WP7, but i think that every device on the market is too old. I mainly point on hardware(CPU, etc..). I know that now it is enought good, but i am looking into the future. I don't want to buy one and after half year buy new one because my is too slow. They show them when Microsoft introduced WP7 and then nothing. I hear every moment about any new Android phone but WP7 totally nothing. Maybe Nokia is going to release any phone but i don't like Nokia. So i ask if is any new phone going to come or no. Maybe from HTC? Samsung? LG?
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no one knows when the new chassis will come. Maybe in the end of the year. Just wait and see...
Me, I would change phones every months if there were phones, so I don't mind being an early adopter. If you want to keep your phone for a long time, you should probably wait until the second half of the year.
That being said, I doubt current devices will be "slow", but current hardware isn't too sexy anyway.
It won't be considered old or slow for a long time. I was going to wait but got one last month. Wish I had gotten it sooner.
I am still waiting for A decent WP7 to be released as the current generation of WP7 phones on offer are nothing to wright home about, I would get a Samsung Omnia 7 (16GB) or a Focus but nether are offered in Singapore. The other thing holding me back from getting a WP7 phone is no GPS compatible software and WiFi tethering out of the box.
I was so hoping these things would be resolved by now.
Even android is lacking in the GPS maps Available for Asian buyers.
No wonder so many still go for an I phone as all these features are available from the start.
The other area I find window and android a letdown is accessories with nether offering accessories like docking stations and a good range of cases.
At least the Nokia partner ship will resolve the compatible maps for those outside the US. And as most Nokia phones have tethering I hope this will be added as well.
Please release A Nokia WP7 ASAP.
I remember seeing the video demo of mango, running fast on Omnia 7.
The hardware is importent, sure, but if where talking speedwise, i belive my Omnia 7 will live on long. WP7 is a optimized OS against hardware. Android, being a "slaped on os" will always need twice the speed on HW to match WP7.
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And correction, it still cant match in speed and fluid os.
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