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Hi guys, i am getting a universal from the UK in about 2 weeks and i have some questions.
1. Is it unlockable yet?
2. Is bluetooth stable, not cutting off during calls and stuff?
3. Since it is WCDMA, does that mean i can use it with CDMA services here in the states like sprint and Verizon?
4. What is the best case for it
Thanks for reading my questions, you replies will be greatly appreciated.
obiesoft said:
Hi guys, i am getting a universal from the UK in about 2 weeks and i have some questions.
1. Is it unlockable yet?
2. Is bluetooth stable, not cutting off during calls and stuff?
3. Since it is WCDMA, does that mean i can use it with CDMA services here in the states like sprint and Verizon?
4. What is the best case for it
Thanks for reading my questions, you replies will be greatly appreciated.
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Hi Obiesoft,
1. Not yet to my knowledge... Keep an eye on the 'universal' unlocker from this forum. An app that is updated over and over to add support for new phones.
2. Did not try yet, sorry, one of the other ones ?
3. Most likely not. UMTS here in Europe is on 2100 Mhz, as radio bands are of course regulated per country, you might want to see with your wireless provider if they a) use 'UMTS or WCDMA' as a standard, and b) if they also operate on the 2100 Mhz band. In the phone there is only one band available for UMTS connections.
GSM in general is provided in bigger cities in the states, you have to check which wireless provider has it in your area, some might even have the Qtek 9000 with an interesting price if you take one of their plans.
(T-Mobile) Be carefull nevertheless, the USA has GSM services on 1900 Mhz and on 850 Mhz, the Universal can do w/o a problem the 1900 Mhz band, but to my knowledge not the 850 Mhz band. You would be out of luck if your cellular provider only provides services on this band. Check also if you have to be a lot in rural areas, as far as I notices coverage there is way less on GSM systems.
4. I'm happy with the 'leatherishlike' one it comes with. Sleek, and it does protect it very well. Snug, just no belt-clip, that's all.
Hope you'll be having fun with your device ! (Well, all depends of course if you can get it either sim-unlocked or from one of your local providers...)
Willem
Thanks
Thanks for your reply
I hope there will be an unlocker soon, i have Tmobile here in Florida, i will call to find out of they use 1900 or 850Mhz. I will probably try asking Tmobile UK or something.
The reason for me asking if it will work with USA CDMA is that i also have an account with a CDMA provider so it would be cool if i could use two providers on one phone, probably switching between them.
I have a MDAIII with WM5 and the bluetooth does not work, keeps d/c so i hope this one stays on with the MDA PRO.
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obiesoft said:
Thanks for your reply
I hope there will be an unlocker soon, i have Tmobile here in Florida, i will call to find out of they use 1900 or 850Mhz. I will probably try asking Tmobile UK or something.
The reason for me asking if it will work with USA CDMA is that i also have an account with a CDMA provider so it would be cool if i could use two providers on one phone, probably switching between them.
I have a MDAIII with WM5 and the bluetooth does not work, keeps d/c so i hope this one stays on with the MDA PRO.
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I know that T-Mobile Germany sells the device w/o SIMlock. Might be an option. The QTEK versions of the device come also w/o SIMlock. I don't know if T-Mobile Germany ships the device outside europe, you might want to have a look at http://www.expansys-usa.com, they have a Spanish version of the QTEK you can easily reflash to the WWE version, new and not locked for a whopping 1045 USD.
P.S. I have no commercial relation to either T-Mobile or Expansys and both links are provided only for informational purposes.
Obiesoft, I have PM'd you.
simlock
t-mobile.germany has no SimLock - that's right!
but they did a NETLock!! - you#ve got to pay 100-300 € to get it unlocked for other networks. If You know where to find Band-Information i can tell you if it supports yours.
Universal is not working on CDMA One/CDMA 2000/EVDO networks.
In US, it will work for voice calls and GPRS on the 1900 networks like T-Mobile US. You will have to wait for T-Mobile US to launch UMTS (WCDMA) as it is planned, but I'm not sure they will use the same bands as in Europe.
MDA PRO
I did not check here sooner, my girlfriend is in london and she got the MDA PRO since she just renewed her contract. I am guessing it will be locked cause she is just shipping it and i will get it next week. Tmobile UK said they can unlock it for 15 pounds and it will take 28 days, so in the mean time i am hoping there is another way for me to unlock it.
HI all, thanks here for all your help. I finnaly have my unlock code from T-mobile UK, for 30 pounds, but i think it is workth it.
Now using the PRO as a phone, it is kinds weird to get used to. I live inthe US and i put my T-MOble US sim card in, when i check the settings, i found out for some strange reason that the GSM band it was using was EGSM+DCS1800, i don't know what this band is, but i noticed that i don;t get enought bars, always loosing signal, and i have put the new 1.08 radio rom on it. My SK65 gets better signal.
The only other option i see there for GSM band is PCS1900, so i have manually set it to this. My question is, which band should i be using? whats the diffrence? and when setting up WAP for MMS, do i use WAP1.2 or WAP2.0.
Also does the UTMS2100 mean it will work on Sprints 2100 network?
Thanks.
Search is your friend
All of the Universal forums are full of information about why the MDA Pro is not as useful in the US because it is just Tri-Band. T-Mo USA uses GSM/GPRS 1900 for voice and data. You need to stick to this band alone. Try using WAP 1.2 for WAP. There's no EDGE available on the Uni.
No, Sprint won't work It's different technology using a different standard. You can only use UMTS in Europe, the Middle and Far East. That's why this device is targeted for these markets and was never brought to North America. And it never will be.
Let's hope the successor to the Universal can do it by incorporating the latest technologies prevalent in North America.
Hi I am form New Zealand and I am thinking of getting a HTC Diamond.
Now New Zealand telecom uses the WCDMA network, and I suspect the phone will be CID locked as well.
A good friend of mine has a diamond from Germany which he has flashed several times (Radio+Roms) (he is using Vodafone in New Zealand, which is GSM)
I would like to know if I can follow the normal steps that I would do on a GSM phone on a CDMA phone. Which would be: HardSPL (e.g. Olinex 1.4)-> flash Radio or ROM.
What do I need to look out for, are there special HardSPL versions or ROMS available, or can I use any ROM or Radio?
in my defence, I really tried to find informaion here ono what to do with a CDMA phone but I couldn't find any helpful threads.
So please help me out or send me links for more information.
Thanks a lot
konrad.schafers said:
Hi I am form New Zealand and I am thinking of getting a HTC Diamond.
Now New Zealand telecom uses the WCDMA network, and I suspect the phone will be CID locked as well.
A good friend of mine has a diamond from Germany which he has flashed several times (Radio+Roms) (he is using Vodafone in New Zealand, which is GSM)
I would like to know if I can follow the normal steps that I would do on a GSM phone on a CDMA phone. Which would be: HardSPL (e.g. Olinex 1.4)-> flash Radio or ROM.
What do I need to look out for, are there special HardSPL versions or ROMS available, or can I use any ROM or Radio?
in my defence, I really tried to find informaion here ono what to do with a CDMA phone but I couldn't find any helpful threads.
So please help me out or send me links for more information.
Thanks a lot
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Although there are many APPs that can be used here on this forum for CDMA, Radio's, Roms & Hard SPL's require you to visit ....HERE
band27 is right, ppcgeeks is the best place to go for you HTC CDMA needs.
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll check that site out.
Do you reckon it would be impossible to put a rom listed in this forum onto a CDMA phone. E.g. Shaks v4.0? Since my friend strongly recommends that and he doesn't know anything about specific CDMA ROMs. It just seems that it can be a lengthy path till you find the right ROM
How can I tell in advance whether an app will work or not?
konrad.schafers said:
Thanks for the quick reply.
I'll check that site out.
Do you reckon it would be impossible to put a rom listed in this forum onto a CDMA phone. E.g. Shaks v4.0? Since my friend strongly recommends that and he doesn't know anything about specific CDMA ROMs. It just seems that it can be a lengthy path till you find the right ROM
How can I tell in advance whether an app will work or not?
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ABSOLUTELY NOT regarding ROM's....you will brick your device. Most APPs are fine though.
GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U R ABOUT TO MAKE THIS GUY BRICK HIS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
using WCDMA doesnt mean that ur phone is cdma!!!!!
wcdma is a coverage by the gsm if i am not mistaken.
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band27 is right, ppcgeeks is the best place to go for you HTC CDMA needs.
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dude,make ur own research
dont flash anything until u talked to ur phone company n asked them if ur phn is cdma or gsm
from what i know , wcdma is a coverage of gsm.
wcdma and cdma is not the same thing or network
I am still not clear even after reading an article on wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WCDMA
maybe this is a better wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Mobile_Telecommunications_System
maybe some experts can comment on this.
@konrad.schafers, you should NOT PERFORM ANY FLASH until you are sure which category your Diamond is.
deeren said:
dude,make ur own research
dont flash anything until u talked to ur phone company n asked them if ur phn is cdma or gsm
from what i know , wcdma is a coverage of gsm.
wcdma and cdma is not the same thing or network
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For the love of God, calling your phone provider to inquire whether your device is GSM or CDMA is not necessary.
Simply open the backing to your device and check if you have a SIM card.
SIM Card = GSM
No Sim Card = CDMA
In New Zealand Telecom has always had CDMA (no SIM), after Vodafone introduced 3G they will introduce W-CDMA (the way I see it it is a hybrid between GSM-UMTS and CDMA.
Here is the quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_New_Zealand)
On the 8 June 2007, Telecom announced a plan to build a hybrid W-CDMA/UMTS-CDMA network [14], based on the WCDMA HSPA technology, to replace its current CDMA EV-DO network. The network is planned to go online in June 2009 [15] running at 850 MHz with some 3G 2100 MHz for extra coverage in urban areas. Telstra's Next G (in Australia) and AT&T Wireless also have networks running on 850 MHz, which can cover greater geographic distances and penetrate buildings more effectively than higher frequencies. Current CDMA phones are guaranteed by Telecom to work until at least June 2012. The Telecom UMTS network is planned to have no GSM coverage, no roaming coverage for 2G phones. Foreign 850MHz (North American) and 2100MHz (European) UMTS handsets can roam to this network.
I really have to talk to someone from telecom directly. It looks like flashing either a CDMA rom or a GSM rom is dangerous
band27 said:
For the love of God, calling your phone provider to inquire whether your device is GSM or CDMA is not necessary.
Simply open the backing to your device and check if you have a SIM card.
SIM Card = GSM
No Sim Card = CDMA
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dude, there are cdma companies that make use of sim card too.!
deeren said:
dude, there are cdma companies that make use of sim card too.!
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Stay on topiic here....we are not talking about other companies. We are talking about the HTC Diamond....lol
None of these devices are dual compatible. However HTC is coming up with a product that will be introduced in the 2009 lineup. Off the top of my head...don't recall.
konrad.schafers said:
In New Zealand Telecom has always had CDMA (no SIM), after Vodafone introduced 3G they will introduce W-CDMA (the way I see it it is a hybrid between GSM-UMTS and CDMA.
Here is the quote from Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telecom_New_Zealand)
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You are right, the W-CDMA allows for CDMA devices the ability to use the 3G signals. Prior to this, CDMA devices were not 3G compatible.
I really have to talk to someone from telecom directly. It looks like flashing either a CDMA rom or a GSM rom is dangerous
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Calling your provider might lead to voiding the warranty of this product. If you follow instructions as per the Wiki's and reading lots of threads, like the rest of us on this forum, your experience here will be with out a doubt, a very positive one. Millions of us flashers have crossed that line and can speak to this that although at first we were all hesitate, we are glad we did..!!
Flashing is Not for Everyone! Fear determines this....
Good Luck in what ever choices you make....If you decide to cross that line then all your Radio and ROM needs can be found over at PPCgeek.coml.........Don't forget to Hard SPL first!!
If this helps
WCDMA is base on GSM technology
CDMA was developed by Qualcomm in the United States and is the dominant network in the USA- if this helps?
Please post what Current ROM, Radio your device has.
I haven't got one yet. I was checking out the possibilities of flashing etc. They'll only launch WCDMA in June over here. Yes they are quite backwards in NZ. no full 3G by the major provider (Vodafone has had it for while).
Or even worse the broadband over here!!! You Pay per GB, around $1NZD (~55 USc) per Gigabyte (plus $50NZD base charge) and that's by far the cheapest here. Ususally they charge you something like $50NZD per month for a Gigabyte of data usage and limited bandwidth. Maximum bandwidth on which they charge you heavily is maybe 6MB if you're lucky
I used to live in germany! This is driving me mad
a bit of topic but...
Germany is one of the best places for cheap charges and bandwidth for Broadband in Europe . Nz charges base charge is similar in the UK
Seems strange as Nz was clearing money cheques (remember these) the next day back in 1976 while the UK still takes 3-5 working days.
Me personally i flashed cdma rom into gsm diamond and it didnt get broken, it just did not boot up, so i had to flash again from bootloader but no one wants to experience such a story :-D
Hello
I'd like to buy HTC Touch Pro2 (unlocked version), but I heard that it doesn't support 3G in USA? is that right? and why?
Will they release an unlocked version supports 3G in USA?
Does it support 3G in Asia and Europe?
What's exactly the differences between 2G and 3G?
P.S. I have an AT&T SIM card.
I know my questions are many but I'm so confused.
I'll be so appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
HNH992 said:
Hello
I'd like to buy HTC Touch Pro2 (unlocked version), but I heard that it doesn't support 3G in USA? is that right? and why?
Will they release an unlocked version supports 3G in USA?
Does it support 3G in Asia and Europe?
What's exactly the differences between 2G and 3G?
P.S. I have an AT&T SIM card.
I know my questions are many but I'm so confused.
I'll be so appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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If by "unlocked" you mean the original/intenational version, then no, it won't connect to 3G in the USA. The radio frequency of the hardware is wrong, and since it is hardware it can't be fixed by a software tweak. I think it's fine on 3G in Europe and maybe Asia (but I'm not an expert). There's lots of info out there if you look.
It will work fine on GSM (T-Mobile/ATT, for example) 2/2.5 bands in the USA and most/lots/all of Europe, Asia, etc.
To use ATT 3G you will need an ATT-branded TP2.
Basically, 3G is faster -- faster data transmission -- than 2G. Both terms refer to data speeds ranges, not specific technologies.
You should look at the Australian Telstra Touch Pro 2 T7381 it has been reported to work on ATT US and Rogers/FIDO Canada.
Why not wait one more week and it will be available in the USA from ATT. I give it then about 2 days before they start to show up on Ebay. These phones will be guaranteed to work on the North American frequencies.
That will be my strategy.
Thanks very much guys for replying
What's ATT-branded TP2?
What about HTC HD? does it have the same issue?
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Why not wait one more week and it will be available in the USA from ATT. I give it then about 2 days before they start to show up on Ebay. These phones will be guaranteed to work on the North American frequencies.
That will be my strategy.
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Did ATT report that they will release HTC Touch Pro2? and how soon?
What about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.com/BRAND-NEW-UNLOC...ZViewItemQQptZCell_Phones?hash=item2ea5b059bc
I'm confused...Isn't ATT Tilt 2 the Touch Pro 2?
aragorn771 said:
I'm confused...Isn't ATT Tilt 2 the Touch Pro 2?
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Yes, it's.
If you want one that specifically supports 3G in the US, your choices are the AT&T Tilt 2, or the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
In the US, the 3G bands unfortunately are different than the rest of the world:
Europe/Asia 3G : 2100
USA (AT&T) 3G: 850/1900
USA (TMo) 3G: 1700/2100 -- TMO uses one for up and the other for down, so you can't use a Euro/Asian 3G phone and get full speed on USA TMO
But the nice thing is that the 2 US carrier phones also throw in 2100 on the TP2, so it'll work overseas as well.
I hope that helps.
pinoymutt said:
If you want one that specifically supports 3G in the US, your choices are the AT&T Tilt 2, or the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
In the US, the 3G bands unfortunately are different than the rest of the world:
Europe/Asia 3G : 2100
USA (AT&T) 3G: 850/1900
USA (TMo) 3G: 1700/2100 -- TMO uses one for up and the other for down, so you can't use a Euro/Asian 3G phone and get full speed on USA TMO
But the nice thing is that the 2 US carrier phones also throw in 2100 on the TP2, so it'll work overseas as well.
I hope that helps.
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Yo PinoyMutt, help a fellow Filipino out here
I have an Unlocked TMo Branded Touch Pro 2 and am currently using it on AT&T.
Are there any settings I need to input in order to get 3G? For whatever reason, I'm only getting EDGE (or at least that's the icon I receive on the winmo taskbar).
Thanks!
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Wow... did I just see the AT&T is on 850/1900? Wow... I think I may be selling my TP2 now...
pinoymutt said:
If you want one that specifically supports 3G in the US, your choices are the AT&T Tilt 2, or the T-Mobile Touch Pro 2.
In the US, the 3G bands unfortunately are different than the rest of the world:
Europe/Asia 3G : 2100
USA (AT&T) 3G: 850/1900
USA (TMo) 3G: 1700/2100 -- TMO uses one for up and the other for down, so you can't use a Euro/Asian 3G phone and get full speed on USA TMO
But the nice thing is that the 2 US carrier phones also throw in 2100 on the TP2, so it'll work overseas as well.
I hope that helps.
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so if i buy Tmobile TP2 or AT&T Tilt2 ... i can use it here in UK 3G? (video call)
Im sick of this iphone 3g!
raffstyle said:
so if i buy Tmobile TP2 or AT&T Tilt2 ... i can use it here in UK 3G? (video call)
Im sick of this iphone 3g!
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Video call partly works if you have the dialer that supports video call. I have a Tilt with video call dialer. When I went to Hong Kong I was able to use video call but only for receiving the video, not sending.
3GPocketPC4Me said:
Yo PinoyMutt, help a fellow Filipino out here
I have an Unlocked TMo Branded Touch Pro 2 and am currently using it on AT&T.
Are there any settings I need to input in order to get 3G? For whatever reason, I'm only getting EDGE (or at least that's the icon I receive on the winmo taskbar).
Thanks!
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Wow... did I just see the AT&T is on 850/1900? Wow... I think I may be selling my TP2 now...
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Unfortunately it's a hardware thing. The TMO ones specifically have hardware for 1700/2100 3G, so software tweaks won't do a thing on AT&T. Sorry!
raffstyle said:
so if i buy Tmobile TP2 or AT&T Tilt2 ... i can use it here in UK 3G? (video call)
Im sick of this iphone 3g!
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cproaudio said:
Video call partly works if you have the dialer that supports video call. I have a Tilt with video call dialer. When I went to Hong Kong I was able to use video call but only for receiving the video, not sending.
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From a speed/band perspective, I believe the US versions work fine on the UK 2100 bands. However, as mentioned before there are 2 other items:
(1) the dialer has to support it (which it looks like you can obtain) so that's ok on a software end; BUT
(2) The US versions of the phone don't have the front camera in the upper right hand corner. Since US carriers really haven't gotten around to promoting 3G and video calling, most US carrier phones don't have the front camera needed for video conferencing.
In all, that is a big requirement, I would recommend sticking with an unbranded or at least Euro-carrier unlocked branded TP2.
I see that HTC Touch Pro2 from AT&T is now available in eBay.
I see that HTC Touch Pro2 from AT&T is now available in eBay.
pinoymutt said:
From a speed/band perspective, I believe the US versions work fine on the UK 2100 bands. However, as mentioned before there are 2 other items:
(1) the dialer has to support it (which it looks like you can obtain) so that's ok on a software end; BUT
(2) The US versions of the phone don't have the front camera in the upper right hand corner. Since US carriers really haven't gotten around to promoting 3G and video calling, most US carrier phones don't have the front camera needed for video conferencing.
In all, that is a big requirement, I would recommend sticking with an unbranded or at least Euro-carrier unlocked branded TP2.
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THANKS for the reply... I didnt know that US TP2's dont have front camera. thats suck.. the only reason i want to get the tp2 from US is because i know someone can hook me up with the ETF for less. well im just gonna wait till april for my upgrade.. free phone always makes me happy!
Hi guys,
I have just bought this phone and flashed it with the latest firmware Android 5.1 as per the post on this forum. I am now very worried because my phone only seems to be connectiong to 2.4ghz network instead of 5ghz. Also I cannot get mobile data working.
What ROM/kernel did you flash? Many ROMs run 5.1.x
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Rep7ile said:
What ROM/kernel did you flash? Many ROMs run 5.1.x
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Hi I used this rom Z90a40_USR_S118_1505272046_Q2020131.4_ROW_qpst
which was mentioned here on the forum as the best for Android 5.1
Hey man, I've done some research and it seems your ROM/phone should support LGT(4G). I would highly suggest completely wiping your phone, reflash ROM/ Gasps/ kernel (if you have one) and see if the issue persists
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The seller says I can send the item back for a full refund but unsure if he will give me a refund as I've changed the ROM to 5.1 The worst thing would be sending the device back to China
Okay, have you tried manually setting your APN? Fallow the steps below and findnthe APN settings online for your carrier, let me know what happens.
Many users have told me their 3G/4G LTE data network connection is broke after installing a custom ROM. *Well, in most of these cases, it can easily be fixed by manually setting the APN (Access Point Name). *This applies to any GSM networks such as*AT&T or T-Mobile. *For CDMA networks like Sprint or Verizon, they also use APNs but you don’t have to set them and should work out of the box.
Every carrier uses its own APN Settings to get its 3G/4G LTE network working on an Android smartphone or tablet device. *Now, these APN settings are usually “downloaded” automatically to your*phone*when you insert a SIM card. *BUT, there are times where the APN are not selected automatically OR when the APN settings are not downloaded.
In those instances, your 3G/4G LTE data will not work but that can easily be fixed.
Step 1. First, browse your Settings menu and find the “Access Point Names” menu. *This is usually under “Mobile Network Settings” or “More*mobile Networks or “Mobile Networks” under Settings menu depending on the Android device used.
Step 2. Once you are in the APN Settings menu, first thing you should check it that the APN is on the correct one. *If the correct APN is not checked (sometimes this happens), simply check ON the correct APN for your carrier. *That will make your 3G/4G LTE data working right away
tep 3. There are also times where the wrong APN is listed or there’s simply no APNs listed. *In these rare cases, you can simply add a new APN, hit the “+” button.
Step 4. For APN setting, the “Name” can be anything. *“APN” setting is the most important, usually you only have to fill this out for your phone to work.
For T-Mobile, you can set the “APN” to “fast.t-mobile.com”. *AT&T, you can set “APN” to “phone” or “pta”.
Now setting “APN” will get your data working but you still need to input additional settings to get your MMS working.
ep 5. You can usually Google APN settings for your carrier. *Whether you are in Thailand or in the U.S., simply Google for your APN settings like:
Google “t-mobile APN 4G LTE” for T-Mobile 4G LTE APN settings in the U.S.
Google “True Move APN 3g” for True Move 4G APN settings in Thailand.
Eventually, you should be able to find the full APN settings for your carrier whether you live in Hawaii or on North Pole.
Once you have the correct APN settings, simply input them into your APN settings on the phone
Step 7. Next, make sure to select the new APN Setting you have saved. *Within 5-30 seconds, your phone should start picking up 3G or 4G LTE signals and your data should be working again on the phone.
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desi112 said:
Hi guys,
I have just bought this phone and flashed it with the latest firmware Android 5.1 as per the post on this forum. I am now very worried because my phone only seems to be working on 3G. When I go into settings and network it only gives me the options to pick a 3G network. I did a lot of research before buying this phone and was assured it would work on 4G within the UK my old phone the Sony Xperia ZR worked on 4G fine. I do have the latest nano sim.
Here are the details of the Lenovo Z90-7 As per GSM Arena
Technology
GSM / HSPA / LTE
2G bands GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - SIM 1 & SIM 2
3G bands HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100
4G bands LTE 800 / 1800 / 2100 / 2600 - Lenovo Z90-7
And from my network operator's webpage I get the following info
4G from Tesco Mobile (o2) uses the following network frequencies:
800 MHz (0.8 GHz)
Am I having this problem as I flashed it with new firmware?
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I believe the phone doesn`t have the LTE 800 frequency.
Search other websites than gsm arena.
That`s why you don`t get 4G.
Hi Friends,
Thanks for the quick replies I really appreciate the help. In regards to the APN settings I've checked these and these seem to be correct.
So it *Should* work EE
Interesting, I was hoping the APN settings were the cause. I'm sorry you couldn't fix your issue. I'm sure you will have better luck with your next device.
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desi112 said:
Hi Friends,
Thanks for the quick replies I really appreciate the help. In regards to the APN settings I've checked these and these seem to be correct.
Valter84 you are correct I spoke to the seller and he advised that there is a mistake on the listing the phone does not support the LTE 800Mhz frequency.
So it *Should* work in the UK on the network EE which uses Band 3 FDD LTE (1800mhz). I've tried an EE sim and it still does not work at all on 4G.
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Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
But I can use here in Czech republic at T mobile provider only 1800 Mhz which covers only Prague and Mlada Boleslav . Rest of our country covers LTE on 800 Mhz only.
vlada.b said:
Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
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desi112 said:
vlada.b said:
Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
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This seems to be a worldwide problem outside China. It is nothing to do with APN settings, etc.
A company is selling this phone on Amazon USA and they have specifically mentioned 4G does not work in the USA.
I am based in the UK and 4G doesn't work. I have flashed the phone and have now android 5.1 installed on it, but until official EU version of this phone is released we will be stuck with 3G
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barcomi said:
desi112 said:
This seems to be a worldwide problem outside China. It is nothing to do with APN settings, etc.
A company is selling this phone on Amazon USA and they have specifically mentioned 4G does not work in the USA.
I am based in the UK and 4G doesn't work. I have flashed the phone and have now android 5.1 installed on it, but until official EU version of this phone is released we will be stuck with 3G
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Guys, just to let you know the phone works 4G on UK EE network, but not on O2.
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I need help. can't use 5ghz network.
desi112 said:
Hi guys,
I have just bought this phone and flashed it with the latest firmware Android 5.1 as per the post on this forum. I am now very worried because my phone only seems to be connectiong to 2.4ghz network instead of 5ghz. Also I cannot get mobile data working.
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I can't connecting 5ghz too.
Just only can connecting 2.4ghz.
I can't find 5ghz network in WLAN list.
I succeeded installing the ROM. (use MiFlash tool)
ROM Version: Z90-a40_S118_1505272008_ROW
So, my phone's android version is 5.1
Z90-7 device can't support 5ghz WIFI network? or ROM's problem?
I want to know about this problem's solutions. (I want to use 5ghz wifi network!)
If anybody answer for me, I'll be very grateful.
Thanks for reading.
Chinese markets are deceiving customers
vlada.b said:
Hi, I have the same trouble as you , anyway I have not flashed my Z90-7 yet. My chinesse seller from Aliexpress claims , that this phone supports all usual LTE frequencies including 800 Mhz.
But I can use here in Czech republic at T mobile provider only 1800 Mhz which covers only Prague and Mlada Boleslav . Rest of our country covers LTE on 800 Mhz only.
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Dear people, wake up, many Chinese markets are deceiving customers by providing them misleading information. LTE bands is one clear example. Chinese LTE bands are diferent and they just flash the device's ROM for multi-language and add Google Play to make it "international version" but it is not. DON'T BUY IT!
I double checked with this company minideal.net which i cannot recommend. The company confirmed full FDD LTE (4G) functionality on following frequency bands: 800/1800/2100/2600MHz. But my smartphone IS NOT WORKING on 800MHz in The Czech Republic because it is only 1800/2100/2600MHz in fact. Within the PayPal Dispute and Claim they completely turned around their statements concerning LTE bands.
Complete tests were made with my network operator provider to rull out other problems. You can easily check that in these comments and in some fair e-shops where they don't twist the truth.
Mydoma said:
Dear people, wake up, many Chinese markets are deceiving customers by providing them misleading information. LTE bands is one clear example. Chinese LTE bands are diferent and they just flash the device's ROM for multi-language and add Google Play to make it "international version" but it is not. DON'T BUY IT!
I double checked with this company minideal.net which i cannot recommend. The company confirmed full FDD LTE (4G) functionality on following frequency bands: 800/1800/2100/2600MHz. But my smartphone IS NOT WORKING on 800MHz in The Czech Republic because it is only 1800/2100/2600MHz in fact. Within the PayPal Dispute and Claim they completely turned around their statements concerning LTE bands.
Complete tests were made with my network operator provider to rull out other problems. You can easily check that in these comments and in some fair e-shops where they don't twist the truth.
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This is correct, the phone doesn't work on 800MHz. However it should because Qualcom 615 supports 800MHz. the reason it doesn't work is because the modem is probably locked within the ROM. I am hoping once this phone is release european version then it should work at 800MHz.
Czech version of Lenovo Vibe Shot working on 800Mhz LTE seamlessly
barcomi said:
This is correct, the phone doesn't work on 800MHz. However it should because Qualcom 615 supports 800MHz. the reason it doesn't work is because the modem is probably locked within the ROM. I am hoping once this phone is release european version then it should work at 800MHz.
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Hi, i already have had the European version of Lenovo Vibe Shot (chinese name Lenovo Z90-7) in my hands. I purchased it recently to compare the Czech and the Chinese model concurrently. All worked perfectly well with the Czech model. The device connected to 800MHz LTE band (band 20) INSTANTLY after the Android system start. No setting necessary at all. It connected to 800MHz T-mobile band in the Czech Republic. While with the Chinese only 3G or less! Another LTE band (2100MHz perhaps) worked well - Vodafone Czech Republic. So LTE hardware is ok but 800MHz missing...
The test is here: youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5RoN_BYSc
No doubt i was intentionally deceived by the seller namely minideal.net; and many others customers are being deceived the same way!
coptrade said:
Hi, i already have had the European version of Lenovo Vibe Shot (chinese name Lenovo Z90-7) in my hands. I purchased it recently to compare the Czech and the Chinese model concurrently. All worked perfectly well with the Czech model. The device connected to 800MHz LTE band (band 20) INSTANTLY after the Android system start. No setting necessary at all. It connected to 800MHz T-mobile band in the Czech Republic. While with the Chinese only 3G or less! Another LTE band (2100MHz perhaps) worked well - Vodafone Czech Republic. So LTE hardware is ok but 800MHz missing...
The test is here: youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5RoN_BYSc
No doubt i was intentionally deceived by the seller namely minideal.net; and many others customers are being deceived the same way!
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This is amazing. I hope soon someone will release the european ROM, so I can update my chinese phone with european ROM. Do you think the Chinese phone will work on 800MHz with the European ROM?
barcomi said:
This is amazing. I hope soon someone will release the european ROM, so I can update my chinese phone with european ROM. Do you think the Chinese phone will work on 800MHz with the European ROM?
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Well, i consulted this with some mobile phone services earlier and they did not recommend updating the ROM like that. Your device can end up dead after it. The ROM must be perfectly tuned to the particular HW specification of your device to avoid the fatal consequences. It is quite risky... i was thinking the same way. I am disputing the seller via PayPal asking for partial refund to be able to re-sell the phone to someone who can do without 800MHz.
Also you cannot freely update the android system without loosing the multi-language and Google Play... So shopping mobile phones in China? NOT A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR ME!
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coptrade said:
Hi, i already have had the European version of Lenovo Vibe Shot (chinese name Lenovo Z90-7) in my hands. I purchased it recently to compare the Czech and the Chinese model concurrently. All worked perfectly well with the Czech model. The device connected to 800MHz LTE band (band 20) INSTANTLY after the Android system start. No setting necessary at all. It connected to 800MHz T-mobile band in the Czech Republic. While with the Chinese only 3G or less! Another LTE band (2100MHz perhaps) worked well - Vodafone Czech Republic. So LTE hardware is ok but 800MHz missing...
The test is here: youtube.com/watch?v=Mv5RoN_BYSc
No doubt i was intentionally deceived by the seller namely minideal.net; and many others customers are being deceived the same way!
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Ok, i understand your point. I was thinking the same way. Some mobile phone services would refuse to update the ROM like that though, because it can kill the mobile completely. And who will take the responsibility? The Chinese dishonest dealers should! Let us tell them, we don't like their deception and lies! They are playing the "we don't know" game, but they surely know enough about the differences between Chinese and non-Chinese LTE bands.
But yes, there should be a way to change the ROM the same way the distributors of the real European version of this phone do it. Only where shall we get that ROM and ROM update done? Because, as i have already experienced, the local (Czech) Lenovo representation has no interest in helping owners of Lenovo products purchased in China. How predicable...
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desi112 said:
The seller says I can send the item back for a full refund but unsure if he will give me a refund as I've changed the ROM to 5.1 The worst thing would be sending the device back to China
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Did you pay via PayPal? You can dispute or claim... Because i say it is just intentional form of deception what they do...
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barcomi said:
desi112 said:
This seems to be a worldwide problem outside China. It is nothing to do with APN settings, etc.
A company is selling this phone on Amazon USA and they have specifically mentioned 4G does not work in the USA.
I am based in the UK and 4G doesn't work. I have flashed the phone and have now android 5.1 installed on it, but until official EU version of this phone is released we will be stuck with 3G
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You are right some (many) Chinese dealers are cheating... and we pay for it.
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coptrade said:
Well, i consulted this with some mobile phone services earlier and they did not recommend updating the ROM like that. Your device can end up dead after it. The ROM must be perfectly tuned to the particular HW specification of your device to avoid the fatal consequences. It is quite risky... i was thinking the same way. I am disputing the seller via PayPal asking for partial refund to be able to re-sell the phone to someone who can do without 800MHz.
Also you cannot freely update the android system without loosing the multi-language and Google Play... So shopping mobile phones in China? NOT A GOOD EXPERIENCE FOR ME!
I changed my ROM, but it is just simplified ROM (done by chinese guys) without the bloatware ...
I got it from this link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/lenovo-z90-7-vibe-shot-international-t3148018
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