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Opera 9.33 Beta version

Download it from here (free registration required)
Will be posting a review soon. If you want to see the review of NetFront's new version, read this.
Regards,
Carty..

9,5 beta already exists.

When will you be posting the review?

I think NetFront is a little better but Im not 100% sure with these beta versions. In Opera some links were not opening but I felt very comfortable with NetFront. Read NetFront' review here (including video)
Regards,
Carty..

Yeah, I saw that one in the first post. Thank for the review of Netfront.
But now I'm looking forward to your Opera review.
Considering that Opera is a pre-alpha or something while Netfront is an actual official beta(?), if Netfront comes out only slightly ahead of Opera, then I'm guessing that the final version of Opera, where bugs and stuff are fixed and features are properly implemented, will beat Netfront
Semi-OT: I'm intrigued by the memory usage section of your Netfront review. I wonder if Opera is better at handling multiple "tabs".

Hmmm .... 9.5 Beta has no text rendering as Opera Mini 4 does .... am I missing something or is it cause it is beta version. The performance is not bad, though again Mini 4 is much faster and lighter on memory. I hope at least that 9.5 will bring some power browsing features integrated.

I dont get why everyone harps on about Opera and Netfront, etc. and hates PIE. I have PIE Plus installed along with the PIE slow scroll fix and it run like a dream.... full desktop browsing, multiple tabs, fast scrolling with both scrollbars and finger scrolling, reasonable memory consumption, I just dont really see the problem with PIE.

EazyVG said:
Hmmm .... 9.5 Beta has no text rendering as Opera Mini 4 does
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What do you mean? The text wrapping? I saw a video of the UIQ version, and it actually did the text wrapping thing so text blocks could be viewed without horizontal scrolling.
The performance is not bad, though again Mini 4 is much faster and lighter on memory.
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Opera Mini is a 100K Java app which doesn' handle the page rendering itself. Most of the hard work is done by a server. Opera Mobile is a full, standalone browser which does everything on your phone.

Carty said:
Download it from here (free registration required)
Will be posting a review soon. If you want to see the review of NetFront's new version, read this.
Regards,
Carty..
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Any news on an Opera review?

I don't think I can write a review of Opera' pre-release version. NetFront pre-release was much more complete or close to their final release. Opera hasn't officially made this version available for test/review and the leaked version seems to have poor performance, poor navigation (no easy menu access and almost no way to exit the application). Hope their final version is much improved to compete.
Regards,
Carty..

[APP] Opera Mini With WVGA Touch HD Support, NEW VERSION

Aloha,
Version Opera Mini v4.2.13216 - 20081124
Found a working Opera Mini WVGA version for the Touch HD!
http://rapidshare.com/files/181737253/Opera_Mini_Final4.2.cab
New version... Opera Mini v4.2.13337 - 20081205
http://rapidshare.com/files/184240714/Opera_Mini_4.2.13337.cab
The following registry settings control the font sizes for apps running in JBed:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Apps\Esmertec Java\Device Info\Java Font]
"Size Large"="26"
"Size Medium"="20"
"Size Small"="16"
Still the version i like, fast, clean and small
Have a nice weekend

i'm still annoyed, that firefox isn't available for pda's...
but thx for up

I found the standard 4.2 from mini.opera.com to work o.k. on the Touch HD. What's so special about this one?

billu said:
I found the standard 4.2 from mini.opera.com to work o.k. on the Touch HD. What's so special about this one?
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Nothing i think.... or... just try...

Doesn't the HD already come with the Opera browser?

whereSTheFUhd?! said:
Doesn't the HD already come with the Opera browser?
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yes
But i like the Opera Mini more... (faster, smarter, feeds support with remote sync etc) this version is with bigger Font Size so it's running ok on a 800x400 screen.

So the Opera browser that comes preinstalled on the HD isn't Opera Mini? It's not Opera Mobile, right? I thought the HD utilizes a full HTML browser...

whereSTheFUhd?! said:
So the Opera browser that comes preinstalled on the HD isn't Opera Mini? It's not Opera Mobile, right? I thought the HD utilizes a full HTML browser...
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Nope....
This version has WVGA support... !!!!

Excellent! You've saved my eye sight!!
Thanks.

whereSTheFUhd?! said:
So the Opera browser that comes preinstalled on the HD isn't Opera Mini? It's not Opera Mobile, right? I thought the HD utilizes a full HTML browser...
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the opera 9.5 that comes with the hd is opera mobile, a standalone executable program, which is a full html browser. opera mini is a java applet that runs within a java environment, and used to have limitations. maybe newer versions of opera mini have more functionality??

SatScan said:
Aloha,
Found a working Opera Mini WVGA version for the Touch HD!
http://rapidshare.com/files/181737253/Opera_Mini_Final4.2.cab
Still the version i like, fast, clean and small
Have a nice weekend
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HI,
Please can you attache the cab here? because it is not possible for me to download it from rapidshare.

miannaeemd said:
HI,
Please can you attache the cab here? because it is not possible for me to download it from rapidshare.
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Sorry i can't... rules...

Cool, works well thanks.
Very fast at loading pages, with nice sliding transitions. The rendering's less accurate compared to 'big' Opera though.

Pros / Cons
I use both the browsers, in my view Opera Mini is far superior though, but with faults. Opera Mobile which comes on the HD is good when it works and you have a fast connection (WiFI or strong HSdPA). I believe Opera Mini uses pre rendered pages from Opera so is very fast, yes the transitions are nice. It has speed-links like Opera on your PC and can handle pretty much all pages I've ever tried to load. Opera mobile sometimes messes up pages with forms, for example, using tfl.gov.uk is so fast on opera mini, nearly impossible on opera mobile. File downloads are fine in Opera Mini as it can access the file directories on the HD, the download manager is maybe not as good as on Opera Mobile though, stop-resume etc..
Opera mini doesn't have tabs though.. one page only, a couple of times it can hang, you need to mess around with it so it doesn't ask each time if it is allowed to access the data connection, leave it running in the background and it can struggle to find connection again without restarting Opera Mini. Also you have to load it through JAVA (from a list of other Java programs you might have on your HD, GMAIL etc..) unless anyone knows how to give it it's own direct shortcut?? Also it's not integrated with TF3D like opera mobile.
I use 4.2 direct from Opera, fine but yes the menus are small, but still quite easy to press. Sounds like there is a WVGA version now. Perhaps in the next version (4.3?) this will be the ultimate browser.
I'll carry on with both for now

SatScan said:
Nope....
This version has WVGA support... !!!!
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ummm .. so what dose that mean ..
what is the WVGA and what is the WVGA support ??
<< newbie hehe

Can someone post the information of opera mini installed from this cab ???
Menu > tools > help > about i think...
I got the version 4.2.13337
In fact the WVGA support comes from jbed and not opera mini... i mean this is what i thought.
Ciao
Fred

got version 4.2.13216 here
and it works a treat.

Error message
When launching Opera Mini from Java, I get Error indication on the top bar
This happens when the CAB is installed in either SD card or Storage
What's wrong?
Thanks

matthoy said:
got version 4.2.13216 here
and it works a treat.
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I got this one before i think... but 'im quite sure the WVGA support does not come from opera mini but from the version of jbed you got.. you shoudl have the 20081205.5.1 version or soemthing like that. There was a post here for that version, supporting VGA and WVGA in fact.
Ciao
Fred

When launching Opera Mini from Java, I get Error indication on the top bar
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go to add remove programmes and remove the previous version of OPERA-MINI then install the cab attached on page one of this thread.
it should work nicely then.
re versions :the text size is now spot on. accept no immitations, this is the real internet in your pocket and no mistake. lovely and fast too, loads the times homepage in about 8 seconds compared to opere mobile's 30 seconds.
well handy. it has to be said.

New IrisBrowser The Opera Killer?

the new release of IrisBrowser is out with FlashLite support
and using webkit.
It's faster than Opera in my first tests.
Looks very promising now.
http://www.irisbrowser.com/download/download3.php
What do you think?

cheers for the heads up - downloading now - sounds promising.

Tested with the Official FlashLite 3.1 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483240

yes really nice browser but the navigation could be more intuitive. but i think he works great and fast and thats it

Fast? Are you sure... it seems to be uite slow in loading. The operation is fast, and scrolling once loaded nice... but nothing special.

iris is pretty slow over gprs but not bad on wifi, it does however render much better than any other mobile browser..

Iris, Opera, Skyfire
I like the opera for the nice smooth look around in websites thing.. And iris is nice animations between wesite changes it like fades but it seems its kinda the same as opera to showing websites.. But it can´t show every website with flash content.. And i found a browser that can do it.. Skyfire new release now for Touch HD with wvga screen.. It takes all sites flash content and everything.. It is also fastest browser of them all.. Im not sure about if it works with edge.. I only have 3g and HSDPA.. In mobile browser type "get.skyfire.com" like internet explorer, opera diddent work for me to download skyfire in.

jalv3000 said:
the new release of IrisBrowser is out with FlashLite support
and using webkit.
It's faster than Opera in my first tests.
Looks very promising now.
http://www.irisbrowser.com/download/download3.php
What do you think?
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I just tried version 1.0.1.6. a few days ago. Is this the same version or newer than that?

this one is 1.1....really nice.

iplayer on iris
bbc iplayer doesnt even work on it so how is it good

Had tried out almost every release in the past, and this version is a big improvement over the past's. It is better than I have expected, but is still not good enough. I can't download file correctly, just see garbage on the screen. Just like Opera, it cause havoc to smart keyboard such as Tengo and TouchPal.
One nice thing that it excel over Opera is that it has shows a miniaturised webpage with a red rectangle representing the currently view area, and you're able to drag that red rectangle around to quickly move from one part of the web page to another other part quickly. I wish Opera Mobile can do that rather than having to swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe....swipe, swipe....swipe.
I like the fact that just like Opera Mobile, you can double tap to zoom in and out.
Yes, I think the rendering is slightly better than Opera Mobile but not as good as Opera Mini.
Speed wise, I rank them as Opera Mini being the fastest, Opera Mobile second, and Iris Browser last.
Still prefere Opera (both Opera mobile and Opera mini). Have been using Opera Mini lately and begin to prefer it over Opera Mobile.
But, I can see that given time this could be improved to an extend worthy of contending against Opera.

I prefer Netfront cos : in Iris the keyboard don't appear when you're in a textbox, and the doubletap to zoom is painful because when you want to tap on a button, it's so hard than you double tap everytime.

eaglesteve said:
Had tried out almost every release in the past, and this version is a big improvement over the past's. It is better than I have expected, but is still not good enough. I can't download file correctly, just see garbage on the screen. Just like Opera, it cause havoc to smart keyboard such as Tengo and TouchPal.
One nice thing that it excel over Opera is that it has shows a miniaturised webpage with a red rectangle representing the currently view area, and you're able to drag that red rectangle around to quickly move from one part of the web page to another other part quickly. I wish Opera Mobile can do that rather than having to swipe, swipe, swipe, swipe....swipe, swipe....swipe.
I like the fact that just like Opera Mobile, you can double tap to zoom in and out.
Yes, I think the rendering is slightly better than Opera Mobile but not as good as Opera Mini.
Speed wise, I rank them as Opera Mini being the fastest, Opera Mobile second, and Iris Browser last.
Still prefere Opera (both Opera mobile and Opera mini). Have been using Opera Mini lately and begin to prefer it over Opera Mobile.
But, I can see that given time this could be improved to an extend worthy of contending against Opera.
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I agree with this. Opera mmini offers the best "net experience" smooth and fast. Not perfect, though.
Does anyone know if it is capable of multiple pages or tabs?

jalv3000 said:
Tested with the Official FlashLite 3.1 from here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483240
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I've installed both Iris Browser (like it!) and Flash Lite 3.1 from this link above but flash contents won't show up on my HD - just a white screen ... what do I have to do?
Eriol

i tried this out today on wifi and also on HSPDA and i much prefer the opera browser then this one, its just not as fast for lookin at things on the internet, its not as easy to go and click on things, or work your way around the page.
i have yet to try flash properly on my htc HD, the only way i have used it so far was with skyfire (new wvga version).
anyone prefer this browser?

I really love this browser.... simple and easy to use.....

Hello
For me I like it a lot it's fast and the zoom is working well
It's supporting the landcaspe...
personnaly I'm converted

just tried 1.1.1. it's not bad but needs some work. Zoom in /out + scrolling around is slow compared to Opera (build 15529), switching between tabs is fiddly (you have to go into the menu to switch, no fast button like Opera), address bar is tiny (and keeps hiding itself) plus it's a memory hog (or it has a memory leak - had to reboot my phone after surfing just one website).
to summarise, it's promising but still needs quite a bit of work.

New version available 1.1.3
http://www.torchmobile.com/blog/

jalv3000 said:
New version available 1.1.3
http://www.torchmobile.com/blog/
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Thanks for the info
installed working great

Opera Mobile 9.5 Beta2 With Gears Support Build 15894

Opera Mobile 9.5 beta with gears support Build 15894 features:
Faster:
Speed tests show Opera Mobile 9.5 beta loads Web pages 2.5 times faster than Internet Explorer Mobile.
Pan and zoom:
Opera Mobile 9.5 defaults to full Web page viewing and allows users to pan and zoom into their desired content in just a few clicks.
Improved user interface:
Opera has completely renovated its user interface. Cleaner and more intuitive, the new UI is designed for quick and easy navigation.
Opera Dragonfly:
It's a developer's toolkit right on the mobile phone.
Improved standards support:
Opera Mobile 9.5 is the most standards compliant browser available. Opera Software remains steadfast in its commitment to make the Web accessible for all.
Save pages and/or images:
With a click, simply save your selected content and view it later offline.
A true Web experience:
Multitask with tabbed browsing, view content in widescreen, and enjoy small-screen rendering.
Rich Web content:
Browse with the full richness of AJAX.
Type less and browse more:
Manager and pop-up haSave time with address auto-complete, Passwordndler.
History and bookmarks:
Pick up past browsing sessions and bookmark them for next time.
Upload contents:
Upload to Web sites such as online mail services or blogs.
Gears-enabled technical preview!!
Touchscreen-based devices only. Visit http://gears.google.com to download the Gears plugin for Opera Mobile (Last updated: 19. 2. 2009).
Opera Mobile 9.5 beta known issues
# ActiveX is disabled - Flash plugins and embedded video streaming do not work.
# Custom software keyboards (IME) will be buggy at best, not working at worst.
# No multilingual build - Only English is supported. Problems with other languages (and input methods) are not unexpected.
# Installation on memory cards may cause problems.
# Text wraps in overview mode.
# Main testing has been done on English HTC devices (Touch Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch, Touch Dual, Touch Cruise, TyTN and Wizard) and Samsung i900.
# Landscape mode does not take keyboard position into consideration.
# Devices with low memory might get Out Of Memory (OOM) messages.
# Opera is always running when the Widgets Manager is running.
# On devices with hight DPI some of the pre-installed widgets look small.
# When an URL is opened from a widget, there will be an extra browser window opened in the background that's not working properly.
Download link
http://rapidshare.com/files/200677536/Opera.v9.5.beta.2.Gears.cab
Drop a line what do you think about this version!
I tied myself with wire
To let the HD run free
Playing with the HD
Until the HD played with me
Grtz,

does this version replace the preinstalled opera version?

To be replaced or not... thats the question
Yes, till you do a Hard-Reset....
I was punching in the numbers at the ATM machine
I could see in the reflection
A face staring back at me
At the moment of surrender
Grtz,
the-virus said:
does this version replace the preinstalled opera version?
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installed it on my device but it seems like the setup didn't replaced anything. no i have do different versions off opera installed on my device

I tried to update it manually by extracting and copying just Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe over my existing installation, but it doesn't work. What files do I need to copy to get it work?

Hi
Would test it later... make now a backup
Here is offical
download link -> Opera Mobile 9.5 beta 2
MadKai

but its still slower than opera mini

muciaq said:
but its still slower than opera mini
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opera mini is out of the league if you after speed only or using gprs internet, stick to it.

muciaq said:
but its still slower than opera mini
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Your comparing apples to oranges guy.

so it still doesn't work well with cistom sip. while the page is loading it does,t scroll and pan properly.
any build dump from devices?

wow, this version look REALLY awesome!! the speed is just phenomenal!
this is probably already known, but the deault windows mobile sip always popps up when editing texts, instead of the htc sip. can anything be done with this?
EDIT:
you said this version has no multilingual support. this is great for me (for compatibility purposes) and i might want to do that with other builds too. can you tell me how you removed that support? or is it just inside the build, and that's the way it came?

i have created a workaround for the default keyboard issue popping up.
what you need to do is just disable the "Keyboard" sip, and the opera wouldn't be able to use it anymore, thus not changing your selected sip.
note you wouldn't be able to use the "Keyboard" sip anymore, until you uninstall the workaround.
tested on touch pro only.
just install and SR after.
enjoy.
mirror: http://www.fileflyer.com/view/Ca6xoBF

this version dosent have the scrrol bar to change the size of the page ??
and also - how can i make it the defult in the 3dtf ? ssma dosent work......( duttys rom extream - htc hd)
tnx 4 your work !!
daniel

Hey guys,
I installed this beta and tried to use SSMaPa to replace the Opera icons and what-not on TouchFLO however it has back fired badly. My Opera now does not seem to load properly at all, can I unstall the Opera that comes pre-installed and replace it with the new Beta? Thanks in advance.

Any help on this?

Just install the new version
Ola,
Just install the new version ignore any error msg. Softreset en run Opera. If opera is allready there you got now 2 seperated versions
That's works for me.
And for you... Fingers-x
Let us know if it works or not.
Grtz,
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Any help on this?
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Odd that now Opera (default) has taken over the Beta so I don't have the Beta at all. Can I remove Opera from the system and then use the Beta?

Windows Media plug-in?
With other versions of Opera I have been able to stream and listen to Windows Media content through embedded plug-ins on webpages. With this version the plug-in is replaced with the text "Plug-in content" and nothing happens.
Anyone got any clue as of how I might fix this?
Thanks

Hi,
Is there any trick for having the zoom wheel enabled on HTC Touch Pro / Raphael?
Thx.

I am also very interested in the flash plugin. In the original opera on the HD I could play flash contents as I had installed flashlite 3.1. However with this beta version I just get the placeholder "plugin content". If I go to "Settings / Advanced" the "Enable Plugins" box is checked.
Would really appreciate if anyone could come up with a workaround.
Regards

[new !!!!] opera mobile 10

Opera has just released Opera Mini 10 for WindowsPhones (cab).
[WWE :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1.cab
[RU :] http://get.opera.com/pub/opera/winmobile/1000b1/Opera_Mobile_10_WM_beta_1_ru.cab

This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread

AxlR said:
This is Opera Mini not Opera Mobile like in the Thread
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When i loaded it, the screen shows opera mobile 10. Not opera mini.

Anyone tried this yet? Does zooming work with the TP2 slider?

Pardon my ignorance, what's the difference between WWE and RU?

WWE - World Wide English
RU - Russian (I think?)

More info here: http://www.downloadsquad.com/2009/11/18/opera-10-beta-for-windows-mobile-released/

Some observations:
-page load times are impressive
-interface looks clean and modern (has a Safari feel to it)
-quickdial page is a good idea, but not intuitive to customize.
-tabs management is pretty and works well
-zoombar doesn't work natively
-screen rotates only on keyboard slideout, not with g-sensor.(I suppose this can be solved with g-sensor utility programs)
-no precise zooming. You're either zoomed in or out. No in between. And you can't zoom further in.
-no more realtime text reflow. Text are formatted into columns so they can be read zoomed in.
-vertical scrolling is not locked. That is, when you scroll vertically to read a column of text, sometimes your scrolling may be off to one side. In v9.5 and 9.7, this slight horizontal movement is ignored intelligently. This isn't the case for v10
-can't disable java-script
-the browser occupies the whole screen. You won't even have access to your Start Menu and taskbar.

I like the feel of the new browser
personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,

buffalosolja42 said:
personally its more finger friendly for me and just looks better,
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I must say i agree, one question. How to stop it going to mobile websites. The Configpera trick does not work on the 10. Drives me nuts when going to mobile view for example google or youtube.

I second that call. How do we change the Browser String ID?

It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....

it is not work on my LG KS20, WM6.0

RussBaker said:
It crashed twice on me within the first 10 minutes! So I then un-installed it, only to realise I no longer had Opera 9.7!!! I Hard-reset to get it back, but is there a cab for 9.7 and will it still link to the internet tab on TF3d?
I liked the look, but still didn't find it as fast as Opera Mini, even with the Turbo mode....
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Same problem...
When opera mobile 10 uninstalled it breaks the link in the TF3D to opera mobile 9.5. I now have it linked to IE...
Not sure how to get it back to opera mobile 9.5

anyone got flash working yet? movies?
no flash love here VZW TP2 running stock 6.1ROM

The officials *.cab for Opera Mobile 9.5 & Opera Mobile 9.7 are on official Opera's website. (www.opera.com)

Can someone tell me how to bring-in/import my current Opera bookmarks?
In 9.x versions I could copy "opera6.adr" (which I keep archived on my sd card) to the Opera9 folder under Windows, but copying that file to anywhere in the Opera10 folder under Programs didn't seem to work.

it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .

Zylograth said:
it's a BETA, stop expecting full version stability and features. . .
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Isn't it OK to at least mention bugs? Or is not not permitted?
Since when is "just-use-it-or-not-but-just-keep-quiet" the XDA policy?

MCbrian, you're welcome sharing with us your point of view about Opera and what you liked and what you liked less.