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O2 Orbit issues with B&B v4.0 editor version

Hi, Ive just upgraded my Orbit from B&B 3.7 to B&B 4. Everything went well, ROM was running like a dream. After a while of tinkering and using it I noticed a few random issues:
1 - Power button: suddenly stops turning screen back on. Screen turns off OK, but will not turn on again. Soft-reset is needed to startup again.
2- Sound disappearing: sound randomly disappeared for no reason. Have removed HTCHome from today (due to known issue) and it wasnt that. I have nothing on today screen, no running programs, nothing loading at startup. All of a sudden after about 5 resets it came back on.
3 - Blue Rollr-ball and scroll wheel: did work when first flashed device, but now no longer respond, in any menu or window the blue light does not even come on (although does come on when first booted and when screen turned off).
4 - Battery life depleted? - seems to drain battery quicker than normal (although this may be due to me having to leave backlight on constantly as explained in point 1)
5 - Wifi : seems to only stay connected for approx 2minutes. Although it will stay connected if constantly being used (ie. if I browse page after page will work, but if I stop to read a page for minute or two I need to disconnect and re-connect)
Thats all I have noticed so far but will post any new issues.
This post is not to put Orbit user's off using B&B 4 or to disrespect Tom or his efforts at all. This is just my findings so far and hope Tom could read and add any thoughts, I do love B&B 4 its a wicked ROM and fully appreciate the work Tom has put inot building it many thanks, keep up the good work man.

fubofo said:
Hi, Ive just upgraded my Orbit from B&B 3.7 to B&B 4. Everything went well, ROM was running like a dream. After a while of tinkering and using it I noticed a few random issues:
1 - Power button: suddenly stops turning screen back on. Screen turns off OK, but will not turn on again. Soft-reset is needed to startup again.
2- Sound disappearing: sound randomly disappeared for no reason. Have removed HTCHome from today (due to known issue) and it wasnt that. I have nothing on today screen, no running programs, nothing loading at startup. All of a sudden after about 5 resets it came back on.
3 - Blue Rollr-ball and scroll wheel: did work when first flashed device, but now no longer respond, in any menu or window the blue light does not even come on (although does come on when first booted and when screen turned off).
4 - Battery life depleted? - seems to drain battery quicker than normal (although this may be due to me having to leave backlight on constantly as explained in point 1)
5 - Wifi : seems to only stay connected for approx 2minutes. Although it will stay connected if constantly being used (ie. if I browse page after page will work, but if I stop to read a page for minute or two I need to disconnect and re-connect)
Thats all I have noticed so far but will post any new issues.
This post is not to put Orbit user's off using B&B 4 or to disrespect Tom or his efforts at all. This is just my findings so far and hope Tom could read and add any thoughts, I do love B&B 4 its a wicked ROM and fully appreciate the work Tom has put inot building it many thanks, keep up the good work man.
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I understand u my friend.But u need read and my thead v4.0 B&B.I already fixed almost problem u said..!
Thanks again..!

One more thing I forgot to add:
6 - Red End call button: does not work at all, never has on B&B. I have to tap "end call" on screen. not a big issue, but I sometimes press the button and set the device down forgetting to hang up calls

tom_codon said:
I understand u my friend.But u need read and my thead v4.0 B&B.I already fixed almost problem u said..!
Thanks again..!
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My apologies Tom, I have been reading the B&B 4 post since u released the ROM, but havent found anyting. Ill go have another look LOL sorry

fubofo said:
One more thing I forgot to add:
6 - Red End call button: does not work at all, never has on B&B. I have to tap "end call" on screen. not a big issue, but I sometimes press the button and set the device down forgetting to hang up calls
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tested in v4.0 don't have same problem..!

LOL all on front page huh ? I just been reading from last post I last read

Ok the HTC fix is the only thing I can find there, not sure if it has fixed the sound thing yet I will let you know. The Red end call button works also, dont know why that wasnt working earlier. But the other issues remain:
Power button still wont turn screen back on after switched off or locked device using device lock.
Blue Rollr-ball and sroll wheel not working at all
Wifi not lasting very long ( although I think I read posts elsewhere about tht so not too worried )
Any thoughts on the hardware buttons anyone ?

Nope, sound gone again. Installed the HTChome fix (both weather and tab, then tab and weather) still no joy. It was working for a period, now its gone off again. Any time any sort of sound tries to come from the speaker I just recieve a high-pitched "ding" then no more sound until reset.

fubofo said:
Nope, sound gone again. Installed the HTChome fix (both weather and tab, then tab and weather) still no joy. It was working for a period, now its gone off again. Any time any sort of sound tries to come from the speaker I just recieve a high-pitched "ding" then no more sound until reset.
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Sad your having such a rough time but to make sure its not your device, have you reflashed an original ROM and checked your handset to make sure these problems have gone away. Also, how about reflashing the BB v4.0 ROM again and see if it improves, others prior have posted success after a reflash.
I'm happy these BB ROMs have worked flawlessly from first flash (except with known bugs).
Good luck to you on your journey.

Ok got the sound thing sorted myself. Turns out the sound will only work if I boot my Orbit up while plugged into my PC with Activesync running. Its not a USB thing, Ive tried with just my charger plugged in but no sound there. I also tried loading Activesync on my Orbit before touching anything else, still no sound.
The only way I can have working sound on my Orbit is if I boot up while plugged into my PC with Activesync running ??

bex said:
Sad your having such a rough time but to make sure its not your device, have you reflashed an original ROM and checked your handset to make sure these problems have gone away. Also, how about reflashing the BB v4.0 ROM again and see if it improves, others prior have posted success after a reflash.
I'm happy these BB ROMs have worked flawlessly from first flash (except with known bugs).
Good luck to you on your journey.
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LOL thanks chum. Im the kind that likes to sit and figure out whats going wrong. Im trying to figure it out n leave posts here incase others have issues and maybe find a fix. Also I just cant be bothered to reflash as it takes too long to reinstall all my apps

WM6 goes back to Today's screen when device turns off

Not sure if this is a design function but everytime I turn the device off it returns to Today's screen.
Actually even when I toggle to screen in WMP and turn the screen back on the PPC throws me back to Today.
I initially thought it was a problem with my ROM (LSG then Custel 1.3) but after flashing to VP3G 3.0 on my 8525 (I have both an 8525 and TyTN) and without anything else installed it does that.
Any ideas if this can be changed? I'd like to open app to stay visible.
Thanks in advance for the help.

I really don't have this problem on my ROM, see signature. I have especially tested it for you to be sure.....
Perhaps flashing 1 device to a different ROM. Can you see it yourself.

that's what i figured so I had my 8525 that was running WM5.
I HardSPL, SuperCID it then flashed it with VP3G.
There is nothing else on the phone but my exchange and pop account setup, owner info and basic stuff like this.
I also have the clock shown on every apps and the extended rom unlock/mounted (though it does it with or w/o).
My TyTN is running Custel 1.3.
I just can't think what could be causing the device to always minimize open apps when the phone is turned off (standby).

It seems that some plugins force a redraw of the today screen when coming out of stb. Nothing much to do but turn off the offending plugin.

Go to settings/today and on tab for objects remove the flag for timeout. Problem gone.

Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.

HunterST said:
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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This is a really annoying "feature" of WM6. So far no answer in the Microsoft forums regarding this. Would be glad if i could return to exactly the screen where i switched off the device or in which the timeout forced it to suspend.
If it is not possible to fix this with a registry hacking, would it be possible to develop a small helper application which saves which application was open before the atual suspend takes place and upon a wakeup reads this information and switches to the last active window ? The app itself is still active, isn't it ?
Regards,
Secuspec

Wait. So what exactly happens? I also used vp3G 3.0 and let's say I have Resco File Explorer open and my phone sits idle for 1 minute and goes into standby mode.. when I press the power button to make the screen turn on again, it still shows Resco File Explorer for me.. Is the bug causing it to go back to the today screen every time the phone goes into standby mode?

if a program is left open when the device is turned off (or screen "muted") the program will be minimized when you turn the Pocket PC back on (you're kicked back to Today).
Glad I'm not the only once having issues. Thought it may be a design (flaw) but IMO it's a crappy one. Wish someone can find a fix.

interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.

samw52000 said:
interesting, it looks like if you remove the device password it doesn't minimize the apps. kinda weird IMO.
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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike

ericc - that's exactly the problem. Are you sure you're really going to "sleep", and you aren't just seeing your backlight turn off? (you should have to hit the power button to wake it back up).
Especially annoying when driving with navigation software - I want to just turn it on and see what I saw before it went to sleep.
MikeC - that's a very interesting point. I have exchange push email going, and my system administrator pushes restrictions onto my phone... I use Zenyee Stayunlock to allow me to change the ridiculous 5-minute lockout to something more reasonable.... perhaps either the device lock or Zenyee is the culprit.

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Isn't that what you would expect if you have a device password set!?
Mike
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Actually not really... my Windows workstation locks I expect to see the program I had maximized still on screen not all down in the toolbar minimized. IMO that doesn't make much sense (and even if it did they should have an option to select the default behaviour).

HunterST said:
Nice try, no prize - problem not gone.
This appears to be a WM6 "feature".
This discussion exists in another xda thread here, and in a Microsoft forum here.
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Works fine on my Tytn with WM6 official Swedish. I don't have a device lock enabled btw.

yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.

samw52000 said:
yes if the lock is turned off the programs will stay open and full screen on resume/screen toggle.
Problem seems to only take place when the device lock is enabled, no matter how long the lock period.
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Thanks for the hint samw52000! That perfectly worked for me And it also sped up a lot of programs directly after wake up -what makes perfectly sense since no other program is interfering anymore.

Long time after last reply, but still no solution.
I notice if time in suspend mode is longer that programmed in settings/Lock/Prompt if device unused for... (if you have to tap your password) then screen is same as before suspend.

Backlight Settings Not Being Saved on Tilt 2 Phone

Is anyone else having problems with the backlight settings not being saved on the Tilt 2? I set my phone to have the backlight remain on for 1 minute, not 10 seconds as is the default setting. Every time that I soft reset the phone, however, it reverts back to the 10-second setting. How come my settings are not staying saved?

DD7374 said:
Is anyone else having problems with the backlight settings not being saved on the Tilt 2? I set my phone to have the backlight remain on for 1 minute, not 10 seconds as is the default setting. Every time that I soft reset the phone, however, it reverts back to the 10-second setting. How come my settings are not staying saved?
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Try making the changes, and then shutting the phone down by holding the power button, and then restart the phone, and see if that works for you.

Backlight Issue on Tilt 2
SacTilt said:
Try making the changes, and then shutting the phone down by holding the power button, and then restart the phone, and see if that works for you.
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Thanks for the reply. Shutting down the phone is what is causing the backlight setting not to be saved and to revert back to the 10-second setting. I did try it again, though, as you suggested; but I got the same problem... It's a minor issue, but it's still frustrating. Thanks again for your response, though.

I have the same problem and i dont know what's causing it.

If you have added programs to your phone, that possibly could be the cause of the problem. I experienced it after adding a program.
You will have to remove your added programs, one by one, to see which one is the offender.

prubin said:
If you have added programs to your phone, that possibly could be the cause of the problem. I experienced it after adding a program.
You will have to remove your added programs, one by one, to see which one is the offender.
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Thanks for the reply. I've just gotten the phone, so I haven't really installed any programs yet. The only one that I've installed is the "Marketplace" program that comes with the phone. I doubt that this is what's causing the problem. Thanks, though. Do you have any other thoughts? I've jus rebooted the phone again, and once more the backlight setting has reverted back to the 10-seconds setting. It's annoying! AT&T suggests that I hard-reset the phone to fix any potential bugs in the software. I'm not keen on doing this, however...

i had this problem with the new windows mobile 6.5 lockscreen and an older windows mobile 6.5 rom.
upgrading to a newer rom fixed this for me.
alternative: don't use the new lock screen.

Backlight Dimming Issue on Tilt 2
I just came across a fix (called TiltBacklightFix - see the link below to that page) for the Tilt (1) phone - I guess the same issue was found in those phones. I downloaded the cab to my phone, hoping that it might work on the Tilt 2 also.
Here are the results: After powering down and back on again, the diplay indicates that the backlight setting has reverted back to the 10-second setting - at least that's what the phone shows when going into the power settings. In actuality, though, control over the backlight appears to be disabled altogether. The backlight doesn't dim at all - the phone simply shuts off (power-saving mode) after however long that setting is set for.
You could, however, then go into the settings and change the backlight time to what you want. It saves it - until, of course, the phone is powered down and back up again. So I guess what I'm saying is that I'm back at square one.
Anyone have any other thoughts? Has anyone heard of a TiltBacklightFix cab created for Tilt 2 devices?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4879524#post4879524

I recognize that this is an old thread, but I recently acquired a Tilt 2, and have this exact issue. I couldn't find a solution until a kind soul mentioned to me that some older devices (such as the Tilt) had the same problem. Then, I found this this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1736898&postcount=5
After applying the fix there, my backlight issue *seems* to be solved! Hopefully it stays that way . . .

Am I the only one who has touch-screen problems with the vogue on/off? Seriously..

I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..

mine is unresponsive sometimes and i have to tap on the back of the phone to get to work again. i thinks its going out soon

That's what I thought about my old one, I figured I had dropped it to much.. because I did lol but now I got a new one 2 weeks old and I'm running into the SAME problems.. I'm assuming I must be doing something wrong with how I've got **** set-up

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I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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j18yo i think that your problem might be that to many programs run when you start your vogue that happened to me before and i hated it but then i heard of a program named "Space Reclaimer" FREE and it made my vogue much more responsive because the program stops any programs that start when you turn on your vogue or any windows mobile phone

I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.

j18yo said:
I had one before, dropped it a few times.. I wrote it off as that being why, well I just got a replacement one sent.. haven't dropped it once, it's been here only about 2 weeks
Randomly sometimes it won't respond to almost anything.. I'll be trying to slide the screen, it either won't at all or will go halfway like I barely touched it. I'll try clicking on things, programs, start, whatever... it'll not respond at all, I end up having to press with way more pressure than I should have to, way more.
Then sometimes without even a reset it'll start working just about normally again.. but that's rarely, usually I'll soft reset or pull the battery for a second and then it'll be fine.. for days even.. then I'll run into it again..
I noticed 2-3 times it was because I had **** updating at the time (motweets) or was receiving email.. but I've since made everything manual regarding email, and motweets updates once every 15 minutes and the amount of tweets is limited so it's not a lot..
Still, I run into this problem, and I've made sure it wasn't a program updating but I can't think of what else would make this happen, am I the only one??
Is it because there's a way to clear cache on internets and other programs and I have no idea how? (I fully close them, that's not the problem, I know my Vogue I just can't figure this out an it seems nobody else has this problem).. Not to mention I have my internet cache's directed to my storage card so as to keep my phone memory as free'd up as possible
If anyone can help..
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What ROM are you running? I asume that wehn your new device came you loaded it the same as the old one. It has to be something with the ROM you are runnning or a problem with a program causing your issue.

My phone would do this periodically too, with Vin's latest ROMs. I turned off Manila and am running Titanium now. Interestingly - no lags when unlocking since. I'll keep Titanium on for some time to see if that makes it go away. I had an issue with both his current v2 and v4 (which I am running now).

Ive had to replace my screen twice and the whole phone once because of touch screen problems. Thank God for the insurance.

Ah yes... to what OP mentioned:
I do not beleive it is a more pressure thing. I do not think it is more pressure that is required but rather that the phone is non responsive. If you are unlocking and typing a PIN, it takes the PIN and all but it takes perhaps one digit every 5 seconds. That's my experience anyway. So it is just slower, as if something was consuming the CPU and UI is not responsive.

crazylegs91 said:
I have the same problem usually under the same conditions. Mostly happens in the morning after the device has been off. Works fine for a few seconds then stops responding correctly i.e., the D-Pad stops scrolling correctly with a lag on touch response. I use CleanRAM and it still doesn't fix the prob once it occurs. Sometimes when I run CleanRAM it will occur. I've tried putting biotouch.exe and everyting BUT the kernel processes in the exceptions list and a Level 1 clean. Hard reset yesterday and haven't had the problem yet. If it continues to work, I'll post my settings.
BTW, I'm on a stock 6.1 ROM with a few apps.
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THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans

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THIS..
It has to be the problem.. I have CleanRAM run every 12 hours or 6 hours because I figured it would help.. lol but now your saying sometimes it happens WHEN you run cleanRAM.. Im assuming it does something, or erases something it shouldnt?
This is like the 1 sole thing I have run on a schedule, I've turned off my email and everything to manual, I went into my startup folder and there was about 4-5 things I didn't need which made the battery 100% better than it was in terms of how long it lasts.. and I set-up this CleanRAM schedule on my last phone I THINK I forgot but I do know as soon as I got this 1 going I did it and I'm bout to delete the program completely and see if it'll help, I have speedbooster too which does a cleanup too I'm curious if it would have the same result..
I'll let everyone know if this ended up being my problem incase anyones in the exact same boat with the same apps
PS: I was doing level 3 cleans
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Update: I don't think CR erases things as much as it kills processes that won't restart. Thru trial and error, I've adjusted my CleanRAM settings to where I haven't had the problem for a couple of days. I'm able to do a Level 3 cleans on a once a night schedule and during the day if need be. In settings, I have it to close all apps, launch startup progs, and display today screen. I have no exceptions listed for either running progs or startup progs. I have the most up to date version from the OTA update in the program.
The program links in my StartUp folder are: poutlook (original on ROM), sddaemon (original on ROM), WLMUpdate (original on ROM), Glossybars.exe (I added this), biotouch.exe (I added as I thought CR killing this was the source of the problem), pocketwit.exe (I added), and SIPChange (I added).
One thing I did do was delete the link for TouchPal from the Startup folder. I did this for other reasons (I use FingerKeyBoard). Not sure if this was part of the problem.
I can scroll with d-pad and no touch lag.
On a side note, can I delete any of poutlook, sddaemon, or WLMUpdate from the startup folder to save battery power?
I'm probably just a bit above a newb so sorry if I don't make sense.
Update: Just for kicks, I deleted the links for glossybars.exe and pocketwit.exe from my StartUp and it started locking again after running CleanRAM. I put them back in and it works again even after running CleanRAM. Maybe someone with more knowledge can explain this. I'm just keeping it the way it is now...

Hmm weird that you removed something not very important like pocketwit an cleanram caused problems again.. someone has to have some info on this??
I deleted everything from my StartUp folder but my SPB Mobile Shell.. I didn't have sddaemon, but I did have poutlook and WLMUpdate both of which I deleted.. then I had some other programs that aren't necessary for the phone.. I have no problems on restart or anything, and the % showed being used is stays around the 30's now instead of 40s/50s.. and when I run programs it usually reachs 50% tops now instead of 60/70% I used to get.
PS: Pocketwit isnt bad I used to praise the program but now I've tried MoTweets and.. I can't think of the other one now.. ****.. it's really good though but it seems to use a lot more phone power than MoTweets so I went back to that.
Pocketwit kept giving me problems, started saying I need to install that NET 3.5 or whatever but when I try to it says I have a later version already so it won't install, then other times it'll work completely fine.. but MoTweets I like better anyways

Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.

crazylegs91 said:
Ok, I give up. I restored everything to the way I had it when it was working and now I'm having problems again. After the screen turns off and I turn it back on, it locks up and won't scroll and has the touch lag issue.
Hope someone figures this out. Shouldn't have messed with success. Good luck.
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Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...

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Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm running a stock Sprint 6.1 ROM. Thanks though.

bigboy292000 said:
Are you running TouchFLO?
As mentioned before -for me, turning off TouchFLO (and running Titanium) fixed this 100%...
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I'm not using the TouchFLO interface, does that mean its still on though?
I'm not completely up on understanding all this

This was happening with Vin's Rom for me as well. I was tripping out pressing ON so many times with no screen showing up but phone light on! I believe it could be the power settings. I disabled the "Turn off device" which I believe was mentioned in his notes about the rom.

I gave up on this problem for a while but found something when researching how to disable to cube. I used the registry edit in this thread to disable to cube post #69. I didn't do any of the other steps because I'm not having memory probs (42% with pocketwit in the bckgrd).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368269&page=7
I noticed that biotouch.exe never shows up in the running processes menu in CleanRAM and I don't have the "lock/freeze" scrolling problem any longer and I can run CleanRam without the problem occurring. I can press any item on the screen as well with no delayed response.
However, this stops you from being able to finger scroll and do the "side to side" scroll in Messaging. I never really finger scrolled and prefer using the d-pad for scrolling so losing that functionality isn't a big deal to me.
If anyone can figure out how to keep this working so smooth and have the option to finger scroll, I'd be much obliged. It just seems that biotouch.exe craps out sometimes and locks up the d-pad. If they could both work equally well....

Touch pro 2 screen not powering off

Hi folks, having a slight issue with my TP2. It is running the preinstalled vodafone rom for the UK. (version 1.14.161.6 (50207) WWE)
Over the last two days it has stopped automatically powering down the screen when not being used. The backlight switches off as normal, but the screen does not shut down until i press the power button. So if I forget, the screen can stay on all night, killing the battery.
Have been into the settings,on the power screen, and checked all 4 boxes are checked for the times to shut off the backlight and screen on both battery and mains power, and they are.
Any ideas? I have not installed any new software so am stumped. Any common causes of this behaviour?
Cheers
Jon

did you change it through the manila settings tab or start/settings/system/power/backlight ? the reason why i ask is because sometimes when you set settings through manila tab settings, the settings dont work. try deactivating manila, then start/settings/system/power/backlight , then reactivate manila. hope that helps. if not im stumped too.

Is manila part of touchflo? If so I don't have it enabled, I just use spb shell on top of winmo 6.1, so yes was using start/settings/power method.
However, not sure if I have hit upon the problem - I use a program called g-alarm (which is one of the best programs ever), and in it's settings there is a way to keep the screen on when the alarm is snoozed. I recently enabled this, and wonder if it might have messed up the os settings somehow.
I tried uninstalling g-alarm last night and it made no difference, but since restoring a backup, and changing the screen-on setting within g-alarm to off the phone is working normally.
I daren't re-enable the setting to test it, just in case the phone gets messed up again for good this time so this might be a total red herring, and perhaps it was just the restore that did the trick (although have restoring before at least 3 or 4 times with no joy). Will report back when I dare to mess again.

cool to here you are back to normal lol. it would have been a major hassle if you had alot of apps, accounts and whatnot to reinstall. i got really pissed at g-alarm one time when it wouldnt stop going off (phantom alarm) so i will never use it again. you might want to find the thread from where you got it and report the bug. maybe someone else has the same problem and the developer came out with a patch or upgrade for it.

Had same problem on 2 phones
I had same problem on 2 phones- Tilt2 and Kaiser (Tilt). Problem was.... Microsoft Live. When mail account set to ..As Arrived... phone doesn't go to sleep and keeps screen on permanently. Battery was empty in half of the day. After I switched to use POP or IMAP mail and stopped using Live, everything became normal and works excellent.

Here is the Answer
Maybe you have played some games and did not close it by the normal way..
Try to change the registry:
自动关屏时间
HKCU\ControlPanel\BackLight\
"BatteryTimeOut" = 10
Then
另一种方法是在HKCU\ControlPanel\Power\
Display=25 改成自己想要的值
If there is not one,create it by yourself..

Well, it still happened today, so I think that rules out the g-alarm backlight setting. However, it worked fine most of the time, so intermittent.
Papasha, I think you could be onto something there, I do use MS live. Be a shame to lose the push mail though, but that's the next thing i'll try disabling if it recurs again.
Will try that too fishman if problem comes back, the backlight key is present but the display setting is not. Easily created though.

*post Updated on 28-1-10*.
The problem did start recurring again, so I tried the suggestion to disable the hotmail pushmail (sync items as they arrive) and that has definitely sorted the problem. As a very welcome side effect the phone suffers major slow downs far less now, if at all. I still use livemail but just set it to sync every 60 mins.