TAB key missing - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile General

Hi all
I've come over from the TP to the TP2 and I'm really missing the TAB key on the keyboard. Used it a bit. Is there anyway to map another key (maybe via FN) to perform the TAB function?

If you are just looking to move your text cursor between fields, the directional arrow buttons will do the job.

ohyeahar said:
If you are just looking to move your text cursor between fields, the directional arrow buttons will do the job.
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I must maybe try that again... I've tried it before but it didn't always work.

Nope it doesn't work... problem is that when I'm in a block that has figures in it it will go forward in the same block instead of going to the next block. Anyone else with same other ideas?

take a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Rhodium/ChangingKeyboardLayout
edit the file eT9.Rhodium.409.kmap.txt this way:
change this row:
{T T T T T 0x04}
in this row:
{T T T 0x09 0x09 0x04}
save the file as unicode and copy it to windows folder
now for tab key just type FN + T

Think I'm missing something. I've looked at the registry key and it says I'm using: eT9.Rhodium.www.kmap.txt but when I change this file absolutely nothing happens?? Should I still be chaning: eT9.Rhodium.409.kmap.txt although this is not the one according to my registry?

i did this mod time ago, but in my old touch pro the tab key did change between input fields, in touch pro 2 it only add a bounch of spaces (like when in text insertion) and doesn't switch fields...
is there a way to change the behaviour?

Need a Tab Button on touch pro2...
I have the same problem i need a tab button. I read in another thread how they remapped the Fn+t to = the tab but i dont think it is for the touch pro2
when i load the (eT9.Rhodium.www.kmap.txt) file nothing happeans. i did read in the text you have to change it to a unicode file but i couldn't figure out how to do that. Also many people have replied that you can use the arrow keys but as stated by "pieterbotes" if you are in a field for Example "typing in your name" you cannot move to another field for example " your password" with the arrow keys it the same thing on a Pc Keyboard only a tab button will allow you to do that. So if any of the great minds on this site have a answer it would be greatly appricated.
And does anyone agree that fn+q would be better than fn+t since the q is close to where the tab would be?
Thank You.
Duane

Don't know if you're interested, but i've found that Keyboard Config is pretty useful for stuff like this.

Sublimedelta9 said:
Don't know if you're interested, but i've found that Keyboard Config is pretty useful for stuff like this.
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thanks...using your program fixed the problem for me...setting as tab fn+t using your program make the tab work as it should, changing beetween fields.

airon11 said:
thanks...using your program fixed the problem for me...setting as tab fn+t using your program make the tab work as it should, changing beetween fields.
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Glad it worked for you, but credit should go to Tarkim; It's his creation.

Sublimedelta9 said:
Glad it worked for you, but credit should go to Tarkim; It's his creation.
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thanks anyway for pointing me to it..
anyway reading the thread i don't know why i was sure you was the programmer..maybe i misread a post..
=)

airon11 said:
thanks...using your program fixed the problem for me...setting as tab fn+t using your program make the tab work as it should, changing beetween fields.
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Could you please copy and paste here the eT9.Rhodium.409.kmap.txt file content?
This .txt file is located in /Windows folder... check also if it exist another eT9...txt file...
I'm interested notably in this row: {T T T x x 0x04} (what's instead X?)
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!

it' {T T T 0x09 0x09 0x04}
but i edited it.
in that way you have the tab key but it add spaces and does not change fields..
using the key remapper instead and sendink the keystroke to the os works as expected...

That program works brilliant. Thanks.

Related

keyboard thread...

I was wondering if there had been a thread dedicated towards various keyboards or not.. so I thought I would start one. I've read a few things spread out about keyboards but nothing dedicated.
on that note: is someone who is capable of creating a keyboard, much like the iphone style (keys spaced out, not cramped together for people with fat fingers [like myself] and fewer buttons) be willing make one for all of us to benefit...?
thanks!
I have had the PCM keyboard (v0.14) installed, but it messed up the default HTC keyboard. Still don't know how or why that happened.
Turned out I liked the HTC better, so deleted all other keyboards I had
Still waiting for a Swype-like keyboard to try.
Grtz,
Thijs
you could try the resco keyboard. It is great... apart from it having no comma and period on the first page, making it still very slow to work with for me.
that swype looks great
i like the Yota keyboard, looks ideal for people with sausage hands like me
I'll have to give those a try, it seems there are too many buttons on the reg qwerty pad.
next question, how do I change it?
Garfoid said:
that swype looks great
i like the Yota keyboard, looks ideal for people with sausage hands like me
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Yep, but that Yota keyboard hasn't been extracted yet.
Hope somebody is capable of doing this!
thijs84 said:
I have had the PCM keyboard (v0.14) installed, but it messed up the default HTC keyboard. Still don't know how or why that happened.
Turned out I liked the HTC better, so deleted all other keyboards I had
Still waiting for a Swype-like keyboard to try.
Grtz,
Thijs
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Try the Shapewriter...works on same technology of swype...although i didnt like it personally...numpad was too cramped...but u might like it since u mentioned swype...swype does look appealing
right now am using SPB and Resco pretty good but sometimes when you tap a letter it doesnt appear.. its like it has a delay or something! but i do wish someone makes sometimes that works good!
PCMK kills them all. Without a doubt.
Tene is also adding gesture support in the next version here, and you can add cursor buttons (left right up down) as in HTC keyboard for navi. Easily the best, I have tried I think just about all sips.
Fully skinnable and you can also change the layout to just how you want. Would highly recommend it.
pocketcm.com
I found it a bit slow and the autocomplete shows only one option. plus the feedback didn't appear instantly as it should.
Kizmet said:
I found it a bit slow and the autocomplete shows only one option. plus the feedback didn't appear instantly as it should.
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How recently have you tried it?
.23 has none of those issues...
Swype seems cool, does anybody have any idea on when the public version will come out? It seems like you can have them contact you when the beta version comes out...
my self keyboard
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
Landscape upgrade here
exidler said:
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
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Wow really you just made this? Awesome I will have to give it a try sometime...have a cab for easier installation?
exidler said:
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
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Great Keyboard Works pretty fast...
Can you creat one with swiss-german qwert layout plz?
Thx and greetz
Kizmet said:
I found it a bit slow and the autocomplete shows only one option. plus the feedback didn't appear instantly as it should.
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Hi, I also found that you really have to press the screen hard for the feedback to work, you can still press the letter and it appears on the screen but no feedback unless pressed hard??
Also no full stop on the front page??
I am using the latest version which i think is .23??
As coming from an iPhone i really like this keyboard so hope the bugs are ironed out
hi
how do install this keyboard?? ive tried the above guide but it doesnt register i press the register tab and it doesnt do anything. please can you upload a cab file for us noobs. please help this looks very nice
morgin187 said:
how do install this keyboard??
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Save attached exe to the same directory on phone, where fingerkeyb.dll exist and run program. After successful registration keyboard must show in keyboard list.
Fre4k said:
Can you create one with swiss-german qwert layout plz?
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I have not how layout located physically and also not so much free time.
You can make it and share for other peoples!
If you have interest with creating new layouts, i can help you with additional questions. (Look current implementation of en-ru layouts
exidler said:
I'm using self create keyboard, that looks like iphone. Have maximum configuration (but editing skin file in which all buttons and logic described)
At now it's with EN and RU layouts.
Unpack archive to Program files, run Register.exe and select Fingerkeyb.dll file with full path. Press register button to register keyboard.
Also keyboard can hover over buttom bar to incrase screen free space (ChildWnd parameter in skin file)
Skin file located in Skins\Skin.txt, be careful skin file must be in unicode format, also at now only Portrait orientation supported.
Keyboard developed for self only and have a bit of documentation, all info in file Skins\KEY-OPS.TXT which describes format of skin.txt format
See screenshots.
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i think your keyboard is amazing! i hope to see a version who work also in landscape!

Question mark (?) on italian TP2 keyboard?

I've noticed question mark on italian keyboard is missing... (see the pic attached) ...but it is on the WWE version...
The italian owners have to use the virtual keyboard for question mark... That's quite weird...
Does anybody know how to remap the TP2 hardware keyboard, to restore the question mark?
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nobody knows how to remap qwerty keyboard?
Same here..
Same problem here also!
They're really stupid!!!
They could map every key to a special character..
W, R, T, S, D, F, Z, X, C, V are unused!
FN+D could put the question mark!
But no.. STUPID HTC!!!!
I solved by myself.
Solution:
Put the attached file in the Windows folder.
Open a registry editor and go to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayouDlls]
Replace the entry containing
eT9.Rhodium.0410.kmap.txt
with
eT9.Rhodium.0410.kmap_new.txt
(basically add "_new" to use the new keyboard file)
power off and on again.
NOW:
FN+D (like "domanda") types "?"
and
FN+T (like "tab") types the tabulation char.
Hope this helps.
THANK you so much!
I'll try as soon as possible!
REP+++
You're welcome
Thanks, it works !!!!
This trick worked very fine, here!
Thank you!
does the other buttons remain the same on the kb?
sbraga said:
does the other buttons remain the same on the kb?
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Yes, they remain the same
thanks, great work!
Thanks a lot LinoX!!!
It's great!
CIAO
I've cabbed a new version of this fix and I want to share...
Fn+D is still used for the question mark but I've added also some other unicode symbols...
Just install the cab attached at this post in the DEVICE MEMORY, perform a soft reset and you have done!
After the installation, for exemple, if you type FN+C you can obtain: " ♥ "
There are some other symbols added...
You can also use them for SMSing... just be sure your PRO2 has Unicode enabled:
You can check:
START
ALL PROGRAMS
MESSAGING
MENU
SETTINGS
SMS/MMS
THICK "USE UNICODE..."
NOTE:
If you use the unicode symbols the maximum lenght of the message will be 70 char... if you don't use them the max lenght will still be 160 char as usual
INSTALL THIS CAB ONLY ON HTC TOUCH PRO2 - ITALIAN VERSION
LinoX said:
Solution:
Put the attached file in the Windows folder.
Open a registry editor and go to:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\KeyboardLayouDlls]
Replace the entry containing
eT9.Rhodium.0410.kmap.txt
with
eT9.Rhodium.0410.kmap_new.txt
(basically add "_new" to use the new keyboard file)
power off and on again.
NOW:
FN+D (like "domanda") types "?"
and
FN+T (like "tab") types the tabulation char.
Hope this helps.
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Hi.
I try this solution and FN+T works, but only as text tabulation.
I need the TAB key as "windows function" so to move from one selection to another.
Could you help me please??
Thanks

Change a keyboard button to TAB

Is there a way to change a button on the keyboard (for example, the mail button) to TAB?
That way, we could press TAB to move from form to form when filling them out in a browser.
But most importantly, we could now use the ALT + TAB shortcut to switch between apps when in landscape mode?
Any suggestions?
The up/down arrow keys move the cursor from field to field.
Alt+tab would be nice but which key are you remapping to be the Alt key?
I've also posted on a similar topic, and a solution seems to be to modify the keymap files in the Windows folder.
See here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537818
The files are called like :
eT9.Rhodium.XXXX.kmap.txt
and for France, it is eT9.Rhodium.040C.kmap.txt. This was easy to find because it's the only AZERTY one, I don't know how you find the right one otherwise.
I tried for my "ç" problem (have "FN" + "c" give "ç"), and it works. I think it will work for "tab" instead of "message" (what a totally useless button...). You just need to know the "OX" code tab I think
On the way past, thanks to those you hepled me find this... Thanks to this, I can map many usefull buttons (as "FN" is free for about 10 keys, that gives me 10 free buttons to set).
HHarvey
I already have an ALT key as I lack a Fn key so I just need something for TAB
HarveyR said:
I've also posted on a similar topic, and a solution seems to be to modify the keymap files in the Windows folder.
See here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=537818
The files are called like :
eT9.Rhodium.XXXX.kmap.txt
and for France, it is eT9.Rhodium.040C.kmap.txt. This was easy to find because it's the only AZERTY one, I don't know how you find the right one otherwise.
I tried for my "ç" problem (have "FN" + "c" give "ç"), and it works. I think it will work for "tab" instead of "message" (what a totally useless button...). You just need to know the "OX" code tab I think
On the way past, thanks to those you hepled me find this... Thanks to this, I can map many usefull buttons (as "FN" is free for about 10 keys, that gives me 10 free buttons to set).
HHarvey
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How do you change it to a shortcut to an application or a function like TAB?
HarveyR said:
I tried for my "ç" problem (have "FN" + "c" give "ç"), and it works. I think it will work for "tab" instead of "message" (what a totally useless button...). You just need to know the "OX" code tab I think
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The Tab key should be 0x09.
However, mapping Tab to the 'useless' message button does not work for me - anyone successful in doing that?
paphko said:
The Tab key should be 0x09.
However, mapping Tab to the 'useless' message button does not work for me - anyone successful in doing that?
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That's what I thought but tried mapping it and no luck on my end as well.
vapor said:
Is there a way to change a button on the keyboard (for example, the mail button) to TAB?
That way, we could press TAB to move from form to form when filling them out in a browser.
But most importantly, we could now use the ALT + TAB shortcut to switch between apps when in landscape mode?
Any suggestions?
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There is no function in Windows Mobile as "ALT+TAB", set up your vain. U have to find a task manager program, which is a sign shortcut, and list a task menu.​
sancho1234 said:
There is no function in Windows Mobile as "ALT+TAB", set up your vain. U have to find a task manager program, which is a sign shortcut, and list a task menu.​
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I remembered doing this when I had the HTC Universal. That device had both the TAB and ALT button which was what made it possible and why I wanted to replicate it.
vapor said:
I remembered doing this when I had the HTC Universal. That device had both the TAB and ALT button which was what made it possible and why I wanted to replicate it.
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http://www.google.hu/search?q=windo...&rls=org.mozilla:hu:official&client=firefox-a

Touch Input problem

occasionally the built in keyboard shows me a different than expected keyboard. For example, durring txt messages, it would show the phone keypad "with the 1-9, P, w keys" or it would show the internet one "with .com button". I tryed looking through the registry for it, but its a mess tryn to find the key that was changed. i have the touch input v2.0 (build 35555) on the AT&T rom.
If anyone else has had this problem and knows how to solve it, the help would be amazing.
p.s. on my previous phone, I had the VITO Zoomboard, but i like the way this new keyboard is in how it changes..but not when it changes to something that isn't appropriate for the given event
Did you install the classic word completion or word correction cab? If so,
GoodThings2Life said:
When enabling Classic Word Correction, Opera users may experience an issue in which the soft keyboard gets stuck in web or numeric mode. To avoid/correct this, click on the web page instead of the address bar before exiting Opera.
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I installed the disable xt9 file which changes registry values?
Just now I used the resco registry explorer to extract my reg files and found which keys changed:
=== normal keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000000
=== web keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
=== numeric keypad ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
now I gata find a program which will make an exe or lnk to change that value of the reg
I have the exact same issue. The phone seems to get stuck on the number keypad with the W and P and will not go back to the full qwerty.
Soft resets do nothing to reset keyboard. I did the following edits to get word suggestion:
Go to: HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\layouts\e001 0409
Edit: Ime File = \Windows\compime.dll
Layout Text = COMP IME
Go to: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9
Edit: XT9SupportMSSip= 0
Otherwise I have done no registry edits except removing proxy info for Opera to get it to work on Rogers.
This is most annoying so any suggestions or help would be appreciated.
I have tried using opera page before exiting but it still comes up as a number pad.
Applies to any HTC Touch Input 2.0 keyboard
baudac said:
Did you install the classic word completion or word correction cab? If so,
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Thanks for this ... you really helped me save a lot of time!
I find that it will also flip to this input style when trying to add a contact. Once it does this I then have to go and start opera, touch the address bar and the input changes back to qwerty. Then I can exit opera. Its kind of a pain but at least I know of the work around.
thanks for the opera info - I did not install any completion cab, but this did fix my keyboard issue.
I just got this problem today. I have yet to be able to change it back.
I can tell you that this occurred in the Windows Edit Contacts menu (that is to say, go to HTC's "Edit Contacts" and select "More").
At first it gave me a simple numbers and arrow keys only keypad. I soft reset and it changed nothing. I then decided to retrace my steps to try to fix it, so I went back to the edit contacts screen and fiddled around, very shortly it switched to the keyboard as described by the OP. Numeric keys, parenthesis, a 'P' and a 'W', etc... stuff used in phone numbers, I suppose. I haven't been able to get it back to a full keyboard, yet. I've messed around with the keyboard options, switched to and back from other keyboard choices and got nothing.
Anyone else want to investigate this further with us?
xperia
zyphuris55 said:
I installed the disable xt9 file which changes registry values?
Just now I used the resco registry explorer to extract my reg files and found which keys changed:
=== normal keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000000
=== web keyboard ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
=== numeric keypad ===
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime]
"CurrentET9Style"=dword:00000006
now I gata find a program which will make an exe or lnk to change that value of the reg
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This worked for me.. The opera trick did not
SlyMaelstrom said:
I just got this problem today. I have yet to be able to change it back.
I can tell you that this occurred in the Windows Edit Contacts menu (that is to say, go to HTC's "Edit Contacts" and select "More").
At first it gave me a simple numbers and arrow keys only keypad. I soft reset and it changed nothing. I then decided to retrace my steps to try to fix it, so I went back to the edit contacts screen and fiddled around, very shortly it switched to the keyboard as described by the OP. Numeric keys, parenthesis, a 'P' and a 'W', etc... stuff used in phone numbers, I suppose. I haven't been able to get it back to a full keyboard, yet. I've messed around with the keyboard options, switched to and back from other keyboard choices and got nothing.Anyone else want to investigate this further with us?
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Same problem for me, so I did the Opera method.
It definitely originated (for me) in "edit contacts".
I used the stock Opera (9?). I did try to just tap the google search bar with no luck.
Just click on the address bar after you start the browser and it will allow you to switch.
*Non-registry changin' noob method*

[Q] Modifying Buttons

Hi,
I'm using the HTC Sense.
In the "Home" tab there are 2 buttons - "Phone" (left) and "Menu" (right)
Is there a way to modify these buttons?
I've just started using ThumbCal and I want the left one to assign to it.
Thanks.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587248
Settings+
to change the softkeys try Settings+ by Samuel Tee
Thanks for your answers.
fighter7139,
I've read the thread, I didn't manage to get to the "yes, use advanced config - push on menu - more settings - key mapping".
I have Tom Photon ROM.
and I don't understand enough to mess with the reg file..
xda-kungfu,
I've installed the Setting+, and changed the left soft key.
I rebooted twice - but it didn't change.
Are you sure it suppose to work on the HTC sense too?
Thanks again.
I tried also BSB tweaks..
Shaked my HD mini.. But it didn't change..
So why don't you use ACT:
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/advancedconfigurationtools.shtml
Thanks!
ACT works great!!
maoz59 said:
Thanks!
ACT works great!!
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I'm also using the ACT, but I don't find where to change the buttons . Any body can help me?
THXs!
Menu - more settings - key mapping
It's already written.
SORRY, I didn't read it. By the way, I can't assign the right soft key to the camera. Anybody has the same problem?
It's better to set camera on left softkey.
Hi,
I installed ACT and I have no problems with the left softkey but when you assign an application to the right softkey, it appears at the beginning but as you move through the Sense, again seems the Menu right softkey
"It happens to someone else? How do you solve?
Thanks in advance
Try to set it through registry.
HKLM\\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeRSKPath
HKLM\\Software\HTC\Manila\HomeRSKText
Thanks for the reply.
This registry keys says the same I put on ACT but only works at startup Sense. When you move slider "Menu" returns
Disable sense, make a soft reset and enable it again.
There's no way, man.
I did what you say and when I enable Sense again, "Menu" reappeared.
Without Sense it works fine. HTC HD Mini. Version Manila 2.5.20131825.3
Thanks anyway
I don't know something else, but many people say not to mess with right softkey.
Use BSB Tweaks 1.6 to change the left soft key of Sense.
You mentioned it didn't work for you. But do try it again. Sometimes you need to shake a bit more to register a response.
It worked for my HD mini. Worked everytime.
Do try it again.
I found on htcpedia how to change right softkey MENU on HTC HD Mini
The first thing to do is set the Resco Explorer to show hidden files and ROM.
Get the file inside the ZIP that I let you down and copy it to the Windows folder overwriting the existing. Windows warns that it will replace an important file. Just in case I have made a backup before overwriting the original.
You open the Advance Config Tool or SKTools and assign the role you want to replace the SoftKey Menu and Reset.
bye and thanks all for your replies.

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