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American T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 and travel

Will I be ok travelling with this phone to Europe and Canada and getting 3G? Will the bands work? If not, is there something that can be done to make it work? I'm abot to get one and would like to confirm.
Thanks.

tinpanalley said:
Will I be ok travelling with this phone to Europe and Canada and getting 3G? Will the bands work? If not, is there something that can be done to make it work? I'm abot to get one and would like to confirm.
Thanks.
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the t-mobile rhodium supports UMTS 1700 and UMTS 2100 so if canada and/europe use those bands for UMTS (3G) then yes it will work. If not, the device is quad band GSM so no problem using voice and EDGE for data.
Also make sure the device is unlocked if you plan to put another carrier's SIMcard in the device.

tinpanalley said:
Will I be ok travelling with this phone to Europe and Canada and getting 3G? Will the bands work? If not, is there something that can be done to make it work? I'm abot to get one and would like to confirm.
Thanks.
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Not sure about Canada...but TmoUSA 3G bands are different than Euro-3G.
Unrelated, but worth mentioning: the T-Mobile USA international roaming charge for data is steep -- $15/megabyte.
If you got a Euro sim card that would fix the $, but not the radio (for 3G).

The T-Mobile version supports AWS and 2100 3G so works fine in Europe and most other locations. Had 3G T-Mobile and 3G Orange in the UK, but I would suggest a local SIM too. For the UK, both T-Mobile UK prepaid and Virgin UK prepaid work in a locked T-Mobile TP2 or get it unlocked for more choices.

jamssx said:
The T-Mobile version supports AWS and 2100 3G so works fine in Europe and most other locations. Had 3G T-Mobile and 3G Orange in the UK, but I would suggest a local SIM too. For the UK, both T-Mobile UK prepaid and Virgin UK prepaid work in a locked T-Mobile TP2 or get it unlocked for more choices.
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You used a T-Mobile USA version of the TP2 in Europe and had a usable 3G data connection?? Hmmm...that's the first I've read of this.
If this is well-known (and if so, maybe I'm just clueless ) can you provide a link to more discussion, that is...uhh...evidence...of it? Not about what bands the USA version supports -- I know that part -- but other reports/disucssion of it actually working.
On the other hand, are there any reports of a Euro-TP2 that can work on 3G bands in the USA?

USA TMO TP2 will work on TMO 3G in USA. It may also work on WIND Mobile for 3G data here in Canada, not sure about voice as they are using some strange network setup.
As the phone is UMTS 2100 capable, it will get 3G data and voice in most places in Europe and Asia.

quid246 said:
USA TMO TP2 will work on TMO 3G in USA. It may also work on WIND Mobile for 3G data here in Canada, not sure about voice as they are using some strange network setup.
As the phone is UMTS 2100 capable, it will get 3G data and voice in most places in Europe and Asia.
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Have you tried a TmoUSA TP2 in Europe or Asia -- yourself -- and accessed 3G data?
I'm still doubtful, but I actually hope I'm wrong 'cause I'd love to be able to get 3G data on my TmoUSA TP2 while traveling in Europe...as long as I get a Euro sim card. Otherwise, faster data just means more roaming-$$.

MCbrian said:
Have you tried a TmoUSA TP2 in Europe or Asia -- yourself -- and accessed 3G data?
I'm still doubtful, but I actually hope I'm wrong 'cause I'd love to be able to get 3G data on my TmoUSA TP2 while traveling in Europe...as long as I get a Euro sim card. Otherwise, faster data just means more roaming-$$.
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Check the specifications. It supports both 1700 and 2100 UMTS. That means it will work in Europe. ALL Touch Pro 2's have 2100MHz UMTS and quadband GSM, every single one of them, including the CDMA ones. The carrier specific ones add certain bands.
European Touch Pro 2s have UMTS 900
CDMA Touch Pro 2s have CDMA bands
T-Mobile USA has 1700MHz AWS band
AT&T has 850/1900MHz UMTS

TP2 overseas vs versions
I believe, as I've use phones often in the US and overseas, that T-mobile uses 1700 UMTS in the US, but that their TP2 is also 2100 UMTS. Just as At&t Tilt uses 850 & 1900 UMTS (At&t requires both frequencies), but also has 2100 UMTS. As such, both should work in most European, African and Asian countries (verizon and sprint you,re mostly screwed).
I believe the older Tytn II (tilt) was sold world wide as a 850/1900/2100 phone, so you could basically buy it anywhere and use it here on At&t only for 3g or T-mobile Edge only. Unfortunately, the TP2 is sold mostly as a 900/2100 UMTS worldwide outside the US, so you are stuck buying the US versions that correspond to the US networks. The bonus of the At&t tilit 2 version is that it is 850/1900/2100, so it will work almost anywhere. The drawback of the T-mobile TP2 is that 1700 is used by almost no one and while you can use it in most of the aforementioned places, you can't use it in the Americas outside the US & Canada.
Check out this handy wiki UMTS page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
Just a note, I almost always pick up a pay as you go sim in other countries- much cheaper and very little hassle. Worth it for anything over a week stay. Maybe not as much so in some of Western Europe.

drjby4 said:
I believe, as I've use phones often in the US and overseas, that T-mobile uses 1700 UMTS in the US, but that their TP2 is also 2100 UMTS. Just as At&t Tilt uses 850 & 1900 UMTS (At&t requires both frequencies), but also has 2100 UMTS. As such, both should work in most European, African and Asian countries (verizon and sprint you,re mostly screwed).
I believe the older Tytn II (tilt) was sold world wide as a 850/1900/2100 phone, so you could basically buy it anywhere and use it here on At&t only for 3g or T-mobile Edge only. Unfortunately, the TP2 is sold mostly as a 900/2100 UMTS worldwide outside the US, so you are stuck buying the US versions that correspond to the US networks. The bonus of the At&t tilit 2 version is that it is 850/1900/2100, so it will work almost anywhere. The drawback of the T-mobile TP2 is that 1700 is used by almost no one and while you can use it in most of the aforementioned places, you can't use it in the Americas outside the US & Canada.
Check out this handy wiki UMTS page: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Deployed_UMTS_networks
Just a note, I almost always pick up a pay as you go sim in other countries- much cheaper and very little hassle. Worth it for anything over a week stay. Maybe not as much so in some of Western Europe.
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That is correct. Apparently they are only able to have 3 3G frequencies (though NTT DoCoMo is currently working on a chip that can handle 8 frequencies!)
At first Europe only used 2100MHz 3G and AT&T had set up on 850MHz/1900MHz. Since those were the only 3 bands, HTC would put all three of those bands in its phones up to the Tilt (Kaiser). Once they made the Raphael though, there was 900MHz 3G in Europe and T-Mobile had chosen the AWS band.
Since they can apparently only put 3 bands in, and Europe now needed two for 900MHz/2100MHz, they could no longer put but of AT&T's frequencies in. So they must have just dropped them.
The AT&T version (FUZE) has 850MHz/1900MHz and also has 2100MHz, which is the dominant band for 3G in Europe. I am not sure if they are using 900MHz there yet, but they decided that was more important to put in the European ones than AT&T's bands.
T-Mobile's 3G phones get AWS and 2100MHz. I think AWS might use 2 of the bands because it is split on 1700MHz and 2100MHz (but a different 2100MHz apparently, maybe low 2100MHz vs high, I'm not sure)

petard said:
Check the specifications. It supports both 1700 and 2100 UMTS. That means it will work in Europe. ALL Touch Pro 2's have 2100MHz UMTS and quadband GSM, every single one of them, including the CDMA ones. The carrier specific ones add certain bands.
European Touch Pro 2s have UMTS 900
CDMA Touch Pro 2s have CDMA bands
T-Mobile USA has 1700MHz AWS band
AT&T has 850/1900MHz UMTS
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It doesn't just support 1700 and 2100, it uses both to work: 1700 for up/send and 2100 for down/receive. So, how does the Tmo USA radio cope without 1700 band for up/send when it's expecting it?
petard said:
T-Mobile's 3G phones get AWS and 2100MHz. I think AWS might use 2 of the bands because it is split on 1700MHz and 2100MHz (but a different 2100MHz apparently, maybe low 2100MHz vs high, I'm not sure)
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So, the full story (?) is that T-Mobile uses 1700+2100 (up/down) in the USA (which is what I already understood/knew) and in addition to that pair there's a separate slightly-different 2100 band that's used outside the USA? -- That, I didn't know.
If that's the explanation, that makes sense. But confusing that there's 2 different 2100 bands...
I may have to use some frequent-flyer miles and go check it out...

MCbrian said:
So, the full story (?) is that T-Mobile uses 1700+2100 (up/down) in the USA (which is what I already understood/knew) and in addition to that pair there's a separate slightly-different 2100 band that's used outside the USA? -- That, I didn't know.
If that's the explanation, that makes sense. But confusing that there's 2 different 2100 bands...
I may have to use some frequent-flyer miles and go check it out...
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According to Wikipedia, UMTS Band I (commonly known as 2100MHz) uses 1920 - 1980 for uplink and 2110 - 2170 for downlink while UMTS Band IV (AWS, 1700MHz) uses 1710 - 1755 for uplink and 2110 - 2155 for downlink.
Band II (1900MHz) uses 1850 - 1910 for uplink and 1930 - 1990 for downlink and band V (850MHz) uses 824 - 849 for uplink and 869 - 894 for downlink. The uplink and download for these are close, unlike bands I and IV.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
I just assume they are only able to have 3 different frequencies since I have yet to see a UMTS phone with 4 frequencies. But as I wrote this, I'm not too sure because there were phones with Band I, Band II, and Band IV which would mean that there are chips capable for 4 different frequencies? Who knows, maybe someone with actual technical knowledge about this can say.
Also according to that page, there are five different UMTS bands deployed across the world. A bit of a pain. That is more then GSM ever had and who knows if it will grow to even more. LTE also will be coming in before GSM is phased out, so we are going to have to have phones that have GSM, UMTS, AND LTE. GSM will be no problem, quadband has been standard for a while, but having a phone that has both your carriers UMTS and LTE frequencies is going to be tough unless you buy it from your carrier.
What they should have done is just used the band names, and not their frequencies. It would be much easier to know that Europe runs on band I and T-Mobile USA runs on band IV and the T-Mobile Rhodium supports both Band I and Band IV.

[Q] HTC Desire Z A7275 (Bell Edition)

Hello, I have a HTC Desire Z A7275 (Bell Edition) phone, unlocked. The specifications are:
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA (850/1900 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
Here is my question:
I am planning to travel to UK & Europe next month. 1 Will this phone work on in UK & Europe? 2 Will this phone support 3G or 4G network in UK & Europe? 3 What are my options with phone in UK & Europe? What network will this phone support?
Thanks

My understanding is UK and Europe are on GSM 900/1800 MHz (voice, EDGE) and WCDMA 2100 MHz (3G). So you will have voice and EDGE service, but no 3G. But I have not personally been to Europe with this phone yet, so can't verify personally.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html

nlp1090 said:
Hello, I have a HTC Desire Z A7275 (Bell Edition) phone, unlocked. The specifications are:
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA (850/1900 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
Here is my question:
I am planning to travel to UK & Europe next month. 1 Will this phone work on in UK & Europe? 2 Will this phone support 3G or 4G network in UK & Europe? 3 What are my options with phone in UK & Europe? What network will this phone support?
Thanks
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You will be able to use voice and 2G/EDGE data with any of the GSM carriers in Europe (just buy a local SIM and you should be good to go). Unfortunately, little or no 3G or 4G support (pretty sure that almost all countries in Europe support 2100 or 900 with the newer towers---850/1900 is limited to mainly the Americas and some parts of Australia, with a few other small regions here and there).

nlp1090 said:
Hello, I have a HTC Desire Z A7275 (Bell Edition) phone, unlocked. The specifications are:
Network:
HSPA/WCDMA (850/1900 MHz)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850/900/1800/1900 MHz)
Here is my question:
I am planning to travel to UK & Europe next month. 1 Will this phone work on in UK & Europe? 2 Will this phone support 3G or 4G network in UK & Europe? 3 What are my options with phone in UK & Europe? What network will this phone support?
Thanks
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redpoint73 said:
My understanding is UK and Europe are on GSM 900/1800 MHz (voice, EDGE) and WCDMA 2100 MHz (3G). So you will have voice and EDGE service, but no 3G. But I have not personally been to Europe with this phone yet, so can't verify personally.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
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So what about this option: Sony Ericsson Xperia X10i
Specification: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850-900-1800-1900
UMTS/HSPA BAND 1/4/8
will this work on 3G or 4G? All of this is so confusing to understand..Thank you

ianmcquinn said:
You will be able to use voice and 2G/EDGE data with any of the GSM carriers in Europe (just buy a local SIM and you should be good to go). Unfortunately, little or no 3G or 4G support (pretty sure that almost all countries in Europe support 2100 or 900 with the newer towers---850/1900 is limited to mainly the Americas and some parts of Australia, with a few other small regions here and there).
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So what about this option: Sony Ericsson Xperia X10i
Specification: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850-900-1800-1900
UMTS/HSPA BAND 1/4/8
will this work on 3G or 4G? All of this is so confusing to understand..Thank you

nlp1090 said:
So what about this option: Sony Ericsson Xperia X10i
Specification: GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850-900-1800-1900
UMTS/HSPA BAND 1/4/8
will this work on 3G or 4G? All of this is so confusing to understand..Thank you
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Every phone has two sets of bands.
GSM/GPRS (EDGE, 2G Bands)
UMTS/HSPA (3G Bands)
As posted earlier in the thread, most European countries use 2100mhz for 3G. So if you want a phone with 3G access, look for the 2100mhz band under the UMTS/HSPA portion of the specifications.
*Edit*: Not sure how reliant you will be on 3G but when I was in Europe last summer, data rates were not cheap. Also, Wifi hotspots were readily available in every major city that we traveled to and most times they were free to access. We purchased a cheap 'dumbphone' for emergency phone calls and used an Ipod Touch and my old Touch Pro to access the web over wifi.

gbarayah said:
Based on the Specs you have listed, no it will not work on 3G.
Every phone has two sets of bands.
GSM/GPRS (EDGE, 2G Bands)
UMTS/HSPA (3G Bands)
As posted earlier in the thread, most European countries use 2100mhz for 3G. So if you want a phone with 3G access, look for the 2100mhz band under the UMTS/HSPA portion of the specifications.
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Actually, 2100 MHz is Band 1 when talking about UMTS. 900 MHz is Band 8. So this phone will support 3G data in pretty much all of Europe.

ianmcquinn said:
Actually, 2100 MHz is Band 1 when talking about UMTS. 900 MHz is Band 8. So this phone will support 3G data in pretty much all of Europe.
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Thanks for the correction. Removed the bad info from my post!

Was it a mistake bringing this phone to Israel?

I live in Israel. I used to live in the US. Last time I was in the US I bought this phone and brought it over. I did my research beforehand and knowingly purchased the phone assuming I would have full compatible with Israeli service providers...
Now, I'm not so sure anymore. I just tried the phone today.. maybe 5 hours of use. Still have the default OS installed. No root or anything. The signal seems to fluctuate going between Edge and higher speed networks.
Here's what it says about Cellcom on wikipedia:
Cellcom eventually sought to replace the 850 MHz TDMA frequencies it owns with standard 900 MHz GSM frequencies but Pelephone and Partner (Orange) petitioned the Ministry of Communications to deny this for technical reasons. This put Cellcom at a disadvantage since though most of its users had converted to GSM, they were not able to make use of the lower frequency's better in-building penetration and greater cell reach.
With its entry into 3G wireless services Cellcom demoed the first mobile video call in Israel. Since the beginning of 2006, Cellcom began deploying a 3G UMTS-2100 network nationwide which by the end of 2007 covered than 87% of the population. Cellcom was the first in Israel to launch an HSDPA network (also called "Generation 3.5") nationwide. In 2011, Cellcom began to deploy UMTS services in the 850 MHz band, employing unused capacity in that frequency range since it had very few TDMA customers remaining. The Israeli Ministry of Communications has approved Cellcom's plan to shut down the TDMA-850 network on 31 December 2011.
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It supports the following networks:
GSM, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, SMS, MMS, iMode
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I just put the SIM card back in my old international Galaxy 2 i9100T and it'll fluctuate between HSDPA: 8 and HSPA+:15. Also it displays an H icon in the status bar (I don't think Resurrection rom is capable of displaying an H+).
Anyway, I'm going to put the SIM back in the Galaxy 3 t999. It now fluctuates between EDGE: 2, HSPAP: 15, HSPA: 11, and UMTS: 3. The signal is shifty and only displays a 3G at the top, no H like the international Galaxy 2.
Here's what wikipedia lists as the differences between the two models of the Galaxy 3 (standard international i9300 and my t-mobile t999):
Model GT-I9300;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 900, 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+
no 4G of course
max speed: 21 Mbit/s HSPA+
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Model SGH-T999;
2G networks: 850, 900, 1,800, 1,900 MHz GSM / GPRS / EDGE
3G networks: 850, 1,700 (AWS/Band IV), 1,900, 2,100 MHz UMTS / HSPA+ / DC-HSPA+
no 4G either
max speed: 42 Mbit/s DC-HSPA+
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and this is what gsmarena.com says about the cellular capabilities of Israel:
2G capabilities: Required GSM 900 Recommended GSM 900 and GSM 1800
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3G capabilities: Required UMTS 2100 Recommended UMTS 850 and UMTS 2100
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So what do you think is going on??? Doesn't the t-mobile Galaxy 3 t999 support all the networks that Israel currently has operating???

I took my T999 to Israel about a week after buying it in the States.
While vacationing there, I got an Orange SIM with a local number and a 5GB plan.
Everything was working fine. My phone was on 3G almost everywhere in the country, and it rarely dropped below three bars.
Is your phone unlocked? Could it be a Cellcom problem? Try borrowing a friend's Orange SIM and see if it works any better.

Yea it's unlocked. Even despite the speed issue I'm starting to think maybe I should have gotten the international version, there's nowhere near as much development for this version. Maybe I can trade?

PhrostB said:
Yea it's unlocked. Even despite the speed issue I'm starting to think maybe I should have gotten the international version, there's nowhere near as much development for this version. Maybe I can trade?
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But we have a more functioning Jellybean.

[Q] Can I use a Korean note 2 in the US?

I recently purchased a galaxy note 2 in Korea and I would like to bring it back and use it in the states with AT&T. I read that 4g would not be compatible with the phone but 3g will work? I plan to use this phone for business and I realized the 1 is not designated as voicemail due to it being a Korean phone. Is there way to add this feature on? Are there any other features that I will not be able to use with AT&T? I realize I won't be able to watch tv on my phone anymore.

JelliK said:
I recently purchased a galaxy note 2 in Korea and I would like to bring it back and use it in the states with AT&T. I read that 4g would not be compatible with the phone but 3g will work? I plan to use this phone for business and I realized the 1 is not designated as voicemail due to it being a Korean phone. Is there way to add this feature on? Are there any other features that I will not be able to use with AT&T? I realize I won't be able to watch tv on my phone anymore.
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Try to root it n install you custom software,Do your homework around the forms n find the stuff you need n support the developers? You won't regret it! !
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda premium

Dnice25 said:
Try to root it n install you custom software,Do your homework around the forms n find the stuff you need n support the developers? You won't regret it! !
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I317 using xda premium
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I don't want to root it and I prefer to keep it stock. I just need to know if the phone will work with At&t's 3g network. It would also be nice if i could fine a way to check my voicemail.

JelliK said:
I recently purchased a galaxy note 2 in Korea and I would like to bring it back and use it in the states with AT&T. I read that 4g would not be compatible with the phone but 3g will work? I plan to use this phone for business and I realized the 1 is not designated as voicemail due to it being a Korean phone. Is there way to add this feature on? Are there any other features that I will not be able to use with AT&T? I realize I won't be able to watch tv on my phone anymore.
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Frequencies used on the AT&T Network (USA)
Frequency Protocol Class
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
1700/2100 MHz(AWS) LTE 4G
T-Mobile (USA)
850 MHz/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G (EDGE)
1700 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G
1700 MHz LTE 4G
If that's the international version Note II check and see what frequency's it supports,and compare to AT&T or T-Mobile's. International devices are not carrier locked
If it's a branded phone meaning you got it from your cellar carrier, It could be locked to that provider only.
If your using the unlocked phone, look up the specs on your device and see what it supports, if it matches up to the above frequencies you should be good

budco2000 said:
Frequencies used on the AT&T Network (USA)
Frequency Protocol Class
850 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G
850 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA 3G
700 MHz LTE 4G
1700/2100 MHz(AWS) LTE 4G
T-Mobile (USA)
850 MHz/1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPA
1900 MHz GSM/GPRS/EDGE 2G (EDGE)
1700 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G
1900 MHz UMTS/HSPA/HSPA+ 3G/4G
1700 MHz LTE 4G
If that's the international version Note II check and see what frequency's it supports,and compare to AT&T or T-Mobile's. International devices are not carrier locked
If it's a branded phone meaning you got it from your cellar carrier, It could be locked to that provider only.
If your using the unlocked phone, look up the specs on your device and see what it supports, if it matches up to the above frequencies you should be good
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Ok so I got these specs for my svh-250k and looks like 3g will be compatible but it also picks up umts 2100 and att LTE frequency uses 2100 for 4g. Am I wrong? Do I need to look at the secondary cellular network?
SVH-250K
Cellular;Networks: GSM850, GSM900, GSM1800, GSM1900, UMTS1900 (B2), UMTS2100 (B1)
Secondary_Cellular_Networks: LTE850 (B5), LTE1800 (B3)
Should I sell my korean note 2 and purchase one in the states? I really would hate to get rid of my brand new amberbrown 32 gig phone and downgrade to a boring white or pebble blue 16gig phone. Decisions decisions.....

I'm in the same situation did you already go back to the states and try it out?

JelliK said:
I'm in the same situation did you already go back to the states and try it out?
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This thread is nearly 5 months old, and the OP only posted 4 times in this thread....total...
You will likely not get an answer from the OP...
Do a general search for info on the Korean note threads...as we have 4 or 5 that may help you in getting your answer....
Good luck to you....g

JelliK said:
I'm in the same situation did you already go back to the states and try it out?
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Just reading the specs I would go with T-Mobile, Faster HSPA speeds if you decide to keep your amber brown. Only downside is T mobile's coverage isnt as good as AT&T but if you re in a major city it shouldnt be a problem.
Good luck!

[Q] Can I use an unlocked HTC One with Verizon?

I was wondering if I purchase an unlocked HTC one, will it work with Verizon?

You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!

in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.

gunnyman said:
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused

Guich said:
You have to see the frequencies of the carrier
But, probably, yes!
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gunnyman said:
in a word, no.
It has no CDMA radio, which is required for voice. Not to mention VZW hasn't ever let you bring a device to their network from the outside.
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Okay, I checked and the Frequencies are the same but HTC One unlocked says nothing about CDMA. Thanks for the help

Guich said:
My friend said me that verizon use GSM radio...
I'm confused
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VZW uses two different technologies.
the voice is carried on CDMA as is their 3G EVDO data.
LTE is used, but not the same bands as AT&T or T-Mobile.
The only major carriers in the US on GSM are T-Mobile and AT&T (and their mvno's)

Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?

d-pabs said:
Hi, it looks like I'm reviving this thread...
I've done a bit of homework and on htc.com the One specs are as follows:
2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
850/900/1800/1900 MHz
3G - UMTS/ HSPA:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Asia: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
Canada/ Latin America: 850/1900/2100 MHz up to HSPA+ 42 Mbps
T-Mobile (US): 850/ AWS/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps
AT&T: 850/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 21 Mbps
Sprint: 1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 14.4 Mbps
3G - CDMA:
800/1900 MHz for Sprint
4G - LTE:
Europe/ Middle East/ Africa: 800/1800/2600 MHz
Asia: 1800/2600 MHz
T-Mobile (US)/ AT&T/ Canada/ Latin America: 700 MHz and AWS band
Sprint: 1900 MHz
On the Samsung Galaxy S4 for Verizon:
LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)
It looks to me like the phone supports all ranges and has both styles/types of radios. Has anyone been able to get an unlocked One working with Verizon? Does anyone know how to do it? If I buy an unlocked One, would it come packed with all the network support as listed above or do they manufacture them with only a specific radio/frequency range in mind?
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Nope
No
Stop nope, just no.
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA as their base on their Network. The only HTC One with CDMA is the Sprint version. But you can't use the Sprint version on Verizon.
That's why when the Sprint version was released developers had to tweak their roms and recoveries since the outside was the same but the insides no.
Yes LTE is gsm based and requires a GSM radio. And yes when the Verizon HTC one is released it can be used on TMo and AT&T. Since it has both CDMA & GSM radios.
But NO NO NO you CAN NOT use a AT&T, T-Mobile, Dev Edition,Sprint, or Iternational HTC One on Verizon.
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which is required for voice.

Until Voice over LTE is fully implemented voice is still falling back into CDMA.
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Thanks for your help! I realized I was misunderstanding the way those specs were written, thinking a single phone carried all those ranges and could work equally across the board.
I'm leaning towards getting an unlocked phone for T-Mobile. Any suggestions on where to get it from? If I get it from T-Mobile then it will likely have bloat on it which I don't care for. I could get it from Google Play or HTC's shopamerica...Is there an "easy" way to determine whether or not a phone will fully function on a particular network? Clearly my line of thinking on just making sure the frequency ranges match up is rather off!

Depends what freq your carrier uses for 3G etc. Only the international and dev edition are bloat free. But your at xda there are threads all over the place to help you debloat.
Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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Tachi91 said:
Again T-Mobile is the only one with 1700 3G band.
The dev doesn't have 1700, but has other extra bands. And the international lacks LTE.
Only Verizon will sell their version of the ONE. All the others are all over the internet.
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So if I travel internationally and want to have the use of LTE, it sounds like I would need to get the unlocked "international" One? If the so-called "developer" version of the One doesn't have the 1700 band, will one of the other bands take over/compensate? In other words, will the developer phone still be fully functional? I also assume that by "developer" phone you're referring to both the unlocked 32 and 64Gb phones sold at shopamerica.com?
Lastly, here's what I'm doing: I want to buy a phone that I can use in the US and if I travel to Canada, I want to make sure it is compatible with their networks too so all I would need to do is pick up a new sim card and be off to the races. If I'm understanding everything, then the phone on shopamerica should be sufficient.
Any thoughts? Thanks again for the help! I've never dealt with network matching and unlocked phones. Can you tell?!

Stick with the developer edition since it offers more 3G bands ... LTE outside the US it would depend if whatever carrier you use on that country uses any any of the LTE bands it supports.
A lot of the major carriers around the world use similar 3G bands most will work on this phone. Again it all depends on which carried you use.
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