SilverLight for Windows Mobile 6.5 - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/devices/details.mspx?id=907
I was checking out the new HTC Imagio. There's a link to install Silverlight. Is this somethnig that's been developed in the cook roms?

Call me silly, but I'm not seeing anything about Silverlight through that link. I do believe Silverlight will be a standard in WM7, but seeing in in 6.5 would be awesome.

Arcarsenal said:
Call me silly, but I'm not seeing anything about Silverlight through that link. I do believe Silverlight will be a standard in WM7, but seeing in in 6.5 would be awesome.
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"For the best phone-browsing experience, download the Microsoft Silverlight plug-in now."
it says it right on the top where it shows the phone.

lilchip85 said:
"For the best phone-browsing experience, download the Microsoft Silverlight plug-in now."
it says it right on the top where it shows the phone.
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It's talking about browsing the phones on your computer. If you have Silverlight installed on your (computer) browser, you don't get that message.

Interesting; are you both browsing that link on your device? I'm at work, and using Google Chrome on the desktop I don't see that text. Using Internet Explorer 8 w/ Silverlight I get a dramatically different webpage that uses Silverlight, but still no text about a mobile version.
That's very intriguing though, perhaps we will be seeing a mobile version soon. Is there any way to download the mobile Silverlight on the pages you are seeing?
edit:^^^ that makes sense as well.

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Silverlight 4 Likely as Dev Platform

Given Andy Lees quote about WP7: "It's a very sort of advanced platform that really works across PC, phone, and console," it seems likely he's talking about Silverlight 4, especially given the boost in features that it's getting for version 4. I find this to be a very suitable platform for what they're trying to do. You can't beat multi-platform & RIA support - dev once, run on all. What do you think?
Still very propretiary
chribruu said:
Still very propretiary
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So what? All current phones only support native applications that are created with a proprietary SDK. The big exception is Java which is executed in a VM, but these applications cannot use the full potential of each platform, because they must aim for the lowest common denominator. So without modifications, no native application will run on all platforms.
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It's not any different than the current situation really. How many people write WM code in anything other than Visual Studio?
Basically a different set of GUI libraries on .Net 3.5.
Hope they'll make SL4 available on WM6.5, too. That way it would be a much better platform choice.
You're all right. I replied without really thinking my post trough. :/
The only thing bad with SL (and flash) is if/when they become web "standards".
Just disregard that post
Sorry for the OT.
from the little i have read/seen. it seems like this will prob be the case..
Silverlight will be one of the dev platforms, along with C++ with a XAML UI.
in this video
"Behind the Design of Windows phone 7" on youtube (i could not post the link)
1:25 - 1:29
you can see the ide for wp7.
it looks like blend. that would definitely mean xaml for ui.
pensoffsky said:
in this video
"Behind the Design of Windows phone 7" on youtube (i could not post the link)
1:25 - 1:29
you can see the ide for wp7.
it looks like blend. that would definitely mean xaml for ui.
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And as I said, C++ with a XAML UI...
XNA C#, no dubt for the games.
It's available for the Zune HD, I guess it will follow on to WP7
But maby not for the UI?? any thoughts?
From XNA.com :
XNA Game Studio 3.1 Zune Extensions, to support Zune HD, adds the following functionality to the product:
The ability to target and develop for the Zune HD media player.
The addition of new Touch APIs to the XNA Framework for use on the Zune HD.
The addition of new Accelerometer APIs to the XNA Framework for use on the Zune HD.
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I don't really believe, that they'll be using an unmanaged language for the application developement itself (other than drivers of course).
I think it would be most likely to be using C#, perhaps more in the way of how most android apps use java, e.g. it's precompiled on deployment.
What I really hope for is that, there is no longer the limitation of 32 mb per process.

Official Windows Phone 7 Series Pics and Screens (Showcases OS and UI)!!!

I have tons pics of the Windows Phone (Mobile) 7 series for those who have been living under a rock for the last couple of days. The pictures exhibit the core of the OS and the UI.
Click on Each Individual Pic to Zoom in
Lock & Home Screen
Web Browser
Zune Music & Video
Pictures Hub
People Hub
Xbox Live Hub
About Windows Phone 7​
​Microsoft's latest mobile OS behaves completely different from previous iterations which may be a major selling point or a deal breaker. The UI is elegant, simplistic, and fully animated, no other OS is close in comparison. It's innovation at it's finest. Its pretty obvious what type of user MS was aiming towards just by glancing at the screen shots, and you can't blame them. That was how iPhone gained such huge ground.
​WinPho 7's interface, codenamed "Metro", is visually similar to the Zune HD. Unlike previous edition of windows mobile, Windows Phone 7 isn't powered by Windows CE kernel, but it is rather based on said embedded OS. It seems like MS main focus is push notification, social networking and finally integrating their other services like Zune Marketplace and Xbox Live.
Ballmer didn't announce much about the hardware requirements, but he did say that there was a capacitive screen requirement. So gone are the days of using your stylus in Excel, Office, or Bubble Breaker.
What make windows Phone 7 Series stand out is the attention to detail, animations, and overall look of the OS. The keyboard is completely overhauled, it's bigger and translucent. The Lock screen is carried over from the Zune HD, it only displays important notifications like new messages, missed calls, and updated status. Unfortunately it doesn't display appointments. The home screen consists of animated tiles or hubs that serve as links to other features of the OS. The home screen is sorta reminiscent of Androids, by allowing you to pin any App, Contact, Picture, Bookmark, etc.
My Opinions​​It's pretty clear that I like the revisions or I would've denounced it in this post. The animations are uncanny and The overall experience may make it easy to use, but this is just speculation. I own an Xbox 360 and have Live for Windows on my PC so achievements are pretty big to me and it's nice to see MS being the first to integrate such a feature into a mobile device.
​As happy as I am, there are still things that have me upset. The home screen just looks bland and flat, couldn't they have added some kind 3D element and why is there no background image? The apps menu only shows one row of apps in alphabetical order, which may make it easier to find app, but may get tedious once your App collection grows. I feel they should have used the same view they have for the contacts in the Apps menu, it would've been leagues better than just one row of apps.
My Question and Conclusion ​​Like a lot of you forum goers, I'm pretty stuck on the fence on this one. Still many things I want to know such as:
How does the OS handle Multitasking?
What level of Customization is available?
Will OEMS be allowed to differentiate themselves from each other?
What about SDK and 3rd party software?
Details on Compatibility with Phones like the HTC HD2, Toshiba TG02 & K01 or other devices releasing in 2010.
What are the Hardware requirements.
What's the fate of Winmo 6.5?
Is there compatibility with Legacy Apps and vice versa?
More info on MS's plan for Cloud computing
How far along are you with flash support?
The name is Windows Phone Series, does that mean there will be other versions of the OS, Maybe a Lite Version for Older Phones?
What about Cabs & File Browsing?
​MS's latest revision may look more treacherous than adventurous to "Hardcore" users and fans of Winmo. Love or hate it, this mobile OS isn't finish, there's much to be revealed at MIX10 and we won't see a release date anytime soon
Stay tuned, in a couple days I will have animated gifs that demonstrates the UI animations.
Whatever it is, I like it a lot. And I would love to have it on my X1....I hope some DevGods try to make it for my X1...
ANd BTW, Thanx for the pix!
Your Welcome. As far as compatibility goes for older Qualcomm 72xx chipset devices like your X1 or the Touch HD, I'm not to sure whether you will get a update. I know I won't, because I have a Palm Treo Pro and Palm just left me dry (No Updates For even Winmo 6.5). MS titled this OS Windows Phone 7 Series. There may be other versions such as a business version or a lite version for users of older devices.
i don't like it
musungus77 said:
i don't like it
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I didn't at first, but it's growing on me...
circleofomega said:
Whatever it is, I like it a lot. And I would love to have it on my X1....I hope some DevGods try to make it for my X1...
ANd BTW, Thanx for the pix!
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musungus77 said:
i don't like it
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I love the menus of the OS and the way it operates. I just don't like the home screen.
Wow...does no one find these pics interesting? I'm the first to post them to this forum.
krjcook said:
Your Welcome. As far as compatibility goes for older Qualcomm 72xx chipset devices like your X1 or the Touch HD, I'm not to sure whether you will get a update. I know I won't, because I have a Palm Treo Pro and Palm just left me dry (No Updates For even Winmo 6.5). MS titled this OS Windows Phone 7 Series. There may be other versions such as a business version or a lite version for users of older devices.
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That's true; Microsoft could have an unannounced "Windows Phone Professional Series." That would probably be where everyone here would go. Or maybe that's what the current Windows Mobile Professional will be (probably and hopefully not).
Windows Phone 7 Series = Zune HD + Phone... (what? i heared a similar story before... oh yes.. it is called "iPhone OS", an ipod.. with phone... )
I like the UI, yes.. but i will miss the things that windows mobile had.. like a file explorer (the best file explorer for mobile devices i must say), full customizacion thanks to this community...
All would be better if they just could add special effects to their current UI... (windows mobile with animations and that stuff)...
just saying...
Isaygarcia said:
Windows Phone 7 Series = Zune HD + Phone... (what? i heared a similar story before... oh yes.. it is called "iPhone OS", an ipod.. with phone... )
I like the UI, yes.. but i will miss the things that windows mobile had.. like a file explorer (the best file explorer for mobile devices i must say), full customizacion thanks to this community...
All would be better if they just could add special effects to their current UI... (windows mobile with animations and that stuff)...
just saying...
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MMM... The Ipod Touch was more application oriented (At least it became app oriented after the iphone and the installer.app became popular) Whilst the Zune HD is more MultiMedia Oriented. Only reason ipods ever win is their app base... my friend has 3 fart apps, a light saber app, and bump... not really...a phone
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Your Welcome. As far as compatibility goes for older Qualcomm 72xx chipset devices like your X1 or the Touch HD, I'm not to sure whether you will get a update. I know I won't, because I have a Palm Treo Pro and Palm just left me dry (No Updates For even Winmo 6.5). MS titled this OS Windows Phone 7 Series. There may be other versions such as a business version or a lite version for users of older devices.
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NOw thats wht I am talking about.."The Lite Version"...thst wht I would LOVE to have on X1..but again, its a far fetched dream..
Isaygarcia said:
Windows Phone 7 Series = Zune HD + Phone... (what? i heared a similar story before... oh yes.. it is called "iPhone OS", an ipod.. with phone... )
I like the UI, yes.. but i will miss the things that windows mobile had.. like a file explorer (the best file explorer for mobile devices i must say), full customizacion thanks to this community...
All would be better if they just could add special effects to their current UI... (windows mobile with animations and that stuff)...
just saying...
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I can't wait too see what the talented people in this forum can do for this platform. They done leagues to enhance and customize Winmo 6.5
I love what I've seen and thanks for the pictures. Here's why I love it. On my 8525 running 6.5.3 I currently install these 3rd party programs: Resco Explorer, Resco Photos, Coreplayer, Icontact, Facebook, Thumbcal, SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, JZ Browser (love it!), Opera Mini 5, Schaps Advanced Configuration, Arcsoft MMS Messenger and Google Maps. That's just the ones I have to put in to feel the phone is great(which it is for when it was made). With the 7 Series I don't think I'd need any of these programs so how much of an improvement has MS made (gigantic!). Not to mention how interactve the hubs are and how easy these programs they have work together. So far so good. I can't wait to get more info at MIX.
I must say that before I got my HTC Touch Pro 2 I knew nothing about Windows Mobile. But after visiting this forum and trying a few ROMs I must admit that Windows Mobile is awesome! So, I'm waiting to see what's going to happen with Windows Phone 7 (I really hope this is not the official name of the OS). However, MS has a habit of trying to compete with Apple and I just wish they would forget about Apple and build a rock solid OS.
The first thing I read about WP7 is that it needs a Massive CPU (1ghz). So I thought Oh my god here whe go again, MS needs to rely on high hardware specs again to get the thing going, wich could mean another FAIL programming.
Afther watchting the demo I must say that I like the interface verry much, and I can only hope it will realy be as fast as they want you to believe it is.
I also think it is a good thing that they started from scratch because most (not all) of the old apps are useless anyway. The biggest problem being the wide variaty of phone hardware wich makes in imposible to deliver dedicated-always working-allways equally fast- software. (a problem that the Iphone doesn't have, everything you download is fast, and works) and I only dream that my HTC HD would work that well, but it just doesn't (even with the great custom roms you guys make, the CPU doesn't cut it)
The only thing that I want from a phone is full PC compatibility and SPEED. Thats what windows phone looks like to going to offer, but I also like to be able to put on my phone what I want, and that is a big question mark with this new OS.
addicus said:
I love what I've seen and thanks for the pictures. Here's why I love it. On my 8525 running 6.5.3 I currently install these 3rd party programs: Resco Explorer, Resco Photos, Coreplayer, Icontact, Facebook, Thumbcal, SPB Mobile Shell 3.5, JZ Browser (love it!), Opera Mini 5, Schaps Advanced Configuration, Arcsoft MMS Messenger and Google Maps. That's just the ones I have to put in to feel the phone is great(which it is for when it was made). With the 7 Series I don't think I'd need any of these programs so how much of an improvement has MS made (gigantic!). Not to mention how interactve the hubs are and how easy these programs they have work together. So far so good. I can't wait to get more info at MIX.
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Same here, I can't wait to see what Features and other hidden Details MS has in store @ MIX10
circleofomega said:
NOw thats wht I am talking about.."The Lite Version"...thst wht I would LOVE to have on X1..but again, its a far fetched dream..
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the X1 isn't a great device when compared to the Touch Pro 2. I think Windows Phone 7's requirements don't feature older devices running the Qualcomm 72xx chips.
krjcook said:
Windows Phone 7 isn't powered by Windows CE kernel
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Really?
Shasarak said:
Really?
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Yes, Windows Phone 7 doesn't isn't powered by Windows CE 6.0. But like the Zune HD it's based on CE 6
krjcook said:
Yes, Windows Phone 7 doesn't isn't powered by Windows CE 6.0. But like the Zune HD it's based on CE 6
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Ummmm no. I'm not sure what your definition of "powered by" is but in my world "based on" is the same thing (especially in this case).
Windows CE is a modular, embedded operating system that can be customized with tons of various components and then added onto if the developer chooses. In this case, the end developer is Microsoft and they're adding on their own UI, .net, silverlight, etc (not sure how similar the included .net/silverlight in CE6R3 is to WP7).
So basically Microsoft picks and chooses what parts of CE they want to use as a starting point and then adds on. CE is not a "complete" OS in itself really. It is designed exactly for this sort of purpose.
"Powered by", "based on", whatever you want to call it but CE is most certainly the kernel and core of Zune (classic and HD), Windows Phone, etc. It's most likely CE6R3 but could be 6R2 or even CE7.

Silverlight the platform for creation Windows Phone 7 apps

Looks like Silverlight is the platform for creating Windows Phone 7 apps, finally.
http://www.crn.com/software/222900433;jsessionid=ZSTDUKCIARR4FQE1GHPCKHWATMY32JVN
I hope so, SIlverlight rocks, so much better on my PC than Flash but yet it isnt widely adopted, hopefully if WP7S has Silverlight this will boost its use
Finally!
It is indeed a very logical step.
I was trying to make a "fancy" UI on WinMo 6x and it's damn hard (that will work blazing fast). And search for a Silverlight for WinMo... and it was there... and it was showed on the TechEd 08... but never released... and I was like:
-Oh ... come on... how long does it take to port it??!
This is almost like a "duh" story but it's good to have a "source" saying it.
Silverlight will be for lightweight stuff and XNA 3 (4?) will be for Games, etc.
Imagine being able to write one app and have it work on multiple platforms with little or even no code changes. Silverlight supports multi-touch on Windows 7 too.
XNA and Silverlight. No native apps - see attach.
Can you already create SL applications for the WinMo?
DMAND said:
I hope so, SIlverlight rocks, so much better on my PC than Flash but yet it isnt widely adopted, hopefully if WP7S has Silverlight this will boost its use
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Yes silverlight rocks and i am learning it right now.
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Yes silverlight rocks and i am learning it right now.
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Know any application? Link?
Developing .NET CF on WM6 is a -pain-. Even if you want to do something as simple as draw a transparent image you have to delve into P/Invoke which feels like hacking. If they get .NET development under WP7 working simply and effectively, then I think it will be a great step forward. I've used WPF extensively and it is a great platform to work on. I've no reason to think Silverlight is any different.
My only concern is how they'll restrict the distribution and installation of applications. The openness of the Windows Mobile platform has always been a big draw, and if they do an Apple and try to restrict how I publish and obtain apps then not many people will see a reason to switch from such an established and successful platform.

Can Some WP7 Users Test A Website For Me?

Hello...
I'm working on a mobile version of a website and I don't know anyone with windows phone 7.
Would a couple people be willing to try and break it and tell me if something doesn't work?
I have access to test with windows mobile 6.5, android, iphone, and blackberry.
http://www.flcbranson.org/mobile.php
Thanks...
JJ
Looked good to me. Navigation was clean and fast, and the audio links all worked fine.
The only problem I saw was that all of the "Most recent" links on the free downloads page took me to the same place - the current schedule page.
Oh, boy...
Thanks for pointing that out.
I used ? instead of &.
JJ
That showed up another problem.
Apparently, my code on listseries.php was funked and it showed the same Recent Messages instead of the messages for each series.
JJ
Functioned well for me on a Samsung focus
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Runs smooth and looks good on my HD7.
Do the mp3 links just start playing or does it require the file to download and open separately?
WM6.5 only downloads.
JJ
They started playing immediately for me.
it is working very well
Hello, again...
Would some of you wp7 guys test another link for me?
I'm working on some streaming mp4 video and it's working for iphone/ipad, but not android or desktops.
I'm wondering if it works for wp7.
http://www.flcbranson.org/iphone.html
Thanks...
JJ
Fa310tx said:
Hello, again...
Would some of you wp7 guys test another link for me?
I'm working on some streaming mp4 video and it's working for iphone/ipad, but not android or desktops.
I'm wondering if it works for wp7.
http://www.flcbranson.org/iphone.html
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JJ
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No, it does not work. It tries to play it as a video (in full screen), but then it says that it can not play the video. Are you using a video format that Windows Phone 7 is supposed to support?
I don't have the foggiest idea.
It's a live stream that is going through a third-party streaming company (we encode, live, and stream to them, then everyone connects to them for the stream).
I've just implimented the code that they provided and it works for apple devices, but nothing else.
JJ
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Apparently, it works on a mac with safari, but not windows with safari.
JJ
Sorry, we can't play this file on your phone.
Fa310tx said:
Hello, again...
Would some of you wp7 guys test another link for me?
http://www.flcbranson.org/iphone.html
Thanks...
JJ
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I get a white page that says "Live" in the top left. This is the same whether I choose "desktop" or "mobile" settings in my browser
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Hello, again...
http://66.119.8.164/xml-freedownloads.php
I'm not concerned about how things look or function, just what background color shows up in portrait and landscape.
In theory, it should be blue for portrait and orange for landscape.
Please test with any browswer that windows phone 7 supports, if possible.
Thanks...
JJ
Seems to work with IE9 (WP build 7712)
However you can't read headlines/Links in portrait mode since they blend with the blue background
Color changes (so does the font size but i'm guessing that has to do with whatever you tied to the orientation). So to verify above, you're good on the 7712 mango build.
Yeah, the functionality of it is meaningless, at the moment.
I was in the middle of testing some xml loading and decided to try some css media query stuff.
It's lame, though, as my windows mobile 6.5 internet explorer isn't using media="handheld" or min/max-width.
JJ
Worked perfectly here.

Bringing "fiinixfox" (firefox) to WP7

Bringing firefox to wp7 (wince build)
- http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org//firefox/releases/3.6rc1/
In the ftp there is a wince-arm build & source code. We do have c++ full access (compile, run, call, etc); where the whole firefox runs from within "taskhost.exe" (COM+) instead of the "firefox.exe" (due we cant launch our own exe's).
As of we have now (The Dllimport Project):
Code:
[ComImport, Guid("F0D5AFD8-DA24-4e85-9335-BEBCADE5B92A"), ClassInterface(ClassInterfaceType.None)]
public class FileSystemClass { }
[ComImport, Guid("2C49FA3D-C6B7-4168-BE80-D044A9C0D9DD"), InterfaceType(ComInterfaceType.InterfaceIsIUnknown)]
public partial interface IFileSystemIO { ... }
- It would look something like this in the "fiinixfox" :
Code:
[ComImport, Guid("F0D5AFD8-DA24-4e85-9335-BEBCADE5B92A"), ClassInterface(ClassInterfaceType.None)]
public class FirefoxClass { }
[ComImport, Guid("2C49FA3D-C6B7-4168-BE80-D044A9C0D9DD"), InterfaceType(ComInterfaceType.InterfaceIsIUnknown)]
public partial interface IFirefox { Start(string args) }
- Yep, one method "Start", which actually imitates the "mozilla.exe" exe entry point 0x00400000 (standard entry point address).
- Then from there taskhost is just a "host" with as little Silverlight code as possible (best if just App.xaml) (no MainPage.xaml, MainPage is actually started from App.xaml) (or no Silverlight at all).
We do have the full source (3.6) (wince-arm), so there is not much preventing us to replace (hehe) IE9.
Well, as said before, im on vocation and i don't have my desktop (just my phone ), so this is just speculations witch i will compile later on bringing "fiinixfox" to Microsoft Windows "locked down" Phone
Hope it sounds good
Oh that sounds totally awesome! Can't wait!
FF isn't the most mobile friendly in term of optimization and performance. You would have to do a lot of backend work to make it 'usable' on any ARM device. I hope you can get some blessing from mozilla, but most of them are anti-microsoft. So good luck with your effort.
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FF isn't the most mobile friendly in term of optimization and performance. You would have to do a lot of backend work to make it 'usable' on any ARM device. I hope you can get some blessing from mozilla, but most of them are anti-microsoft. So good luck with your effort.
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Ever heard about fennec?
The mobile version of firefox produced and optimized by Mozilla themselves
ARMvX wince compatible.
i remember fennec being awfully slow and crashing :x
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Ever heard about fennec?
The mobile version of firefox produced and optimized by Mozilla themselves
ARMvX wince compatible.
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And Fennec is the crappiest browser ever made. I am more interested in what Opera has to offer.
diboze said:
i remember fennec being awfully slow and crashing :x
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On what device?
Did that device have 1GHz, 500MB ram~?
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It probably crashed alot due incapability or unstable code, a browser does not just crash randomly if its valid code through out the whole program (valid method pointers)
- Invalid method pointers: Static compiled dll reference (method ptr) that is pointing to wrong ram method (due wrong ".lib" - contains the ptr's). = Crash
Relief2010 said:
And Fennec is the crappiest browser ever made. I am more interested in what Opera has to offer.
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Is opera even open source?
From what i have read/searched its closed source :/
To be able to run any "other" browser i must have full source code.
Your idea sounds interesting, but we still have this Mango COM Block problem to solve without going back to NoDo. I'm wondering what the authors of TouchXplorer & Co will do about that.
Yet another problem is that Win CE was more like Windows as we know it from the Desktop. Point and Click, Hold Click for right click and so on. I doesn't exactly know how we can refit Firefox for newer Touch Devices with Gesture and Multitouch support. Wouldn't it not be easier, if we just use the rendering engine from Firefox and port it to an Silverlight app? Guess this won't work due to some WP7 limitations and we would end up rewriting it completely?
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Is opera even open source?
From what i have read/searched its closed source :/
To be able to run any "other" browser i must have full source code.
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Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Aaron McCarthy said:
Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Actually, Opera did not said that.
fiinix said:
Is opera even open source?
From what i have read/searched its closed source :/
To be able to run any "other" browser i must have full source code.
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Currently, the only two are available with source code.
Firefox for Windows CE: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/Projects/WindowsCE
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WebKit for Windows CE: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WinCE
Aaron McCarthy said:
Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
Sent from my SGH-i917 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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Seems pike the rumors got you; turned out to be "False alarm".
- http://m.wpcentral.com/opera-wp7-launching-ctia
> At the bottom: false alarm (also "next week we will see opera" < did never happen
Microsoft have protected their phone to only run IE :/
They don't want competitor's
- Only way is homebrew, sry
fiinix, I am wondering if it will be easier to port Firefox for CE or WebKit for CE to Windows Phone.
rudelm said:
Your idea sounds interesting, but we still have this Mango COM Block problem to solve without going back to NoDo. I'm wondering what the authors of TouchXplorer & Co will do about that.
Yet another problem is that Win CE was more like Windows as we know it from the Desktop. Point and Click, Hold Click for right click and so on. I doesn't exactly know how we can refit Firefox for newer Touch Devices with Gesture and Multitouch support. Wouldn't it not be easier, if we just use the rendering engine from Firefox and port it to an Silverlight app? Guess this won't work due to some WP7 limitations and we would end up rewriting it completely?
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There is full touch support and multitouch support due some wm6 had touch screens
Mango.. yeah.. Im currently still running NoDo due i hate block. But im perfectly fine.
I did actually find a possible interop bypass in Mango (fake marketplace, OEM hijack)
day2die said:
fiinix, I am wondering if it will be easier to port Firefox for CE or WebKit for CE to Windows Phone.
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Webkit is also a possible but i havent looked at it yet; maybe port Google Crome?
fiinix said:
Webkit is also a possible but i havent looked at it yet; maybe port Google Crome?
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No, I mean WebKit was already ported to CE: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WinCE
It's also the base for Isis Browser.
day2die said:
No, I mean WebKit was already ported to CE: http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WinCE
It's also the base for Isis Browser.
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Yeah i know Webkit is already ported to CE; Chrome uses it too and combined it makes Chrome super fast if it would be used on WP7 (CE).
Well we cant only have Webkit, we need a Javascript engine too (witch google is combined with (V8 JS engine) + built in Webkit).
Maybe Chrome or Firefox, both are c++ and open source
Aaron McCarthy said:
Opera is said to be releasing an official browser for WP7. They announced that a month ir so ago. I assume it will coincide with the release of Mango
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Prooflink?
I wouldn't mind seeing Opera for WP7 - mainly because I was always impressed with the combination of speed, stability, and functionality it produces on other platforms (in particular WM6.x). Dolphin would be interesting as well.
As a Mango user, however, I must say I am thoroughly impressed at the speed and stability mobile IE9 produces (in beta, no less). At release it will undoubtedly be the superior mobile browser on the market.
And oh yeah, Firefox is buggy crap - in any form.

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