Is their any differences between this phone and the Tmobile one besides all of the proprietary software?
Besides the CDMA/GSM radio and a slightly different CPU (7600 vs 7200, since the 7600 is required to use CDMA. they are the same speed and etc.), no not really. The only proprietary stuff on the Verizon version is VZ Navigator and the visual voicemail app.
One thing to check, though, is the provider website for 3G coverage. I won't get TMobile because it has vast holes in 3G in Indiana. Verizon doesn't.
The CDMA TP2s have a 3.5mm jack, so that's one edge that the VZW version has over the T-Mobile version.
The Verizon version also keeps the styling of the European/WWE of the Touch Pro 2.
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Just as the title asks, has anyone been able to unlock their Sprint Touch Pro 2, since Verizon's isnt out yet, to work on a US GSM carrier such as AT&T or T-Mobile?
Are the bands on the CDMA TP2s compatible with any of the 3G GSM networks, such as the 850/1700/1900/2100?
I just hate the fact that the GSM TP2s dont come with the 3.5mm headjack, but I wont bother with the CDMA TP2s if they cant work on a 3G GSM network.
Thanks!
Daniel
from the specs that ive found online, especifically the "insanely detailed review" that comes up when doing a google serch for sprint thouch pro 2 review. the cdma version will only support edge speeds.
I tried a canadian CDMA TP2 on a canadian GSM provider and only saw the E icon too. I'm in Oz now and have H full time. There are some radio settings in the GSM section of the phone options that I am gonna play with when I get home to see if it makes any difference. But it looks like it doesnt support 3G speeds in NA. Maybe after hard-spl, maybe radios simply missing?
I used my unlocked Telus TP2 with AT&T when I roam in the states. My device is unlocked and I have an AT&T SIM card. The sad thing as is noted 3G does not work.... gotta get that thing to work in future fixes.
Hardware issues
It is a hardware issue and will never be fixed. Our crappy US companies force HTC to cripple devices to try to limit our choice of phones we use on their networks!
Exactly what cellular radios does this phone [Telus TP2] have?
My carrier [Telus] has recently completed their 3G overlay, and I'm still showing "EV".
Should I be talking to them about fixing this, or...?
It was (is?) my understanding that this phone was fully 3G capable.
Can someone help me with this?
As far as I can tell, my phone should support the Telus overlay of HSPA on their CDMA network, however I'm showing "EV" an my network type on the notification bar.
I visited a Telus store, and talked to a rep, who just babbled to me about how my SIM was "registered" as a CDMA phone, and therefore I couldn't use HSPA.
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Thoughts?
EDIT: The rep also fed me this convoluted bullsh*t about how when I'm roaming, I'll be able to be on HSPA networks, so I'll get better bandwidth roaming than on my home network...
Wow no one knows the answer to this?
I've searched, and there's no answer, per se, just descriptions of Telus' technology and the antennae in the TP2, which seems to indicate that the TP2 should be able to get on the Telus HSPA network...
I have a SIM-unlocked Telus Touch Pro2 I bought off Craigslist, figuring it'd be good to go when the HSPA network rolled out (Only four months later!). As I understand it, the telus model can make and receive calls on quad-band GSM frequencies, but only use EDGE speeds for data. Has to do with the firmware for the chipset inside the phone. The only HSPA 3G band the phone can use is 2100 Mhz, which is the bad used in Europe, not Canada. It's a major piss-off, especially when a month ago the stores made this out to be the top-of-the-line phone, perfect for ever and ever.
It would seem that should Telus decide to plug in some firmware upgrades, they could activate the new 3G bands, but why bother? We've already signed away our souls to the company.
Who knows, maybe they'll fix it when they release Windows 6.5 for our rig. Because that's on the top of the to-do list, right?
Well there are new radios that we could flash...would that change anything?
Now I may be misinformed but I think that the Telus version is a CMDA phone with GSM capabilites on some frequencies. I do not think it will work on HSPA in Canada as they use different frequencies (850 and 1900). This is why so many people were waiting for the ATT version to come out as it uses those frequencies.
Remember GSM does not equal 3G.
What I would like to know is whether the distinction between 3G and GSM is on the hardware side, firmware side, or software side. Telus would have you assume it's all the hardware's fault, but I'm not sure on that one.
From everything I have read its the chip in the phone that isnt programmed/capable of doing the frequencies required. It may actually be a second chip but I cant confirm that. Other posts have stated that there wont be a software fix to "unlock the frequencies" needed.
GSM is a cellular line and 3G is a data connection.
I just purchased an At&t Tilt 2 unlocked for use on Telus 3G+ network. The Telus Touch Pro 2 is a CDMA , Quadband GSRM and UMTS/HSDPA 2100. The Telus TP2 will only work with EVDO data on the Telus network. If you unlock it for use with Rogers it will work on GSRM with Edge data. That is why I have ordered the At&t Tilt 2. Unfortunately Telus won't honour my unlimited data plan and say it is only for EVDO and that I have to change to one of their current plans to have HSDPA. Like all of the networks, they get your money one way or the other. I'm pleased that with the Tilt 2 I am free to switch providers here in Canada and still get 3G as well as when I travel in Europe.
So I have a Touch Pro2 on my personal T-Mobile account. My company has issued me a iPhone for my work phone. Which they pay for 100%. My question is if I unlock my Touch Pro2 and put my sim card from my iPhone in the TP2 will AT&T change my data plan to a PDA one? Since I do not pay my company phone bill I don't want to do anything to change that plan or add more money to it without permission. By the way the iPhone is mine so if I leave the company I take it with me. So I want to get the Touch Pro2 to work on my company line so I can sell the iPhone pocket some cash and cancel my personal line.
At&T data plans
the iphone plan and the PDA plan are completely different features and are not cross compatible. If the company bought you an iphone, in order to make the internet work on the TP2 you will have to have the feature changed out, if it is the company's account, you may not have that access to make the change, and internet won't work until it is changed.
You dont need a pda plan to use a unlocked touch pro 2 from tmobile i have one and im on att, the tmobile version doesnt register on the att network so the most they can charge is the lowest data plan. as far as your plan the iphone plan is probably the only plan that doesnt change on its own, although if you put the sim in your touch pro 2 youll still get data and still be charger the iphone plan. but remember your only get edge dta speeds with a unlocked version.
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but remember your only get edge dta speeds with a unlocked version.
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So the T-Mo Touch Pro2 doesn't work on AT&T 3G?
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So the T-Mo Touch Pro2 doesn't work on AT&T 3G?
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That is correct. Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT. I got a Tmobile TP2 and unlocked it to use on ATT so that they couldnt take away my $19 unlimited data plan. the Edge radio works and thats fast enough for what I use the phone for.
I have tp2 on att network also but i cant connect to aim or any instant messaging programs what should i do. I configured the settings to connect to the internet and it works.but i cant use aim,yahoo,and myspace im.
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That is correct. Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT. I got a Tmobile TP2 and unlocked it to use on ATT so that they couldnt take away my $19 unlimited data plan. the Edge radio works and thats fast enough for what I use the phone for.
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Well seeing as how my previous company phone was BlackBerry Curve running edge I don't think it would be entirely a problem.
Is it faster or slower?
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Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT
How different? Is T-Mobile chip is faster than AT&T chip or slower? If I'm with T-Mobile TP2 phone and AT&T service what will happen if I'll flash the latest AT&T stock radio on the T-Mobile phone?
3G on TP2 w/AT&T
Is there any way to get the 3G to work on my TP2 (unlocked T-mobile)with my at&t 3G sim card ??? It is so f***ing slow!
Please don't tell me that I have to buy Tilt 2 to have it work!
Buy a Tilt 2.
I just got Tilt 2!
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Tmobile TP2 has different 3G radio hardware than ATT
How different? Is T-Mobile chip is faster than AT&T chip or slower? If I'm with T-Mobile TP2 phone and AT&T service what will happen if I'll flash the latest AT&T stock radio on the T-Mobile phone?
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You're taken care of now, but just for the record, the TMo and ATT 3G services propagate over different frequencies. The 3G radio in the TMo phone is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over TMo's frequencies, and the Tilt2 is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over ATT's frequencies. It's not a question of which chip is faster, but rather which chip can access which carrier's 3G frequency.
Most GSM phones have quad-band edge, meaning they can access edge-speed data on most carriers. But most branded GSM phones have only their particular carrier's 3g band.
Flashing the ATT ROM onto the TMo phone won't affect the speed of the 3g radio, as it is a hardware difference, not a software difference.
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You're taken care of now, but just for the record, the TMo and ATT 3G services propagate over different frequencies. The 3G radio in the TMo phone is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over TMo's frequencies, and the Tilt2 is tuned to transmit/receive 3G info over ATT's frequencies. It's not a question of which chip is faster, but rather which chip can access which carrier's 3G frequency.
Most GSM phones have quad-band edge, meaning they can access edge-speed data on most carriers. But most branded GSM phones have only their particular carrier's 3g band.
Flashing the ATT ROM onto the TMo phone won't affect the speed of the 3g radio, as it is a hardware difference, not a software difference.
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Thanks, I figured it will be easy to buy Tilt 2
damn it !!!
So are u saying that my tmobile phone will never work on ATT with 3G?? this is CRAP! if there is no hardware difference why cant there be a workaround ? radio related maybe to unable the phone to use ATT 3g frequency???
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So are u saying that my tmobile phone will never work on ATT with 3G?? this is CRAP! if there is no hardware difference why cant there be a workaround ? radio related maybe to unable the phone to use ATT 3g frequency???
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TMOBILE HTC Touch PRO 2 has different hardware -meant to read "band" specifically for Tmobile's 3g.
ATT TILT 2 has hardware specific for ATTs 3g network.
You can use Tmobile phones on ATT using Edge..but you will never get to ATTs 3g network. You simply just dont have the hardware. It's just like buying a phone that has not internal GPS chip and no matter how you flash it or add/remove software, you simply can't use the turn-by-turn navi software (unless you use an external bluetooth device).
Additionally, anyone know about the radio compatibility of a HTC branded TP2? I purchased mine already unlocked, and not sure if I can get 3G from ATT or not...
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Additionally, anyone know about the radio compatibility of a HTC branded TP2? I purchased mine already unlocked, and not sure if I can get 3G from ATT or not...
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The int'l unlocked version is edge only on ATT.
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The int'l unlocked version is edge only on ATT.
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Yup, that is exactly what I feared...Good to know, and I Think mine will end up on Craigslist before long.
the reason the 3G wont work is because the 2 carriers use different basebands for service. While they both have 3G capabilites, ATT uses 850 and 1900 and Tmobile uses 1700 and 2100... it may have changed but i know thats what it used to be. It is the same reason that (forgive me for mentioning the dang thing) the iphone 3G wont work on tmobile, it will only work at EDGE speeds.
Hi!
I'm considering buying a HTC TP2 from USA. I'm from Portugal...
1 - Does this device work on Europe?
2 - I saw 3 versions: Verizon, Sprint and T-Mobile wich one is the best?
3- Any diferences between this network branded devices and the HTC TP2 "OEM"?
Thanks
Im from Sweden and im considering doing this myself.
The operator versions have nicer looking keyboards and 3.5mm jack wich is a plus for more.
I dont know about the rest but the verizon version has cdma wich is something that only works in usa but also a sim slot for global roaming so i think it will work.
Theres lots of info on youtube about the different versions.
heres a comparisson between all the US versions.
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1931&id2=2016&id3=1792&id4=1829
Pay attention to the UMTS bands and compare that to what your local network supports.
They should all be able to do voice and EDGE data but not sure about HSDPA or 3G.
Also only the CDMA versions have the 3.5mm headset jack.
i believe the sprint version is the only CDMA model that is sim unlocked out of the box
the battery cover is ugly though
Hey Everyone!
Quick question for you, i just switched to Sprint from T-Mobile and i got the HTC One M8 and i had the same phone from T-Mobile. Is there any Difference between the two cause i noticed on the sprint version that it says Model # 831 amd T-mobiles doesnt say model. Was just curious if there is anything different i donbt there is though
Different hardware, the T-Mobile version does not have the hardware required to work on Sprint's CDMA network.
The Sprint and Verizon versions of the M8 are CDMA, and are the oddballs. All "GSM" versions of the M8 are essentially the same in hardware, and just have different band support determined in software. Exception being the obvious cosmetic differences such as available colors, and some carrier logos on the back of the phone. Other exception being the dual SIM GSM variant.