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Hybrid - intellectual property! That's worked out so well for us!

I really don't get what the fuss is about this theme, ok so credit should be given where it's due I'm not arguing, but surely all that's required in this instance is "here's my theme - parts are borrowed from here and here, what do you think?" is sufficient.
It's ridiculous that we even feel the need to debate this, someone went out and built a theme they liked, and decided they would share it with the rest of us, something they did not need to do! Instead of saying thanks, we've shut down a thread because it wasn't precise enough about where it's components were found!
Regarding this theme, i love it, i think it almost perfectly combines the best parts of other themes and apart from the splash screen which i rarely see, makes my phone look great. I can't ask the developer to improve the theme now though thanks to a debate about a couple of icons! fantastic!

faithnolonger said:
I really don't get what the fuss is about this theme, ok so credit should be given where it's due I'm not arguing, but surely all that's required in this instance is "here's my theme - parts are borrowed from here and here, what do you think?" is sufficient.
It's ridiculous that we even feel the need to debate this, someone went out and built a theme they liked, and decided they would share it with the rest of us, something they did not need to do! Instead of saying thanks, we've shut down a thread because it wasn't precise enough about where it's components were found!
Regarding this theme, i love it, i think it almost perfectly combines the best parts of other themes and apart from the splash screen which i rarely see, makes my phone look great. I can't ask the developer to improve the theme now though thanks to a debate about a couple of icons! fantastic!
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thanks faith..
it is clearly ridiculous..but i cant do anything..
HYBRID has in no way stop at all...this is just a set back..
i want my thread back....my original thread..
i am not going to make a new 1 cuz there no neeed..
to everybody that has MY HYBID THEME...or not
please post ur comments and give ur opinion about this whole situation...
and tell the admin/moderators u want my thread re opened....
please help me..
thats all i ask in return...
VIVA LA RESISTANCE!!!!!!!!!! hahah lol

i agree...the thread should be re opened because there is nothing wrong with his theme or how it was created. if you close his then you should close alot others because i know of 3 themes that share the EXACT same clock as the hybrid theme and a few icons and i dont see any reference to whee there clock and icons came from on there thread. everyone is not gonna have a completely different theme, clock, and set of icons. so IMO as long as he acknowledges that he made his theme from a combination of others i feel it is sufficient because whose to sat who FIRST created the black transparant clock that 3THEMES share and icons. as long as he is not saying he created the whole theme from scratch and taking all the cedit then whats the problem? nobody is payin for these themes so its not like he's getting anything from it besides happy hackers who love his work!

If you are referring to the black carbon fiber clock, the actual clock was posted by brandenk in a thread where he gave permission for anyone to use it.

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If you are referring to the black carbon fiber clock, the actual clock was posted by brandenk in a thread where he gave permission for anyone to use it.
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Ok, but there are still a number of themes that share some the same icons and dont give credit to one another.

I do feel that shutting the thread down is the wrong decision...if that is the case, then I want the "Post ONLY your G1 Wallpapers here!" threat shut down...I know for a fact, that there is a Guinness wallpaper on there that I created and uploaded to g1wallz.com that is posted under someone elses name and no credit is given to me. I never really b!tched about it because I dont really care (I posted it on the www afterall, if it was that important to me I would have just kept it to myself)...but if we are going to get picky about giving recognition and asking for permissions then...

Some examples may be helpful, some of us have gotten icons from each other and some from deviantartbut I know the staff doesn't have time to go through every theme that shares something so examples may be needed

Ok here's a simple solution to give credit to all that's do credit.
Disclaimer=
*** I appreciate the hard work and have used icons/images from various sources.. for your hard work I appreciate it and you work lives on in insert theme name here. I wish I can recall all the names of the original makers but I can't as I have scoured the internet and other sources and can't recollect them. If 1 of your images is posted here that should not have been redistributed or used please feel free to contact Theme maker name here and we will work on resolving the issue.
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The above should quickly cover your own @ss and give credit and thus stopping the fighting.
Now how many people have used google to search an item to recreate? not all are graphic masters and not all while trying to develop something remembers their sources.
I personally thank all theme makers and others for their hard work!!!

ANYONE ANYWHERE MAY USE ANY AND ALL COMPONENTS OF MY THEMES WITH OR WITHOUT ANY REFERENCE TO ME OR THOSE THAT HELP ME
With that said, I am here to help and learn. We are what make this phone awesome, not Google, not HTC, not T-mobile, and not any 1 person. I am truly honored anytime you guys use my components in your own themes, if I didnt I would not bother to make them.
If you guys cant understand that imitation is the highest form of flattery all I can say is go watch Star Trek, I learned this lesson from Data on TNG years ago and it has served me very well. Granted, i love it when you guys mention my name if you use my clock but Im not going to be offended if you dont. Especially since the clock wasnt "my idea". Im sure there are a million people out there that could argue they created something very similar way before me, and to them all I have to say is thank you for the great idea and I hope you appreciate my hard work to take your "idea" to the next level.
My ideal scenario would be everyone taking bits and pieces from themes they like and compiling them into a theme that is perfect for them.

Do you know how many of them probably got their icons from the same source? I know some of the themes were yes, obviously borrowed icons, but others were just coincidence. The whole point of open source is that anyone, can take anything anyone makes, change some ****, and create something totally new. Yes, they SHOULD provide credit, but its not key.
Simply put, if you don't want people to use your ideas, do NOT post them. Simple as that. Any moderator that finds the need to close a thread for that purpose is just, well lack for a better word, dumb.
Now to the theme makers directly, I thank them for all the work they put into the themes, it is a lot of work. However they aren't doing it for us, its for them. I wouldn't create a theme based on what everyone else will want, I'd make one that I like, I enjoy, then later post it here to allow others to use it.
So everyone, stop *****ing, stop complaining, and just enjoy what everyone has to offer.

I used that very same clock in my theme and I credited brandenk for it, what tootall4la is doing is wrong. Some people put allot of work into creating these themes, the least he could do is say thanks to brandenk for his clock and what not. Also, I think he got a complete lack of respect for others. Here's a quote when someone suggested he give credit to other people for using their work to create his "Frankenstein"
its a nice suggestion but will not be taken because..
i already gave credit to those ppl!!!!!!!!!!..
i am claming my theme.. im not claming anything else...
like i explained to jdwme..
and thats where my frankenstein title comes from because i use all these parts to make a new theme(a.k.a frankenstein) a new breed the HYBRID...
just call me creative.. no one else though of doing this.. to not dissapoint other theme makers..why should i ask for permission???haha..well im just doing what i think would be a great looking theme and so far ppl do think it is...so suck it lol.
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I know he never credited me for the resources he used,
Hybrid Version 1.5 RELEASE(JFv 1.41 Compatible)
Improvements:
1.Metal Sheet Status bar...
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which is just the brushed metal I created for my Macdroid theme and there's plenty of other stuff he used and never gave a thanks for it. I'm not trying to be a jerk but it is common courtesy to give a thanks.

Open the thread most of the themes contain parts of other themes,I know cause I can see my work all over but that does not matter. Hey guys I also say anything I have done as far as themes can be used with out giving me credit or permission if you want to give credit that would be better but its cool with me either way.
Its not like google or T-Mobile even gave permission to do this lol....I love forum.

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Its not like google or T-Mobile even gave permission to do this lol....I love forum.
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Oh Noes! You mean Mr. T. Mobile himself didnt give you permission to do this?!?! Thats it, im burning my phone and calling the cops on all of your guys!

Well they gave me permission but hey that's me LMAO!!!! Hey an stop calling me I'm off duty.
Theme Police are watcing I need better sun glasses.

Well....this is indeed a touchy subject. I Believe the thread should be reopened as well but.....I agree with Geo411. There does seem to be a lack of respect for other authors. There are authors on here such as Manup and Brandek that do not care, but that does not go for everyone. I for one dont really care for my own theme, but I love and respect all who have contributed to the community and wish that we do give credit to others that worked so hard and actually wanted to be recognized for it. It really does not take that much time to type out a few lines of recognition....Reopen the thread once recognition has been given.

its a nice suggestion but will not be taken because..
i already gave credit to those ppl!!!!!!!!!!..
i am claming my theme.. im not claming anything else...
like i explained to jdwme..
and thats where my frankenstein title comes from because i use all these parts to make a new theme(a.k.a frankenstein) a new breed the HYBRID...
just call me creative.. no one else though of doing this.. to not dissapoint other theme makers..why should i ask for permission???haha..well im just doing what i think would be a great looking theme and so far ppl do think it is...so suck it lol.
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Unless his attitude changes tootall4la will keep hitting a brick wall.
G1 is a fine line with "crediting" sources, since it is open-source.
Although, common courtesy of a thank you to all, is humane, a nice juster.
As for tootall4la's thread to reopen, noticing most theme makers dont mind whether they get credit or not, tootall4la should figure out who he should thank and PM him or them and work it out.
My opinion on this matter doesnt mean a thing. Since im not the mod who closed the thread, i wont be the mod to reopen it without assurance from all, that it's ok to reopen it.

RedCastle said:
Ok here's a simple solution to give credit to all that's do credit.
Disclaimer=
*** I appreciate the hard work and have used icons/images from various sources.. for your hard work I appreciate it and you work lives on in insert theme name here. I wish I can recall all the names of the original makers but I can't as I have scoured the internet and other sources and can't recollect them. If 1 of your images is posted here that should not have been redistributed or used please feel free to contact Theme maker name here and we will work on resolving the issue.
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Very Well Put... This Would Really Help Solve All This Madness. and i noticed they shut down the thread but i havent seen ONE post supporting keeping the thread closed which should make a point to the moderators that just because ONE person may have a problem, what ablout the rest of the people on the forums who IMO majority doesn't have a problem and wants the thread re opened.

Agreed, and it is personal taste. As a rule of thumb I think communities like this function more on sharing than owning content so if you want to own your content this community probably isnt the place for you. That said, I would like to encourage the sharing aspect of the community and remember, even tho I dont mind anyone using my components, when I get a thank you it goes a long way. Sometimes its a simple "ty" other times its someone buying me a beer, either way the more I get from you guys for my hard work the more willing I am to bust my balls trying to improve things for you guys.
What goes around comes around.

One Q; if the site really cared if we got credit then why is there no thank you button which would solve the problem. When you drop your theme you can be thanked and get your credit automatic.
Anyway a theme section is what's really needed not people fighting about themes who's icons belong to another designer,does anybody ask them permission?
Keep the piece guys it not that serious I would take what ever part of the theme that the other person is complaining about. Tell me what it is and ill make one for you,but I hope this is not going to be your only theme. I want to see some more work after this original.

Hey I also don't mind if people use/improve my theme, what I'm referring to was the improper etiquette used. Here's a PM from a user on the forum asking if he can improve upon my theme. This is proper etiquette.
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Geo411m said:
Sistum Id said:
I am requesting permission to edit and alter your MacDroid v2.2 1.41 theme for the G1. I will be making the aluminum darker (more black), and maybe changing a few icons.
If you want when I'm done I can forward it to you or host it myself and give you credit or never release it publicly.
Mike
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I tried making the brushed metal darker and it doesn't look right. It blended in to much with the rest of the menu icons and made thing harder to see. Well give it a shot perhaps you can make it look better than I did.
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I know what you mean. I tried different ways with photoshop to just change yours and make it darker but it doesnt come out right at all. It looks more bluish gray if anything.
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As a rule of thumb I think communities like this function more on sharing than owning content so if you want to own your content this community probably isnt the place for you.
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I agree with this, if it wasn't for JF finding loopholes to root or Stericson for sharing what he discovered we about theming, we wouldn't be here modding our phones in the first place.

WARNING Skinners Read

To start. Anyone That has a bricked phone or a broken market place.Pu your sd card in your pc redownload RC33 rename it update.zip, put it back in your phone and pull the battery if you are stuck on the start screen. Then follow the steps for normal update.
To the skinners. Please learn to fully check your work. Every Single RC33 skin on here is breaking peoples phones. I have tried EVERY single one and not a single one is working properly. You are putting people threw hell screwing up their phones. Its not that we do not appreciate your time and effort but ours is jsut as important and to have to keep reloading our phones because your taking shortcuts is not fair to anyone.
If you do nto have a phone to fuilly test your theme ont hen please request a tester before you post it.

Wtf. All of them test it on their own phones.
Phones brick on a case by case basis.
You seriously need to show some respect to the theme devs.
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Lol. You're even more retarded than I thought. First ever post, and you do it by bashing theme devs. Lol.

first off, there are usually disclaimers for all themes here on this board. You install a theme at your very own risk and we (theme makers) do this for the community. You can def. choose to install or not. If you noticed a lot of the errors are coming from users not following the right instructions to apply the themes. Most work here on this board are not final hence the title beta. In return we are getting feedback as to what we can improve or fix. If your on this forum, than you should know the risks involved in doing such things to your phone and have taken the necessary precautions to eliminate some of the headaches in the process. I DO TAKE OFFENSE to this as most of the theme makers on here put in endless hours to share something.
edit: also please do not pull out your battery. That's just silly. Please ask someone on this board if your unsure. there are ways to do things correctly. grrrr

APrinceAmongMen said:
Wtf. All of them test it on their own phones.
Phones brick on a case by case basis.
You seriously need to show some respect to the theme devs.
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I agree, I check all my work on MY OWN phone first and never screwed anything up... they might be using wrong versions other than what i posted or doing something wrong.. but i put my phone through the crapper before anyone elses dude...
Edit: I enjoy doing themes and lately I havent had many updates due to my job and family... but i love making themes and I USE my themes daily..
I hope that most of you appreciate what us theme devs are doing and I find this post troubling to me.
to the ones who appreciate the themes.... YOU GUYS are who I do it for!

That was uncalled for OP.
When someone offers to give you something for free out of kindness, take it or leave it.
Besides, I have never had a problem with any of these themes..
Why? Cuz I don't leave it all up to a theme dev, its also my responsibility to check that everything is in order.

Most apps / themes / ROM's are all still in development - you download and install as a tester and report any bugs / problems you find to the developer. If you can't handle that then don't install anything that isn't a final version; however, I challenge you to find any app or theme - Pay or Free, Final version or not that doesn't still have some bugs?
I for one am extremely thankful for everything / apps, themes, etc.. that these people have put so much hard work and long hours into developing. Our devices are better because of their hard work. Thanks to everyone
Edit: I just noticed - Holly Crap - You have been a member since 2006 and you choose your first post for this?

hotrod101 said:
Most apps / themes / ROM's are all still in development - you download and install as a tester and report any bugs / problems you find to the developer. If you can't handle that then don't install anything that isn't a final version; however, I challenge you to find any app or theme - Pay or Free, Final version or not that doesn't still have some bugs?
I for one am extremely thankful for everything / apps, themes, etc.. that these people have put so much hard work and long hours into developing. Our devices are better because of their hard work. Thanks to everyone
Edit: I just noticed - Holly Crap - You have been a member since 2006 and you choose your first post for this?
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LEECHER ALERT... lol

RandumAccess said:
LEECHER ALERT... lol
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exactly what I was thinking, I was going to edit my post again asking the OP what he has contributed to this forum having been a member since 2006 and only posting for the first time today : answer: Nothing

I always go by beggars can't be choosers.
It'd be another story if you paid for the themes, but I have a feeling OP does not throw them any bones.

ungratefull bastard... smh...
i have tried a number of themes and i am not by any means a dev
i know my **** and i know to read the fine print before trying a new theme
the OP should take his sorry ass back to stock rc30
KRON2
mannyb
hondamx525
faithnolonger
manup456
dthadamaja
RandumAccess
Geo411m
necromancerr
damnitpud
tekrodriguez
jdwme
MOONSSPOON
toxtrepla
AND jf
YOU ALL KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK

Learn how to apply the themes properly, there are plenty of RC33 compatible themes.

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To start. Anyone That has a bricked phone or a broken market place.Pu your sd card in your pc redownload RC33 rename it update.zip, put it back in your phone and pull the battery if you are stuck on the start screen. Then follow the steps for normal update.
To the skinners. Please learn to fully check your work. Every Single RC33 skin on here is breaking peoples phones. I have tried EVERY single one and not a single one is working properly. You are putting people threw hell screwing up their phones. Its not that we do not appreciate your time and effort but ours is jsut as important and to have to keep reloading our phones because your taking shortcuts is not fair to anyone.
If you do nto have a phone to fuilly test your theme ont hen please request a tester before you post it.
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LMAO you have flashed your phone the amount of times as there are themes? what is that 10 or so? I will put money down that i have flashed at least 100 times with my FadetoBlue theme alone. I am sure every other themer has also. I have installed ADP1.1 on my phone because testers were having problems with the port of my theme. You think we don't check our work? how do you think we see how it looks after we create it? We have no choice but to flash our phones and you want to give us **** because your not smart enough to have a second SDcard with JF's RC33 install? I can see were they say ignorance is bliss, but in this situation it just makes you look like an arse! Try reading a bit before using something you don't understand! Wait a min you don't have to understand it, there is about 1000 people here that will hold your hand threw the whole process!
It's flamers like you that ruin a community, instead of educating yourself, you feel you need to tell the devs what they should be doing. If you don't like the job we are doing put in the 4 hours or so to learn how to theme!
/RANT

And the dip**** of the month award goes to............the original poster come on down LOL

alot of the bad flashes happen from bad downloads...
i have had to download some files twice to get the full file... also downloading straight to the phone without the pc can lead to corrupted downloads and partial downloads.
if you have a backup sdcard, just put the jf rc1.41 on there and name it update.zip incase of emergency...

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To start. Anyone That has a bricked phone or a broken market place.Pu your sd card in your pc redownload RC33 rename it update.zip, put it back in your phone and pull the battery if you are stuck on the start screen. Then follow the steps for normal update.
To the skinners. Please learn to fully check your work. Every Single RC33 skin on here is breaking peoples phones. I have tried EVERY single one and not a single one is working properly. You are putting people threw hell screwing up their phones. Its not that we do not appreciate your time and effort but ours is jsut as important and to have to keep reloading our phones because your taking shortcuts is not fair to anyone.
If you do nto have a phone to fuilly test your theme ont hen please request a tester before you post it.
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I agree, OP, your post is completely uncalled for. If you hate the risks involved in trying out new themes then dont try any. Themeing is not an exact science and is still relatively new. I can also support the argument that many themes have disclaimers on them warning you about the possibilities that things can happen.
SO, with all that said it is your own fault for bricking your phone.
It is your own fault for all the trouble you've put yourself through.
It is you that downloads the update.
It is you that puts it on your phone.
It is you that presses alt - s. We dont make you do anything, therefore, it is your fault.
You, and only you, are responsible for what happens to your phone and what you choose to do to your phone.
Stericson
Btw, wheres my name in the post above huh?

YEP!
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alot of the bad flashes happen from bad downloads...
i have had to download some files twice to get the full file... also downloading straight to the phone without the pc can lead to corrupted downloads and partial downloads.
if you have a backup sdcard, just put the jf rc1.41 on there and name it update.zip incase of emergency...
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That's what I do... I have a reader and usually keep backup flashes on a 25MB card I had from back when I first got a phone with an SD Card.
This dude is a Joke for real... The whole movement of Developers is to break-fix-improve on existing,new, and future technological advances.
So what you bricked your phone a few times compared to the rest of us here.
Suck it up yuh dillweed!!!
Reading is fundamental, for some of us I guess. Cause for almost everything that could possibly break the phone (apart from putting it on the rinse cycle at the laundromat) there is a fix out there.
Sooooooooooo fortunate I wasn't a moderator, I'd ban yuh stupid @$* just for making your first post a bad one!

WTF???? This whole OS is beta so noone can complain about anything!
Good job ALL of the developers, whether you're doing themes or coming up with apps or whatever you're doing, it makes our life whole lot easier.
OP, you're not worthy of Dream, go get an iphone

2 things to say...
1. if your new n dont understand n wanna get root n apply themes then KNOW WHAT THE heck ya gettin into... learn how to backup ur phone... regular people such as myself wit a lil bit of patience can figure it out...
now im new to making themes, butt ive editted plenty n kno the ins n outs
2. how the hell can u take a screenshot without testing the themes dumb ... ....... if u cant read there is an informal disclaimer cleaerly stating, try at u own risk not B.Y.O.B. - Bring your own BS
keep up the good work, look forward to editting more themes, n working with more of u in this great community... forget about this thread.

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To start. Anyone That has a bricked phone or a broken market place.Pu your sd card in your pc redownload RC33 rename it update.zip, put it back in your phone and pull the battery if you are stuck on the start screen. Then follow the steps for normal update.
To the skinners. Please learn to fully check your work. Every Single RC33 skin on here is breaking peoples phones. I have tried EVERY single one and not a single one is working properly. You are putting people threw hell screwing up their phones. Its not that we do not appreciate your time and effort but ours is jsut as important and to have to keep reloading our phones because your taking shortcuts is not fair to anyone.
If you do nto have a phone to fuilly test your theme ont hen please request a tester before you post it.
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sorry dude but you are an IDIOT. I've put 2 different R33 themes on my phone and NOT one has bricked my phone. Do better research before you flame and create a thread that has no facts to support it.

just sayin thanx!
this is probably my 2nd or 3rd post only do to the fact that unlike most ppl I USE THE SEARCH OPTION when im having ans issue lol. ever since i got my first smartphone (t-mobile dash) and i found this site i've been sooo much happier. the devs and even other ppl like myself have made me the envy of many ppl due to their hard work and i definitly appreciate it. this post was sort of off topic but its dummies like op that piss me off. most themes/updates have DISCLAIMERS and most even have DETAILED walkthroughs dont blame anyone but yourself if u dont pay attention or ask question and use SEARCH FORUMS option. sidebar (im so hooked on this site that on a trip to south carolina where i was roaming on at&t's service on one bar that i actually drove 6 miles to sit on the side of the highway for 1hr until i got a good signal JUST so i could download the newest themes and jf's update) lol who new no one in the south wouldnt have wifi that i could steal? bottomline i love this site and all ur hard work! a dedicated G1 owner! ps. in the spirit of the market FIRST! lmmfao

I am so SICK of this rubbish! Hybrid/Frankie - gone again

Once again the theme i use can no longer be updated! Why for the love of god are we still arguing about giving credit for a few stupid icons? Personally i'm giving up on the xda themes board! Do we honestly want to argue about who owns a freaking metallic bar or clock? Or would we rather have decent themes? Well i know what i wanted, but as i seem to be in the minority I'm giving up on the board and it's Nazi mods - yes i'm sure i'll get banned for this but as it's going to be impossible to download any themes anyway what difference does it make!
Thanks again for taking what's supposed to be a bit of fun and ruining it for everyone!

Didnt that only happen once? And arent there still a bunch of people like me still making themes and not at all bothered by people using them or editing them or copying them?
I just wanted to remind you that what you just described only represents a very small minority of this community.

So long as you ask for permission BEFORE you post any "hybrids", then there shouldn't be a problem. A few "stupid" icons is someone's hard work. Permission for releasing SOMEONE ELSE'S work is required anywhere. It is not a XDA forums only deal.

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Once again the theme i use can no longer be updated! Why for the love of god are we still arguing about giving credit for a few stupid icons? Personally i'm giving up on the xda themes board! Do we honestly want to argue about who owns a freaking metallic bar or clock? Or would we rather have decent themes? Well i know what i wanted, but as i seem to be in the minority I'm giving up on the board and it's Nazi mods - yes i'm sure i'll get banned for this but as it's going to be impossible to download any themes anyway what difference does it make!
Thanks again for taking what's supposed to be a bit of fun and ruining it for everyone!
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Shut up nerd. You want something, make it yourself then.

i dont use the theme but yeah this dumb imho.. especially like brandek said.. most devs have said they honestly dont care.. a nice gesture.. but not required.. oh well.. guess our community lost a theme and a developer over some nonsense.. =/

faithnolonger said:
Once again the theme i use can no longer be updated! Why for the love of god are we still arguing about giving credit for a few stupid icons? Personally i'm giving up on the xda themes board! Do we honestly want to argue about who owns a freaking metallic bar or clock? Or would we rather have decent themes? Well i know what i wanted, but as i seem to be in the minority I'm giving up on the board and it's Nazi mods - yes i'm sure i'll get banned for this but as it's going to be impossible to download any themes anyway what difference does it make!
Thanks again for taking what's supposed to be a bit of fun and ruining it for everyone!
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atool4all or whatever his name was decided not to respect anybody else's work even after he was given a chance to rectify things. No respect for others that put in hard work shouldn't be accepted anywhere. If you can't see that then I hoped you enjoy your stay here on these boards. so long, bye, cya

To be completely unbiased about the whole situation and shed a bit of light on the whole issue... if the theme developers who originally created the art are open to anyone using their work they need to specifically say so in their posting of a theme. Taking icons from deviant art and not giving credit is a violation of intellectual property rights and could result in lawsuits if appropriate actions are not taken and if permission directly from the artist is not given. Being a person that worked for several years in the entertainment industry, I can tell you first hand that you need to cite work if its not yours... regardless where it comes from. If you "borrow" art for your own purposes, good for you but don't expect a good reaction if you release it as your own.
Recap:
1. Theme makers, if you don't care if people use your original artwork for their own themes... make sure to document very clearly when posting your themes.
2. "Tracers" <'Chasing Amy' reference for those who know it> if a theme maker says they don't care that you use their work please give credit. The artwork isn't as easy as it looks to be and a lot of free time that could be spent else where is being used to contribute to the freedom that we have on this forum.
Know what I'm saying??? Moderators agree???

all the mods said is add your sources but he did not, and as for a few icons just from my theme his dialer and a few icons are from me how hard is it to thank the creators for the use of their work? it is the polite thing to do. like i said i don't care if people use my images but post where you get the images from. i am sorry to see he is banned for good all he had to do was add the sources.we all would like a descent theme but if you are asked to add sources do it, no big deal.the rules are fair and understandable. i would have liked to see him get one more warning, but i don't know if he did. when you make a theme or wallpaper you like to here looks good or nice or get some positive post on it same with the images.

I Dont Care
I dont care if anyone asks me to use my theme parts or not... personally i dont.
I think of this as open source work for anyone to use without my permission or giving me credit.. if they like it to use it thats my credit... I know what I created and its a form of flattery to me.
hard work or not... I like to see what people do with other parts of themes.
Use my stuff... I dont care.. its not like it is paid work or anything... if they get paid for my stuff than thats different... but as for now....
I DONT CARE...lol

good riddance. even i can make a theme from someone elses work. the photoshop editing is the hard part. this guy is no developer or theme creator. he is a hack and should be banned.

I agree.. he borrows other peoples work (some theme devs care, others don't) and doesn't credit anyone. It's just kind of rude, if you ask me... Personally, I don't care if he's here or gone. I thought his hybrid theme sucked any ways. It was a big sloppy mess, imo.

I'm sure I don't know everything that transpired, but I sure hope tootall4la was issued a deadline to cite sources in the OP before the ban became permanent
after all, in the IP world, "borrowing" someone's work only becomes problematic when the borrowee takes issue with it

i smell this coming:
THREAD CLOSED
btw dont really care about this topic

alapapa said:
I'm sure I don't know everything that transpired, but I sure hope tootall4la was issued a deadline to cite sources in the OP before the ban became permanent
after all, in the IP world, "borrowing" someone's work only becomes problematic when the borrowee takes issue with it
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He was given a week to cite sources and failed to do so.

haitiankid4lyf said:
i smell this coming:
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btw dont really care about this topic
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wish it would hurry up and get closed.
i'm sick of this Hybrid theme debate, the theme was a pile of crap anyway, it's not like it took any effort to cut n' paste a few icons.

MOONSSPOON said:
He was given a week to cite sources and failed to do so.
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As long as this was made abundantly clear and he didn't comply, he deserved the ban.

my $0.02 before the thread gets closed or deleted.
If the creator of hybrid can take the time to edit and take apart everyones theme to create his "hybrid" why can't he take 3 minutes to cite who's theme icon A was taken from?
He has no valid argument, he could of been given permission or not, giving credit where credit is due is just right.
I wonder what he would of said if I downloaded "hybrid" changed a couple of things and released it as my own work?

The OP was given a temp ban just over 1 week ago for not citing his sources and getting testy with some of the Mods.
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All it sounds like is miss use power of the mods. He gave credit to the authors of the themes he said. Still he gets banned for not complying with some rule pulled out of the air after a week. But I mean a week... maybe something came up.
I remember in school if you failed to give credit to your source for a essay you just got marked down a few % in your grade. you didnt get dropped from the class or kicked out of school for it.

Sistum Id said:
All it sounds like is miss use power of the mods. He gave credit to the authors of the themes he said. Still he gets banned for not complying with some rule pulled out of the air after a week. But I mean a week... maybe something came up.
I remember in school if you failed to give credit to your source for a essay you just got marked down a few % in your grade. you didnt get dropped from the class or kicked out of school for it.
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He was asked to give credit to the themes which he borrowed and he gave attitude. So he got a 1 week ban to cool off and come back to make things right. He didn't and gave more attitude and now he is banned for good. He had his chance and he blew it. Oh well his theme was ugly and wasn't even a good mashup.

Sistum Id said:
All it sounds like is miss use power of the mods. He gave credit to the authors of the themes he said. Still he gets banned for not complying with some rule pulled out of the air after a week. But I mean a week... maybe something came up.
I remember in school if you failed to give credit to your source for a essay you just got marked down a few % in your grade. you didnt get dropped from the class or kicked out of school for it.
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Updated Froyo 2.2

Closed Thread

Wait, what is this exactly?

Dude, where the hell have you been? There has always been a working froyo since day one. You are totally ignorant to figure that out just now..

Thanks for the kind words. I Know 2.2 has been here for awhile, but I have never been able to get it running properly till now.

A little harsh Hello? Also your breaking the ToS or whatever they call here with that tone... I would edit your post if I was you. Why your editing, why not reduce your silly signature size at the same time.

Serren said:
A little harsh Hello? Also your breaking the ToS or whatever they call here with that tone... I would edit your post if I was you. Why your editing, why not reduce your silly signature size at the same time.
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For sure but then you know what happens when you feed a troll.

Your comment doesn't even fit in the context of the first post, so what's your point? Your lack of caring in no way outweighs our lack of caring, so I guess we are at an impasse. Conclusion, these are the very same files you will find on the latest linux kernel zImages and modules website
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For sure but then you know what happens when you feed a troll.
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If you don't have anything better to say, don't say anything. Unless you want to turn this into a flaming war on here which I highly doubt it.
btw jz3 you just edited your first post so I guess you finally realized they are more builds out there and not just one.

thanks gona try it out

What is this exactly? Where did you get this system build from? It looks like stinebd's stock build, which i label as "reference" since its untouched.

jz3 said:
Don't believe the posts below, this is NOT Reefs build! See thumbnails below.
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Whose build is it then?

Reefermattness said:
What is this? The exact same thing as in my thread? lol.... wow ive seen it all now.
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Hmm, just got back into town and see the bashing continues. Reef, did you actually download and examine my file to come to this conclusion? I will take the high road here since I did appreciate Reef's dedication to this project. Thanks Serren & lordstrife for my back. This is my last post on these forums walking away disgusted.

no no no no no... i dont wanna see this. lets remember our common goals.
did anyone try this yet? i couldnt get it running just yet but i keep getting errors after the keyboard selection when i press run android.
havnt had too much time to tweak, but hey... cant we all jus get along? unity friends

hello00 said:
If you don't have anything better to say, don't say anything. Unless you want to turn this into a flaming war on here which I highly doubt it.
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Take your own advice!

I've been running Xdandroid for 3 months. I don't remember when I updated to 2.2..I believe it was July. All of my IPhone Geekers are asking me how to Jailbreak there devices(I haven't got a clue and don't plan on it). It is great work here and I am excited, looking forward to continuos great work. Positive injection..
Sent from my MSM
HTC Tilt 2

oh4sho said:
I've been running Xdandroid for 3 months. I don't remember when I updated to 2.2..I believe it was July. All of my IPhone Geekers are asking me how to Jailbreak there devices(I haven't got a clue and don't plan on it). It is great work here and I am excited, looking forward to continuos great work. Positive injection..
Sent from my MSM
HTC Tilt 2
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Tell your
Iphone friends to goto jailbreak me.com on their iPhones and follow the directions.

jz3 said:
This is my last post on these forums walking away disgusted.
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Good. We are all disgusted when people steal things and try to claim them as their own.
Maybe if you said where it came from, how you put it together, or highlighted HOW it's different from other builds that are already posted, we would be MUCH more receptive... But from your first post, it just looks like you stole it and tried to pass it off as something you built. That is just shameful, and will NOT be tolerated on this forum.

I didnt see any claim of ownership, unless the post was edited.
A history of the files and such of course would be helpful. And credit given to those who actually created the files is a no-brainer.
But still, I know XDA is the "big leagues", but cant we be a bit nicer? For all we know, this guy could be the next big thing. Just saying...

he edited his first post saying that he has a working froyo he never said it was his but it looked like it since he hasn't given any credit to whomever that build belongs to

in the OP he said it was not reef's build. He's not taking credit, but he's not giving it either, which is probably what bothered most of the people in this thread.
Only the guilty run like cowards IMO.

Roast him !!!

[Q] Theme chooser problems, need help.

I love the theme chooser themes nowadays, but why do they have to have battery percentage? I don't have the smarts to do it myself. And it's kind of rediculus that some devs say they "can't remove it" help please, themes like the elegant blue, and the sense 4. I purchased and donated, and asked to take battery percentage off and just have an icon only. But nope. Can somebody help

Because they put it there they aren't gunna just take it out because you don't like it.
I'll give ya the short and sweet.
Decompile the app
Remove all 200+ pngs (that they might have made from scratch each one)
Remove the XML in drawable for the battery and battery charger.XML
Recompile the app
Sign it
Install it and realize all this could have been avoided by getting over the fact that there are numbers in your battery.
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ÜBER™ said:
Because they put it there they aren't gunna just take it out because you don't like it.
I'll give ya the short and sweet.
Decompile the app
Remove all 200+ pngs (that they might have made from scratch each one)
Remove the XML in drawable for the battery and battery charger.XML
Recompile the app
Sign it
Install it and realize all this could have been avoided by getting over the fact that there are numbers in your battery.
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Okay, I don't know what there wasn't an understanding about, I don't have the smarts to do all that, sorry.. But I donate a lot too, but I guess that dosent help very much. Second. I'm on a apple iPad 3 which is very much close to a garbage heap.

listen man, this that you ask might even be possible, but the fact is that many won't go out of their way to remove something that many enjoy.
i still use normal battery graphics. i'm kanging theme chooser into my flavour, to enjoy battery percentage from time to time.
why dont you search for the cm theme template and go from there?
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Shadowfox993 said:
Okay, I don't know what there wasn't an understanding about, I don't have the smarts to do all that, sorry.. But I donate a lot too, but I guess that dosent help very much. Second. I'm on a apple iPad 3 which is very much close to a garbage heap.
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I guess you didn't get the hint that I am one of those themers that absolutely hate when people ask for the stock battery. Want the stock battery use the stock theme. Otherwise figure out how to do it yourself or better yet get over it.
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ÜBER™ said:
I guess you didn't get the hint that I am one of those themers that absolutely hate when people ask for the stock battery. Want the stock battery use the stock theme. Otherwise figure out how to do it yourself or better yet get over it.
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Alright man, you don't have to be a jerk okay?. Maybe if somebody had the patience to actually explain the process and leave some "positive" feed back. And may I say, many of my partners have the same trouble, but don't think your "themes" are anything of superior quality. So. If you do not have anything nice to say and keep the forum clean, then don't post Thankyou. Positive comments only please.

Shadowfox993 said:
Alright man, you don't have to be a jerk okay?. Maybe if somebody had the patience to actually explain the process and leave some "positive" feed back. And may I say, many of my partners have the same trouble, but don't think your "themes" are anything of superior quality. So. If you do not have anything nice to say and keep the forum clean, then don't post Thankyou. Positive comments only please.
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I did help you I told you exactly what to do. And how do my themes have a say in any of this.... take your own advice and don't post if you don't have anything positive to say you hypocrite.
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