I've read that you can disable Push Internet on the Sprint Touch Pro2 by changing a registry key or by installing one of several available cabs, in order to save 10MB of memory.
My question is this: is the memory savings strictly by allowing you to fully close Opera so that Opera is not consuming memory when you don't want it to ... or is there more to it?
I like having Opera loaded in memory, given how often I fire it up ... but have no need for Push Internet. I am trying to determine if this change will actually save me any memory if I intend to leave Opera loaded in memory.
levman said:
I've read that you can disable Push Internet on the Sprint Touch Pro2 by changing a registry key or by installing one of several available cabs, in order to save 10MB of memory.
My question is this: is the memory savings strictly by allowing you to fully close Opera so that Opera is not consuming memory when you don't want it to ... or is there more to it?
I like having Opera loaded in memory, given how often I fire it up ... but have no need for Push Internet. I am trying to determine if this change will actually save me any memory if I intend to leave Opera loaded in memory.
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the answer to your questions(s) is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=532948
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Has anyone figured out a way to "move" Storage Memory or ExtendROM memory over to Program Memory allocation?
I am typically left with 13-14mb of free program memory with the device sitting idle with only system resources/background apps running and would like to re-allocate unused storage as volatile ram to allow me to run more foreground apps at one time. As it stands I can only get 2 or 3 before WM starts automatically closing down apps.
I'm sure this is some serious hacking...if at all possible.
TIA
you dont mention what wm version you are using but with wm2003
there is a slider
with wm5 and up memory is not shared anymore and all real memory is used for applications
and storage is always flash
flash like cd-rw discs have a limited writes before it dies
and it read and writes much much much slower then real memory
which is why these devices use pagepool to speedthings
up
so one cant make virtual memory out of the flash
and if one could it would maybe slow the devices down
OS version in my signature but yes will be more clear next time
(Even though I did search before posting and didn't find anything) I now recall a discussion on this stating exactly the same conclusion.
Thanks for the info mate!
Sorry for the noobish question, but I just got a S621, and I'm trying to figure out why Internet Explorer doesn't seem to have an exit option.
Please tell me there's a way to exit without resorting to the task manager.
Because Microsoft seems to think you want to leave most of their apps running all the time LOL
Use Task Manager to close it when you are done.
Gah. I was afraid that would be the answer. I wonder why they do this on a phone with such limited memory. And whats the point of keeping the apps resident when there's no task switcher? I suppose the recent programs partly serves this function, but it doesn't show which apps are running.
Quite the opposite to Apple's approach - not allowing apps to stay resident on the iPhone, which I believe has at least double the RAM of the s620 & a much faster CPU.
By the way, are there any freeware alternatives to IE that do not require server-based rendering?
Opera Mini.
Download opera mini from the usefull apps post. Its truly amazing.
I still have IE there for certain things like thestreamcenter.com so it knows im on a mobile phone. I use celetask shortcutted to the Tmobile key(nrg rom) to kill it and regain lost ram.
If you are using the tmobile rom I suggest switching off it as fast as you can.
Good Luck.
I'm using the 3VO 6.5 rom. I've used Opera mini before (while traveling in India & China) & I agree it's great, but I'm looking for a browser that renders pages natively, without connecting to a proxy. Is there any freeware one besides IE?
Also, what's the best way to map a button to the task manager with the 3VO 6.5 rom?
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Also, what's the best way to map a button to the task manager with the 3VO 6.5 rom?
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I thought it was the red t button on the bottom right of the phone. Thats if your using the same 3vo 6.5 as me...
There's Opera Mobile which isn't freeware but probably the best given the phone's limited memory. Apart from that the options are limited - Iris (free) which is based on WebKit is the other option that is a native browser (not through a proxy) but it's designed for a phone with at least twice as much memory really, so although it'll run, once you start hitting large pages it runs out of memory rapidly. Which is a shame because it's nice.
I use Opera mini unless I absolutely have to use a native browser (e.g. for logging into a wireless hotspot, Intranet etc.). It's remarkable just how fast it renders pages!
Hi all, after install WM6.5, it seem the RAM is always on high consumption. even I cancel the running program, the ram still not back to lower ratio. I have tried install some FreeRam program for WM6.1 but it seems doesn't work on WM6.5, anyone have new freeRAM program for WM6.5?
HTCAddicts.com's CleanRAM works fine in WM 6.5 (www.htcaddicts.com)
Hi,
Unfortunatly it does not work as the only thing it is doing is closing and restarting apps.
You can do this manually with pretty same results.
But the problem of WM6.5 or HTC Sense or whatever I don't know is Memory Leak concerning GUI handling. Take a look a gwes.exe memory consumption at start and then at the end of a regular use day with all apps closed. GWES.EXE will take twice memory than it took when you soft resetted.
And I think nobody has find a way yet to get rid of this problem.
Regards,
Thomas
tlefeuvre said:
Hi,
Unfortunatly it does not work as the only thing it is doing is closing and restarting apps.
You can do this manually with pretty same results.
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Regards,
Thomas
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oh, I did mean to use cleanRAM manually (actually, mode 3) ... guess you're technically right, tho
Thanks! I think use this better than nothing. About the final solution, it may need to wait the HTC update ROM to settle this problem.... so sad!!
try to make the shared memory smaller
this problem is caused by the shared memory.
HKLM/ Software /HTC / Resloader
look for that registry setting and recalculate it to half. that might solve your ram issues. I had to do it with my Kaiser running M2D. Fixed my problem when I set it to 3mb (1024 x 3 = 3mb.) You need to make sure that the math is correct so that you are not wasting any sectors. 1mb increments works well.
I would reserve at least 10mb for TF3D as opposed to the 3mb for M2D.
Use this at your own risk and make sure you backup first, in case you will have to do a hard reset.
also, in order to see actual memory usage for processes you should use the MS task manager, not the DF TaskManager. MS gives you accurate readings, while DF lets you close processes.
I just tried setting it to zero. no harmfull efects.
thanks for your advise, I don't know how to caclulate this but task manager could help. may I ask when can I found the task manager?
I know there's a thread about how to increase the speed of my Tilt2 by freeing up memory but I can't find it now. I've searched for it and can't seem to find it. As of right now I have a total of 187.07MB of program memory and 167.82MB is in use leaving me with only 19.31MB free. Can someone point me in the right direction on how to free up memory being used when there are no programs currently running.
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I know there's a thread about how to increase the speed of my Tilt2 by freeing up memory but I can't find it now. I've searched for it and can't seem to find it. As of right now I have a total of 187.07MB of program memory and 167.82MB is in use leaving me with only 19.31MB free. Can someone point me in the right direction on how to free up memory being used when there are no programs currently running.
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There's actually just two simple .cab files you can run on your phone that will make a big difference in the memory management on the TP2, with or without programs running. I've attached both below, just copy them to your phone, run them from there, and you should see a noticible difference in the amount of available RAM you have, whether you're running stuff or not
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There's actually just two simple .cab files you can run on your phone that will make a big difference in the memory management on the TP2, with or without programs running. I've attached both below, just copy them to your phone, run them from there, and you should see a noticible difference in the amount of available RAM you have, whether you're running stuff or not
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Thanks, so I can run them both at the same time? I thought I read somewhere about how to really close Opera cause it doesn't really close when you exit out of it, do you know where I can find that as well?
Once again thanks for the two .cab files Sirphunkee.
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Thanks, so I can run them both at the same time? I thought I read somewhere about how to really close Opera cause it doesn't really close when you exit out of it, do you know where I can find that as well?
Once again thanks for the two .cab files Sirphunkee.
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No prob! You actually just run each of those cabs once, one right after the other, and they make registry changes that just stay in effect after that (they're not like programs that you would have to run every time you power the phone on).
As for Opera...what version are you running, just the stock 9.5 that came with the phone? There is a manual registry tweak (I haven't seen any cabs for it) that's supposed to make it close when you hit the "x", but they don't seem to work 100% for everybody. I'd actually recommend just going and downloading the free Opera10 beta that is avaible now...it's an improvement over 9.5, and has the ability built-in to completely close it from within the app.
check out cleanram as well:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=85285
Some people have problems with resetting the UI (the phone will freeze after a couple days), I haven't experience issues, but if you do, just use the 1st option, not the 2nd or 3rd as they reset the UI.
My TP2 (winmo 6.5) is running painfully slow atm - it can take 10-20 seconds do do something like load my inbox or an email..
On a quest to speed it up I was looking at the memory in use:
Total: 187.41mb
In Use: 151.36mb
Free: 36.05
which is when the device is idle with no open apps.
36MB of free memory seems appallingly low to me.
Im sure on winmo 6.1 there was a slider you could adjust how much memory is allocated to storage and how much to programs. did I imagine this or how do i find it now?
I have 259.2MB of 'Storage' memory, of which only 30MB is used, hanging onto the rest is a big waste.
Or - is there a better way to speed things up? (like install android? )
You can look through a couple other posts stating very similar characteristics. Two popular programs are the SSK Dynamic resource proxy and NoPushInternet. Both can help reduce RAM usage significantly. Another program you should look into is CleanRAM, which will clear any stacks that might not have been closed when the program was ended. If you need help finding the CABs let me know and i'll post them up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676277
Well I dont know which 6.5 your running but I have switched ROMS myself, I was using the EU rom for the past couple of months, and anytime I got under 40MB free memory, the TP2 would run slow and odd, I recently switched over to the SEA rom, put the exact same programs on and as of right now I am running at 27MB of free ram with nothing running, and its just as fast when its fully loaded and I have almost 87MB of free ram. but its taken 4 days to drop to 27MB, odd.
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You can look through a couple other posts stating very similar characteristics. Two popular programs are the SSK Dynamic resource proxy and NoPushInternet. Both can help reduce RAM usage significantly. Another program you should look into is CleanRAM, which will clear any stacks that might not have been closed when the program was ended. If you need help finding the CABs let me know and i'll post them up.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=676277
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Yeah, also by reducing the ShareMemSize (HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy) to 0. So I read somehwere!
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Yeah, also by reducing the ShareMemSize (HKLM\SOFTWARE\HTC\ResProxy) to 0. So I read somehwere!
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Yes, I'm pretty sure that's what the "dynamic resource proxy" cab does. I don't have my TP2 with me at the moment or I'd test to confirm.
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Im sure on winmo 6.1 there was a slider you could adjust how much memory is allocated to storage and how much to programs. did I imagine this or how do i find it now?
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I'm afraid you are showing your age, so far as I know that slider hasn't been used since before WM5. With WM5 they went to using NVRAM for storage (flash memory if you prefer). Prior to that all WM used RAM for storage - which meant they could not be turned off without clearing everything! But in those versions (I remember WM2003 in particular), you could allocate where the ram was used - storage or programs.
I often think that in some ways those older OS were faster. I remember my XDA mini working very fast. When MS switched to non volatile storage, I think they lost a bit of speed - flash is not as fast as RAM. Of course they gained the fact that you don't have to worry about turning off the power and losing your files!