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Hi,
I am sorry if this has been covered in old posts but i am getting no where with o2 and the other UK operators.
I am due an upgrade with o2 now but i want to wait until XDAs have WM6 on them, Does anyone know what the first XDA will be released with WM6? When it will be released? Or will it ever be released? as O2 do not have a clue.
If any of the other network operators are bringing out there versions with WM6 the same questions apply as i will just move phone operators.
Any help would be greatly appreciated

i thought windows mobile 6 wasnt coming out till november? i might be wrong as i havent been on top of wm lately (im a symbian guy myself)

Not sure myself

I know Orange are releasing the SPV E650 in April. However it runs WM6 Standard and not professional (i.e. its a smartphone not a Pocket PC).
Would guess Pocket PC's should follow soon after but there are still quite a few WM5 based devices scheduled for a release.
Would say the best bet would be to hold on but if your iching to upgrade (i know i would be) then I would suggest getting a Hermes based device. I would say that it's one of the best HTC devices currently available and people are cooking WM6 ROMs on it already!!! Its also rumoured to be one of the few devices that will eventually have an official WM6 update.
S.K.

Sure u all know but Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on APRIL 1st

Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu

1 April.
Hmmmmm.
Not to sound cynical but.........1 April.......

I am an ADMIN and I handle frontpage news at theHotfix.net so I do my research i have my sources and OBVIOUSLY I use other news sources, this seems legit, its NOT offical from MS, but a credible source from within MS says thats the date, I dunno, I posted it on my SITE

Hmm. So what do they know about the hard reset issue that nobody else does? April 1?

April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!

nicknowsky said:
Windows Mobile 6.1 to be released on 1 April
(I Read Bink.nu daily so thats where I got the news from, Bink is truly the most credible MS news man in all of the Land)
Pocket-lint has learnt from sources close to the matter that Microsoft will announce the much-rumoured refresh to its mobile phone operating system, Windows Mobile, on 1 April 2008.
An improvement over Windows Mobile 6 released in February 2007 the new version, unsurprisingly named 6.1, will be a stop-gap measure to keep both consumers and industry happy until the launch of Windows Mobile 7.
Leaked screenshots of 6.1 have already done the rounds in the blogosphere, and show the system has been simplified with the screens displaying less mess than the Vista-inspired version 6.
Source: Bink.nu
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Yeap, but it is the Smartphone edition.. doesn't work for us yet...

I read about it two days ago. I think the article was on www.forteplace.com or something like that.

THE Original SOURCE that Bink used as his news source was POCKET LINT
here is the article http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/news.phtml/13612/14636/windows-mobile-61-coming-april.phtml

Fallen Spartan said:
April 1st release date. Could be a foolish day!!
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ha ha i didnt think about that, you're quick on draw Spartan

Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?

t-readyroc said:
Moto Q9 running it here. I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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Yeah, I'm a bit confused by this "news". I've been running 6.1 for a while now (thanks to this forum), but for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1. So in what way was it not already released a while back?

raburton said:
..... for a while now if you bought a tytn2 from orange it'd come with 6.1.
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thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet,. but then again, if we really cared about official, we wont be here in xda devs would we

XtreMe_G said:
thats not true, all the tytn2 6.1 version are from leak roms.....there is no "official" 6.1 release yet
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It is true, please don't call me a liar just because you haven't seen what I'm talking about. Maybe Orange are shipping leaked ROMs on their phones, or maybe they are a leak themselves. My brother has one, purchased direct from orange as an upgrade over a month ago, that came with 6.1 on it.

WM6.1 > HTC Hermes100/AT&T8525
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.

LouMessina said:
Considering how bad my HTC/AT&T experience has been, I may bail out before HTC makes WM6.1 available for the AT&T 8525.
It took them nine months to come out with WM6 for my device.
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I'm a loyal AT&T/Cingular user for years, but im just getting into the PDA section of AT&T so far I like my 8525, but my fav thing is the WiFi, that all I need and use, aside from the occasional phone cal, I just took advantage of a near NEW 8525 for $100 on craigslist last weekend

I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.

Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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So why not share one that doesn't hard reset every 5 minutes?

Currently using Schaps WM6.1 Beta which doesn't hard reset every 5 mins, and chances are Official release will require a lot of reseting anyhow

t-readyroc said:
I see 6.1's already been integrated into a Hermes rom?
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No it hasn't.

Fallen Spartan said:
I don't know why anyone is interested in the official WM6.1. I've had cooked versions of this for months. Same thing happened when WM6.0 was officially released. I tried it out and it was crap compared to the cooked versions.
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Some of us see so many different versions out there and aren't sure which one to use.
I find my official 6.0 adequate, I'm not even sure what I'd look for in a 6.1.
I'd also want it to be completely stable.

Quick question about T-Mobile TP2!

Every spec I look at for the T-Mobile TP2 it says it will have WM6.5 when it drops is that true? I looked at the spec for the other carriers for TP2 and they all say 6.1.
Just need someone who knows these things well to confirm because I read WM6.5 doesn't drop until this fall to around christmas time.
Thanks!

Someone has to know something!

It is WM6.5 Ready...
Most likely you will have to Buy the OS at additional cost.
The good old Orange day's where they did know what service was are over and done since T-Moblie acquired Orange.
But with a HardSPL (hopefully soon) who cares, just flash any ROM you like.

Why do I have to buy the OS if it comes with it?

It will launch (Aug 12th) with 6.1, but once MS releases 6.5 you will be able to upgrade to 6.5. What is unknown is whether T-mo will provide that update or if we are going to have to get the update from HTC. I highly doubt we will have to pay for it either. Kinda like when tmo provided an update to win mo 6.1. it was free.

T-Mobile Netherlands will provide the WM6.5 upgrade for free. It says so in my contract and manual. Too bad T-Mo is always way behind when HTC provides upgrades. On the other hand... i'm not welcoming 6.5 with open arms. I rather have a speedy 6.1 ROM for my Rhodium. 6.5 or HardSPL... i go for the latter.

Alright thanks for clearing that up. But I rather have WM6.5!!!
Question!
WindowsPhone is WM6.5 or WM7? Is their even a 7?

There is no WM7 yet, but there supposed to be one sometime in 2010!

Is their a release date for the official WM6.5? I saw a video on WM 6.5 where the guy said it will be released around Christmas time.
The guy was doing a demo on what looks like the final version of WM6.5 with the HTC Diamond 2 I think it was. Anyone seen that video? (He had his legs crossed through out the whole video with blue jeans.) Lol
I'm at work and I'm restricted to certain sites so youtube is a no no.

Windows Mobile 6.5

Ive heard its out (officially) and ive been seeing themes and such for it. Should we be upgrading our TP2? I know were suppose to get a free upgrade from 6.1, but not sure how i would get that. Ive tried to update though Windows Update on my device, but it never can get a connection (weird)

Where have you heard it's officially released? Last I heard it was early next month.
There are leaked copies around and the chefs are cooking 6.5 ROMs. I'd expect the official (free) upgrade to go up on the HTC site some days / weeks after the official release, when the carriers will release their versions is down to them
Gordon

Lyian said:
Ive heard its out (officially) and ive been seeing themes and such for it. Should we be upgrading our TP2? I know were suppose to get a free upgrade from 6.1, but not sure how i would get that. Ive tried to update though Windows Update on my device, but it never can get a connection (weird)
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6.5 is going to be released officially on October 6th. When the carriers release their own version, it will most definitely be after that date. Also, Microsoft has not once used Windows update for WM, and they won't use it to upgrade you from 6.1.
dwizzy130

so its pretty pointless to even check for updates on that hua.. fair enough.. and i didnt think they would send 6.5 though the update, just thought id check.
And it was porly the leaked roms i found stuff on.
Ahh yea,, Oct6. missed the date on it.
Windows Mobile 6.5 and Marketplace Available Oct 6

It's also been stated that HTC plans on releasing their update on that same date. Meaning that you can upgrade your unlocked/unbranded phone then. One of the advantages of not having waited for the local carriers to release their version. You don't have to wait for them to release their update either

solsearch said:
It's also been stated that HTC plans on releasing their update on that same date. Meaning that you can upgrade your unlocked/unbranded phone then. One of the advantages of not having waited for the local carriers to release their version. You don't have to wait for them to release their update either
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Any links where HTC has mentioned it that they intend to release it on 6th oct for everyone? i am really looking forward for it

Anyone here have a 6.5 ROM that can compare differences with 6.1? I've used 6.5 briefly on a Tilt and I'm not really seeing the benefit besides the bigger icons. TouchFlo with 6.1 on my TP2 seems to be fine to me. 6.5 seems to be a little cumbersom. What's the real benefit of 6.5 anyway? I think I'll skip and wait for 7.

Tilt 2 and WM 7 ?

Hello everyone. Can I have some expert opinion please? Do we think that the tilt 2 which was just released last Oct. and I just got mine last week, will be able to support windows mobile 7? Do we think that AT&T will upgrade the OS when it comes out? Being and owner of win mo phones since the 8125 first came out, I know how slow AT&T is to release updated OS's.

This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...

I'm not an expert at all...
But it seems like it's one thing for W7 to be somehow cooked to run on the TP2, but another thing for it to run well, without excessive lag (for example).

ohyeahar said:
This is by no means an "expert" opinion. But the general consensus nowadays is that only the HD2 is confirmed to support WinMo7 and our TP2 will not.
But, consider this:
-WinMo 6.5 was not meant to be on the Touch Diamond.
-WinMo devices were not meant to run Android.
-Sense 2.5 was not meant to come to our TP2.
Yet all the above are happening thanks to the great minds of XDA developers...
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This is a great point. Whenever someone dares to mention WinMo7 on the TP2, you get flamed and the spec impossibilities yelled at your face. But exactly my point about what people said "couldn't" be done!

It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not

sukru said:
It definitely won't be easy, but as long as the OS is cook-able, somebody will take on the task.
What worries me is though, WM7 may not be WM at all! Several reports told something about Zune OS being used instead, and being incompatible with any of the old applications. I hope not
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The Zune OS is based off of the Windows CE kernel, which is also the base for Windows Mobile, so there wouldn't be complete incompatibility as some of the false rumors lead you to believe. There are a lot of blatantly false rumors floating around on even the most respected WM sites, so take every unconfirmed rumor you read about WM 7 with a grain of salt.
Though I would love Windows Mobile 7 on the Touch Pro2, I have to say that it's pretty unlikely it'll happen. First, to everyone who gives the example of WM6 running on WM5 devices and WM6.5 running on WM 6.x/5.x devices, the reason this is easy is because all these operating systems (WM5-WM6) run the same Windows CE 5.2 kernel. It's a lot easier to backport an OS when it uses the same kernel. Windows Mobile 7 is going to be based off Windows CE 6 or 7, and it'll likely take a hell of a lot of low-level work to get WM7 on the Pro2.
If you don't believe me, look in this thread at PPCGeeks, where some of the most technical people discuss this issue in more detail. It seems to me that we'll need a new everything, from the SPL and bootloader to new hardware drivers (since it's extremely unlikely that WM7 will support the Qualcomm MSM series considering the rumored WM 6.5.x and WM 7 coexistance scheme, where only 6.5 supports lower end devices and hardware like the MSM series).
I'm not saying I don't want WM 7 on the Rhodium, since I really do, but I am trying to be realistic here, so I'm gonna say it's likely no to WM 7 on the Pro2.

one guy from htc russia announced WM7 minimal requirements: 8Gb onboard, CPU1GHz,FM, 5Mpx,compass,G-sensor,3,6",WVGA.
but of course its not true

My Universal (2005) came with wm5!
Then upgraded to wm6, then to wm6.1 and I got it working with wm6.5
I´m sure the great chefs here will manage something so we can have wm7 for sure!