Configuring with different CDMA carrier (Open Mobile) - Samsung Epic 4G Touch

This phone, if I'm not mistaken, works with CDMA 850 - 1900 bands which my HTC Desire uses for Open Mobile in Puerto Rico. I'm looking for a thread or tutorial that shows me how to configure a different carrier on a cellphone (mine does not carry the Epic).
However, it's hard to find. No threads show up on this forum, for example. Obviously the GSM SIM chip is almost plug and play, provided it's a world phone or already unlocked. Where I'm going is: does the cellphone automatically detect my network? Do I need to input data into the phone (I'm guessing yes) or change settings / tick boxes?
Thanks in advance.

Hi,
Can someone please reply? I've searched the net and used the search tool. Is it one of those "too obvoius" things? I believe there should be a lot more interest in this topic.
I spoke to an Open Mobile representative and she told me that the company searches the ESN to see if it's one of their phones. If it's not, they won't approve service for it. Is there a workaround? I just want to use the phone I want with the service I want, if it's possible. I believe this phone is compatible.

From the knowledge I have there is not a legal way to do this.

jdefran said:
From the knowledge I have there is not a legal way to do this.
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What he said. ESN cloning might be a gray area in some circumstances rather than completely illegal but it's not allowed to be discussed on XDA.

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Unlocking SonyEricsson SO903i

My girlfriend came back from Japan a few months ago and while she was there she bought a cell phone. This is partially my fault since I told her that if it had a SIM it could be unlocked and used in the US. Mostly true, right?
The problem is she went and bought a brand new phone that was recently released in Japan and I cant find a way to unlock it.
Does anyone know how to unlock this phone? Is there something specific I could use for SonyEricsson or is there a general unlock?
Its branded NTTDoCoMo FOMA. Its a sick phone, I just wish she could use it here.
Any help would be great.
Thanks in advance
Is Sony using WM?
OK when she got the phone did she ask for it to be enabled for roaming?
Have you asked the provider to unlock the phone for you?
The provider will ususally do one or the other.
If you are looking for a software solution you've come to the wrong place.
Its a Quad Band phone so it should work here. I'm not sure I understand why it would have to be roaming enabled. We dont want to roam, that would be expensive; we want to unlock it and use it with T-mobile.
Japanese providers will not assist you in any way to unlock a phone, its almost taboo to ask. When I was in Japan I asked how I could use a GSM Quad Band in the US and all they would say is it cant be done. Untrue because I know people who have Japanese phones in the US.
I'm not looking for a software solution, but if anyone knows where I could find software that might help that would be cool. I'm just wondering if anyone knows how to unlock this phone or knows how to unlock any SonyEricsson as it might be similar.
And are you asking if Sony is using Windows Mobile? If so, no they aren't. Are these forums only for WM?
My fault.
Upon further research I answered my own question.
It's actually not a GSM phone as I initially thought. Its a CDMA phone that uses a UIM card that is identical to a SIM card.
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This is a GSM phone u can find IMEI number INa CDMA set u get ESN number not IMEI this phone is a GSM brand phone working on some other frequency. This can be unlocked using T-Sim but can't get network in your country.

Mytouch Slide on AT&T question

Hello all, I'm about to purchase a Mytouch Slide for use with AT&T, and wanted to make sure I wasn't going to have any issues with anything not working (GPS, SMS/MMS, etc.). I know I won't have AT&T 3G, only EDGE, but I can live with that. I searched but found very llittle on the subject, I'm assuming thats because both this handset, and this section of the forum, is fairly new.
Hopefully I'll be able to learn more about the handset in the next few weeks, and be abe to start helping others around here too. This appears to be a rather productive, professional forum. To that end, I'll say thanks in advance
What exactly are you asking.
So far the only people I know of, that can unlock this Phone is T-Mobile. Also, you must have an account in good standings & be a customer longer than 3 months..
eugene373 said:
So far the only people I know of, that can unlock this Phone is T-Mobile. Also, you must have an account in good standings & be a customer longer than 3 months..
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What, really? So, I can't just buy one from, anywhere, and go use it? I'm new to this whole unlocking thing (CDMA background, and I work for a CDMA carrier), so I'm not really sure how the unlocking process even works. I guess that means I'd be much better served purchasing one that is already unlocked?
Well you can ask them lol but yah Check local listings new mytouch slides are only 300 and get them unlocked idk XD sorry
TakoLuffer said:
Well you can ask them lol but yah Check local listings new mytouch slides are only 300 and get them unlocked idk XD sorry
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what your post says. The MyTouch Slide is significantly more than $300 new. It was posted above that they can't be unlocked. Are you stating that infact isn't true, and they can be?
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What, really? So, I can't just buy one from, anywhere, and go use it? I'm new to this whole unlocking thing (CDMA background, and I work for a CDMA carrier), so I'm not really sure how the unlocking process even works. I guess that means I'd be much better served purchasing one that is already unlocked?
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unlocking works the say way it does for CDMA as it does with GSM. The only difference is instead of having to take my GSM phone to my carrier (or call them) to have my ESN number changed to my new unlocked phone like i would have to do with a CDMA phone. I can just pop my SIM card into my new unlocked GSM phone.
Even if you work for a CDMA carrier you should know that. If you work for any cell phone carrier you should know that
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unlocking works the say way it does for CDMA as it does with GSM. The only difference is instead of having to take my GSM phone to my carrier (or call them) to have my ESN number changed to my new unlocked phone like i would have to do with a CDMA phone. I can just pop my SIM card into my new unlocked GSM phone.
Even if you work for a CDMA carrier you should know that. If you work for any cell phone carrier you should know that
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I understand the idea behind being able to take my sim card out of one GSM phone, and put it into another. The network looks for the info on your sim, not your ESN/MEID. And honestly, the only carriers that 'unlock' any CDMA phones currently are a couple of the pre-paids (MetroPCS & Cricket) as far as I know. You can't take a Verizon phone to Sprint, or visa versa. I work for a MetroPCS retailer, I know all about flashing CDMA phones to the MetroPCS network, and it's alot more than simply opening it up to be able to be used with anybody. Not to mention needing to use a 3rd-party flashing software that will flash Metro info to the device, as well as extract the MEID from the handset and add it to the MetroPCS database so the MetroPCS activation system will recognize it as a usable handset. So, it's really not a fair comparison.
Regardless, it still leaves my question unanswered. I've never dealt with GSM phones outside of simply buying a new one at the AT&T store. Being able to 'unlock' it to use with any carrier is a new idea to me. So, instead of everybody telling me I'm stupid and that I should know how it works, can ANYBODY point me in the direction of an explanation of what it takes to unlock a GSM phone, what changes need to be made, and why a MyTouch Slide is special WRT it not being able to be unlocked?
Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
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Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
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Might I ask how you got yours unlocked?
I got mine unlocked from theremoteunlocker.com
Gsm phones are locked via its hardware just like how when you use your pc the bios is software interlayed into your mobo so they could lock it if they wanted to only accept the types of processors they accept e.g tmobile locked their phone (the mobo) to only accept the tmobile simcard (the processor) the unlock code is a delevoper or admin unlock code that removes the simcard lock so you can use any simcard on it
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Virus1x said:
I got mine unlocked from theremoteunlocker.com
Gsm phones are locked via its hardware just like how when you use your pc the bios is software interlayed into your mobo so they could lock it if they wanted to only accept the types of processors they accept e.g tmobile locked their phone (the mobo) to only accept the tmobile simcard (the processor) the unlock code is a delevoper or admin unlock code that removes the simcard lock so you can use any simcard on it
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Got it, I just figured that out from reading the website that you said you used. SIGNIFICANTLY easier task than 'unlocking' a CDMA handset. I've already sent them an email, if I can infact get one unlocked, I'll be buying one this week. Thanks!!
Yep best phone have trumps iphone
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well where did u get urs unlocked from
Look around on tmobiles website, the have the conditions for giving you a unlock code posted. If you meet the conditions they will email you the unlock code.
I did it with my slide, I called them Friday and they emailed me a unlock code by Monday. Free and easy.
Found the URL. http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm51885.xml
There you go...
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Virus1x said:
Im with att everything works perfectly on my slide
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I'm assuming by perfect you're not including 3G since the slide isn't set or rather, doesn't contain the correct radio module to use AT&T's 3G band. Or does it and we're being lied to by the carriers (no surprise there) hmm...

Serious questions about evo on other networks

Hi, i have seen evo work flawlessly on other networks and many guys on ebay and craiglist have been selling them. I have a few questions, i would appreciate if you guys can answer them as honestly as possible, coz i m considering getting one, but at the same time i dont want to land up in trouble. I will happily pay 20 bucks more a month than do something which is legally not accepted.
1. I hv seen phones which have their MEID registered in d databases of the other networks. Now my question is , is there anything wrong or illegal if people get the meid of evo registered onto the network by social engineering ?
2. Can you trust the craiglist/ebay guys, coz even if they get your meid registered, they will know your phone no and your meid, what if they mess with it later ? Can they misues the meid/no and if they do, who will be held responsible ?
3. What happens if later the network figures out by some means that the registered meid is not of their supported phones ? What action can they take ?
4. What challeges will i face if i need to transfer my number to a different handset or if i wish to port my number ? Will they block my number if they find that the meid is of an unsupported phone ?
5. Lastly, if i need to sell my phone, what do i do ? How do i get my number out of the phone and what all things need to be done.(sorry for my limited knowledge, i have very limited experience with cdma)
PS : I m only talking about where the phones meid is registered and not where the phone has been programed/cl*ned etc.
All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
techspark said:
Hi, i have seen evo work flawlessly on other networks and many guys on ebay and craiglist have been selling them. I have a few questions, i would appreciate if you guys can answer them as honestly as possible, coz i m considering getting one, but at the same time i dont want to land up in trouble. I will happily pay 20 bucks more a month than do something which is legally not accepted.
1. I hv seen phones which have their MEID registered in d databases of the other networks. Now my question is , is there anything wrong or illegal if people get the meid of evo registered onto the network by social engineering ?
2. Can you trust the craiglist/ebay guys, coz even if they get your meid registered, they will know your phone no and your meid, what if they mess with it later ? Can they misues the meid/no and if they do, who will be held responsible ?
3. What happens if later the network figures out by some means that the registered meid is not of their supported phones ? What action can they take ?
4. What challeges will i face if i need to transfer my number to a different handset or if i wish to port my number ? Will they block my number if they find that the meid is of an unsupported phone ?
5. Lastly, if i need to sell my phone, what do i do ? How do i get my number out of the phone and what all things need to be done.(sorry for my limited knowledge, i have very limited experience with cdma)
PS : I m only talking about where the phones meid is registered and not where the phone has been programed/cl*ned etc.
All help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Simple answer to all questions. This would require MEID cloning which is illegal.
^^ As i mentioned, these are not cloned ones. They have the og meid of d evo registered onto the database by some means. No techie work has been done on the phone, the meid that is printed on the box, d same meid is shown under the settings.
tgruendler said:
Simple answer to all questions. This would require MEID cloning which is illegal.
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It's only illegal if you are cloning a phone that you do not own. It's like downloading an ISO. If you already own the cd you can download it as much as you want.
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This is still pretty shady.
Out of curiosity, what is the advantage of doing this? At least in the United States there are really only 2 big players that support CDMA networks -- Verizon and Sprint. Personally I think Sprint has some of the most reasonable pricing for their unlimited plans. I suppose you could use it on Cricket's network as well but why would you want to do that other than price?
I think the $69.99 price/month (I guess it's actually $79.99 after you tack on the $10 for 4G) is really fair. I previously had a 25% discount through my employer which made the final bill each month $70. I have since dropped my own line and switched to my parents' family plan. Now I only pay $30/month.
It's only illegal if you are cloning a phone that you do not own. It's like downloading an ISO. If you already own the cd you can download it as much as you want.
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True. I would like to know one thing, if i get the phone from ebay/craiglist and later that guy clones a different phone(which he owns) with the meid and no which is on my evo(since he would knw everything abt my phone) and if caught, who will be the one who will land up in trouble ??
Out of curiosity, what is the advantage of doing this?
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Price ! Boost - $50 unlimited. I am happy with gsm, i m just considering it at the moment, but i first need definite answers to all my questions before i take a step forward.
I don't think Boost uses GSM. I believe it's iDEN networks. But the Evo is a CDMA phone so I don't see how you could use it on a GSM or iDEN network. Maybe folks outside the US don't have this problem but certainly in the States I think you're tied to a CDMA network so your only options are Sprint, Verizon, or Cricket.
gamblor01 said:
I don't think Boost uses GSM. I believe it's iDEN networks. But the Evo is a CDMA phone so I don't see how you could use it on a GSM or iDEN network. Maybe folks outside the US don't have this problem but certainly in the States I think you're tied to a CDMA network so your only options are Sprint, Verizon, or Cricket.
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No no, i m sorry i didnt explain it well. Boost uses cdma. What i meant to say was, i m currently happy using gsm, i was considering switching to cdma, only if i get proper answers to questions i listed
That makes more sense. Boost must have migrated because I swear they used iDEN. Still -- I like my family plan option (which I realize may not be an option for you). Yes it has 1500 minutes/month but you only use minutes if you call a land line -- mobile to mobile calls are free. Can't beat $30/month for an Evo.
Whatever you choose, good luck.
They use both now but, I think they are migrating to an all cdma network since sprint is really doing away with the nextel network. They started using cdma in early 2010. But if you can get it on the network it will work. I would personally do it myself *google*.... and stay away from the shady people and make sure it is done right.

[Q] GNex Verizon for use in other cdma operator

Just bought via ebay Gnex Verizon but really need some answers here..
1. Please info if Verizon Gnex is an inject type or RUIM type? because there is microSIM slot available
2. I'm checking through adb shell using "su getprop" that the parameter
[ro.cdma.home.operator.alpha]: [Verizon]
[ro.cdma.home.operator.numeric]: [310004]
Anyone know if this mean the operator is locked? and please someone help me how to change these to match my local operator.
Thanks a lot.
really need help here...any links related or anything that sounds similar would be very much appreciated. thanks
vzw stays on vzw.
sorry you can only activate it on vzw.
I may be wrong here, but as long as your CDMA operator is willing to activate a device that is not their own (which doesn't happen at all any longer in any North American carrier), then I think it may be possible.
efrant said:
I may be wrong here, but as long as your CDMA operator is willing to activate a device that is not their own (which doesn't happen at all any longer in any North American carrier), then I think it may be possible.
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the carrier has to be willing to also flash/change a bunch of items on the phone itself (which they arent anymore really). to do this, you have to have a expensive piece of software ($99) to even complete the process.
Zepius said:
the carrier has to be willing to also flash/change a bunch of items on the phone itself (which they arent anymore really). to do this, you have to have a expensive piece of software ($99) to even complete the process.
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These guys here have made progress. From what I read, phone and text work fine on other carriers, but they are still working on data.
@Zepius @efrant, dunno if it will work or not...but it is a start.
many thanks to you guys...and xda

Can someone explain what is happening when a third-party service unlocks a phone?

I just got a new Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 from a third-party retailer. I assumed based on the new(ish) FCC ruling that Sprint would have to carrier unlock the phone. I was wrong; they're refusing. I've read that a lot of people are having success with third-party services that you can pay to have your phone unlocked. Can someone point me to an explanation of what is actually happening when these services are successful? Is something being modified with the phone? With the OS? Is a carrier database being updated? I searched the web pretty thoroughly and couldn't get an answer.
Bageland2000 said:
I just got a new Sprint Samsung Galaxy S6 from a third-party retailer. I assumed based on the new(ish) FCC ruling that Sprint would have to carrier unlock the phone. I was wrong; they're refusing. I've read that a lot of people are having success with third-party services that you can pay to have your phone unlocked. Can someone point me to an explanation of what is actually happening when these services are successful? Is something being modified with the phone? With the OS? Is a carrier database being updated? I searched the web pretty thoroughly and couldn't get an answer.
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It varies per company, which one were you looking into?
Sprint
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Sprint
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I mean, which third party unlocking service? But Sprint by "law" should unlock it for you. Go into your local Corporate store and ask. If not, call customer service be ready to provide your imei, serial, etc.
ChubbbySquish said:
I mean, which third party unlocking service? But Sprint by "law" should unlock it for you. Go into your local Corporate store and ask. If not, call customer service be ready to provide your imei, serial, etc.
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I used one from eBay which worked fine. They stated that since I never had the phone on their service they weren't required to unlock it. Whatever, I'm frustrated but there was nothing I could do...
Bageland2000 said:
I used one from eBay which worked fine. They stated that since I never had the phone on their service they weren't required to unlock it. Whatever, I'm frustrated but there was nothing I could do...
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Well, that's true man, if you're going through them and want to switch, then they would legally have to. Anyway, basically it varies company by company phone by phone. CDMA and GSM networks are very different in the way that a CDMA gets reprogrammed, and GSM just needs a "special" code when you put a new sim card in, and you're golden. There's so many things different for a variety of phones. Hope I helped a little, I apologize about the sprint issue. Have a wonderful day!
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Well, that's true man, if you're going through them and want to switch, then they would legally have to. Anyway, basically it varies company by company phone by phone. CDMA and GSM networks are very different in the way that a CDMA gets reprogrammed, and GSM just needs a "special" code when you put a new sim card in, and you're golden. There's so many things different for a variety of phones. Hope I helped a little, I apologize about the sprint issue. Have a wonderful day!
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You too, thanks!
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You too, thanks!
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Absolutely buddy, anytime.

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