good day all,
new to the WM arena and come seeking some knowledge.
i would like to know how i would know if my TP2 is
a gsm or a cdma phone.
also i been playing and would like to know how i
can "format" and reinstall WM but the factory version
and not one that is crippled by service providers.
now i seen words used like rom, radio, spl and do not have the
fogiest clue what that all means to me. this is a
step up from flashing normal java based phones
also how can i get rid of all my connections except the 1 used for internet and mms? there is a whole stack of them but not
lister under connections.
looking forward to some heavy duty learning and lots of reading.
thanx ahead ...
If your Device has a SIM card then most likely it is a GSM Device
Bizybone said:
If your Device has a SIM card then most likely it is a GSM Device
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Not accurate. The CDMA phones for both Verizon & Sprint have SIM cards since they're world phones.
The easy way is just to tell us what carrier/country you have & we can tell you if your device is GSM or CDMA.
xnifex said:
Not accurate. The CDMA phones for both Verizon & Sprint have SIM cards since they're world phones.
The easy way is just to tell us what carrier/country you have & we can tell you if your device is GSM or CDMA.
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It is also wildly inaccurate because Japan and a few others don't use GSM and they have SIM cards. Technically they are RUIM cards, but they look the same.
As xnifex said, please state the carrier it was purchased from or the branding on the phone before we can ascertain the technology behind it.
gehzumteufel said:
It is also wildly inaccurate because Japan and a few others don't use GSM and they have SIM cards. Technically they are RUIM cards, but they look the same.
As xnifex said, please state the carrier it was purchased from or the branding on the phone before we can ascertain the technology behind it.
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how rude of me, sorry.
my SP is Vodacom(majority share held by vodafone)and my home country is South Africa. i think it would be safe to asume that my phone is GSM.
thanx for the replies.
Don't see it as rude. You were genuinely inquiring about information you didn't know. That isn't rude I don't think.
Since I just noticed we all glanced over some of the other info you were requesting I will go over it.
A rom is basically the "firmware" that is loaded. The "radio" is the hardware that allows you to connect to the network, but it is interchangeably also used to refer to the radio rom. The firmware that controls the radio. Different radios may perform better or worse. The SPL is the bootloader.
And welcome to the community!
gehzumteufel said:
Don't see it as rude. You were genuinely inquiring about information you didn't know. That isn't rude I don't think.
Since I just noticed we all glanced over some of the other info you were requesting I will go over it.
A rom is basically the "firmware" that is loaded. The "radio" is the hardware that allows you to connect to the network, but it is interchangeably also used to refer to the radio rom. The firmware that controls the radio. Different radios may perform better or worse. The SPL is the bootloader.
And welcome to the community!
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ah, that makes sense.
a giant step up from flashing normal phones. i always flashed my
SE phones. tee hee.
now from what i figured i need to do the unlocking of the spl
then i can flash a rom, now this is the question. what rom to choose and can i use WM 6.1 and 6.5 or shoul i keep to 6.1 as is atm on my TP2? also will a new custom rom have no settings so i can setup my own settings? also i want to have full access to every possible feature and setting if possible.
after all this i would like to extend my programming to
this wonderfull new world.
i will stop now. dont want to scare people away with my long posts. hehehe
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I have a t-mobile touch pro 2 from htc and i dont know if it is GSM or CDMA, how do you check? im a noob at this so i wouldnt know.. Also is living in american version different from overseas version of the phone for t-mobile?
t-mobile would be GSM
the US version would be locked to US t-mobile and i dont think you would be able to use it internationally without unlocking first
what do you mean by locked to US t-mobile and for sure it is GSM? dont want to risk bricking my phone :/
That means that you can ONLY use your TP2 on the US T-Mobile Network, unless you unlock the sim. And yes T-Mobile Touch Pro 2 is GSM.
okay thanks a lot. any advice you guys want to give when you guys were starting off?
pandaxownage said:
I have a t-mobile touch pro 2 from htc and i dont know if it is GSM or CDMA, how do you check? im a noob at this so i wouldnt know.. Also is living in american version different from overseas version of the phone for t-mobile?
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T-Mobile anywhere worldwide is GSM, not CDMA. (Verizon and Sprint...and a few others are CDMA).
However, the version of TP2 released/branded by T-Mobile USA is different -- with somewhat different radio hardware -- than what is used in Europe.
It will definitely work on the EDGE-speed GSM networks in Europe...but not as sure about the 3G-speed bands.
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That means that you can ONLY use your TP2 on the US T-Mobile Network, unless you unlock the sim.
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That's not quite true...it's only true if you want to put a non-T-MoUSA sim card in your phone. I've taken my previous (not TP2) T-MoUSA phones to Europe more than once and they work and access the networks fine. It's just that you have to pay international roaming charges...but it definitely works.
T-Mobile international data roaming charges in most places in the GSM world are $15 per megabyte...so that's pretty steep for web browsing, but not bad for mostly-text e-mail which is typically only a few kilobytes per e-mail.
Charges for international voice calls are quite high, too. That's why some people who plan to make local calls -- e.g., to call a Rome number while in Rome -- (or use a lot of data) get a local/European/whatever sim card...and that's the situation for which you need to have the sim-unlock done.
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okay thanks a lot. any advice you guys want to give when you guys were starting off?
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Run these two cabs (I also recommend running and archiving all cabs you use, in a folder on your SD card)....they're the official "welcome basket" for all new TP2 owners
Together they help clear up memory management issues the TP2 has, which you would see the negative effects of rather quickly.
The first one turns off internet pre-caching (a waste of resources with little or no benefit), and the second one lets the phone free up memory better when apps are done using it.
sirphunkee said:
Run these two cabs (I also recommend running and archiving all cabs you use, in a folder on your SD card)....they're the official "welcome basket" for all new TP2 owners
Together they help clear up memory management issues the TP2 has, which you would see the negative effects of rather quickly.
The first one turns off internet pre-caching (a waste of resources with little or no benefit), and the second one lets the phone free up memory better when apps are done using it.
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i am currently using clean ram should i delete that?
pandaxownage said:
i am currently using clean ram should i delete that?
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Nope, that's just one more tool that can help, it just may not need to lend as much of a hand after you run those.
thanks, anything else i should need or know before i start flashing and stuff?
pandaxownage said:
thanks, anything else i should need or know before i start flashing and stuff?
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Read the first post of "Flashing your first GSM Rom..." thread -- and associated HardSPL thread -- carefully.
That's the most important thing you can do before flashing custom rom.
just to make sure its http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540 right?
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just to make sure its http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550131
and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540 right?
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Yes and yes.
should i download the cooked rom and after hspl i install then flash or how does it work?
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should i download the cooked rom and after hspl i install then flash or how does it work?
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The big bold red steps #2 and #3 at that second link answer that for you
pandaxownage said:
I have a t-mobile touch pro 2 from htc and i dont know if it is GSM or CDMA, how do you check? im a noob at this so i wouldnt know.. Also is living in american version different from overseas version of the phone for t-mobile?
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If you got the phone directly from HTC, it is probably the international verson that works with the European T-Mobile high speed network. Does the box it came in say "T-Mobile" or "HTC"?
But it is definitely GSM.
Is it unlocked?
it came in the t-mobile box. what do you mean by unlocked?
pandaxownage said:
it came in the t-mobile box. what do you mean by unlocked?
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altered at the firmware level to allow it to work with sim cards from other carriers. It's something you have to do or pay somebody to do for you, so if you did neither, then it's still "sim-locked"
yeah its locked :X
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yeah its locked :X
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Not a big deal, don't sweat it...that has no bearing on flashing radios or roms, only matters if you want to use it on a carrier other than T-Mobile (US)
I think what stevedebi was asking for is because the euro version comes unlocked from the factory, and I believe is labeled as such.
Is there a way to make a rooted and SIM-unlocked DInc2 usable on AT&T and T-Mo networks in the US? Any sort of flashable upgrade to any internal components, hacked radio or whatnot that would achieve that purpose?
Really?? Your question wasn't answered when you posted this in the development forum? You need to sim unlock your phone via verizon or xtc clip.
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Ah, rude comment followed by subpar answer, apparently that's the norm on xda? What would the world be if we didn't continuously punish people for harmless mistakes? Grow up.
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Taebom said:
Really?? Your question wasn't answered when you posted this in the development forum? You need to sim unlock your phone via verizon or xtc clip.
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I will be as nice as I possibly can.
LEARN TO READ, will ya?
The phone is *already* SIM unlocked and rooted. However, Verizon blocks AT&T and T-Mobile SIMs even on SIM-unlocked phones. Hence the question.
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Ah, rude comment followed by subpar answer, apparently that's the norm on xda? What would the world be if we didn't continuously punish people for harmless mistakes? Grow up.
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Thanks for the support, snowman, but this was no mistake.
The question was phrased perfectly, and I am sure I am not the only one who would benefit from a solution.
In fact, the whole reason I posted it in the development forum initially is because, based on my research, there is no solution as of yet, and if it is possible at all, it will probably require further developers' involvement to find it.
If anyone here wants to prove me wrong, I would appreciate a concrete answer or a link to a solution.
I'm fairly certain I've read of the DINC 2 being used on T-Mobile successfully, not sure if I've read of AT&T though. Can't for the life of me remember where I read it though, probably here or Droid-Forums.net.
sk0t said:
I'm fairly certain I've read of the DINC 2 being used on T-Mobile successfully, not sure if I've read of AT&T though. Can't for the life of me remember where I read it though, probably here or Droid-Forums.net.
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My understanding is, it is not possible out of the box:
http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-incredible-2/327419-sim-unlock-issue.html#post2907910
My experience has been the same.
This is what I came up with. I hope it can help you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201154
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This is what I came up with. I hope it can help you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1201154
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Thanks, but I don't believe this thread answers the question. Or am I missing something?
Haven't tried it, but here's a link that should offer a solution:
androidforums.com/htc-droid-incredible-2/327419-sim-unlock-issue.html
The thread contains instructions for how to input an unlock code that should allow you to use other carriers' SIM card both in the US and abroad.
Good luck.
I;m in the same boat....I have unlocked my phone via xtc clip but still wont work att nor t mobile...what needs to be done for it to work.
What part of the memory is the gsm software lock stored, anyone know?
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Taebom said:
Really?? Your question wasn't answered when you posted this in the development forum? You need to sim unlock your phone via verizon or xtc clip.
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Correct me if im wrong, if I use the xtc clip (which i did), I do not need to call Verizon for a sim unlock code?
ep9716 said:
I;m in the same boat....I have unlocked my phone via xtc clip but still wont work att nor t mobile...what needs to be done for it to work.
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Try reading: http://androidforums.com/htc-droid-incredible-2/327419-sim-unlock-issue.html
Have you done everything suggested there? (Changing to GSM, changed APN settings, etc)
If I'm not mistaken its a global phone. However the GSM frequency used abroad is different than in the states. Therefore I don't think it's possible.
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loki154 said:
If I'm not mistaken its a global phone. However the GSM frequency used abroad is different than in the states. Therefore I don't think it's possible.
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It's a quad band phone, so the problem is not with frequencies.
The problem is with verizon specifically precluding AT&T and T-Mo SIMs from working even when DInc2 is SIM-unlocked. Not sure which part of firmware is responsible for it, but I'd imagine it's flashable, so, given attention from the right developer, fixable.
I would really prefer to hear from people that know of a solution or are able to produce one. Lots of guesses resulting from being misinformed or, worse yet, misreading the original question just distract everyone and make it less likely that the real solution will ultimately be found.
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It's a quad band phone, so the problem is not with frequencies.
The problem is with verizon specifically precluding AT&T and T-Mo SIMs from working even when DInc2 is SIM-unlocked. Not sure which part of firmware is responsible for it, but I'd imagine it's flashable, so, given attention from the right developer, fixable.
I would really prefer to hear from people that know of a solution or are able to produce one. Lots of guesses resulting from being misinformed or, worse yet, misreading the original question just distract everyone and make it less likely that the real solution will ultimately be found.
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If you know someone that can write modem firmware then it's possible. but good luck with finding someone that can do that.
I can't remember where but its on xda somewhere. Apparently 3g won't work due to different bands. I really just can't remember.
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I unlocked my Dinc2 through a code from VZ. I can be on AT&T or T-Mo's network for EDGE; 3G no so much.
This phone, if I'm not mistaken, works with CDMA 850 - 1900 bands which my HTC Desire uses for Open Mobile in Puerto Rico. I'm looking for a thread or tutorial that shows me how to configure a different carrier on a cellphone (mine does not carry the Epic).
However, it's hard to find. No threads show up on this forum, for example. Obviously the GSM SIM chip is almost plug and play, provided it's a world phone or already unlocked. Where I'm going is: does the cellphone automatically detect my network? Do I need to input data into the phone (I'm guessing yes) or change settings / tick boxes?
Thanks in advance.
Hi,
Can someone please reply? I've searched the net and used the search tool. Is it one of those "too obvoius" things? I believe there should be a lot more interest in this topic.
I spoke to an Open Mobile representative and she told me that the company searches the ESN to see if it's one of their phones. If it's not, they won't approve service for it. Is there a workaround? I just want to use the phone I want with the service I want, if it's possible. I believe this phone is compatible.
From the knowledge I have there is not a legal way to do this.
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From the knowledge I have there is not a legal way to do this.
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What he said. ESN cloning might be a gray area in some circumstances rather than completely illegal but it's not allowed to be discussed on XDA.
Just bought via ebay Gnex Verizon but really need some answers here..
1. Please info if Verizon Gnex is an inject type or RUIM type? because there is microSIM slot available
2. I'm checking through adb shell using "su getprop" that the parameter
[ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha]: [Verizon]
[ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric]: [310004]
Anyone know if this mean the operator is locked? and please someone help me how to change these to match my local operator.
Thanks a lot.
really need help here...any links related or anything that sounds similar would be very much appreciated. thanks
vzw stays on vzw.
sorry you can only activate it on vzw.
I may be wrong here, but as long as your CDMA operator is willing to activate a device that is not their own (which doesn't happen at all any longer in any North American carrier), then I think it may be possible.
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I may be wrong here, but as long as your CDMA operator is willing to activate a device that is not their own (which doesn't happen at all any longer in any North American carrier), then I think it may be possible.
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the carrier has to be willing to also flash/change a bunch of items on the phone itself (which they arent anymore really). to do this, you have to have a expensive piece of software ($99) to even complete the process.
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the carrier has to be willing to also flash/change a bunch of items on the phone itself (which they arent anymore really). to do this, you have to have a expensive piece of software ($99) to even complete the process.
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These guys here have made progress. From what I read, phone and text work fine on other carriers, but they are still working on data.
@Zepius @efrant, dunno if it will work or not...but it is a start.
many thanks to you guys...and xda
Despite a week long determination to seek out the answer on Google, I could not find a definitive guide or step by step process for flashing my US Cellular S3 phone to Straight Talk. I believe I titled this thread clearly enough so that when people arrive here they know exactly what to expect.
The only thing I have accomplished is that I have bought a T-Mobile Compatible Micro SIM Card.
Beyond that, I have no idea what to do next. I've read about flashing, and rooting, and custom ROMs and hidden menus, but I don't know where to start.
I have also read it can be done and it can't be done. However, through much research I am fairly sure this can be done. Will someone who knows how to do this keeping the 3G speed capability intact and all the features one would expect from their Galaxy S3 phone to have, please lay it out step by step for a scooby doobie noobie?
Much appreciated!
Use a ROM designed for your phone and pop the T-Mobile SIM in. You may have to add and APN, but that's probably as good as it gets.
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Use a ROM designed for your phone and pop the T-Mobile SIM in. You may have to add and APN, but that's probably as good as it gets.
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Thanks for your reply!
I guess I don't know what to do first, Unlock, Flash, or Root my phone.
I honestly don't know if this will possibly work. CDMA and GSM are not exactly compatible. They are completely different cellular network technologies. Does yours even have a SIM card slot?
Try what aerowinder said, but dont expect much. And just fyi, for that model you should be in the Sprint forums I'm pretty sure. (Might be Verizon if I'm wrong, but I'm confident you need Sprints area)
You won't be able to flash anything in this forum without porting it first. Much easier to just use the correct forum.
Odin flash your recovery, then pick and flash your Rom. IF there's a free unlock method on yours, you'll probably need a stock based Rom to use it.
Good luck!
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