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The subject was just to make you laugh, there is no Pron in this story.
For the short version minus the story, skip down to the 2nd paragraph, otherwise read below.
Well I have been running my Hermes for over a year, have flashed it dozens of times, about 10 Roms ago, I ran across one that caused a hard reset, so I quickly dumped it and moved on. I went back to flashing like normal. Then running M2D I got a hard reset that was so bad, it froze the machine and could not even boot. I gave up on the M2D based Roms and went back to old and trusty CRC's stuff. Yesterday again when I really needed my phone to work perfect, on a car club drive, 100 miles from home with people calling me to arrange times they are meeting me and to ask exactly where our group was in the run, my phone locked up. I was able to get it to load back up long enough to quickly hit the call forward to my wifes phone who was along with me. I had her fiddle with it, and reset it. Right back to fresh install of CRC 14.1 On a good note, I found that when needing too, I can install TomTom and even configure my Bluetooth GPS with one hand while driving at 90mph on a backroad chasing other car guys.
Ok during my random flashing of Roms over the last year or so, I have never once flashed it back to stock. I installed Hard SPL, upgraded the radio to 1.54 and never looked back.
Could someone give me a quick brush up on Re-Flashing back to an OEM rom, what is the "Proper" rom that I should be using. Will the OEM rom screw with my radio. Why is this even necessary?
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The subject was just to make you laugh, there is no Pron in this story.
For the short version minus the story, skip down to the 2nd paragraph, otherwise read below.
Well I have been running my Hermes for over a year, have flashed it dozens of times, about 10 Roms ago, I ran across one that caused a hard reset, so I quickly dumped it and moved on. I went back to flashing like normal. Then running M2D I got a hard reset that was so bad, it froze the machine and could not even boot. I gave up on the M2D based Roms and went back to old and trusty CRC's stuff. Yesterday again when I really needed my phone to work perfect, on a car club drive, 100 miles from home with people calling me to arrange times they are meeting me and to ask exactly where our group was in the run, my phone locked up. I was able to get it to load back up long enough to quickly hit the call forward to my wifes phone who was along with me. I had her fiddle with it, and reset it. Right back to fresh install of CRC 14.1 On a good note, I found that when needing too, I can install TomTom and even configure my Bluetooth GPS with one hand while driving at 90mph on a backroad chasing other car guys.
Ok during my random flashing of Roms over the last year or so, I have never once flashed it back to stock. I installed Hard SPL, upgraded the radio to 1.54 and never looked back.
Could someone give me a quick brush up on Re-Flashing back to an OEM rom, what is the "Proper" rom that I should be using. Will the OEM rom screw with my radio. Why is this even necessary?
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You can use any OEM rom, theres a stripped one in my 4shared, this means it wont flash over your radio, so its safer.
And this is necessary because of the way BS roms are made, they mess with the internal memmory structure (combinging the ext rom and the main storage), flashing a OEM is like a spring clean
Everything is working nice for me now, except for missing ÆØÅ, but I guess Ill get used to it.
The os is a bit slow, but meh.
So my I have found answers to my questions, but below are the original ones.
New questions:
Hello again!
Thanks for the information. Big thanks to this wonderful forum, because I can run Android on my phone!
But as I have tested it I have some questions:
1. The wifi is really slow. It feels like I am using Internet through the SIM card, but I am indeed not. (I took out the SIM card to test). And there isn't any problem with our Internet, because it is fast and good on everything else.
Downloaded some older files and the WiFi is working much better now!
2. I got some problems with vertical lines, but after readings some FAQs I found out about a setting. It has worked overnight, but is it permanent?
This problem is solved, haven't experienced any vertical lines after boot fix.
3. I'm not sure if GPS is working, because it take ages to start. Just says loading... loading... etc.
GPS is working, but slow.
4. Since I am from Norway it seems like I have custom physical keyboard. (with ÆØÅ) And because of that all the FN keys are messed up, well except for numbers.But as I read somewhere the default mapping for Tytn II should be FN + Q = @
And that is how my keyboard look now. But it should be FN + Q = ? according to the text on the keyboard and how it worked in WM.
And is there any way to do the same for the Android keyboard?
Anything I can edit without too much hazzle to fix this? Cause its a pain to write texts without the Norwegian letters.
I found a custom kernel and it is working nice (I have asked for a custom build of it so I can have ÆØÅ too, but mapping is good)
Besides that I am SO happy with it! I just love the menus and how its so easy to touch compared to WM.
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Okey, first of all.. this is probably a newbie question and I might have found my answer if I searched for a while.
But as both you and me know, it would've taken me much more time to search and read a bunch of threads than it would be to just simply ask the question.
I am a newbie at the whole ROM and radio business on phones. To be honest I just found out yesterday that it was even possible.
As you might have guessed I want to run Android on my phone. Im going to run it from the microSD card etc.
Well there werent really any problems to download the Android files together with Haret and then put them on the sd card. (If I wasnt able to do that I wouldnt bother.)
The problem is that when trying to run Android from within WM (6.1) it just freezes at full bar with the text "Go Go Go". The whole phone is just frozen and I have to restart it.
Well as I read on the troublehooting guide on "androidonhtc.com" I have to update my radio which then leads me to this website.
Fine so far. The problem is that I do not really want to mess with the phone itself. First I want to know how I can "backup" the radio so if I mess up something while flashing I can easily go back.
Second of all Im not really sure which radio which works with which rom.
I am running the original rom which came with the phone and I do not really want to mess up anything.
Here are the infos I got from the phone:
Rom version: 3.29.409.0 NOR (Yeah, Im from Norway)
Rom date: 05/05/08
Radio version: 1.65.16.25
Protocol version: 25.83.40.02H
The phone is HTC Tytn II running Windows Mobile 6.1
The guide on androidonhtc said that I needed "1.65.24.xx or 1.71.xx.xx"
Can I then use a 1.71.xx even though I have a 1.65.16.25 now?
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I want to know which radio I can use for the phone with the specs above.
The recommended radio for most android builds is 1.71.xx, however it will still run on older radios, but may experience some audio, wifi, bt, gps, and possibly other issues.
If you intend to run from SD card, then this may not be much more than an annoyance, since you can reboot to Winmo at any time, and as a newcomer to android this would have been my advice anyway.
To upgrade the radio is a simple step usually, provided your device is prepared properly.
A prepared device means that is ready and able to be flashed, and this requires HardSPL, ( basically an unlocked bootloader that allows you to flash roms/radios/ splash screens etc).
I recommend reading through the guides and tutorials sticky in the 'main' rom forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=533976
This should give you an understanding of what might be involved in starting to flash your device, and should answer many of your questions about radios, flashing, unlocking, roms and other things you may need to know about before proceeding.
Good luck, and remember, I was once as new as you, and that thread was where I learned all I know about my devices
So if I update to 1.71.09.01 while still using the original ROM, I wont get any big problems?
Or do I have to upgrade the ROM too?
You see.. this stuff is confusing to me. I consider myself a PC geek, but I suck at phones.
The instructions are pretty easy to follow, but its not so easy to know if I'm able to revert the stuff I'm doing.
I want to do as little "damage" to the phone as possible.
Is it necessary to backup the radio which is on the phone now, or do I have to find another radio from here and flash it on?
And one last question. Is there any difference between the original radio on the phone and the radios I'm downloading from here?
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So if I update to 1.71.09.01 while still using the original ROM, I wont get any big problems?
Or do I have to upgrade the ROM too?
You see.. this stuff is confusing to me. I consider myself a PC geek, but I suck at phones.
The instructions are pretty easy to follow, but its not so easy to know if I'm able to revert the stuff I'm doing.
I want to do as little "damage" to the phone as possible.
Is it necessary to backup the radio which is on the phone now, or do I have to find another radio from here and flash it on?
And one last question. Is there any difference between the original radio on the phone and the radios I'm downloading from here?
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You don't need to upgrade the ROM. All you need to do is install hardSPL, then install the radio. If you install hardSPL properly, your phone will be almost impossible to brick. It's really the first thing any person should do to their phone when beginning to do modifications. You can't "back up" your radio, but all available radio versions, including the one you currently have, are available HERE. So if you ever want to go back to your original radio, it will always be there. I honestly don't know the difference between the radios, I just know that certain versions are recommended depending on what ROM you are using, for the best signal and least bugs with wifi and bluetooth, as zenity previously mentioned. Hope this helps you some, good luck!
Thanks, thats what I wanted to hear.
The reason why I want to try out other mobile OS and ROMs is that I hate how the menus are so frigging tiny on the WM 6.1
If I'm trying to do stuff fast I always click the wrong button.. And yeah I have lost my stylus.
Anyway, thanks for all the help. After getting some answers and reading some threads I feel ready to update the radio.
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And one last question. Is there any difference between the original radio on the phone and the radios I'm downloading from here?
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Basically the higher the radio version number, the newer the radio software, as our devices aged, HTC brought out a number of software updates.
Our network carriers usually have custom ROM's which have a 'matched' radio for best operation, however even these 'matched' radios had small bugs, which were patched by releasing newer radio versions, of which 1.71.xx was the lastest and last official HTC radio for the Kaiser series.
There are also radios from other devices which work with our kaisers, but these are not recommended unless you have a particular need for one of those.
As far as the ability to 'undo' any modifications you make is concerned, it can all be reversed and your device put back the way it was relatively easily, instructions for this are best found on the wiki pages for the kaiser, along with a load of other information about radios, roms, flashing etc.
But unless the reason for not messing with your kaiser is in case you have warranty concerns, then pretty much everything is 'safe' to do, ( there is ALWAYS a risk of a bad flash, or unforseen power cut, but even these are recoverable in all but the most extreme circumstances).
Finally, take everything one step at a time, don't be tempted to rush in and try everything at once, you will make mistakes, you will also learn how to fix them.
As with everything else, remember to backup anything you really cannot afford to lose, get a 128Mb SD card with an HTC ROM on it, and don't panic
Hello again!
Thanks for the information. Big thanks to this wonderful forum, because I can run Android on my phone!
But as I have tested it I have some questions:
1. The wifi is really slow. It feels like I am using Internet through the SIM card, but I am indeed not. (I took out the SIM card to test). And there isn't any problem with our Internet, because it is fast and good on everything else.
2. I got some problems with vertical lines, but after readings some FAQs I found out about a setting. It has worked overnight, but is it permanent?
3. I'm not sure if GPS is working, because it take ages to start. Just says loading... loading... etc.
4. Since I am from Norway it seems like I have custom physical keyboard. (with ÆØÅ) And because of that all the FN keys are messed up, well except for numbers.But as I read somewhere the default mapping for Tytn II should be FN + Q = @
And that is how my keyboard look now. But it should be FN + Q = ? according to the text on the keyboard and how it worked in WM.
And is there any way to do the same for the Android keyboard?
Anything I can edit without too much hazzle to fix this? Cause its a pain to write texts without the Norwegian letters.
Besides that I am SO happy with it! I just love the menus and how its so easy to touch compared to WM.
I'm having the exact reverse, m FN + Q is ?.
If i remember, fn+q='?' means you are using a tilt keymap on a non tilt keyboard, if you are running from nand, try a non-tilt nbh, if you are running from SD theres a setting in default.txt. ( board-kaiser-keypad.atttilt=1 ) if it's set to 1 change it to 0
No, on the nbh i'm using, the tilt keypad layout is set to 0. But I'm back on ext2 now so it isnt a problem anymore.
I'd like to ask those wishing help with troubleshooting to please help us to help you.
When reporting a problem it is useful to get as much information as possible, the more information we have, the easier it is to help.
Is it running from SD or Nand.
What radio version.
What build are you having the problem with.
What kernel/nbh are you using.
If you can, try to post any error messages.
Please try to post your questions in the thread for the build you are having issues with, it's more likely to get noticed there, and other users of that build may have the solution you need.
All this information saves a lot of time, and helps cut down on confusion, especially the SD/Nand part.
I have trouble with signal, it's weak than WM, when I used WM my radio is 1.65, I'm up to 1.71.09.01 and flash Android (NAND menthod) and the signal so weak
So Android support radio 1.65??? I want to back 1.65
I'm using TYTN 2 Kaiser _ WarmDonut version
Another Qs:
Q.How can I use my fone like a modem? I see in Menu have Modem but I don't know how to connect with my PC as a modem
Q.How can I connect to my PC via Wifi ad-hoc? (if available, please guide step by step- because I'm... chicken )
Q.GPS so slow and weak (in Vietnam)
Q.It so hard to power off (It's hang)
Best regard
I had issues with 1.71.xx radios too, and went back to 1.65.21.14 and my signal was good once more.
To change radio, download the radio you wish to use from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393182, post 3 has the download links you need.
Once you have it downloaded, rename the ruu_signed.nbh to kaisimg.nbh and copy to SD card, flash using the power+camera method you used to flash the nand nbh, you will not have to reinstall Android when you do this.
The modem in question refers to the gprs modem used for data, it should be possible to use the phone as a modem, but as far as I know this is not working properly yet.
Not sure if you can do this either, I know wifi works for data transmission, but accessing the computer this way with android may not be possible, yet.
Gps problems may depend on which nbh you have installed, some of the more recent nbh's perform better than older ones. I'd recommend Kallt_Kaffes NBH's as I know these are quite good for gps, for me at least. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=660158, you will need to load the nbh into the editor and set the correct panel type, keyboard, and 3d type, ( donut in your case), then save as kaisimg.nbh and copy to SD and flash using power+camera, again this will not affect your android install.
Power off issues may be nbh related also, however this can still happen anyway, usually pulling out the battery will sort out the reboot issues.
many thank for quick reply, I love Android on my phone
thank you again
I was wondering what steps to take when the android loader gets stuck in a loop, when I install andriod right after install it boots fine but when I try to boot second time, after andriod appears on the bottom of the screen it will go into some kind of loop. I have tried different radios and a different version of hardspl, and a few nbh panels as well as reinstalling the system, any help would greatly appreciated.
Phone: AT&T Branded TILT
OS: Nand w/Incubus Super Froyo Installed
Radio: 1.70.18.02
NBH: kaisimg-panel2-320-tilt-froyo-07-07-10
HardSPL: v3.34.hard
Everything looks fine, although I haven't used that particular build, however bootloops are commonly build or kernel related.
Have you tried other builds? Or is it just this build that does this?
Generally panel type only affects the display on the screen itself, or sometimes problems with sleep mode.
Since you have a froyo kernel installed, maybe you could install this build to see if it helps? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724821
Yeah I have tried other Froyo builds and they worked, but I just like the way Super Froyo build is put together. But if it is the build then its is the build. Oh well maybe next release. Ok thank you for your time, guess I will give the GZO build or the one you suggested a try.
Installed the kernel you suggested, it works. It boot looped once, then I cleared the dalvik cache and it booted again after install. I don't know if that is what it is used for, but it worked after that.
It is a awesome build, battery life works correctly, signal is good with radio, and wi-fi works good. But I had one more questions.
1. What is up with live wallpapers, on some builds I have used some work on one build but not the other, I have looked through the forums, but can find no solution for this. Is it because of the amount of RAM in the TILT as I saw somewhere or is there a fix. Even in this build when I try to load a live wallpaper on a couple of them is just stays on wallpaper loading and stay black screen.
I would like to take a minute to thank the people that make this awesome stuff, now my TILT has more current software than my BACKFLIP, so my older phone is now newer than my new phone, and I would also like to thank the people who help others out on this forum, I don't think a lot of people like myself would get anywhere without your help.
Forgot to mention dalvik cache. oops, ah well, you found it anyway
It's another of those occasionally useful things, like fix permissions, I have used it before to fix unusual behaviour, but not tried it on a bootloop.
Live wallpapers are usually pretty buggy at best, it's complicated, memory is one problem, cpu speed another, and 3d handling yet another, some wallpapers work ok, but slow, others just won't, ever. I just delete them before install, along with a few other minor customisations such as deleting a few ringtones and notification sounds, changing boot animations, nothing that affects the core of the build, just personalising a bit
I'm using:
1)incubus's Super Eclair 6.1, with the downgraded settings.apk which enables wifi (another member offered the settings.apk from a previous version (3, I think) as an androidupdate.tar)
2) Currently radio 1.71.09.01 (thinking of switching to 1.65.21.18 to improve reception)
3.) Currently using the latest Dzo kernel for eclair (07-02-2010, I think)
My problem is that my data connection doesn't work (and this has been an issue on just about every release, save for one Froyo install where the data autostarted once, and then I never saw a 2g/3g notification and mobile internet didn't work).
I'm currently in India, and I've used the correct APN settings (they have worked on other phones including Nokias, iPhone, and a USB modem). I've tried asking the question in the SuperEclair vogue thread, but alas, no love. I'd really appreciate if you could help me on this, or at least guide me in the right direction, because android (especially eclair) is too awesome to abandon for this single issue.
By the way, everything else works, Wifi (with the mentioned update), GPS, Voice, and SuperEclair is the fastest that I've found so far.
I have seen a number of issues with data such as this, and i'm afraid none have had a truly satisfying resolution.
However I would try:
Downgrade the radio as planned, this may help, and certainly won't hurt.
Boot to installer, and run fix permissions and clear dalvik cache, this has been known to fix various issues, not certain why yet.
Double check the apn settings, especially the MCC and MCN settings, a lot of online guides seem to miss these two, but they are important.
Not sure where to point you after this, apart from a long trawl through the thread here, however if you do get it resolved please post back, and if not, try another post on it in the build thread, along with the steps you have taken to resolve it, it may convince someone to have a closer look at this issue.
data connection
I too have had this problem after installing a recent froyo build to nand....I had checked no.start data when flashing dzo's latest kernel using nbh editor and had to reset my apn settings. Remember to open your modem utility and press connect twice....this actually starts the connection......Radio type could also be an issue..Ive had good luck with the 165's with 2 different froyo builds....Hope this helps.....
Thanks for the replies! I'm going to try this out (need to recharge the data service on my prepaid) but one thing I did notice was that the MNC/MMC were different that those listed on my providers website. Hopefully this will help.
I have tried to switch on the data using the modem utility, and the utility itself says that data is connected, but it never really worked. In settings, there is an on/off switch for mobile internet, and a mobile internet settings. When I click the on/off switch, then mobile internet just goes gray and does nothing. I'll try to post back to the Super Eclair vogue board, but I think that Incubus might have moved on...
I'll update once I get my gprs service paid up. Again, thanks for the help!
The process com.android.phone has stopped
Those are my first Android experiences, so I`ve got problems .
Phone : Kaiser (TyTN II)
OS : Win Mo 6 Profess (original-not flashed)
Radio : 1.27.15.32
I`m trying to install Android on the SD card, without additional partitioning. I`m currently trying this Android version : Eclair 2.1 for Kaiser/Vogue/Polaris -- polymod 2.1 gamma [Based on OpenEclair 1.2.2 (XDA thread)]
and using this too : How to run Polymod’s AWESOME 2.1 Eclare Build and Updates (the forum didn`t allow me to post links for the Android versions). I`ve tryed this too : VaniljEclair RLS7c - A fast and stable CM 5.0.8 for Vogue/Kaiser/Polaris [2010-07-02] - the same result
I`ve done everything according the instructions... Starting Haret.. Hit D-Pad, Install, clear data... etc. etc... It actually starts to install... and everything seems fine... At some point it brings me again the install menu, I`m hitting exit, and then come some errors ?!? I forgot to type them down... Something like that some files cannot be found... And after rolling errors for a while the Android actually boots ! But then come errors too... At the first time it brings me the dial pad to enter my pin-code... I entered it , but it says it is wrong...I wasn`t wrong ofc . For the next time I simply disabled my pin in Win Mobile and try again... After the Android booted it says : The process com.android.phone has stopped unexpectedly. Please try again. , and some button like "cancel" or something like that. I'm hitting it , the Android guy appears and a message " Hit the android to begin" with a hand pointing it. I`m hitting the android - nothing happened !
I`ll be greatfull if someone can help me , or at least give me some clues !
Thank you .
p.s. sorry for my english... not my native language ;-)
Your problems are mainly in the OS version, 6.0 is not recent enough to run Android, and the radio version will also give problems, my advice would be to update to the most recent stock version, which would enable you to run Android.
This would of course wipe your present installed OS and a more recent version may or may not exist for your language, ( with the wiki down I can't be more specific with which files would suit you best).
Thanks
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Your problems are mainly in the OS version, 6.0 is not recent enough to run Android, and the radio version will also give problems, my advice would be to update to the most recent stock version, which would enable you to run Android.
This would of course wipe your present installed OS and a more recent version may or may not exist for your language, ( with the wiki down I can't be more specific with which files would suit you best).
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Thank you for your fast response . But I`ve tryed (I`ve tryed again today) before to download an official WinMo 6.1 ROM from HTC_com , but according to my TyTN II`s serial number , they said : "Sorry, this software download is not suitable for your device". And I want an original ROM... I`m not sure that I can manage to flash a cooked one on my HTC . So I guess I`ll stay with the original WinMo 6.0 withut Android .
Thanks anyway
To flash a cooked rom you would need HardSPL, it is possible to do this for WM 6.0.
Regarding an upgrade to WM6.1, this too should be possible, I'd tend to disregard the warnings about upgrades being 'unsuitable'. The unavailability of certain upgrades is more to do with them being designed for certain providers or areas, rather than their actual unsuitability for the device itself.
If you have a need for a language specific rom this too is probably available from another source, if the wiki was available then there is a table of rom upgrades that would almost certainly contain just what you would need.
Note that the wiki links are all official HTC roms, and would not need HardSPL.
@Zenity - You had given me some advice on getting the gprs working on my eclair install (Eclair problems/Android problems thread). Well, I ended up ditching Super Eclair for polymod 2.1d, and mobile data started working out of the box (which is odd, because it wasn't really working before, but who am I to question?!). Now my only issue is that if I activate wifi without first deactivating mobile data, then wifi gets caught in a loop and won't connect (i.e "Connecting, obtaining address, unsuccessful, connecting, obtaining address, unsuccessful" and on on on...). Then if I try to deactivate data or wifi, both get grayed out and say turning off, but never do. I'm fairly positive this is some conflict between data and wifi, because I've connected to the same AP without any issues while the data connection is off. Regardless, this is the most fully functional implementation that I've found. Still playing around, now that I have the time I'm diving a little further into tweaking and hacking through these releases.
Thanks for the help man. I've been on xda-devs since I first got this Att Tilt, mainly reading and learning, but I've noticed that a fair number of people don't take the time to further explicate and help people through problems and troubleshooting. You and kallt_kafee are both awesome when it comes to responding to less knowledgable users, and I for one really appreciate it. So Cheers, bro!
Thanks matcha, the main reason I still find polymod 2.1D my build of choice is that of them all, it just works, all the other builds do to, but I have found less issues from users on Polymod than the other builds, perhaps it's age has something to do with it, it has less 'new' features than the others, so less to go wrong, and perhaps also that it has grown with the whole android on kaiser project.
Anyway, appreciate the vote of confidence, really I'm just trying to give back a small measure of what Xda-Developers has given me
Ive used an android device for about 2 years now, and it just recently crapped out on me. I have a unlocked touchpro2/tilt2, and i want to flash a custom rom to it, any suggestions of which rom i should flash, and what is the easiest way to go about doing so? Ive read the flashing for noobs post, and it made no sence to me, it was all sooooo simple with android. So basically i am asking if anyone would be willing to help me with the process?? PLEASE I NEED HELP WITH THIS!!!!
It looks daunting, but it's actually quite easy. Just reread a few times, and after the terror racks you jump in. It's either that, stock ROM, or run XDAndroid, and be patient about the sporadic updates.
Honestly, though, HardSPL is very easy. Just do your research, and welcome to your new Rhodium!
thanks, ive been looking it over for a few days now. Does xdandroid require me to do all that syncing crap too?? Isnt there like a flash recovery tool like for the android devices, where i can just punch in a few commands?? Or at least a tuturial video that i can see it done?? you know how Android has Cyanogen, does WINMO have a compareable dev??
I do want to become more familiar with winmo, what are the best roms avaliable?? Im only using a tilt2/touchpro2, so please take the system specs into consideration. Also i love how easy it is to navigate with android, is there a winmo rom that is as user friendly??
looking over the instructions now about to sync and flash, but when do i flash the radio??? i need help with this!!!
alroco20 said:
looking over the instructions now about to sync and flash, but when do i flash the radio??? i need help with this!!!
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I'm sure this pictorial tutorial will help you. Let it open your mind as it opened mine. Then, you shall be awakened into custom ROMs land.
P.S. You don't have to flash a radio -- it's just recommended if you have horrible signal and/or battery life.
P.S.S. Remember to back up everything on your phone before you flash! Use MyPhone or PIM Backup (for e-mails, SMS, phone numbers).
P.S.S.S (How many "s's" can you have?) You need to flash HardSPL before flashing anything else. HardSPL is covered in the pictorial I linked.
This is the best flashing process: Task 29 (basically, it flashes a blank ROM) > [flash radio] > flash ROM > [let the ROM finish loading up -- so you are on the Today Screen] > Hard Reset (Press/hold Power + Talk/Send + End at the same time).
P.S.S.S.S Have fun!
THank you, did my first flashing last nite, and all went well. You guys at this site rock. Keep up all the good work and help!!!
Hello all,
Introduction:
My name is Dev, and I have purchased a phone from Craigslist about a year ago. I used to use Windows Mobile phones. I had no problems with them. I have used the T-mobile MDA, Wing, and Touch Pro 2. They have been good phones for me, until recently. I have always wanted a faster phone and the Touch Pro 2 seemed to be quick enough for me. Nope. It slowed down just like the others. My brother is younger than me, and he has been attracted to the Android market since the T-mobile G1. I never got an opportunity to enter this operating system market. I am very tech savvy however, and it has merely been a case of me not wanting to "change." However, I am past that and I want to contribute to the Android community. My first Android phone is the T-mobile myTouch 3G Slide. (I like sliding phones in case you haven't noticed. I must have the physical keyboard. I text a lot.) I bought it used from Craigslist, and it seemed to work fine then. The previous owner was nice enough to clear all the data off of it, and give it to me fresh. I have been using it since.
Leading into my problem/question:
Lately, however, it has been slowing down too. I want to reset it to a clean slate. I know how to do it. It is in the menus. However, I do not like how this phone has been modified. Why would you modify a phone? I have never had to do this with my Windows phones. There has never been a need to flash any roms or anything. They had updates which were simple to use. Plug the USB into the computer and follow the simple steps. Make sure it doesn't shut off during flash. Simple. I've done this plenty of times with printers, motherboards, CD-ROMs, and all other flashable devices. I understand how big of a risk this is. If the flash doesn't complete (or is the wrong rom), then the device will not work again. Unless, you J-TAG the device and flash it again correctly. But, that requires a lot of work, and a wiring schematic to figure out where the J-TAG ports are. I have learned this information from back in the day when I used to do dish testing. You would flash roms to satellite TV boxes and experiment with new encryption technologies for satellite TV. That being said, I am terrified of flashing phones, because I would have no idea where to look for J-TAG ports for phones, if I mess something up. So, in conclusion, my experience in flashing has been for testing purposes only.
Problem/Question:
How do I figure out what the status of my phone is? It says Cyanogen Mod on start up. My brother tells me this is a very good rom. Who decided that though? Is it a bad idea to go back to stock T-mobile rom? I've always had this thought nagging me to try it and see why people go through all this headache of S-OFF and rooting phones. However, if I go back to the stock rom, will I be able to gain access to the phone's internal memory again? I don't like the idea of losing the S-OFF and rooting privileges the previous owner worked so hard to do. I would like to flash the latest T-mobile rom to the device, but how do I know if it will mess up everything and clash with some code leftover from the modified rom of Cyanogen Mod? Also, how do I backup all my stuff? I want to keep all my setting for the programs I have downloaded from the Google Market. I want to keep my contacts and notes. I want to keep my text messages and MMS messages. I am one of those idiots who keeps all his text messages and MMS messages archived. I go back through the messages from time to time for retrieval of important information I may have spoken about with someone in the past. I know this is a loaded post. I am sorry. If anyone is willing or able to help me, then please pick any point in this post and we'll go from there. This was just an outline of everything so you guys can help me find a starting point.
What I Know About the Phone:
T-Mobile myTouch 3G Slide
Android 2.3.3
Baseband 47.63.35.21U_7.15.35.16
Kernel 2.6.32.17-cyanogenmod-g501281a [email protected] #1
CPU ARMv6-compatible process rev 5 (c6l)
Mod CyanogenMod-7.0.0-Slide
Build GRI40
I believe it is S-OFF and it is rooted. I would like a procedure to verify though. Please.
Memory Card:
Memory card has a lot of folders and stuff on it from which I have no idea. Some of it says nervous stuff like ".android_secure" "clockworkmod" "2111.zip" "signed_Froyo_Slide_Radio.zip" "gapps-gb-20110120-signed.zip" "update.zip" "update-cm-7.0.0-Slide-signed" and "Android" I like it when my memory card is clean with nothing but a few folders like "Pictures" "Videos" "Movies" "Data" "Programs" "Software" "Music" and other general stuff like that. I like this so I can use the memory card elsewhere and know where everything is. Basically, I want to know if I can delete everything without shooting myself in the foot. How do I find out what each .apk is for? Will a stock T-mobile rom come with all the stock backgrounds, contact pictures, and all the other stock goodies? I feel like some of those were on the SD card too.
Things I like:
Speed. I like things to be fast. Utilitarian. I don't want any fancy effects, typically. I like everything simple. For example, my desktops are all using the Classic Windows Theme, and all fade in / fade out have been disabled. I want my phone to be the same way. Nothing I don't need. Minimalistic. I don't like to keep many programs running at once. This was something I liked about the Windows phones. I could click in the upper right hand corner and it would present a list of running programs. I could close specific ones that I did not want to run in the background. Android doesn't seem to have a feature like this, but it does seem like they close if they are not being displayed on the screen.
WIFI
How do I fix the WIFI in this phone? It seems like the radio drivers are wrong are outdated. It keeps dropping the connection immediately after the phone connects to a wireless network. I noticed a thread, but I cannot post to it. I wanted to ask how I would apply this patch to my phone without having a rom or anything. I thought maybe I could boot the phone into the recovery mode, and install the radio drivers maybe? I don't know what I am doing though, and want some guidance.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1177650
And, why does the GPS take so long to get a fix?
Moderators/Thanks
I am very sorry to anyone and everyone whom I may offend in this post. If all my questions are answered somewhere else, please direct me to the correct area. I have been searching and researching for so long and I don't seem to be getting anywhere. I gave up about two months ago, and now I am back again trying to fix this phone. Please do not be mad at me for pestering you guys with annoying questions from new users like me. I know you guys are tired of answering these questions over and over again. Please. Just give me a little guidance. Thank you so much for any and all help. I really truly appreciate this. Android seems to be a very good operating system, and I am looking forward to all your posts.
P.S.
Sorry about the length of this post. It is my first time.
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Testing to see if I get notification of replies.
Well, for starters, welcome to the myTouch 3G Slide fora, second, yes, your brother is right, you are running the best ROM available at the moment, but your running an older version of itif you like, i can link you to an updated version of the ROM or i can point you to the "Android Development" section of the forum for the myTouch Slide and you can pick one your self, if you need any help with your device, feel free to PM me or reply to this thread at any time, seeing as how iI am one of the last people who actually still support this device for ROMs, i would reccomend my "TeamFreedom LeWaOS" ROM, but im still working out some kinks in it, for now, i will give you the opportunity to update to the latest version of "CyanogenMOD 7.2":
Download the ROM (has fix for WiFi i believe): http://download.cyanogenmod.com/get/RC/update-cm-7.2.0-RC2-espresso-signed.zip
Download for the latest 2.3.3 GAPPS: http://goo.im/gapps/gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip
Also, here is how to FLASH these ROMs:
Pre-requsite: PLACE "update-cm-7.2.0-RC2-espresso-signed.zip" and "gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip" on the root of your sdcard
1: Hold the power button on your phone
2: Tap "Reboot"
3: Tap "Recovery"
4: when in "Recovery" use the Volume +/- keys to move and the trackpad to select "Wipe data/factory reset" then select "yes" if necessary
4a: select "Install zip from sdcard"
5: then select "choose zip from sdcard"
6: select "update-cm-7.2.0-RC2-espresso-signed.zip"
7: When finished select "reboot system now"
8: again, reboot into recovery
9: flash "gapps-gb-20110828-signed.zip"
10: reboot system, and enjoy your updated phone, this process overall is the same for all android phones, and for all ROMs
Thank You
Thanks. I will try the new CyanogenMod rom.
Dealing with the performance of your phone, how many SMS/MMS msgs do you have currently? I noticed you said you dont like deleting them. Thing is, if you have a lot of msgs it can significantly impact your phones performance. Obviously it impacts the messaging app but in my experience it can affect the whole system. This may not be the case on CM ROMS but i have noticed it on stock. (i dont use CM much, prefer Sense).
Also u can try overclocking. I like NoFrills app from market. Its free and allows u to select your i/o scheduler and governor.
For backups, hands down Titanium Backup is the best if u ask me (and many others).
Hope this helps a little.
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Update on CM7
Hey, guys.
So, I've updated to CM 7.2.0. Since then, I've been having problems with the touch screen and the phone app. If I use the directional pad, I can highlight the phone app, but when I click on it, it crashes. Also, the touch screen is unresponsive all the time. Sometimes, I will get lucky and when I reboot it, I will get access to the touch screen again. I am wondering if maybe I didn't update the drivers for the touch screen or the phone radio or something. I have a hunch that the phone app is crashing and lagging the whole system, so the touch screen isn't working because of that. When the touch screen does work, the phone app is also working. I am thinking of just flashing the phone with HTC's stock rom and then rooting and s-off it all over again, because I think the previous owner didn't do something right. I want to know if I can just flash the stock rom without any consequences. And, also will I be able to get it rooted and s-offed again? I'm hoping that by flashing the stock rom, I can test my touch screen and phone app with confidence. Maybe the phone app is sending commands for a newer firmware revision, and mine isn't updated to that version yet. Not sure how this works really. Anyways, any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Suggestion. Re-flash the rom, but in recovery go into advanced, wipe dalvik cache. Hit back, now in mounts and storage. Wipe the following, boot, system, hit back wipe/factory reset, wipe cache. Flash rom, then gapps. Reboot. You should be good to go. Hope this helps.
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Oh and to check for S-off reboot to bootloader when holding power, or while phone is off power on while holding vol down. Should say alfarev s-off or unlocked.
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Ran into a wall
Alright, guys.
So, I ran into a wall. It is now completely unresponsive to the touch screen. I had recently flashed it, and I am trying to do what you had suggested, Dvarl. The problem is that I cannot touch the android logo so I can continue onto the Rom Manager where I can flash and reboot into recovery. If I try to go into the recovery by holding the down arrow and power button, then clicking on "Recovery," I get the red triangle logo. It has always been this way. Lastly, my phone is not s-offed. Thanks for helping me out with that. lol Any ideas on how to flash without the Rom Manager recovery flash?
Edit: I think I have found the problem. I think my digitizer is going out. I am going to maybe purchase a new one and see if it fixes the touching problem. I'll keep you guys posted. Thanks for all your help thus far!