Backlight will go off after 7 sec... - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Dear all,
I've decided to recover a backup file from SBP backup. Neraly everything is restored perfect, just the backlight is a problem...
After 7 seconds of use, the backlight will go off.
I can chane these settings in the setting ==> backlight tab, but everytime after a soft reset or after placing the device in standby and continue using it, it is back on 7 sec...
My second stap was to search in the register.
I've found HKEY Current User ==> Control pannel ==> backlight
I can see here that the value of the 'BatteryTimeout = 7'
So here is the problem, I can set it to 60 and now it is working, but...
after entering standby or softresetting the device ==> The register is set back to 7 sec...
Can someone help me to let it 60? Make it read-only or something like it?
Thanks in advance!
Ranney
It's imbeliveble! I've searched on google yesterday for four hours, this morning for 2 hours, and now decided to make a post here. As happy as I am now, I've found the solution here!
==> http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-351709.html

I have the 10 second issue too - it is related to using an exchange server..
Were you using at tp2? Which version of WinMo? and which fix on the link you posted worked for you?
For anyone else who finds this: DO NOT use the HTC tilt cab fix... your backlight will never come back on after a lock...
Thanks!

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Backlight settings autochange when phone power off

Hi,
I hope to get some help, as this problem start to make me crazy !
I go to Settings - System - Backlight - Battery Power, Check checkbox and set timeout to 30 sec.
All is OK.
I press "Power" button (or wait till ppc auto switch off), then, when I switch PPC back on ....
Bam! : time out is back to 10 sec
I tried to change settings for "external power", but problem does not happen.
It must be linked to an application, cause I made a backup and hard reset, problem was gone. After restore, problem was back.
As I have a lot of apps installed and configured, it's a pain to restart.
I tried to remove all links from "\windows\Startup" and all today plugin, but no change.
I checked notifications with FDC task manager 2.7, but the only event that could be related (NOTIFICATION_EVENT_WACKUP) is linked to prog "\\.\Notifications\NamedEvent\TimeWizardWakeup"
Is there anyway to know what is launched at wakeup (registry ?).
I've Schaps 3.57a installed
Thanks a lot for any help
AlainL said:
Hi,
I hope to get some help, as this problem start to make me crazy !
I go to Settings - System - Backlight - Battery Power, Check checkbox and set timeout to 30 sec.
All is OK.
I press "Power" button (or wait till ppc auto switch off), then, when I switch PPC back on ....
Bam! : time out is back to 10 sec
I tried to change settings for "external power", but problem does not happen.
It must be linked to an application, cause I made a backup and hard reset, problem was gone. After restore, problem was back.
As I have a lot of apps installed and configured, it's a pain to restart.
I tried to remove all links from "\windows\Startup" and all today plugin, but no change.
I checked notifications with FDC task manager 2.7, but the only event that could be related (NOTIFICATION_EVENT_WACKUP) is linked to prog "\\.\Notifications\NamedEvent\TimeWizardWakeup"
Is there anyway to know what is launched at wakeup (registry ?).
I've Schaps 3.57a installed
Thanks a lot for any help
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Hi.
As you say you can view the lauched apps after wakeup in notifications queue.
Anyway, seems the issue is related to some app you install before the OS, so you can do some research installing step by step every app and doing deep test on every install.
I have Schaps 3.54b ESN and don't have any issue with power or black light.
Regards.
I had this problem months ago when using the original stock WM5 ROM that came with my device. There is some evidence that it is caused by PhoneAlarm.
There are fixes for it by making reg changes. I fixed my problem by deleting this entire key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER \ControlPanel\BackLight \LockLevel\LockLevel
But you might be able to fix it by setting the value to 0.
You can find historical info by searching the Hermes forums and child forums for 'LockLevel'.
FWIW, I had no problems with phoneAlarm after making the change, so if you are using it, you CAN continue to do so after deleting that key.
Hope this helps...good luck.
-pvs
Solved, thank you
pvs said:
But you might be able to fix it by setting the value to 0
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Thanks a lot, you are my saver
Setting this value to 0 solved my problem
In my case, I never installed phonealarm, but I suspect rather PocketZenPhone.
I tried different version, but I always had problem with it on my TyTN (but all was OK on my magician, I even registred it).
xda-dev is really a great place
^ftmfw. Thanks xda.
You can also visit this page to get more solution:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351709
Thanks XDA. My problem solved...

Wi-Fi in standby. Tried all, nothing works :(

Hi,
Like you sure have heared before, the Touch Pro 2 disconnects the Wi-Fi when in standby mode. Normally this isn't a big problem, but because i often use MSN messenger on my phone, it automatically enables GPRS/UMTS when the phone goes in to standby. Because of this i will have data costs when i have a Wi-Fi available too. I have tried some tweaks i found here already. I have used tools like HD tweak. These wouldn't work for me. I have also tried changing the registry keys manually. I changed to following keys.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1 (was 4 before)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1 (was 4 before)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1 (was 0 before)
This also has no effect and for some reason everytime i soft-reset my device, the unattended key has changed back to 0 again.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve this problem? I dont mind that GPRS/UMTS starts automatically when no other connection is active. But I have Wi-Fi only enabled when i actually use it so i dont mind the battery life too much in that case.
Hope anyone has a solution. Thnx in advance..
me too.
Tried advanced-configuration-tool , HD Tweak, Diamond Tweak, none of these work.
Any solution?
RB85 said:
Hi,
Like you sure have heared before, the Touch Pro 2 disconnects the Wi-Fi when in standby mode. Normally this isn't a big problem, but because i often use MSN messenger on my phone, it automatically enables GPRS/UMTS when the phone goes in to standby. Because of this i will have data costs when i have a Wi-Fi available too. I have tried some tweaks i found here already. I have used tools like HD tweak. These wouldn't work for me. I have also tried changing the registry keys manually. I changed to following keys.
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Suspend\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1 (was 4 before)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Resuming\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1 (was 4 before)
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Power\State\Unattended\{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}
-change (Default) DWORD Dec to 1 (was 0 before)
This also has no effect and for some reason everytime i soft-reset my device, the unattended key has changed back to 0 again.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve this problem? I dont mind that GPRS/UMTS starts automatically when no other connection is active. But I have Wi-Fi only enabled when i actually use it so i dont mind the battery life too much in that case.
Hope anyone has a solution. Thnx in advance..
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Worked it out!!!!!!!!
make the changes in reg:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms]
"HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETW12511\Parms]
"HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended"=dword:00000001
Only the 1st key is needed. thanks
jzhyok said:
Worked it out!!!!!!!!
make the changes in reg:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms]
"HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended"=dword:00000001
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETW12511\Parms]
"HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended"=dword:00000001
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Sweet! Thanks you should put this up in the tweaks sticky!
Pimmr said:
Sweet! Thanks you should put this up in the tweaks sticky!
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Doing it now
loving this - works perfect (after a soft reset, for me)
Thanks!
martinjclarke said:
loving this - works perfect (after a soft reset, for me)
Thanks!
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in fact, you don't have to do the soft-reset
it takes effect immediately(at least for me)
It looks like since I changed this setting, the battery drains very quickly. This morning 8AM it was fully charged, now 2PM its on 40%, and I haven't hardly touched it...
I will restore the key value to 0 again to see if it solves the battery drain...
Yes this works also for Topaz. However you need to keep something in mind:
This setting may reset itself on soft-reset (some people on Topaz forum reported this)
This will drain battery like a "mofo". I would not suggest using it unless you really need it, like when using VoIP completely and no normal 'call' at all.
Please note that "MSN Messenger" use will also use lot of power, as it may keep the phone in unattended mode, which uses much more power than normal true "standby" (suspended) mode.
Final, for Topaz you would use TNETW... registry hack, for Rhodium you use the BCM.... one. You don't need to do both (Rhodium introduces new Wi-Fi chip compared to last 10 or so HTC phones)
Effect is immediate - however beware when connecting/disconnecting USB cable/activesync at the same time as switching back/from unattended mode, as the activesync connection bug worked around by the Topaz and Rhodium Wi-Fi drivers will temporarily disable Wi-Fi, may reset this setting, and data connections made at the exact moment this happens will use the cellular connection instead of Wi-Fi.
(I needed to disasm entire driver to figure this out for new WMWifiRouter Topaz/Rhodium compatibility patch )
working perfectly
Guys,
Off course if you apply this hack and leave WIFI on all the time the battery will be dead in no time. Whenever you know that you won't be using it, wifi should be turned off. I like this hack because in the case were I am online on MSN for example, I don't have to keep concerned about the device shutting off so that I don't loose connection. It can suspend and still have wifi connection.
However, when I stop using wifi, I turn wifi off completely from communication manager to save battery. What is the use of wifi being kept on with no need for it?
What I love about my Nokia E71 is that it automatically asks me to choose a way to connect when I access a web site or send/receive an email or try to log into MSN. I would just choose the access point and viola as easy as that. In wm, we have to turn on wifi and then do what we want to do.
I guess its a small price to pay for having such a device
Ok, this is my report. I only change the 1st key & it will stick even on soft-reset.
12AM full charge. Device in standby mode with wifi always on & live mail set to sync as item arrive. 6.45AM = Alarm triggered, battery at 80% , 25 email in inbox, 3 in junk folder. Device was set to play tone & vibrate on new email. Volume below medium. Good enough for me
Works perfect on my sprint tp2. just the first registry change needed (second isn't even there). I then mapped the left soft key in the today screen in manilla to \windows\wifisettings.exe so that it is easy to manually turn this on/off. It worked perfect for me for a couple days until I fell asleep surfing the web and the battery was dead when I awoke.
Note: I just changed it back and turned wifi settings to best performance instead. I will just have to deal with continually having to go to the service agreement page for the open network at my hospital. This is better than a dead battery.
WiFi always-on tweak now broken on TP2/WM6.5
Chainfire said:
Yes this works also for Topaz. However you need to keep something in mind:
This setting may reset itself on soft-reset (some people on Topaz forum reported this)
This will drain battery like a "mofo". I would not suggest using it unless you really need it, like when using VoIP completely and no normal 'call' at all.
Please note that "MSN Messenger" use will also use lot of power, as it may keep the phone in unattended mode, which uses much more power than normal true "standby" (suspended) mode.
Final, for Topaz you would use TNETW... registry hack, for Rhodium you use the BCM.... one. You don't need to do both (Rhodium introduces new Wi-Fi chip compared to last 10 or so HTC phones)
Effect is immediate - however beware when connecting/disconnecting USB cable/activesync at the same time as switching back/from unattended mode, as the activesync connection bug worked around by the Topaz and Rhodium Wi-Fi drivers will temporarily disable Wi-Fi, may reset this setting, and data connections made at the exact moment this happens will use the cellular connection instead of Wi-Fi.
(I needed to disasm entire driver to figure this out for new WMWifiRouter Topaz/Rhodium compatibility patch )
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Hi Chainfire,
Looks like this tweak setting is now reseting itself on soft-reset on the TP2 with the official WM6.5 ROM.
(Used to work for TP2/WM6.1).
Searched the Rhodium/Topaz forums for a solution - no luck.
Have you had any luck with your disassembler ?
-- haongusa.
haongusa said:
Hi Chainfire,
Looks like this tweak setting is now reseting itself on soft-reset on the TP2 with the official WM6.5 ROM.
(Used to work for TP2/WM6.1).
Searched the Rhodium/Topaz forums for a solution - no luck.
Have you had any luck with your disassembler ?
-- haongusa.
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Any luck with this? I just flashed the official WWE 6.5 ROM yesterday and I experience the same...
jzhyok said:
Worked it out!!!!!!!!
make the changes in reg:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\BCMSDDHD1\Parms]
"HTCKeepWifiOnWhenUnattended"=dword:00000001
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So I only need to change this.NOTHING ELSE?
The other registries are not necessary to change from 4->1 ?
EDIT: Never mind, you should also change the other registries
But now, my phone doesnt sleep on its own, I have to force it by hitting the power button
This worked for me for a while and then it stopped. It was doing exactly what i wanted (ie...downloading my emails even during standby), then all of a sudden, it stopped and kept turning on the data connection. The registry values didn't change back to default, but it still kept undoing the edit. I thought of a [less effective] way around it still.
Since wifi disables during standby, disable standby. When my phone's not being used, the backlight turns off and the phone locks, but you can still see the contents of the screen and wifi stays on. I JUST started trying it, so I don't know what that does for the battery as yet. If anyone can gimme some advice, please do.
Same here with the stock 6.5 rom.
A solution would be really good...
Am i to think that it only remains constant on the 6.1 rom?

tf3d won't start on soft reset

I have a weird issue with my TP2.
When i reset it... it boots up and i can see the HTC logo but tf3d won't start.. i went into settings unchecked tf3d and reticked it.. no difference!
How is the executable called? anyone elese experiencing this issue?
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
You can run the manila.exe found in the Windows folder but I've found that when doing this, the clock on the home tab doesn't refresh/change and the notification balloons don't come up (the little round icon on the sms tab when you have unread sms's for example)
the workaround worked like a blast. Thanks..
I could not find that thread describing it.. i wonder why HTC did not release any hotfix for this.
How is the manila.exe started???
Hi!
I have the same issue, Touchflo3d not starting after boot on my swedish Touch Pro2.
If i try to manually start manila.exe i also get the clock freeze on the start screen and no mail/message notifications.
I've tried two hard resets, and adding programs and settings one at a time just to try to find the reason for this, but no luck. It feels like it's all random, it all works with apps installed, and suddenly it stops working, no changes made.
I notice that when i manually execute \windows\manila.exe the screen goes from the black screen with the HTC logo directly to the start screen of touchflo3d. When everything works the way it should do, there is a difference, a text appears on the black screen under the HTC logo, something like "starting Touchflo3D".
I'm not that good at windows mobile myself, but i hope someone on this forum, that has a phone with touchflo3d, can find the difference between starting the manila.exe manually, not seeing the "starting Touchflo"-test, compared to the automatic start with that text.
I hope that would lead to a solution or fix, i would not mind very much having to start touchflo myself with a click, but i'd like to start it the same way it does when working so the clock and notifications work as it should.
Let's all hope some of the many extremly skilled members here picks up the glove and takes a good look at this!!
Best regards
Cerebral Cortex
Phone screen will disapper?
herpi said:
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
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Thanx it worked for me!
But now TF3D will come in front when I make a call. So after 5 seconds calling the first screen of TF3D (the clock) will appear. Then I have to press the first button (phone) to get the phone screen again. Verry sad.
I also can not use the program Notes anymore when calling, the program will go to the back. And TF3D will come to the front!
Someone know the answer?
Thanx in advance,
Richard
Hi,
i had the same problem and tried many solutions until i found what was the cause for that problem: S2U2. Once i disabled the S2U2-autostart on boot up, tf3d is always starting the way its supposed to. I simply removed the ilock2-shortcut from windows/autostart and start it manually after tf3d has launched. Not really perfect, but better than everything else for me.
Do you use S2U2?
Regards
MiDiAN
MiDiANx360 said:
Hi,
i had the same problem and tried many solutions until i found what was the cause for that problem: S2U2. Once i disabled the S2U2-autostart on boot up, tf3d is always starting the way its supposed to. I simply removed the ilock2-shortcut from windows/autostart and start it manually after tf3d has launched. Not really perfect, but better than everything else for me.
Do you use S2U2?
Regards
MiDiAN
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I did the same, disabled s2u2, and no more problems. After a while however the hanging came back randomly.
S2u2 is back now. Mothers little helper! I can live with the flightmode on and off solution.
Huib
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveke0201
have a problem with s2u2 v2.04 wvga and 3dtf. after installation it wont boot anymore.
this is what i tried.
start stop 3dtf => not starting
stop ilock2, stop start 3dtf => not starting.
does work with the 1.62.
can anyone help me?
************* reply from ac ************
Try to set a longer "Boot-up Delay" (S2U2 Settings->Advanced).
__________________
Cheers,
A_C
http://ac-s2.com
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I've set my bootup delay in the advanced menu to 20seconds and my problem is gone.
pieterbotes said:
I've set my bootup delay in the advanced menu to 20seconds and my problem is gone.
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Nope, 20 secs does not do the job in my case.
Tried several combinations and different ways of startup, but no deal.
I already had the problem without S2U2 so I cannot possibly blame them.
I still am stuck at the flightmode trick which gives a 100% success.
Huib
Moisture damage perhaps???
herpi said:
Known problem.
The best workaround I found till now:
1. Switch on Flightmode. (use the red phone button press for more than 3 seconds)
2 Reset/Restart
3. Switch off flightmode. The PIN screen comes up automatically.
Works in 100% of the cases.
Huib
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I have the same issue. The first time this behavior surfaced for me was right after i´d applied Zagg´s inivisible shield.
I must admit that i lacked the patience to be leaving the phone for 12 hours drying up.
I´d put it in a dry, warm & well ventilated place for approximately 4 hours and thought that should suffice.
When the phone started acting up i used up all the non-printable 4 letter words i knew and did a hard reset.
Anyway - the problem has showed up about every third time i do a soft reset.
To me the solution has so far been another soft-reset.
Regards
Have the same problem, it's driving me nuts. Hate reseting the phone - it takes ages to boot up.
Won't spend time trying to fix this, will just not reboot/reset often. Hopefully the WM6.5/TF3D official package sometime in October will cure this.
vasra said:
Have the same problem, it's driving me nuts. Hate reseting the phone - it takes ages to boot up.
Won't spend time trying to fix this, will just not reboot/reset often. Hopefully the WM6.5/TF3D official package sometime in October will cure this.
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I combine the flightmode trick together with the SlidetoShutdown, where I use the restart slider.
Doing it this way makes it more acceptable.
Huib
Hmm... I've had success with the 20 second thing but now that is also not working for me anymore... not sure what changed.
pieterbotes said:
Hmm... I've had success with the 20 second thing but now that is also not working for me anymore... not sure what changed.
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It is quite random.
The flight-on/restart/flight-off always works, at least in my tp2.
Huib
so i've tried checking on/off Today/Item/TF3D, tried Flight Mode, and it still won't work. i'm talking like only 30-50% of the time it does work. and I never had PIN1 enabled!
i'm no programmer but it is conflicting with apps we install because TF3D works perfectly when the phone was fresh or hard-resetted. btw i'm using 6.1 Stock T-mobile

Backlight Settings Not Being Saved on Tilt 2 Phone

Is anyone else having problems with the backlight settings not being saved on the Tilt 2? I set my phone to have the backlight remain on for 1 minute, not 10 seconds as is the default setting. Every time that I soft reset the phone, however, it reverts back to the 10-second setting. How come my settings are not staying saved?
DD7374 said:
Is anyone else having problems with the backlight settings not being saved on the Tilt 2? I set my phone to have the backlight remain on for 1 minute, not 10 seconds as is the default setting. Every time that I soft reset the phone, however, it reverts back to the 10-second setting. How come my settings are not staying saved?
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Try making the changes, and then shutting the phone down by holding the power button, and then restart the phone, and see if that works for you.
Backlight Issue on Tilt 2
SacTilt said:
Try making the changes, and then shutting the phone down by holding the power button, and then restart the phone, and see if that works for you.
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Thanks for the reply. Shutting down the phone is what is causing the backlight setting not to be saved and to revert back to the 10-second setting. I did try it again, though, as you suggested; but I got the same problem... It's a minor issue, but it's still frustrating. Thanks again for your response, though.
I have the same problem and i dont know what's causing it.
If you have added programs to your phone, that possibly could be the cause of the problem. I experienced it after adding a program.
You will have to remove your added programs, one by one, to see which one is the offender.
prubin said:
If you have added programs to your phone, that possibly could be the cause of the problem. I experienced it after adding a program.
You will have to remove your added programs, one by one, to see which one is the offender.
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Thanks for the reply. I've just gotten the phone, so I haven't really installed any programs yet. The only one that I've installed is the "Marketplace" program that comes with the phone. I doubt that this is what's causing the problem. Thanks, though. Do you have any other thoughts? I've jus rebooted the phone again, and once more the backlight setting has reverted back to the 10-seconds setting. It's annoying! AT&T suggests that I hard-reset the phone to fix any potential bugs in the software. I'm not keen on doing this, however...
i had this problem with the new windows mobile 6.5 lockscreen and an older windows mobile 6.5 rom.
upgrading to a newer rom fixed this for me.
alternative: don't use the new lock screen.
Backlight Dimming Issue on Tilt 2
I just came across a fix (called TiltBacklightFix - see the link below to that page) for the Tilt (1) phone - I guess the same issue was found in those phones. I downloaded the cab to my phone, hoping that it might work on the Tilt 2 also.
Here are the results: After powering down and back on again, the diplay indicates that the backlight setting has reverted back to the 10-second setting - at least that's what the phone shows when going into the power settings. In actuality, though, control over the backlight appears to be disabled altogether. The backlight doesn't dim at all - the phone simply shuts off (power-saving mode) after however long that setting is set for.
You could, however, then go into the settings and change the backlight time to what you want. It saves it - until, of course, the phone is powered down and back up again. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'm back at square one.
Anyone have any other thoughts? Has anyone heard of a TiltBacklightFix cab created for Tilt 2 devices?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4879524#post4879524
I recognize that this is an old thread, but I recently acquired a Tilt 2, and have this exact issue. I couldn't find a solution until a kind soul mentioned to me that some older devices (such as the Tilt) had the same problem. Then, I found this this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1736898&postcount=5
After applying the fix there, my backlight issue *seems* to be solved! Hopefully it stays that way . . .

[APP] TomTom Launcher for disabling timeout

EDIT:
Having trouble keeping the program focusing, so does not work yet.
It's a basic program which makes sure the display doesn't timeout while TomTom is running. Devices such as the HTC Maple and the HTC Excalibur doesn't support this function natively.
I have only tested it on my HTC Maple and it works fine. The default path to TomTom is \Storage Card\Program Files\Navigator\TomTom Navigator.exe
It comes with two programs, one is for launching TomTom and the other one is to change the default path. I suggest copying the files into your TomTom folder, but it doesn't matter. Remember to create a shortcut to the launcher and add it to your startmenu for easy access.
It could work on the HTC Excalibur but I haven't tested yet, so If someone could test and reply to this thread, that would be great.
Hmm?!? I've been using WinMo for quite some years, since Qtek S200 and also serveral different versions of TomTom, 5 6 and 7, and I never, but never saw my pda going timeout due to TomTom...
The same I cannot say of iGo8...
onesolo said:
Hmm?!? I've been using WinMo for quite some years, since Qtek S200 and also serveral different versions of TomTom, 5 6 and 7, and I never, but never saw my pda going timeout due to TomTom...
The same I cannot say of iGo8...
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I think the timeout being referred to is when you have a PIN setup? I am going to download and try on Diamond - will post result.
Can it be used for Garmin as well?
I don't know about Tom Tom but I have the same issue with Garmin - could you modify this app so that it will so the same for Garmin? WOuld be greatly appreciated
burnes said:
I think the timeout being referred to is when you have a PIN setup? I am going to download and try on Diamond - will post result.
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What pin setup??
onesolo said:
Hmm?!? I've been using WinMo for quite some years, since Qtek S200 and also serveral different versions of TomTom, 5 6 and 7, and I never, but never saw my pda going timeout due to TomTom...
The same I cannot say of iGo8...
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Your right, I've used the HTC Universal and that work fine for TomTom. But with phones such as the HTC Excalibur and now my phone the HTC Maple, the TomTom times out. So the problem probably vary with different phones and maybe even different TomTom version.
Ross202 said:
I don't know about Tom Tom but I have the same issue with Garmin - could you modify this app so that it will so the same for Garmin? WOuld be greatly appreciated
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Have you tried using this program with Garmin as well? Even though it says its for tomtom it could be used for other programs.
If it doesn't work its probably because your device has a different pvDevice name than my HTC Maple. The pvDevice name is needed to access the power functions on the phone (Mine is BKL1: ). What is your device name? I could check the pvDevice name and update the program to work with your phone and my phone
Same issue with Garmin
Have you tried using this program with Garmin as well? Even though it says its for tomtom it could be used for other programs.
If it doesn't work its probably because your device has a different pvDevice name than my HTC Maple. The pvDevice name is needed to access the power functions on the phone (Mine is BKL1: ). What is your device name? I could check the pvDevice name and update the program to work with your phone and my phone [/QUOTE]
Thanks for the prompt reply. I am currently using my old iMate JasJam (runs wm6.1) as the GPS chip on my HD2 died. It is - hopefully - being repaired as we speak. However, as I am off to the Czech Republic in a week for a holiday I may have to use it instead. Nothing worse than having to restart the phone every 5 min as you are walking around trying to see the sights.
Don't know what "pvDevice name" is or where to find it. Under Device settings in wm6.1 it says my model no is Herm100 and Platform is PocketPC using CRCs rom version r13.5 but I'm guessing that's not what you are referring to.
I will try just installing it and see what happens. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this app would be brilliant.
Edit: 1: Just edited the "Save TomTom.exe path" file to point the Tom Tom Navigator launcher to Garmin instead. This has worked to launch Garmin instead of Tom Tom but it still cuts out after a few minutes. I also have S2U2 running so I will add Garmin to the Exceptional Exe list on that and see if that helps.
Edit: 2: Still turned itself even after adding to S2U2 Exceptional Exe's!
Ross202 said:
Thanks for the prompt reply. I am currently using my old iMate JasJam (runs wm6.1) as the GPS chip on my HD2 died. It is - hopefully - being repaired as we speak. However, as I am off to the Czech Republic in a week for a holiday I may have to use it instead. Nothing worse than having to restart the phone every 5 min as you are walking around trying to see the sights.
Don't know what "pvDevice name" is or where to find it. Under Device settings in wm6.1 it says my model no is Herm100 and Platform is PocketPC using CRCs rom version r13.5 but I'm guessing that's not what you are referring to.
I will try just installing it and see what happens. Any further help would be greatly appreciated as this app would be brilliant.
Edit: 1: Just edited the "Save TomTom.exe path" file to point the Tom Tom Navigator launcher to Garmin instead. This has worked to launch Garmin instead of Tom Tom but it still cuts out after a few minutes. I also have S2U2 running so I will add Garmin to the Exceptional Exe list on that and see if that helps.
Edit: 2: Still turned itself even after adding to S2U2 Exceptional Exe's!
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Im really sorry. I just did a full test today and It seems even I can't get it working . The screen stays on but it loses focus after a while. I'll start working on it now!
When you say "cuts out after a few minutes" is that the display turning off? Or just Garmin losing focus?
Nothing to apologise for - just to have someone develop such an app and make it available for free is a privilege - wish I had the knowledge and skills to do it.
To answer your question, the screen turns off - I have to press the screen-on button at the side of the jasjam, then navigate to the Garmin program launch icon and press it. The program comes back up to where it left off so I guess it must still be running in the background. Of course, when I am on external power this is not a problem - it keeps running. OK in the car but not much good when walking around.
I have noticed that in System/Backlight settings the screen is set to turn off after 5min when on Battery Power so I have unchecked this option, ie screen shouldn't ever turn off. This seems to be working; however, when Garmin is turned off I then have to remember to reset the backlight-off timeout otherwise I'll quickly have a flat battery.
Nowhere near as elegant as your app promises to be.
Have had Garmin running for past 10 min while I have been typing/composing this reply and it hasn't dropped out ..... yet.
What do you mean by "losing focus"
Further to above, I have had Garmin running non-stop since the above post - 30 min - so unchecking the "turn off screen backlight" seems to have done the trick. Now I just have to go through the nausea of manually checking it again in he system properties.
Thanks for your assistance.
What do you mean by "losing focus"
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Its just like your desktop, when you are doing something in a window, be it typing, mouse clicking etc, you are focused to that window. But as soon as you click another window your focus changes to that window. So whats happening with this program is its focused on TomTom for around 30s but then it is losing focus to something in the background. Nothing visually happens on the screen, but as soon as I press a key it switches to the background.
It sounds like even the backlight doesn't stay on for you...
Hopefully I can figure this problem out by soon, when I do, ill post
For your info, I have two settings that seem to be relevant both related to Battery Power:
1. Settings>System>backlight>battery power> uncheck "turnoff backlight if device not used for ..."
2. Settings>System>power>advanced> on battery power> uncheck "turnoff device if device not used for ..."
When the Garmin first turned itself off I noted that "1" was checked and set to 5 minutes and "2" was checked and set to 2 minutes. 2 minutes seemed to be the time it took before the phone/screen turned itself off. Once I unchecked "1" the setting @ "2" was irrelevant.
Re loss of focus - no, the screen went blank. When I pressed the power on button for the screen the "today" screen came back up. I then pressed the program launcher>Garmin and Garmin resumed where it had left off.
Hope this helps. Regards Ross
Just a heads up.
You can just download a LightJacker from this address:
http://w1.ozone.mine.nu/default.asp?c=index_lj Looks like it does what people want and is easy to use.

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