Telus has just announced that they will be offering the iPhone starting next month. Since Telus is essentially Canada's Sprint, would it be possible to activate a Telus iPhone on the Sprint network in the US?
Sorry, answered my own question. Telus operates on both GSM and CDMA, the iPhone will be released on their GSM (HSPA+) network. I thought maybe they were releasing a CDMA version...guess I have to wait to see if Verison gets the iPhone when AT&T's exclusivity expires.
Isn't both techs?
I was reading the specs of the phone and it seems to be coming out with both.
These are the actual specs:
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz), GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Doing some research the first set of codes and numbers seems to correlate to what sprint network is.
juansandrade said:
I was reading the specs of the phone and it seems to be coming out with both.
These are the actual specs:
UMTS/HSDPA (850, 1900, 2100 MHz), GSM/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
Doing some research the first set of codes and numbers seems to correlate to what sprint network is.
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Unfortunately, no. Sprint runs on a CDMA (digital) network, while the first and second set of spectrum are all GSM (analog).
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So the users that are going to use this device in the USA on AT&T or T-Mobile, where are you purchasing your device from in the states?
Also does anyone know if I were to use it on AT&T will I have to change the cellular settings or will the device pick up default settings on first boot. I remember there were different APN settings for AT&T and an unlocked device to give it access to faster DL speeds. Does anyone know?
Thanks in advance.
I also would like to know if the international version of One X is HSPA+ 42 mbps capable with T-mobile US?
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No, it's not compatible with T-Mobile US 4G unless you're lucky enough to live in one of the few places where they're using 1900MHz. It'll work with AT&T data roaming at 4G, and it'll work as 2G on T-Mob's own network.
HTC ONE X specs from phone arena:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data HSDPA+ (4G) 21.1 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
UMTS on AT&T works at 850 and 1900 MHz so should be fine, I am not sure about t-mobile. it might work at 1700-2100 so could be kind of a problem...
regarding my personal experience, I have a european desire hd (on at&t), and in the bay area (SF) it gets no more than EDGE connection (I saw 3G icon couple of times ). However Desire HD doesn't work at 850 and 1900 MHz, whereas One X does so... should be fine on at&t.
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HTC ONE X specs from phone arena:
GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data HSDPA+ (4G) 21.1 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
UMTS on AT&T works at 850 and 1900 MHz so should be fine, I am not sure about t-mobile. it might work at 1700-2100 so could be kind of a problem...
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Yep, as I said, there is no 4G on T-Mobile unless you roam to AT&T, or you're in one of a very small number of places in California where they've started using 1900MHz for T-Mob.
I'm trying to buy a GS3 from T-Mobile, but I need it to have AWS 1700/2100, because I'm on Wind Mobile in Canada. But looking on eBay it shows the GS3 to be GSM with no 1700 AWS frequencies. Although, GSM arena does show the following frequencies for the T-Mobile T999:
2G Network GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100
But on TMobile's website it doesn't list 1700/2100 AWS, but it does show Band IV (AWS) which I believe is supposed to be 1700/2100 AWS. This is how it shows on the T-Mobile website:
Band (frequency): 850 MHz;900 MHz;1800 MHz;1900 MHz;UMTS: Band I (2100);UMTS: Band IV (AWS);UMTS: Band V (850)
But on ALL eBay listings it doesn't list Band IV (AWS) or 1700/2100 AWS. It shows the following:
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100
Can someone clarify if the T-Mobile version really has the 1700/2100 AWS frequencies? Appreciate all the help.
Yes. T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 bands for Their HSPA+ network. It should work fine for you.
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Yes. T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 bands for Their HSPA+ network. It should work fine for you.
Throwing bricks since 2008.....and proud of it.
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I think the OP's point was that all eBay listings have the phone listed as: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900 (Quadband) HSPA+ 850/900/1900/2100
If indeed all eBay listings show this, then those phones would not work on Wind. There is no 1700 in that frequency band description. So unless all these eBay sellers got the specs wrong (which would be a really big coincidence) or if indeed TMobile has more than one version, then those Tmobile USA branded phones will not work on Wind Mobile.
Update: I just took a quick look on eBay and all listings do indeed list the phone specs without the AWS 1700 spectrum. But Tmobile's website does show the UMTS Band IV listed in the GS3 specs. And Band IV is another name for AWS 1700/2100. But hey, if every eBay listing is not listing the AWS 1700 spectrum in the specs, then maybe T-Mobile does indeed have 2 different models.
They don't. (well they have 16gb and 32gb versions but, that's irrelevant to this discussion) Ebay sellers often cut and paste descriptions in their listings leaving people confused
T-Mobile uses the 1700/2100 bands. I should know, not only do I have THAT version of the SGSIII....but it must have those bands to get HSPA+ on T-Mobile's network. That's one of the reasons AT&T and most, international versions of phones (One X tegra 3 version comes to mind), ONLY GET EDGE.
The other option is that the listing is for the international SGSIII which IS NOT compatible with T-Mobile's HSPA+ network.
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I live in Israel. I used to live in the US. Last time I was in the US I bought this phone and brought it over. I did my research beforehand and knowingly purchased the phone assuming I would have full compatible with Israeli service providers...
Now, I'm not so sure anymore. I just tried the phone today.. maybe 5 hours of use. Still have the default OS installed. No root or anything. The signal seems to fluctuate going between Edge and higher speed networks.
Here's what it says about Cellcom on wikipedia:
Cellcom eventually sought to replace the 850 MHz TDMA frequencies it owns with standard 900 MHz GSM frequencies but Pelephone and Partner (Orange) petitioned the Ministry of Communications to deny this for technical reasons. This put Cellcom at a disadvantage since though most of its users had converted to GSM, they were not able to make use of the lower frequency's better in-building penetration and greater cell reach.
With its entry into 3G wireless services Cellcom demoed the first mobile video call in Israel. Since the beginning of 2006, Cellcom began deploying a 3G UMTS-2100 network nationwide which by the end of 2007 covered than 87% of the population. Cellcom was the first in Israel to launch an HSDPA network (also called "Generation 3.5") nationwide. In 2011, Cellcom began to deploy UMTS services in the 850 MHz band, employing unused capacity in that frequency range since it had very few TDMA customers remaining. The Israeli Ministry of Communications has approved Cellcom's plan to shut down the TDMA-850 network on 31 December 2011.
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It supports the following networks:
GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, SMS, MMS, iMode
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I just put the SIM card back in my old international Galaxy 2 i9100T and it'll fluctuate between HSDPA: 8 and HSPA+:15. Also it displays an H icon in the status bar (I don't think Resurrection rom is capable of displaying an H+).
Anyway, I'm going to put the SIM back in the Galaxy 3 t999. It now fluctuates between EDGE: 2, HSPAP: 15, HSPA: 11, and UMTS: 3. The signal is shifty and only displays a 3G at the top, no H like the international Galaxy 2.
Here's what wikipedia lists as the differences between the two models of the Galaxy 3 (standard international i9300 and my t-mobile t999):
Model GT-I9300;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+
no 4G of course
max speed: 21 Mbit/s HSPA+
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Model SGH-T999;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 1,700 (AWS/Band IV), 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+
no 4G either
max speed: 42 Mbit/s DC-HSPA+
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and this is what gsmarena.com says about the cellular capabilities of Israel:
2G capabilities: Required GSM 900 Recommended GSM 900 and GSM 1800
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3G capabilities: Required UMTS 2100 Recommended UMTS 850 and UMTS 2100
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So what do you think is going on??? Doesn't the t-mobile Galaxy 3 t999 support all the networks that Israel currently has operating???
I took my T999 to Israel about a week after buying it in the States.
While vacationing there, I got an Orange SIM with a local number and a 5GB plan.
Everything was working fine. My phone was on 3G almost everywhere in the country, and it rarely dropped below three bars.
Is your phone unlocked? Could it be a Cellcom problem? Try borrowing a friend's Orange SIM and see if it works any better.
Yea it's unlocked. Even despite the speed issue I'm starting to think maybe I should have gotten the international version, there's nowhere near as much development for this version. Maybe I can trade?
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Yea it's unlocked. Even despite the speed issue I'm starting to think maybe I should have gotten the international version, there's nowhere near as much development for this version. Maybe I can trade?
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But we have a more functioning Jellybean.
I was wondering if I purchase an unlocked HTC one, will it work with Verizon?
You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused
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You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!
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gunnyman said:
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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Okay, I checked and the Frequencies are the same but HTC One unlocked says nothing about CDMA. Thanks for the help
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My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused
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VZW uses two different technologies.
the voice is carried on CDMA as is their 3G EVDO data.
LTE is used, but not the same bands as AT&T or T-Mobile.
The only major carriers in the US on GSM are T-Mobile and AT&T (and their mvno's)
Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?
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Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?
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Nope
No
Stop nope, just no.
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA as their base on their Network. The only HTC One with CDMA is the Sprint version. But you can't use the Sprint version on Verizon.
That's why when the Sprint version was released developers had to tweak their roms and recoveries since the outside was the same but the insides no.
Yes LTE is gsm based and requires a GSM radio. And yes when the Verizon HTC one is released it can be used on TMo and AT&T. Since it has both CDMA & GSM radios.
But NO NO NO you CAN NOT use a AT&T, T-Mobile, Dev Edition,Sprint, or Iternational HTC One on Verizon.
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which is required for voice.
Until Voice over LTE is fully implemented voice is still falling back into CDMA.
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Thanks for your help! I realized I was misunderstanding the way those specs were written, thinking a single phone carried all those ranges and could work equally across the board.
I'm leaning towards getting an unlocked phone for T-Mobile. Any suggestions on where to get it from? If I get it from T-Mobile then it will likely have bloat on it which I don't care for. I could get it from Google Play or HTC's shopamerica...Is there an "easy" way to determine whether or not a phone will fully function on a particular network? Clearly my line of thinking on just making sure the frequency ranges match up is rather off!
Depends what freq your carrier uses for 3G etc. Only the international and dev edition are bloat free. But your at xda there are threads all over the place to help you debloat.
Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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So if I travel internationally and want to have the use of LTE, it sounds like I would need to get the unlocked "international" One? If the so-called "developer" version of the One doesn't have the 1700 band, will one of the other bands take over/compensate? In other words, will the developer phone still be fully functional? I also assume that by "developer" phone you're referring to both the unlocked 32 and 64Gb phones sold at shopamerica.com?
Lastly, here's what I'm doing: I want to buy a phone that I can use in the US and if I travel to Canada, I want to make sure it is compatible with their networks too so all I would need to do is pick up a new sim card and be off to the races. If I'm understanding everything, then the phone on shopamerica should be sufficient.
Any thoughts? Thanks again for the help! I've never dealt with network matching and unlocked phones. Can you tell?!
Stick with the developer edition since it offers more 3G bands ... LTE outside the US it would depend if whatever carrier you use on that country uses any any of the LTE bands it supports.
A lot of the major carriers around the world use similar 3G bands most will work on this phone. Again it all depends on which carried you use.
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I currently have a Verizon HTC 10 but am wanting to make the switch to T-Mobile. Anyone know if I would be able to use my phone on T-Mobile's network? I tried Google but mostly everything was about using an Unlocked HTC 10 on Verizon.
If the Verizon HTC 10 is unlocked, then in "most" places it will work including cellular data. Continue reading...
Below is the network info for HTC 10 from Verizon and specs do show that 3g/4g(UMTS) should work find as long as you are in 1900 band area. It is because the phone is missing 1700 that T-Mobile is using. As for LTE signal, you are covered I have made bands in "bold" and they represent T-Mobile compatible bands that Verizon model has.
CDMA: 800, 1900 MHz, GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz , UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz, LTE: Band 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 13, 20, 28
https://www.verizonwireless.com/smartphones/htc-10/